Tell me, what did the dems change in the last years that is now being used against them?
I read a few times that they are fucked because they implemented systems to keep the Republicans down, but now the dems are fucked.
What exactly did they change?
They openly trash the white majority, where before they did it behind closed doors
Only the most radical brainless self hating whites can bring themselves to vote D now
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They used executive orders, which go around the congress to enact laws. Technically it's unconstitutional but every modern president has done it. Obama used them a lot, and Democrats expanded the President's power to use them. They didn't think a Republican would be in office for a long time.
Trump is now using executive orders to completely dismantle anything Obama did. History will look back at Obama as a completely failed presidency. His legacy was hanging on by a thread with Obamacare, which was shitty but nobody will admit because it was the first black president's only achievement. Trump is about to destroy it with the very same executive orders Obama would use and just smile at anyone who challenged him.
Democrats are getting fucked in the streets right now. It's beautiful beyond words. They are getting raped and curb stomped at the same time and all they can talk about is how it was the white people in their party's fault. Which is exactly the rhetoric that lost them the election in the first place.
But executive orders have been around for some time, can the president easily use them to completely jump over the other institututions?
>other institutions
Read: Congress
Trump has all the power that Barack reserved for himself. Thanks Obama!
Thats sounds really good, lets hope he blows them the fuck out
We're probably gonna get Merkel'd for another 4 years this year
It's somewhat complex, originally they were simply orders to tell established agencies to do what they were already supposed to be doing, as in enforcing a mandate. But now, thanks to policy like the Patriot Act and the NDAA, the President is now a god-king that can do almost anything and arrest dissenters without a trial for an indefinite amount of time for any reason.
>President is now a god-king that can do almost anything and arrest dissenters without a trial for an indefinite amount of time for any reason.
So literally a light Hitler version installed by the dems that is now used against them?
Ohhhh lord the tears are going to be so delicious
Sad to hear that, but look at the leaked memos for tomorrow, they're all over Sup Forums. He's gonna declare the wall officially and get it done. Not even a fucking week and he's already fulfilling most of his campaign promises. If Hillary got elected you know right know she would still be sitting on her ass waiting for a stroke.
He's really gonna make america great again.
> tears are going to be so delicious
You have no idea. Trump is moving at a speed nobody has ever seen a president move. Usually the first week is reserved for presidents to take it all in and do some bullshit symbolic stuff. Trump went straight to work, using executive orders. He said during the campaign that we would all 'get tired of winning'. I'm starting to believe that's true.
Moving to the US now sounds super interesting, I cant wrap my head around the idea to raise kids in this shithole country.
If we get Merkel for another 4 years all hope is truly lost
Come to PA. We have a German heritage, including Pennsilfaanisch Deitsch as a course in the state university
As long as you stay out of the dindu-infested big cities you'll be fine.
If you're white, non-islamic, respect the constitution and are willing carry your own weight and teach your kids all people should do the same, you are invited.
We'll need bodies after booting a few million illegals.
Rapefugees, helping corporation embezzl taxpayer money, lowering wages though immigration
>Cities
Yeah I wanna avoid cities, I'm from rural germany but currently studying in a city and its hell.
I wish I studied at home
The only way to get citizenship is with a greencard right?
They changed the Senate standards for what constitutes a majority to pass executive appointments. This means cabinet positions, some judges, and other appionted positions. The Senate used to require a 3/5ths majority, or 60 senators, to approve an appointee. But in order to break Republicans' ability to filibuster, Dems made it just a simple majority of 51 votes. Meaning that as long as a Trump appointee gets at least 51 Senate votes, they are appointed to office. And right now there are 52 Republicans in the Senate. Meaning Trump has zero incentive to pick centrist appointees to mollify Democrats, and can pick whoever the fuck he wants.
CSPAN should honestly look into censoring its content because showing the Dems getting fucked live on air might get them into trouble.
This. Obama also set the precedent of mass drone strikes, surveillance, and deportations (but clearly not enough). They're mad that Trump gets all this in his hands now.
Something like that idk how to emigrate to my own country. Military service is also an option I heard. But I hope you don't have to. I donated to AFD. If you Krauts can keep up the generals people like me want to help with the meme war for Petry.
I really dont believe AfD is going to be strong.
Even if they are the third-highest party they aren't going to be in the government because no-one wants to coalate with the evil nazis
There is a high possibility for Rot-Rot-Grün which means Left-Left-Green for 4 years.
I dont think there is much hope after that
Forever cucked
I hope something """magical""" can happen. Maybe if Trump and brexit are seen as successful.
