Why did American blacks stop making good music?

Whether you like the blues or not you can admit it's objectively way better than fucking rap music.

Poor, impoverished blacks went from making some of the most unique music ever to some of the worst crap I've ever heard. Any man can appreciate the blues. It's beautiful music that's soothing and sounds like the work of God.

The same thing happened with country music. It used to be about outlaws, stories of hardship in the country, and the badassery of the men that made the music. Now it's just pussies that don cowboy hats to talk about trucks and appeal to young millennial women who think they are country.

But inner city blacks make the most garbage music possible. On top of the fact that it literally just sounds like chimping out, the content of the music is violent, promotes drug use and promiscuity, and is literally encouraging young white kids and black kids to follow the same lifestyle.

It's all subjective but I can't fathom why people enjoy rap. Especially if you're white and have never lived in section 8 housing.

If there's one good thing the negroes did was create blues. I fucking love the blues and I want them to start making blues again. The old blacks who would sit on the porch together and sing this shit all day seemed so much tamer and nicer.

What happened Sup Forums?

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i think that the black music industry went from being hardscrabble fighters, that had to prove themselves doubly good to get a place at the table, to triumphalist, materialistic whores, with no spiritual essence. in other words, they became white.

the same (((reason))) whites did.

The whites shat up the blues so they made something new. Jazz.

Then they shat that shit up too.

>implying Jazz was ever anything other than random noise

one of the greatest musicians of all time

sampling killed music, prove me wrong.

>in other words, they became white.

Not exactly true because white peoples music was so much better back then too. The materialism with no spiritual essence is coming from today's music.

Compare today's country music to Johnny Cash and compare rap to B.B. King's music and you'll see. It just doesn't seem genuine anymore and the quality isn't there.

But the thing is, the blues completely died. Blacks don't make the blues anymore. They make rap and rap is horrible

This is probably true somehow

also
>tfw you realize that blues is just bitching for men
>bitching on and on and on and on...
mimimimimi. Granted, there is some good blues, but for fucks sake will they ever shut the fuck up already?

>Mama took those batteries...
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I really wonder how he would feel about the black community's music nowadays

kys

that's a silly argument. considering the market share of sample-based music/acts. But yeah, hiphop is the worst.

pretty much this, whites should start rapping more in order to kill it

It's not really about the lyrics desu. It's the sounds, the instrumentals, and the uniqueness of it. I would rather listen to bitching if it sounds good than narcissistic niggers talking about how cool it is to murder, use drugs, and in general just be a threat to society

I know hating hiphop has become a white people meme but it really is utter garabage, it truly is nigger music.

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It's a "I don't follow modern music so I assume it's all bad" thread.

Sampling caused young blacks to stop learning instruments thereby stifling musical knowledge and creativity. It would be similar to a world where modern writers plagiarized sentences from older books instead of their own original works.

>I got two little children, they don't favor me
>One looks like a Chinaman, the other 'un like a Japanese

what did he mean by this?

Blues died when they stopped innovating it.
>muh 12 bar blues
>muh pentatonic scale
You can only vary that so many ways

Really makes you think when the blues was a factor in bringing together blacks and whites in places like Mississippi. Generations of hatred for each other was fixed by good music.

Rap just makes us look at them with contempt

white people started doing it better and they couldn't keep up

They ascended into visual arts and melody as well

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Funk, soul, doo wop, r&b were all "white-friendly" forms of music as they were very similar to popular white music in terms of song structure and lyrics. This music didn't speak to the gritty reality of the ghettos like hip hop did though.

Hip hop had the combination of simplistic lyrics that weren't "whitewashed" and sounded like shit you would hear being spouted in the ghetto, sampling making it easier to create an instrumental if you couldn't afford instruments, and these guys being more "relatable" to young black kids than someone like Michael Jackson or Marvin Gaye. The gangsta rap era is what led to the decline.

>it's not about the lyrics
>still wont shut the fuck up just for one moment
Blues gave us some awesome riffs, but for fucks sake, vocals my ass. There are, however, some great bands around, that do the blues thing minus the nagging vocal, and also some trash and metal. That's way more fun, but no longer really blues, isn't it?

>started

implying they stopped

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Never said all modern music was bad you faggot. I said the blues is dying and in replace blacks are making rap music. Which yes, I find fucking horrible and unlikable. If you can care to explain to me how modern rap is in any way good music other than for complete low class wiggers than go ahead.

"Can I be dead again please?"

>Sampling caused young blacks to stop learning instruments...
Just how fucking stupid are they??? Kek.
No, I still don't buy your argument. Hiphop is more about the culture than about the music anyways (which is why it doesnt even matter that its all utter garbage). Those kids aren't interested in music, or even making it. They want to be famous and bitches and shekkels. Lifestyle. In other words: those kids would never have picked up an instrument in the first place.

If you know anything about the history of hip hop, specifically gangsta rap, you'd know it's (((them))) all the way. Compare "The Message" to Trap and Crunk. (((They))) promoted the degenerate shit as usual.

