Why are feminism, socialism and regionalism so strong in Spain? Why is this allowed? What happened to conservative...

Why are feminism, socialism and regionalism so strong in Spain? Why is this allowed? What happened to conservative, patriarchical Spain?

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We are retarded.

Leave the EU asap

It's always been that way since the early 1900s when the anarchist and communist unions gained a lot of support and power. They allied with the modernist left-leaning Republicans and basically were extremely reactionary against the traditional monarchy at the time which wasn't working all that well for everybody. Spain since Franco has been the same, even if he was good for the economy and the country overall, there's still been a lot of backlash and reaction against it driving people leftward.

Also desu from what I've heard the cancer is really concentrated, Catalonia apparently has it extremely bad, I mean, what do you expect from the home of the CNT-FAI, but the rest of the country doesn't seem so pozzed or Left-Wing.

Zapatero happened

>regionalism
Kingdom of kingdoms are no longer united by a common cause

Unlike most of Europe, Spain remained conservative under a WWII era fascist dictator until the 70s. They're basically going through their own 1960s right now.

Also the general decline of religion hasn't helped. Not that the Far Left in Pre-Civil War Spain did much to help that.

Pic related is a nun they killed and paraded. Many such cases. Sad!

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kek
this too

There is still a big resistance to what Franco's dictatorship represented.
Mind you there wasn't a big breakout or revolution to attain democracy, but it was handed out by the sweet death of Franco and through his dolphin the King, with the permission of the military and politicians of back then (who were as fed up with the dictatorship as the rest of the folk).
It means that the transition process has been longer. There are still (and will continue to be) monuments to Franco. The big families who got rich thanks to Franco, continue being the richest. This changes, slowly, over time, but takes longer than what a sudden and forceful regime change would have brought.
The church made many tactical mistakes, like using the most uncharismatic troll ever as a local leader (Rouco) and pressuring to hide pederasty even after all northern europe was way past that stage. I loved Ratzinger. He tried to crash down hard on the Church degeneracy, but he lacked help to make the punch in Spain.

This. A fucking walking nightmare.

>Gay marriage.
>Easy immigration, if Latin straight to passport.
>More regionalism.
>More Feminism.
>Disastrous polices exacerbating bubble.

Zapatero was btfo by Rajoy, but it seems that PP is fighting with PSOE about who is the cuckiest party of Spain. Viva la muerte cuándo?

At least PSOE and Podemos are in a civil war right now.

Easy inmigration is what fucked Spain hard since it then followed the huge bubble. At least his idea of Ministerio de Igualdad is fucking dead as shit.

Zapatero was BTFO by the troika, desu
Easy immigration worsened the unemployement situation in the country, but let's not forget that the issue was massive lowskilled national workers in the first place

>Why are feminism, socialism and regionalism so strong in Spain?
What's up with people repeating this over and over again, even though feminism is minimal in here and the only socialist party in the country has nuked itself 3 months ago?

>What happened to conservative, patriarchical Spain?
You do realize the conservative party is in power, right?

This pretty much and the fact that we have no 'democratic/citizen culture'.

Spain's territory is politically organized as a set of taifas/cacique sectors which constantly drain the state's economic resources for a regional 'dick measurement competition'.

Plus, the government (be it regional or state) is organized as a nepotist mafia-like organization that pups the statefunds to private corporations for public project-licensing, whcih doesn't translate into a strong economy system.

there's no right wing inside spain, right wings are marxists ande cucked christians that praise idols and don't even know anything about christ

And by real state and airports bubble.

