Americans don't have government paid healthcare

>Americans don't have government paid healthcare

How does it feel being third world?

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>Medicare
>Medicaid

Yes we do.

But government paid healthcare is fucking shit.

Controlled insurance scheme is the best way to go, you poor Paki

It sucks, what sucks even more is how 45% of Americans are cool with this because they are too dumb to understand how universal healthcare would benefit them or why the current system is shitty

For the ultra poor/old, there is "healthcare" sort of but not really. It's not really "healthcare" because it's designed in such a way where someone needs shit tons of insurance to "fill in the gaps" purposefully put into the legislation. Americans Conservatives are literally sheep who support this whole heartedly because they've lived in a nation where healthcare IS a gov program.

>calling those sad excuses for healthcare, healthcare.
O IM LAFFIN

Theyve never

taxation is theft

No it's not you retarded piece of Libertarian trash

""""free""""
I have Tricare, I don't know what you're talking about.

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government healthcare is absolute shit

the only thing the government should pay for is emergency procedures

>tolerate abusive, agressive, chip-on-shoulder younger brother for 20 years
>while I'm drinking a glass of water, he finds out he got his gf preggers and punches it out of my mouth in anger
>I glass him in the face (self defence muh riiiiiiights wtf u lil shit)
>over and over until my hand is actually a bloody stump
>knockout! I hope he's fucking dead.
>my palm skin falling off while I desperately try to keep my spaghetti inside
>neighbours give me a lift to the hospital
>they see my brother in a pool of blood, tiny holes all over his blood-soaked head
>he wakes up still being abusive, tries to punch neighbours
>goes to hospital in a police secured ambulance, since he wouldn't stop yelling they just assumed he was on ice and drugged him out again DUMB PIECE OF SHIT
>I get there later because the neighbours are driving me
>the government decides to pay for plastic surgery for both of us
>my surgery being an emergency puts someone I know out of theirs
>he had been waiting nine months for kidney stone removal
>it's one year later and I have full use of my right hand again
>can't feel shit though, spooky ghost hand
>ol mate finally got his stones out too
>brother now a single father still haven't talked to him

total cost to govt: at least $100,000. all because some hippy parents refused to medicate a spastic violent cunt child.

this is what happens when it's allowed to happen.

Universal healthcare is shit. Most people that praise it are rich euro cunts that have private care.

Given the option between cheap private healthcare and "free" gov healthcare, I would go for private in a heartbeat.

Pretty shitty knowing that if I lose my job I will start to wither and die.

Fuck you, bong.

With all of these "universal" systems, one would think we had left the solar system by now. And ur a faggot.

>Government Paid
>You mean taxpayer funded

>free healthcare
kys

Brit here. I hate the NHS and how shitty it is. Look at this one example:

news.sky.com/story/call-for-group-b-strep-tests-to-prevent-baby-deaths-10739624

The UK doesn't even test for fucking strep during pregnancy so a baby dies every week. The test is literally a swab and antibiotics if it is found.

Third world healthcare proponents don't know any better so they think having a newborn die each week of an entirely preventable cause is normal.

Many such cases!

They dont even have clean water.
have no fucking clue how to make tea.
Nd worst of all, american water makes frogs gay.

>t. stupid american cocksucker

Well, let's compare american health statistics with ours (pic related)

Fucking teenager, stop hating portugal for the sake of hating portugal.

You are criticizing the only thing that works well in this country fucking kid

USA getting scammed

That's more to do with our citizens shoveling McDonalds into their fat faces. Another argument against nationalizing healthcare here by the way.

now that we satisfied your fee fees, let's stop looking at anecdotes and start looking at facts.

>pic related
america is a third world country

Forgot pic

>being third world
We are first world for giving women rights and free "Oppression"

keep on paying for the healthcare of brazilian trannie prostitutes and angolan immigrants you idiot

>goverment
>taxpayer

Yeah, you're obviously a retard, governments don't generate revenue to spend on citizens, they just take tax money and redistribute it. Enjoy your 50% tax rate for a low-income job and high taxes on literally every store purchase you make.

