I am right-wing but I do like punk.
I also think the song 'Way Down the Line' is a red-pill in a nutshell.
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So, can right-wing folks like punk or must they just ignore the lyrics and listen to the song?
I am right-wing but I do like punk
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Jason Gray
punk is dead, toothpaste
Hudson Jenkins
I like Reagan Youth's music but I hate their communist/ anarchist message. Plus the lead singer was a kike. Great drumming though. Descendants is pretty good too.
Benjamin Johnson
Long live to punk!
Bentley Gonzalez
That is not the point shart
Logan Myers
>right wing
>punk
That is an oxymoron.
Thomas Cooper
Nathan Murphy
I know, I feel the same about Rage Against the Machine, I fucking hate their message but can't resist the solid construction of rock/hiphop in their songs.
How superficial am I :(
Adam Diaz
I literally don't have a problem listening to edgy punk music from the 80s because it was a different time anyway, I don't get triggered by people criticizing/mocking reagan and leftists weren't as cucked back then as they are now
Oliver Reyes
Leftists suck the cock of government.
Punk is anarchist.
Anarchy is as far right as it gets.
Eli Russell
it's just music
t. listens to punk
Mason Sanders
Give the song in the link a try, that song is spot on with my vision on most social problems today
Charles Torres
tfw I remember when Offspring weren't faggots.
I think it all went down hill after Americana.
Nicholas Baker
Ofc this is how I see it as well, but I was just wondering how Sup Forums thinks about the subject in matter
Charles Jones
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Brody Foster
Yes but somehow a song like "Kill the President" is as left as it can be
Alexander Torres
what you mean is it was not a meme and you were not alive at the time.
it is all the same shit. what has changed is you are a part of the culture of outrage that is triggered by everything that is outside of your nostalgia fueled bubble.
Kevin Lee
that is not in glorious motherland
Grayson Rogers
Punk is like atheism, faggotry or vaping. Most of them are not redpilled but there is nothing inherently prohibiting them from being so in it. Scene is simply crawling with leftists even if let's say Ramones were fairly conservative.
Carson Martin
So then what is punk? |
Left or right? Or can't it be named all at once?
Chase Walker
Listen to some RAC bands.
Oliver Butler
The Ramones are a republican band
Jayden Collins
This. I got to HIghField once and got sick in my stomach that between all cool concerts suddenly something promoting Antifa came in between.
Yet in the meantime Germans bought helmets as the ones in WW1 from a souvenier stand.
Jordan Garcia
I've been involved in my local punk scene ever since I was a kid. I also used to be a full-blown commie.
I guess you just grew up, and that's fine. The refugee crisis, constant terror attacks, and general bullshit from the far-left changed alot.
I can guarantee you are not "right-wing" btw. Don't let Sup Forums fool you, politics is way more intricate then muh fascists and muh SJW's.
Asher Cox
If you played that song while Onigger was president how would leftists have reacted?
Isaac Miller
Punk is irrelevant politically because to be anti-establishment can be too many things.
Jeremiah Carter
yeah that too, but even then I'm not a self identifying 'alt-righter' or white nationalist so I don't get triggered by leftists that much in the first place. I just think that the quality of acts of political activism has dropped because of the internet age if that makes sense
Evan Ortiz
my brother, a (former) punk drummer, turned full SJW/antifa and absolutely hates punks now, like goes on giant rants about how much he despises it, partly because there is no diversity and only white males like it, and a lot of those white males say mean things or make holocaust jokes sometimes. "Nazipunks"
Jack Taylor
it's music genre, you can sing about any fuck you want
Julian Morales
Right wing in the Netherlands differs from America, frietbroer
Furtheron I have grown up, but still like punk. I just do not like liberals.
Luis Cruz
also this
Ryder Hall
But some do push a political message in it, and I just doubt which side punk is on basically.
Depending per artist is the main conclusion?
Kayden Turner
Punk music can have a right wing message. The majority of it is pretty left wing though.
David Perry
Johnny Ramone says punk is right wing
Brayden Murphy
EDGY
Owen Cruz
Offspring isn't even Punk
this is Punk.
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Zachary Cooper
Jesus you guys are barely savable. I never ever met a person complaining somewhere to be too many white males other than a black Englishman who did nothing for school but complaining about school (and their 'racism')
Wtf man
Benjamin Perez
Offspring were pretty redpilled back in the day. Not so much now.