You mean there's no true liberals in spain, right?
There's right wing conservatives, socialdemocrat conservatives and even pesudo-libs, now

well, liberals are lefties
'liberalismo' in spanish is libertarianism
and no, there's no libertarianism in spain, even if libertarianism and the culture of the US founding fathers was born in Salamanca

right inside spain is not traditionalist nor pro freemarket, spain is extremely socialist in their genes

fascism inside spains is really socialists, there's not really that big of a difference with the republicans/commies

the nationalism inside spain is a worldwide special snowflake, we're the only part of the world where nationalism is hardcore cultural marxism; more socialism more globalism kek

right wing call themselves conservatives, they're not, they're degenerates and commies that want welfare state

I love how the first post ITT was made by some retarded self hating countryman. That irrational defeatist attitude is actually why our country doesn't excel in the sciences or arts despite putting out a lot of talent.

>libertarianism and the culture of the US founding fathers was born in Salamanca

How so?

Don't fall in the Sup Forums trap that is confusing state intervention in the economy with the word 'socialist'
There's right wing intervention and left wing intervention

SOMEDAY WE WILL BE INDEPENDENT!

gora euskal herria

Basque are blonde...rigth?

Question, why the fuck do you all hate the free market so much? What will it take for the people to accept capitalism? Does a burger need to go over and act like trump?

>christ
0 wants his meme back

It feels good not going bankrupt when you need to go to the hospital

It feels good not ending up on big ass debt in order to go to college

Yes, you get raped with taxes specially as an entrepeneur.

In US, there are less taxes, but you get raped with debt.

What im saying is: You CAN'T win unless you find a way to get rich, here or in US or in anywhere on the planet. Life is a fucking scam if you aren't born rich/you luck out and get rich.

I'm eternally confused on Franco. Was he a good or bad leader?

>lead a bloody civil war full of atrocities
>made spain stronger and richer
>annihilated socialism, but killed many civilians in the process
>fascism vs democracy

I can't make up my mind.

Ayy gracias cucks now we are filling 4 flights a day to Madrid and some more to Barcelona

But surprisingly Colombians are not staying cause Spain sucks and they don't dare to stay somewhere else cause Muslims

I'm just grateful that thanks to Spain I was finally able to go there and had sex with a blonde, blue eyed german cutie

>What happened to conservative, patriarchical Spain?
Franco made the mistake of thinking the Catholic Church he had protected from the Communist/Socialist/Republican scum was the old Church, rather than the Pozzed post Vatican II church, so he allowed it to maintain authority within Spain despite the fact that it was actively spreading poz and beginning to encourage cancers like feminism/socialism.

no, all intervention is socialist
it's not a pol meme, it's a definition of socialism
democracy is socialist you fucking faggot

not politiced legal frames, that are just involved with justice and discouragement, resolution and repayment of conflicts and damage, are not an intervention to the economy

and right wings here don't look for that, they want welfare state, that's socialism even if it surprises you

we're already living in socialism, it just can always go worse if the state starts invading more and more aspects of life and

why the fuck you can't use a bunch of land for w/e you want on this country, because property rights are a joke, you have just a virtual rights to do w/e they allow/sell you permits to do

fkin cucks

There's free market. We participate in the common market, have free trade etc.etc.

There is however the view that the state is the guarantor and provider of freedom..
...As opposed to anglo-countries who view the state as a potential oppressor of freedom of contracting citizens.

This has lead to the european state structure of the state as a guarantor of the spots that the market does not cover efficiently i.e.:
>low-income families' healthcare
>rural education
>public stable pensions
>etc.

The state is the vertebrator of the community as opposed to anglo-origin countries.
But again, this is not a sign of right vs. left, right wing politics also hold to this scope of understanding the state

disclaimer: Im' not trying to defend it, it's just an explanation

>it's a definition of socialism
>democracy is socialist you fucking faggot
Stopped right there Your definition =/= the definition

fucking idiot

US college/health insurance are a bubble economy just because their monetary policies aimed to subsidie those services

>b-but their hospitals and schools are private! *with southern spanish negro accent

yes, and the secures to cover hospital use and the lending system to students is literally the opposite of a private bussiness/free market, you fucking ignorant

Do you mean this isn't the typical shit? Damn, I have to move from this shitty country, any recommendation?

fucking goblins you are worse than Maketos in basque country,

get out from basqueland

le socialism is just and only marx's objectives meme

if so, there wouldn't be any socialists

marxism has evolved and instead of stealing bussiness means of production they directly rape on profits of the bussiness/workforce directly and indirectly with taxation over consumption, property, energy and inflation

you're retarded

Your ideology is a meme and will never be implemented anywhere in the world, you might as well kill yourself right now.