They aren't oppressed enough

All popular music sucks now, because the only people who buy music and watch the product placement laden music videos are 12 year old girls. 12 year old girls don't like the blues.

Black people's soul got taken from them by Satan. Thank some faggot black dudes for participating in shitty disgusting rituals in some rich fucks basement.

techno and house music which influenced drum and bass and every single form of electronic music that we know of today

Interesting. That is certainly true. The blues were created to represent the harsh life of living in the rural South post-reconstruction. It was tough for both blacks and whites and in many ways still is.

I think the young blacks started to like rap a lot more though in those areas and didn't care about their fathers music. Fucking shame though considering how great it actually was

Did blues come out of the inner city though?

Their music improved, you're just ignorant.

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>miles top kek davis
Man, fucking wind instruments/saxophononono are the fucking worst. I hate that sound so fucking much. It's pure nagging - in sounds.

>TRÖ TRÖ TRÖ TRA TRA TA NA NA NA NA...
fuck off already. REEEEEEEEEEEEE

Rap had some brief moments of greatness in the 70s-90s then the party/gangsta rap totally took over the mainstream and the lyrical standard just declined over the years into what it is today.

Look up Lil Yachty, Young Thug, 21 Savage, Chief Keef, etc. for what hip hop has de-evolved into. A genre that was once built on the lyrical ability of the performer is now being ran by autistic faggots who literally mumble in the mic and say "isuckadickaniiiiiiiiiiskrrrrrrrrrrrtWOOOOOP" type shit over the same old beats. This is what's popular and this is the biggest music out there right now. Can't wait for hip hop to either die or have the few actual talent be at the forefront again.

Even more recently, like as recent as the 1980s, black music like funk and disco was a lot more pure and genuine.

Black culture peaked around the 1980s. I think the crack cocaine epidemic had a large part in destroying black culture from that point on

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Can you imagine something as sweet as this being released today? I can't.

Yeah I just thought to myself about who owned NWA and came to the realization really fucking quickly

>f for bb

nah rural Mississippi and Texas

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Was unironically thinking this might be the case. Blues was created by this after all

this shit went race discussion way to fast, fucking Sup Forums.

in thats the case lets not forget clapton or SRV

Gary clarke jr and robert randolph are decent desu senpai

>oh look, it's that song from the wuuhtangclangs.
>Again!
Shit all sounds the same to mee.

They're still making it, it just doesn't get any attention because (((they))) would rather push garbage.

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Fuck you bong. Rap is nigger music. The blues is the sound of black people.

Know the difference. It could save your life

hes trolling i hope

>posting an argument without posting music

jesus christ

almost as bad as posting a song without an argument

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I was listening to one great song which compelled me to write the thread. If i can find it ill post it

Wow!

Yeah, I can't say it's a cause but there is definitely a correlation

music in general has been in decline for years
record companies were already raping musicians but with the rise of the internet with piracy and sites like youtube/spotify/etc, there's very little income in albums sales for lesser known artists and the albums "top of the charts" literally have thousands of copies bought by their own studio and given away as prizes to get there
that means bands have to make a living doing constant live shows and usually ends up with the members fighting and going separate ways

any faggot now can download a program and make music on it, mixing sounds together through trial and error until they get something that resembles a song
it's cheaper and far easier to do that these days than be a real musician

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well theres ur problem

If people are willing to pay you to eat your shit, you won't care about why they eat it. You worry about producing more shit for them to eat.

shit i accidentally posted this in another thread like a retard

good music is decent to people who don't like it normally.

but most things are shit so everyone hates it.

>any faggot now can download a program and make music on it, mixing sounds together through trial and error until they get something that resembles a song
yeah, no. Music is still an art. And it's hard, even to come up with a perfect pop-song.
What's actually happening is that the same few producer (as in ghostwriters) do the job for all the pop stars which can go on tour and perform the shit out of their butts.

The real musicians stay at home, comfy in their studio.

Well it was THE cause. Blacks are only now oppressed by themselves and their own communities. And I think many of them turn to even more vile forms of gangster rap to express this.

But oppression did create the blues. The blues is really music about misfortune and sorrow. Hence the name the blues. The origin of the music traces all the way back to 19th century slave plantations.

It actually started to unite blacks in whites in the South though because of the subject matter. It started to become more and more about struggles pertaining to everyone, mostly men. Losing women, failing at jobs, in life, etc. It stopped being about the plight of the slave and more about the plight of the man strangely enough.

One of those strange types of music that's sad in nature but makes you happy in return

The thing that aggravates me the most about modern "country" music is that they never incorporate anything distinctive like a slide guitar, it's just pop songs with a 'country' flavouring in the lyrics, so bland and inoffensive it could be played in a drug store or shopping mall.

Nu-country is so shit and homogenized.