Brody Hall
It is so fucking weird, because he talks about how much he hates men and white people, while being both of those
Really sad to see him so cucked now, he changed a lot in just this past year
Gavin Morris
>Listening to Lefty Eastern USA/European based stereotypical punk
You'r a little babby
Watch this
You'r a litle babby
Watch this
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Angel Thomas
Crossover is thinking man's genre
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Isaac Ramirez
You realize that punk isn't left or liberal, right? It was formed in the wake of the failure of the hippies. I always thought they were anarchist and often with a right wing bent. They are non-conformist and not socially conservative, but still right wing.
Of course,
>punk is dead
and has become mainstream and often been adopted by leftists and nu-liberals.
Isaiah Fisher
punk is about going against the system
honestly going against the media and supporting trump as a major artist could be considered punk to me
Carson Williams
I am not trying to be edgy, nor do I listen music just so other can find me cool or such.
Sorry Nederbroer
Hudson Fisher
Punk is 萌え (moe-ehhh).
Nathan Brooks
I wouldn't be able to stand him I'm afraid, no offense to you but how the fuck do you even keep up with a bro with such vision?
And what caused it? Is it the 'getting chicks being SJW' meme?
John Gray
>I like Reagan Youth's music but I hate their communist/ anarchist message.
Holy shit.. it's 2017.. and you still haven't realized that their songs were fucking COMEDY / sarcasm.
WOW.. you really failed at being a punk.
Ryder Price
>implying vaping is some how "blue pilled" or unaware of deliberate conspiracies by government enabled regulatory capture and infringement of the free market.
Elijah Ortiz
It is not a left or right thing. both sides are victims of Outrage Culture.
the left has SJW
the right has "alt-right" and religion nuts.
it is all the same shit. people who are triggered when someone has an opinion outside of their own.
the internet allowed for echo chambers to form. allowing people to think shit dont stick as along as it is their teams shit.
Anthony Turner
If you're going to listen to punk, listen to SoCal Punk/Trash
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Alexander Gutierrez
>I am right-wing but I do like punk.
Out. Out of this website right the fuck now.
Grayson Johnson
>offspring
thats not punk mate
take your lame ass pop punk shite to some tween normie party
Jaxson Carter
I'll give it a try, thanks for the info
Xavier Perez
Someone needs to start up a right wing meme-punk band.
Luke Cook
i am typing this with the lowest energy you gave me by having such low bait
James Bailey
The Offspring is red-pilled in my opinion. "Americana" is filled with songs about entitled SJW bitches, cucked white guys, no post-nafta economic hope, etc.
Andrew Sanders
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Austin Wright
>SoCal
why listen to the shitty hollywood version when Sac/NorCal punk exists.
Jordan Young
Don't tell me what to do!
> t.
Jace Cook
I don't talk with him very much anymore, but I am still facebook friends
His best friend since 1st grade changed his name from Drew to Anne. He feels the need to be the best 'ally' to the 'oppressed' minorities as he can.
Henry Lewis
Every branch of punk is just blackpilled/greenpilled useful idiots.
The one thing we can all agree on is that Offspring simply isn't punk.
Carson Gomez
punk is not my cup of tea, I'm a right-winger but I typically listen to techno and electronic music, like eurodance and europop.
Jonathan Sanders
Walla Walla might literally be about Dindus going to jail
Austin Hall
I'm a street walking cheetah
With a heart full of napalm
I'm a runaway son of the nuclear A-bomb
I am the world's forgotten boy
The one who searches and destroys
Parker Miller
Wh.. Seriously?
We Dutch may complain once a while but I luckely have never encountered such type of guys. Damn.
Even when I was on a roadtrip going Hostel through Hostel I have met rational people with a normal vision to political cases. I only encountered 1 SJWF and he was bullied.
Ethan Adams
SorCal NorCal, just Western Punk in general is what I'm saying.
Elijah Garcia
Then what is it according to your edgy standards
Samuel Carter
So you haven't heard of the Nazi punk movement?
Jonathan Cruz
im not baiting
pop punk is cancer
Gavin Rivera
Idk what the first 3-4 Offspring Albums were if they werent punk
I do agree that American started to veer from that and they have not looked back since. And that was 1998.
Xavier Kelly
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Nolan Cox
My care is not in this thread, son
Dominic Ross
God save the queen
She ain't no human being
There is no future
In England's dreaming
Don't be told what you want
Don't be told what you need
There's no future, no future,
No future for you
Colton Gonzalez
I'm with you OP. Some punk is good, but now I see a lot of it as edgy garbage. Punk is what led me to question the State and the corporate media complex. That is what ultimately led me to understanding the Constitution and conservative philosophy. After watching fellow "Anarchists" in the streets on inauguration day I am disgusted. I want to start protests for "Not my anarchists".