Were not a faggot socialist company that has 60% of our paycheck given to taxes so we can have shitty health care.

>UR TAXES SHUD PAY 4 EVERY TIME SHENIGGANIQUA AND HER 15 NIGGLETS STUB THEIR TOES
>you have to pay full price though

How about fucking no

>implying portuguese people aren't fat fucks

But i thought america healthcare was superior to Portuguese one?

Here is the thing though:

Single payer healthcare is cheaper, per capita than what the US has.

This means you can have it, and supplement it with out of pocket things for stuff that isn't covered - breast enlargement, lip injections, butt implants etc.

it gets worse, americans pay six times more for worse care than any other first world country.

In america the doctors union (AMA) restricts the number of doctors so they all make filthy amounts of money at the expense of the health of the rest of the country

I'm all for kicking those fucks out. But i'm not one of those useful idiots who cling to isolated anecdotes of large waiting times as a good argument for destroying the only thing that works nicely in this country

>paying for the illness of strangers

No thank you.

We have public healthcare in Australia, except we don't. If you earn over the average wage, you are forced by the taxation system to take out private healthcare or pay more in tax.

Also, public health is stupid. It means that healthy people pay for old people who want to live beyond their natural limit, and fat or drug-addicted people. Lifestyle choices and old age make up 95% of healthcare costs.

They're not as fat as the fucks here. I guarantee that.

Just murica things,mfw

>Also, public health is stupid. It means that healthy people pay for old people who want to live beyond their natural limit, and fat or drug-addicted people. Lifestyle choices and old age make up 95% of healthcare costs.
>being this simple minded
If you are over 17 years old kys

>Switzerland
>third world

>government paid healthcare
Enjoy waiting 2-3 years for any lifesaving operation faggot...

I certainly wish my taxes paid for pakis to have 80 kids, ensure lardasses had free access to the ignored pleadings of doctors, the same lardasses' disability because they are "too fat to work", the privilege of a free 1-year delay for urgent care, and for a Bobby to inspect my spoon collection and check up on the status of my TV license.

Surely then we will be first-world.

God it feels good to have free healthcare.

The government doesn't have any money of its own. It's funded by the taxpayers.

Our healthcare is the best in the world, provided you can afford it.

>mfw pineapple land is 36

Say what you want americuck its still better than being gouged by the inbetween patchwork obama care you got stuck with.

This too. In the UK I would have to wait 2 months for an appointment with a competent doctor and my """9am""" appointment time would actually be at 10:30am. The NHS is garbage.

Lifestyle choices such as eating too much food, and old age, make up 95% of costs. This is then spread out over the population evenly through taxation. This means healthy people end up paying for unhealthy people.

I ask them this every single day.

Alot NHS funding is wasted though.

We have wankers turning up in A&E for the flu, should be fined.
We have people missing appointments, should be fined.
Drunks and druggies clogging up various parts of the hospital when they happen to be so out of it and don't remember glassing some poor sod or trying to beat the shit out of a nurse, should be fined and jail term.
Plastic surgery because they threating to off themselves if they don't get a new nose and they are taking the piss.

Though some problems plague the western world in general like not aborting severe retarted children who will never have a normal life and proberly do not ever realise wtf is happening anyways while the state is forced to look after them.
Same with old people who are so far past it they should be put down, like those with dementia who do not even know wtf is happening, we dont let animals live like this.

Assisted suicide should be allowed too.

Good luck not having a military.

>he thinks healthcare is free
its garbage system that is usually inneficient and forces you wait in line for few fucking hours until doctor btfos you with some shitty antibiotics
and you pay for it with your taxes, in poland 90% of people i know go to private doctor instead

I never said anything about Obamacare, which is unconstitutional as fuck anyways.