Trump, Brexit and everything remotely right-wing is shilled to death in our media.
EVERY MSM oulet is 100% shilling against that stuff
Then maybe the only chance is if they go too hard and disillusion enough people. We need to falseflag their side and exponentially increase the rhetoric.
I just thought of this for Le Pen. Surely we foreigners can help you out by doing the same in German. We could forcefully shill for Merkel in poorly translated German to make her campaign seem inauthentic. thoughts?
Sounds good.
In german in would be: "Deutschland für alle. Wählt Schulz!"
But I'm sure some other german user can find a better wording for that
This. Harry Reid fucked the dems for years by doing this. It's a straight up or down vote now.
what exactly changed with the executive orders?
OBAMA GAVE TRUMP'S FED ORGANIZATIONS THE ABILITY TO SPY ON EVERYBODY AND USE FEDERAL FORCES TO GET THEM FOR CRIMES FOUND
Obama set a precedent. No president before him used executive orders as much as he did as well as a means to set policy i.e. Make laws against will of the people's representatives.
desu people should be prosecuted for the way obamacare was shoved through illegally
also all the criminal behaviour by holder, fast and furious, political targetting etc
inciting rioting in ferguson
>fivethirtyeight
Obama mostly used executive memos which are the same as executive orders but his media friends can spin it by splitting memos and orders even though they're basically the same thing.
Obamacare passed the house and senate. The penalty for not having it went all the way to SCOTUS. While it sucked it wasn't unconstitutional so not illegal.
1. Taxation without representation
“Because the penalty is not assessed on income, it is not a valid income tax. Because the penalty is not assessed uniformly or proportionately, and is triggered by economic inactivity, it is not a valid excise tax. Finally, because ObamaCare fails to apportion the tax among the states by population, it is not a valid direct tax.”
Despite Obama’s public statements that the individual mandate was not a tax, the Supreme Court ruled June 28, 2012, in a 5 to 4 vote, with conservative Chief Justice John Roberts siding with the majority, that the requirement that the majority of Americans obtain health insurance or pay a penalty was constitutional, authorized by Congress’s power to levy taxes.
2. Illegally bypassing Congress? Bribing states?
“The law encourages states to create health-insurance exchanges, but it permits Washington to create them if states decline. … ObamaCare authorizes premium assistance in state-run exchanges (Section 1311) but not federal ones (Section 1321).
“In other words, states that refuse to create an exchange can block much of ObamaCare’s spending and practically force Congress to reopen the law for revisions.”
The Obama administration, however, was furiously at work in an attempt to avoid a legislative debacle. The administration proposed an IRS rule to “offer premium assistance in all exchanges ‘whether established under section 1311 or 1321,'”
The Treasury Department, they continued, was “confident” that the IRS had the authority to offer premium assistance where Congress had not authorized it and that this overreach was “consistent with the intent of the law and [its] ability to interpret and implement it.”
“Such confidence is misplaced,” Adler and Cannon asserted. “The text of the law is perfectly clear. And without congressional authorization, the IRS lacks the power to dispense tax credits or spend money.”
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>but nobody will admit because it was the first black president's only achievement
Arab spring was a pretty good geopolitical move against russia desu
The consequences with ISIS were dragged on too long however and mixed poorly with the changing economic climate from high to low confidence. The immigration crisis really did trigger white right wing identity movements. There was no impetus before that.
New US Russia relations will change the landscape but more than likely it will be a "lets agree to not fuck eachother" type agreement and not a "US RUSSIA best friends" type of agreement.
Obama was a fuck up, but he did do a few important things correctly. His biggest problem IMO was failing to notice the unrest about immigration and not addressing the wrongs about protesting with riots.
He was way too focussed on certain "higher moral" stuff and generally ignored the "practical justice" that is from a more analytic strain of thought.
He will be remembered fondly by this generation and the next. But the ones after will look at him like an idiot.
His greatest achievement imo is beginning a shift towards identity politics which is now backfiring heavily against liberals.
Identity politics is so toxic engaging in it is well, a guaranteed redpill for society. Gotta play with fire to get burned to learn just how fucking stupid it is. No one listens to philosophers.
His biggest flaw was easily his lack of accountability and general failures in foreign policy. He was very uninvolved but when he did get involved it was militarily and usually not that great.