Vox is the last hope, and it is a pretty retarded last hope, but it's what we have now.

Unless spolniards organize ourselves in order to create a proper political party. But I feel that 99% spaniards that browse pol are too autists for that.

>exhilied venezuelans are likely more educated than you fucking retards
goblins are conquering basqueland , fuck you Spain ...first andalusians ruining this country in 1960 and now again with spic inmigration

fpbp

The bottom of the mediterranean sea, you fucking cuck.

I don't have ideologies, I'm traditionalist conservative and well educated in finances and economics, and while an idiot like you drown in the mud in the following decades I'm going to laught and get confy on all your wasted sweat

I'll have your property and you'll be outside its walls

Its so characteristicly niggerish of you. Not surprised.

So in a sense, all you need is a leader with balls.

t. Franco

People who really hate free market and can't stop ranting about it are mostly commies and liberals.

For everybody else, this country has a dual market, one is absolutely controlled by the state and consists basically in people receiving several gibs (specially immigrants, perroflautas and shit), and the other one is a market absolutely free, 0 state intervention, which is the principal cause that this country is not in an utter chaos

Joke's on you I'm not planning to work anytime in the future.

It would literally be "Le fascism is good" meme. We need to know how to improve our shitty economy. I propose getting out of the EU, cutting inmigration and having a nationalized industry.

>killing spaniards and sudakas.

i feel good ,man

>Vox
>A bunch of old expeperos cuckservatives
>the last hope
They will never amount to anything. What Spain needs if anything is some kind of alt-right movement, encompassing conservatives, nationalists and libertarians.

Can anyone redpill me on Falangism, De Rivera and Franco? I have very little knowledge on this spainbros.

Its simple

Countries like Spain or Greece,that have lived through brutal dictatorships dont want anything to do with fascism and tend to lean left.Period

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Make spain great again

You fucking retard. If your dumb ass got cancer in the US you would go bankrpt, you dumb fucking autist, stop idealizing foreing countries. All countries are dogshit if you are not making good money, fucking coping autist.

>We need to know how to improve our shitty economy.
>I propose getting out of the EU, cutting inmigration and having a nationalized industry.
kek

a la cuneta

You are a delusional wagecuck.

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Only low IQ grandpas and roid munchers belong into the Falange.

Franco was dogshit just like all dictators. Get shoot if you get caught talking shit about the system tier.

that can't be possible, there are no paleoconservatives here, spanish tradition has been fucked up since so many generations ago

there's no right to look back proud

franco was a socialist and he's who started our fucking welfare state for fuck shake

muh public education, muh pensions, muh health care, muh unions

it's a joke, spaniards can't see anything good looking back, our cultural genes are horrible

Spain was good without being part of any shitty group with other countries. Also remove welfare, this would encourage people to go to work or die in the street.

learn english retard, so the next time you understand what I said instead

>What happened to conservative, patriarchical Spain?
Tons of queens and Basque.

They'll be a matriarchy soon enough.

>implying it wouldn't encourage people stealing

>the next time
>learn english
But who was grammar you pale aspie

fuck off commie faggot

as you can see even in Sup Forums half the spaniards are leftards, that is the problem

Falangism was similar to fascism, but with more emphasis in our Catholic religion and Spanish nationalism. Jose Antonio Primo de Rivera basically admired Mussolini and wanted to create a movement inspired after his, which could last longer than his father Miguel's regime (who had ruled Spain as a dictator between 1923 and 1930).

As for Franco, he was more of an old-school traditionalist, tolerated Primo de Rivera but didn't really like him.

