Communism general

Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.

What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.

>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."

>To acheive such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:

marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is reccomended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/

marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/

marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm

marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/

marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

Other urls found in this thread:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_in_the_Soviet_Union
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Cuba
youtube.com/watch?v=T9Whccunka4
twitter.com/NSFWRedditGif

kill yourself you commie faggot.

Hi comrade, why do you say that, you seem to be angry.

>communism
>do what we say or GULAG OR DEATH

no thanks OP

also stop sucking muslim cocks

Communism has to be one of the most degenerate religions out there.

At least Islam is being honest about itself.

did you enjoy the video of all those antifa getting arrested? i did

I hate islam comrade what are you talking about.

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You post this so often that
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I have begun to develop hatred towards the bourgeoisie and affection towards the proletariat

Communism is anti-superstitions, we see the world as material only including your mind, atom by atom we liquidate the bourgeoisie.

why are you such a racist? are all commies as racist as you or are they just slightly racist?

>Islam is a race

cancerous meme.

not an argument so i'll ask again. why are you a racist?

I'm not a racist comrade, I believe no human should suffer for their genetic constitution, that said, I believe in eugenics and approve genomic improvement, I wouldn't let nobody be killed, tortured or bullied because of their genes (something everybody is born and haven't choose to have).

*anybody not nobody

You gan drusd us gomrade. Gabidalism is ebil :DDD
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_in_the_Soviet_Union
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Cuba

so let me get this strait. you are on a board for white supremacists and you just said you hate all Muslims but you aren't racist? you sound racist to me

Oh comrade how far you have fallen your little temper tantrum crew is starting to be rounded up and thrown in jail where you faggots belong. Please please keep on protesting and showing your true colors. Plenty of room in the jails comrade.

You liquidate the bourgeoisie and in their place institute a class of tyrants who rule your people with an iron fist.

And riddle me this: South Korea and China are both communist countries. One has a tyrant, his goons and his slaves, the other has a government and a stratified society who gets progressively richer and cannot have enough of material goods.

Which country is closer to what you consider 'ideal' communism?
And in which of the two would you rather live, work and die?

I said I hate the religion (islam, the dogmas) not that I hate muslim who I consider to be victims of those dogmas.

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your a communist right?

>I hate those capitalist elite 1% so god damn much fucking REEEEEEEEE
>I know, lets transfer their power to the Jewish political elite 1% instead

How do communists get memed on so hard?

Can you name me practical examples of communism actually working out for a country?

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T-T-THE REVOLUTION IS CUMMING!!!

None are communist countries, North Korea is a Juche country that isn't as bad as it is portrayed even though I don't like one person dictatorship but a dictatorship of the proletariat.

China has it's communist party more closer to marxism-leninism and capitalist state (state controlled business own means of production),though they say they are still willing to keep the communist direction but they are 'not ready' to move from capitalist phase.

I would say China is more closer because Juche is too nationalistic, is practically a monarchy religion that is hard to see moving on from their own delusion.

Yes

No he can't.
But just like the slimy kike communist that he is he'll say, "but they wuz doin it wrong"

They all act the same, and have all been duped in the same way.

Well, first of all thats not true.

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It seems to me that most commies are do-nothings who don't contribute a whole lot to of value to society and greatly overvalue the minimal contributions that they do make (usually trying to make a career as a pleb teir artist or musician) why would a productive person ever want communism? Are there any communist business owners? Or is are you all just faggits that don't understand why you are poor and others are successful.

no

GET THE HELICOPTER, WE GOT COMMIES

But China is a shit country to live in. Anyone but the political elite lives a meager life. They don't even have the full internet FFS. Wouldn't you rather live in the USA?

Care to elaborate Russianon?

well there's this guy Che Guevara who is very prominent in the communist party who famously said "The negro is insolent and lazy, and spends his money on frivolities, whereas the European is forward-looking, organized and intelligent". you are in a white supremacist party, posting on a white supremacist board, so i'm gonna ask a third time. why are you a racist?

Maybe this video breaks out the appearance to you:

youtube.com/watch?v=T9Whccunka4

Fucking commies

Get the fuck out state slave, go suck a jewish cock somewhere else.

FPBP

This may be true for your pseudocommies (socdems and liberals)

Russian communists are mostly the 40yo+ workers who remember the soviet times. Russian red are highly conservative and are one of the major lobbists of antiabortion and antihomo propaganda laws.

If left-wing is so retarded to waste time on praising long dead backward ideologies the no wonder right-wing is winning everything recently.

Yeah I figured you'd say that.

Basically communism has no ground in the material realm and exists solely in the delusional minds of young, impressable people like yourself.

I'd suggest you get a time machine and spend a few years in a soviet gulag.

Have a good night, Jose.

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go away evil dogger

what do you mean?

>Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.
they've been saying that for how long?

There are communist economists. It used to be that working people leaned solidly to the left (social democracy or socialism usually) before the Republicans became popular with their identity politics bullshit.

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This is probably a fake quote. Lenin was quite conservative on sexual matters (other than homosexuality), and this list includes a lot of issues he would have probably considered irrelevant.

oh a stolen meme. now that we are done with that you can answer my question

Dj-alien

of course it is fake

the same literal text was considered to be a western plan to destroy USSR here

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Hi comrade, just finished reading "Imperialism: The highest stage of capitalism" by Lenin. Really liked it. Can recommend it.