>but nobody will admit because it was the first black president's only achievement
well, he did kind of start the alt-right and destroy the democrap party forever, so there is that
I'm not arguing the law itself's constitutionality as I myself disagreed with Roberts. I was talking about the way it was passed was constitutional.
if you do something unconstitutional constitutionally, it becomes constitutional?
what?
it originated in teh senate, and appropriates funds. all funding bills have to originate in the house
Patriot Act was the most unconstitutional law ever passed. But it still passed. This is basic civics, 3 branches of gov checks and balances. The legislative branch has a long history of creating unconstitutional laws and the executive branch signing them into law. It is the judiciary branches job to determine if those laws abide by the constitution.
Please show me the section of the constitution that states it has to start in the house. It doesn't matter where it starts as long as it passes the house and senate. And ACA passed both.
>“Impeachable Offenses” cites Article 1, Section 7 of the Constitution, which states: “All bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives.”
what are we even arguing about? I think people who pass unlawful laws should be prosecuted
The exact part you are quoting doesn't apply because of the way SCOTUS decided. If SCOTUS would have determined it to be a tax then that applies.
>the way Obamacare was shoved thru illegally
It wasn't passed illegally
I suppose our definitions of how constitutionality is determined differ. I think that some faggy liberal paid off activist judges letting something through doesn't mean it's constitutional
"The tip to follow this course of action came from the Supreme Court itself. In his June 28, 2012, ruling, Chief Justice Roberts took pains in the majority opinion to define Obamacare as a federal tax, not a mandate.
The Justice Department claimed that the bill did not originate as a spending bill and therefore does not violate the Origination Clause.
The bill, which began life as House Resolution 3590, then called the Service Members Home Ownership Act, was stripped of its contents after it passed in the House in a process known as “gut and amend.” The legislation was replaced entirely with the thousands of pages of what eventually became Obamacare and given a new name.
The Obama government’s position is that while using the resolution as a “‘shell bill’ may be inelegant … it’s not unconstitutional.”
The foundation’s response, as documented in “Impeachable Offenses,” was that “it is undisputed that H.R. 3590 was not originally a bill for raising revenue. … Unlike in the prior cases [cited by the Justice Department], the Senate’s gut-and-amend procedure made H.R. 3590 for the first time into a bill for raising revenue. The precedents the government cites are therefore inapplicable.”
While the Justice Department contended that raising revenue was incidental to Obamacare’s “central purpose” – to improve the nation’s health care system – the foundation’s attorney, Timothy Sandefur, disagreed.
“What kinds of taxes are not for raising revenue?” he asked."
We agree. I guess I'm just being a nit picking faggot on the wording. Dealt with too many idiots that don't understand the process.
This was failure in our checks and balances which are there for the sole purpose of keeping unconstitutional laws staying laws.
>laws FROM staying laws
ah, fair enough
I think all those cucks and faggots that voted for this shit, including the ones who voted for it on the supreme court should be locked up, at a minimum
is there a process for impeaching or prosecuting a supreme court judge?
The reality is, that the United States in a lot of ways is in a constitutional crisis. The federal government is running out of control and it needs to be reigned in. The Soviets tried for decades to corrupt one of the political parties and they succeed. The Democrats seek to push the United States further into statism so they can push a socialist agenda.
Obama should have been impeached because he violated the right of congress to have power of the purse. Obama authorized spending with his pen and phone.
Yes Chase in 1805 was impeached. IIRC same process for pres and fed judges is used. House votes on articles of impeachment then trial in senate.
Our judicial branch is cucked. I think it was Jefferson who said paraphrasing The seed to the demise of our republic is planted in the judicial branch.
I agree with everything you said, but I think they corrupted both parties, and I think it was jewish rather than soviet(although the two overlap somewhat)
I don't know enough to know how it's corrupt, but the Dems have those super delegates.
cjekkked
ah, interesting
that bitch who said "well' have to pass it to find out what is in it" should be impeached/prosecuted also, along with any of them who advocated against the 2a or any other part of the constitution they swore an oath to defend
I assume that would be almost all the democraps?
Yes I think that was polosi or boxer, those dikes all look alike. But both parties are guilty of this. The patriot act had republicans running around saying if you voted against it you were unpatriotic. All the while none of them had read it.
I had that Bitch Pelosi as my rep when I lived in San Francisco. Now I live in Louisiana and have Clay Higgins as my rep a cop who was fired for calling out the thugs in a black street gang on TV.
I went from having Pelosi to this guy when I moved. Talk about a 180
dailycaller.com
oh, that guy? heh, I remember that vid, badass
I'm not sure how many of the reps could be impeached for breaking hteir oaths, but if there is no consequence for breaking it, then there is nothing stopping them