Find the music you like, but don't make it your identity. Also, don't ask if you can listen to certain music. That sounds pathetic.
Jaxon Gutierrez
The greatest Punk band of all time and greatest American rock band ever
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Carson Walker
No, what is Offspring according to you is my question.
Blake Parker
pop rock
Kevin Rogers
here's a playlist of the whole album
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some of them are new pop punk and even some non-punk like Nirvana
Kayden Ortiz
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Cooper Smith
If I should listen to it did not came out quite as I had in mind. I meant how would Sup Forums per person deal with it.
Anyway, furtheron I agree with you
Parker Martin
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My favorite punk band is redpilled as fuck
Jordan Myers
Nathan Thompson
Inshallah brother
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Punk and hardcore is better when it's just about trying to make your way in life without people bugging you. Good luck finding that nowadays though, everything has to be as inclusive as possible.
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Zachary Watson
Punk used to be enjoyed by both the right and the left, and it wasn't until recently that it's been completely overtaken by the left. I remember even 4-5 years ago when I used to go to shows and you would have the right wingers and military guys and the lefty artists and other types all in the same room. We came for the music and that's it. And it was okay, even fun, for both groups, until the left started declaring these venues a "safe space" and people had to stop using "harmful/offensive language". They then started pushing their agenda more and more and people started dropping out of the scene. We used to have a full house on the weekends, even if it was a non-name band, but now it's only like 8-10 people (the very last few times I went).
The basis for punk is the ability to release your anger, frustration, and pain in any medium you please. If it's screaming incoherently into a mike while a wage of noise crashes into the audience, then so be it. If it's playing/shredding until your fingers bleed, then so be it. If it's doing spoken word, then so be it.
So it's no supreme the left has officially killed any reminisce of punk for this generation or the next, due to the fact that they no longer allow true expression of feelings, opinions, or emotions.
Jason Williams
Skullhead is good.
Evan Rogers
THIS is exactly my issue. I just wasn't able to mention it like you do.
So the left has once again killed something fun
Aiden Flores
>After watching fellow "Anarchists" in the streets on inauguration day I am disgusted. I want to start protests for "Not my anarchists".
I'm right there with you.
How many people and you guys smashed up ONE starbucks? Where are your priorities, lads?
All the real anarchists voted Trump
Ian Jackson
I like punk but I just don't ever.. EVER want to be put at one side with these libtards ruining shit when there is not even a single thread and just doing it for the likes on Instagrams or whatsoever.
I'd rather die.
Dylan Adams
The cultural left has a habit of infiltrating anything enjoyed by white men, taking it over, and then destroying it.
I find it very amusing that punks quickly fell to the SJWs while neckbearded gamers effectively fought back and destroyed the left in Gamergate.
Joseph Ramirez
FEAR is a legendary 'right wing' punk band. So are the Forgotten Rebels, many others.
Punk never used to be communist, it was only when fags like Epitaph showed up and started promoting shitty commie bands and Green-Anarchist commies appeared everywhere.
These days if I go to a show it's all green haired crusties wearing the same uniform, screaming about feminism and marxism it's pretty sad.
Samuel Edwards
Nothing wrong with vaping, or at least with it as opposed to tobacco. Still a lot of vapers are insufferable faggots.
Calm your tits, texas.
Kevin Ross
kys retard
Lucas Murphy
That's a better way of stating that.
Punk is an anti establishment theme of music. Punk of the 80s worked because it questioned the expected norms of the 80s which was this corporatist mentality.
I also see Hank Williams and Johnny Cash as punk. I also see Reggae as punk. If it envokes a mood of rebellion then it should be considered punk.
Remember, "Punk music" as it was formally known was coopted by music and clothing industry to make money and push an agenda. The most punk thing you can do is to question authority.
Luke Roberts
Imo the Hotelier are the best punk band these days. Great songs and interesting lyrics. I think the lead singer lives in a commune and opposes the police, and they have songs about gender dysphoria but I don't give a shit because the music is great
Lucas Bell
thats not punk
this is good but its postpunk
Caleb Russell
>So, can right-wing folks like punk or must they just ignore the lyrics and listen to the song?
right wing people are allowed to have individual thoughts, so they're allowed to like whatever they want. If you have to ask permission for listening to some type of music, you're probably too young to be on Sup Forums
Dylan Lee
so is gwen
Levi Ross
But its much more visceral than your average punk band
Alexander Martin
I am not asking permission, it was a hypothetical statement that came out wrong.