Ramiro Ledesma was the thinking head behind falangism.

Basically it has 3 pillares: 1) A big National Union unyfing workers and bosses. 2) Family. 3) Nation. There is also a really important catholic sense in it, and its problem its also its best virtue, as Primo de Rivera said:

>Spain is a oneness in destiny

It means that if you're a beaner, a nigger, or a nordic, you are also spanish as long as you speak our language, follow our traditions, and you are catholic.

It is like a spanish version of Juche, but in a fascist version instead of a communism one and pretty catholic.

lel

He's probably underage. The spaniard youth is fucking stupid as fuck, I swear if you genocide every fucking millenial you'll see a pure right-wing Spain.

Also Franco could have saved Primo de Rivera, but instead that faggot wanted the power to himself and let Primo de Rivera rot in a fucking prison.

I wish Franco was the one who died and Primo de Rivera the one who ruled.

maybe when spain is finally destroyed, which doesn't seem to far from now lmoa

i don't think millenial genocide would solve the problem. it would help to get rid of a more grim future, tho

Top 10 anime betrayals.

>muh commie muh commie he is against my memeology he must be a commiee muh commieeeeerererer
Fucking brain washed retard.

Only rural rednecks and suburban retards voted for PP

All city people voted for Podemos

Just like Sweden is a testing ground for mass muslim inmigration, Brazil for a future NWO socialist order, South Korea a feminist state etc...

Spain is a testing ground for turning a fascist country into a socialist shithole.

That's why.

The left is incredibly rooted everywhere, and being a patriot is considered fascist and despicable

>he must be underage he is against my memeology
>pure right-wing Spain

Is this how you cope?

All those patriarchs went to south america.

>The spaniard youth
>when spain is finally destroyed
>SOMEDAY WE WILL BE INDEPENDENT!

You don't seem to understand that in a short time Mari and Sugaar will return, and the Basque Matriarchy will rule all of Spain.

>Top 10 anime betrayals.

Sugaar is also called Sugoi, coincidentally Japanese for "amazing".

>Fuck Rajoydumpf and fuck facha people

because this country is filled with brainwashed retards, that's why. nuke the main cities ffs

It's mainly because of the (((education))) they recieved.
>Muh right wing politics is bad
>Muh republicans did nothing wrong
>Muh guilt of genociding american natives
>Muh Spain is a piece of shit

And critisizing your retarded ideology automatically makes me a "rojo"

Both sides are brain washed sects. Feels bad being an issolated ascended human.

I've met many skinheads that were retarded as fuck m8.

They're all the same shit. Low-tier peon niggers fighting for shit causes.

There is no christian right wing in spain, just opus dei catholicucks and stupid """"nazi"""" niggers

eat a dick you spineless faggot, I bet you think abortion and gay marriage are fine

what a joke

>muh millenials
Is this how you cope?

Gora España maricón

Who gives a fuck about what some faggots do? Or what some girl does with his retarded fetus? it's not my life. You are delusional if you think we will ever go back to a time where faggots were marginalized you coping Christfag.

>Who gives a fuck about what some faggots do? Or what some girl does with his retarded fetus? it's not my life. You are delusional if you think we will ever go back to a time where faggots were marginalized you coping Christfag.


TOP KEK HOW MANY FEDORAS ARE YOU WEARING RIGHT NOW?

stop trying to push your idiotic ideals as the only logical option

But why do you want to shatter the delusional dreams of they thinking muh right is some group of illuminated people?

Those delusional mongs need to visit Casa Pepe and look at the freak show of embarrassing low IQ subhumans that gather on there.

There is literally no hope. Everyone is fucking retarded.

Slice your wrists with that edge, faggot

I know, neonazis are trash. Im just complaining how there really isn't a real right wing movement like Jose Antonio's.

>muh fedoras
Is this how you cope?

Authoritarian Conservative Iberian Union when?

The state has more control on narratives than most know.

It's how they always stay on top