>real musicians
>write pop songs

>any faggot now can download a program and make music on it, mixing sounds together through trial and error until they get something that resembles a song
>it's cheaper and far easier to do that these days than be a real musician


I feel that turntablism is actually pretty solid all things considered when they actually spun records and had to keep people going for hours on a whim just by remembering that one song that sounded like it would work.

now you have dudes with an ipod and 4 records for fashion sitting in the background making videos and getting a billion views.

Negroes became niggers

They went from this to Nicki Minaj in 3 generations. Exactly what the Frankfurt School wanted.

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>Blacks had that sweet, deep Blues soul to hang on to
>Instead they went with BITCH NIGGA STREETS PUSSY POP NIGGA GOLD CAP BLAP BLAP NIGGA MONEY IN THE CASH REGISTER BLAP POP A NIGGA GUN BITCH HO PUSSY ASS NIGGA HOOD

Blacks could have been one of the most chill people on the planet, but they chose to destroy themselves.

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this is why I love why Ween did a country album. they used all the perceived country conventions and turned them upside down while adding in a bunch of actually good session musicians instead of just doing the straight woodnut buckshot alt-country-pop shit.

the thing i dont understand is how does any rapper who has degraded women irl or talked about it not get full disavowal from the leftists? they put on big shows and campaign and its no issue and "fuckin on yo bitch she a thot thot". all of the music industry kids in my town are huge leftists and make "grab pussy" signs yet all dj rap music that degrades women

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Good music is always there. There's just much more noise to filter through today

the fact that you think jazz music is somehow inherently better than rap music shows that you have an illogical appeal to tradition.

Protip: its all nigger music, just changing over time. it was never better or worse.

I was thinking about this when Hillary Clinton had Jay-Z campaign for her. A guy that talks about slapping women, objectifying them, pimping them. But Drumpf is the real misogynist!

Cognitive dissonance is unreal with these people.

The great African American bluesmen (Robert Johnson, BB King, Buddy Guy, Howlin Wolf, Son House, Albert King, etc) all pretty much have the same autobiography.
They grew up in the hard, whip-a-nigger, South and had a father who was either absent or an abusive, drunk, share crop worker. They all built a one-stringed Diddley Bo out of an old porch plank so they can play music to try to forget that one time when they witnessed their brother's murder/death.
They went to the crossroads, sold their souls to the devil, and traveled the chitlin circuit surviving by their street smarts and music.
They were hard men who worked hard at their craft.

The modern nigger may want to escape the shit ghetto, but they're too lazy to learn how to play an instrument or write music. Instead they just want to spit monkey squawks over other people's music.

we started paying them

Blacks are less privileged so it's OK they don't get it

I'm not joking that's probably why
Just more leftist cognitive dissonance

A lot of the older blacks in the deep South are still like this. Especially in really rural areas

sometimes the song is just okay and then people parade behind it because of the message, see: 90% of bands in the 60s

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Fantastic choice

No. The Jews got to them, and the rest is history.
The big music industry is a joke. The fact that millions of people unironically categorize Green Day as "punk" music, is litmus to shit this medium has become.

All you have do is compare the two you nigger and it isn't hard to see what is better.

At least when it comes to the subject matter the music is about. I'll listen to people complaining about their wife leaving them over literal street thugs bragging about committing felonies any day.

Also, how the hell is appreciating tradition illogical? Especially when it's not hard to grasp that one type of music at least had higher values than the other.

Jazz was based on traditional French melodies

>snoop fucking dog.

Cause Reagan let the CIA get funding for thin like the contra in el salvador by escorting an allowing salvadorian drug dealers to sell cocaine to them. Creating an excess amount of cocaine which lead to crack.

please die

black people are objectively why the US won the culture war, black people shat out new genres in every state that people across the world copied.

Jazz, Rock, Soul, RnB, Funk, Blues.

even those genres like Techno and shit white kids do now were started by black people

Is rap really even popular anymore? I mean they still get random nigs to do a stupid rap breakdown in most pop songs but rap itself isn't really mainstream anymore I'd say.
Has anyone noticed also that all the popular black artists these days are no longer tough looking gangsta cunts like early 2000's, but rather efeminite looking and sound faggots? What's the jew endgame there?

Perfect way to bring it to life my dude. These young nogs could learn a thing or two from their grandfathers

>rap itself isn't really mainstream anymore I'd say.
Counterexample: Drake.

The pop charts are full of niggers ad nigger music more so than ever.

>Is rap really even popular anymore?

rap is the most listened to genre in the world right now by far. look at the charts, rap took over last year. no genre even comes close as far as popularity worldwide

backpacker shit

r&B rap,pop all sound the same


>rap is the poetry of the streets
>COOL

turns out it just a bunch of bitching and cursing.

They still make good music. You're just a fucking retard pleb.

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a reminder a jewish rapper had more music streamed than any other artist in the history of music

only good black musician

Can you really consider that faggot rap though? I dunno. He does also have the effeminate faggotry qualities I mentioned too...