Enjoy when you get to retirement age and you have to sit in front of a death committee to decide if your life is worth taxpayer money.

>government paid

Government pays nothing, it just relocate tax money. Citizens and business always pays the price..

Public health was probably just voted for by old people in the same way that families voted for paid maternity leave. Basically, let healthy people or single people pay for your life.

>get an appointment
>need to wait months/years
>finally the time comes
>enter a shitty old hospital where some old doctor who hates his job takes care of you
>you're afraid of even asking anything because of his attitude towards you and everyone else
>be glad it's finally over
>need to wait for results

>go privately
>pay some money, get a rather quick appointment, sometimes even on the same day
>professionally looking doctors and nurses take care of you
>the surroundings don't look like they're about to decompose any moment now
>doctors and nurses are actually nice and care about you since you directly pay them
>get results same day

I wish I wouldn't have to pay for that useless piece of shit.

It sucks bro. I have to pay to be underinsured, thanks Obama.

>government payed
You mean taxpayer payed, right? You're paying for other people's mistakes. I don't want to pay for some degenerate's kidney operation becuase they drank themselves to death, I want to pay for my own health.

That argument has been pulled out of someones arse. The excess expenditure is from unnecessary bulk billing geriatrics because pensioners discovered another symptom on ACA.

this
my grandma had choice to either pay or to wait 2 fucking YEARS for operation
fuck this garbage and anyone who thinks its good

>I don't want to pay for some degenerate's kidney operation becuase they drank themselves to death
>what is medicare
>what is medicaid

The government doesn't pay for anything. Taxpayers do.

>government paid healthcare
It's shit.
You still pay for it.

britisher i've observed actual people dying because of how long your waiting lists are

the further from london the shittier the equipment and overall efficiency of your system becomes.

every single english doctor and medical student i've spoken to and taught for the last 3 years has only spoken of how crap your system is.

the nhs was a noble cause put forward post war, but i think you should've listened to thatcher.

>government paid healthcare

The problem is not who pays for health insurance in america.

The problem is that nobody can afford to.

Doctors take 8 years to make and the number is restricted by the doctors union (AMA), when you mess with the supply (number of doctors) nobody can afford to pay for your product

Even worse - pay for some mentally ill degenerate sex change surgery.

Another bogus lie you americucks are fed from the mouths of career politicians.

Enjoy slaving the rest of your life away when you end up in an unexpected accident and your dodgy insurance denies your claim.

You have no idea how much I love every minute of Trump being president

>oh no my niggercare you mean i have to pay for my degenerate pills myself instead of making taxpayers do it, then how am i supposed to have extra money for my city apartment and a new iphone every other month

Corrupt governments seem to collude with the medical industry to drive up health costs.

There is no disincentive for these people to change their behavior. They will overburden the healthcare system as long as they expect it to cost nothing to them. A fine steep enough to challenge this attitude might as well be the real cost of care.

People come from all over the world for American healthcare when it comes to cutting edge technology. Then post on Sup Forums about how American healthcare is shit. No one goes to your shitty countries for healthcare. I love that other countries have starving people but force them to pay for government healthcare. Why not give free food? It's more important. What about clean water? Why not insure that as well? The poor still suffer even if you give them healthcare. They are always exposed to more threats because of their situation. Realize your shitty socialism always becomes communism and results in millions of deaths

The healthcare is superior, dumbass moor. The financing behind it is just a massive scam.

>i voted for trump because that guy bought an iphone

>muh free
nothing is free, and we have the best socialized system in the entire world (the emergency room)

Try again, you fucking snaggletoothed buttfucker.

Its shitty! I haven't had health insurance for over 10 years. My parents got Obamacare shortly after I turned 26 so I couldn't been covered. I don't believe in forcing people to buy private insurance (or fining them) so I'm glad Obamacare will be gone.