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He'll never answer serious questions. He's an idiot. He has to be to buy the communist meme.

He has two canned responses jut like every stupid commie; Capitalism is bad & they wuzn't doing it right, depending on what you ask.

kys commie faggots

oh another poorly made meme
now that we are done with that you can answer my question

General Franco calling. You're a faggot with an arse full of bull semen.

Hi pedo, Kys

That image is nonsense - Marx would never do anything that can be described as work, or at least an effort.

>Attempt to reach Communism millions of times
>Always get stuck in the pre-Socialist phase as Socialism always ends in disaster and a government moving more and more power towards itself
>Starts to forcefully implement more Socialist policies or attempts to go for whatever is considered to be Communism
>Fail every single time
>"Durrr not Communism!"

Yeah we know, it can't be done, cutting out the middleman like the Ancommies isnt going to work either.
You can't even do Socialism right, and when you point out beautiful Socialist countries they're always relatively free-market social-democracies and not Socialism.

>Muh Catalonia
Never reached Communism and no that wasnt because of muh evil Fascists
>Muh tiny island somewhere
I can implement Communism in my home too, having like a 100 people together isn't a global economy
>Muh Zapatistas
Bunch of farmers with leaders, nowhere near Libertarian Socialism or Anarchism you doof.

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I don't care if Che Guevara hated black people that's his opinion and where does it say Sup Forums is a white supremacist board? show me in what part of the website it says so.

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Hello Comrade.

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>it's another spanish guy makes a commie thread

When will they learn?

I enjoyed the one of Spencer crying after being slapped more so

Dumb communismposter

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>implying writing tons of phylosophical books is not a work
>implying most of other phylosophers ever worked

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>Republicans
>identity politics

Don't you have some working class guy to shit on, communist?

>where does it say Sup Forums is a white supremacist board
it is commonly visited by white supremacists.they make up the majority of the boards users.
>I don't care if Che Guevara hated black people
you should he is one of the poster-boys of your party. why are you a racist.

>Communism general
There are not enough dead, and sterilized commies.

>slapped
why are communists so stupid and violent

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>it is commonly visited by white supremacists.they make up the majority of the boards users.

So?

>you should he is one of the poster-boys of your party. why are you a racist.


No, there is no reason I should be a clone of Che-Guevara just because he was a communist too.

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Another academic cocksucker. Don't you have someone relevant instead?

White and Christian identity politics are still identity politics. Also, I'm not a communist.

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OP literally has no life.

> oh a stolen meme

The irony of your post should strike you. Bigly.

I'm not saying you should be a clone of him. i'm saying you shouldn't be completely pathetic that a lot of people in your party parade around the image of and praise a man who saw blacks as inferior...unless you are some kind of racist.

*apathetic

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I'm not sure to what extent he was really a racist, I don't think he has influenced the world negatively in that aspect, I have no problem they promote good values from him, I don't think most people think of racism when they see Che.

>Have 1 fish a day you catch yourself
>Your friend catches 1 fish a day too
>You spend two days thinking about how to catch more as you suffer through hunger and exhaustion
>Next day you have a fishnet and you catch 2 fish a day
>You start storing the second in your little hut
>Friend notices that you're using a net and catching 2 fish a day
>He asks you to use your net
>Dont want to go hungry so you ask him to give you half of one of the two fishes he catches
>You now have a storage full of fish and a steady income of half a fish a day while your friend works for you
>You have another friend, friend B
>Friend B has a much prettier house than you and knows a thing or two about building them
>You promise friend B half a fish a day to help create a system near the water
>Friend B is now gaining your steady supply of fish from friend A as an investment
>Friend B cant live on half a fish a day so you ask person C to help out and give both of them a full fish
>You create a second net for person C to fish with
>The fishing factory is done, build on equipment bought from other people from your saved fishes and the money you obtained from Friend A and C's work
>Everyone is out of fish, but the next day working together everyone makes 3 fish a day while giving you half a fish which you reinvest

>communist
>country
pick one

what does stateless mean?

>gets pocket money from Engels, the amount equal to twice the amount skilled artisan was paid at the times
>never worked a day in his life
>his uncle was Gerard Philips, founder of Philips conglomerate/never asked him a single thing about labor
>didn't pay for his purchases from working class people
>writes fanfiction starting with conclusion and then looks for word salad to support his conclussion

Marx is shining example of 'idle bourgeois exploiting the labor of working class'
The rest of commies follows his example.

>I'm not sure to what extent he was really a racist
well he did say that white people were better than "the negro"
>I don't think most people think of racism when they see Che.
I do. every time i see a picture of him on a communist tea-shirt it reminds me of that quote. if all communists are as racist as you, then i'm sure I'm not alone

Show me republican appeal to white race.

>No, there is no reason I should be a clone of Che-Guevara just because he was a communist too.

What's wrong communist? Suddenly you don't like collectivism? Suddenly you want to be treated like individual?
One of the biggest reasons why your shit pipedream always crashes and burns is communist hypocrisy .