Americans are mad because are insurance companies are greedy and rip people off. Often we pay $300/month for insurance and still have at least a $500 deductible. Most insurance plans suck. Private insurance is like gambling where its only worth it if you have a near fatal accident, and THEN you hope that insurance will enough and give you a low deductible. For most people, its not worth it. Middle class white people who never go to the ER get so ripped off, Its goddamn bullshit honestly.

Europoors need to realize that you can't always apply European methods to the unique exception that is the US.

>c'mon m8, you americans have a serious gun problem! just have yer law-abiding citizens turn in all their guns and there'll be no more gun violence! if it worked for us, then it'll certainly work for your 60% white country!
>oy, why is gun violence taking a turn for the worse in america? their citizens turned over their guns and everything!
>nay, it certainly couldn't be because of those nice POC shooting each other up with their illegally obtain guns on a daily basis!

How about we take a nice look at the disaster that is the VA before we even entertain the idea of universal healthcare.

Germany does not have government paid healthcare.
They force you to get an insurance.

Gotta love Europeans telling Americans to do what they are doing and meanwhile are in total chaos

I'm 25, what health care?

My small town even offers free dental care. I got a tooth fixed and my teeth cleaned and whitened for free.

And yet the world's largest economy doesn't even treat for free its cancer patients.

I would be fine with it, aslong as they make them pay for it and do not rack up the taxes to make us pay for there fucking problems that they create.

You break a leg at work it can happen and it sucks, you get pissed it is your fault that you took your drunk ass into the middle of the road and got hit thus breaking a leg and damaging someones car.

>tfw the government forces me (with the threat of a fine and then imprisonment if I refuse to pay the fine) to purchase insurance from crony health insurance corporations and calls it free healthcare

One job. And they fucked it all up.

> Doctors go into medicine because they want to make a lot of money in a respectable profession.
> Go to 8 years of expensive ((university education)) followed by a residency (a limited number of spots dictated by the ((AMA)) means many qualified doctors do not get these shitty internships.)
> 100k+ debt to ((banks))
> excessive litigation by many ((lawyers)) makes expensive malpractice ((insurance)) mandatory.
> all these expenses, time to charge more money to pay them
> oh no my healthcare is too expensive!

There has to be some way to solve this problem...

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Why are people still replying to OP?

>brag about having to pay fatties and trans for their bad lifestyles
>calling others third world

in first world people pay for their own healthcare, in other worlds they force such obligation upon others like communists

>Government paid
By which you mean "tax paid" you fucking moron. Congratulations on being forced against your will to pay for the medical treatments of everybody in your country for your entire life.

I pay for my own healthcare, faggot.

>let single people pay for your life
>Implying it isn't fair that people with no decedents and who can get pensions anyway should compensate those who choose to further the future human population

A bit of a mixed system here. Breaking a leg at work in the US results in a worker's compensation claim and short-term disability payments. Unless you are self-employed, your employer is required to have this insurance and you wouldn't pay.

The latter case, yes. If you get a major injury off-time and you don't have insurance, you get to pay the entire bill or go through a bankruptcy.

>Brits don't have butter-knives

>he uses government violence to take other people's money
Opinion discarded, enjoy being too low agency to be self-sufficient

Did your government also breast feed you Mohammed.

This right here.


You would think Sup Forums of all places would recognise the importance of individuality between cultures/nations.


Both systems have issues and swapping to the other would help neither.

Over here if at work time off paid and comp unless the company somehow fucked you over at some point then you can take it further.

Self employed then you lose money simple as but no healthcare costs. That would piss me off in US desu that you get shafted twice.

Why would I want to pay tax dollars on nigger and spic healthcare?

How does Muhammed's seed feel?

beautifully written, such an obvious conclusion.

The funny thing is everybody is talking about insurance companies, nobody talks about making more doctors (or letting them in!)

Not an argument.

>government paid healthcare

what is National Insurance Contribution?