Is MGTOW the only alternative left?

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If you are not a Chad or Jamal is there any point in trying to find a relationship nowadays?

What does this mean for society?
What you have now is unsustainable, unless you think you can have a civil society where a large portion of the male population has no meaningful relationship to society or their communities. It's tragic. It's actually a disaster. Women should be ashamed of themselves.
Now that the princesses have been knocked off their pedestals and any man who wants to look can see the ugly truth for what it is, I offer the following advice to them: 1. You have a right to your feelings about it. Your experiences are valid and widely shared. 2. Never forgive women. They don't deserve it. That feeling you feel in your gut is hatred. It's a healthy and natural response to the bankrupt, pathetic, and cruel world women have created. 3. Let others call you a loser, whiner, misogynist, etc. Who cares? You have no incentive to play along anymore.

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We're fucked

Women only react within the limits of their nature. Us as men are to blame for not properly limiting their behavior and leading them. We're the ones that have allowed things to get this bad.

Just dont be a beta

>make 50 cuckold comics every single day
>still draw just as awful as five years ago

I hate this artist so much

I rather be a MGTOW than be a cuck.

His eagle tattoo looks kind of like a nazi symbol. He also has what looks like an iron cross.

This, is that a skinhead chad?

>mgtow
>not realising that it's just (((_))) ploy to bring down the white race
>feminism to divide from women side
>mgtow to divide from men side

How about just starting to improve yourself, not loose hope to false prophets and continue the white legacy you autists?

I don't blame guys for feeling resentful about how shit most women are nowadays, but I promise there are still plenty of good ones. If you want to meet them, stay off tinder and out of meat market bars and join some clubs related to your interests. It might take a while, but they're out there, many also wondering if there are any decent men left. Good luck.

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Anyone else here recently just say "screw it" and is planning on visiting a brothel to get pussy?

I'm not settling down with the town bicycle. May as well screw a prostitute since at least they're honest.

No its the Jews user. They initiated the sexual revolution in the 60s and killed monogamy. Men will act in their best interest and getting divorce raped is not in that interest

>MGTOW

Back to the basement you go

kek

>maybe it's time to lower your standards
Women tend to have very high standards now. In large part because of social media, dating sites and tinder. They get all the attention they want online. And they can fuck hot guys on dating sites and tinder because most guys aren't too picky when they're horny and they're happy to fuck lots of girls. This really inflates their ego.

I wish I could believe you but experience tells me otherwise.

By choosing MGTOW you are fighting against the Jewish feminist agenda.

Bah. Can't be all that great to fuck someone who would rather not. This is not the real experience. Fuck it desu. I just fap instead. Sometimes I think of taking SSRIs to nuke my libido kek.

tell me how MGTOW will help with building a family?

>Sometimes I think of taking SSRIs to nuke my libido kek.
I've thought of that but nah.

Fuck it who cares, they want money, I want pussy. It's a win on both ends.

>be fat
>be ugly
>be unshaven
>go exclusively for women way hotter than you
>complain about not getting enough pussy

How can one person be so bitter and entitled?

>be a cuck

Why though? Sex with someone you don't care about isn't very appealing to me. If it's just to stick your dick in a wet hole then why bother. There's gotta be more to it than that. And even with a hooker, there is, but it's weird. And you can't do much of anything with a hooker anyway.
At least with casual sex you both want it, so there's that. Even then I think I'd rather just fap kek.

be a good goy, you don't need a woman to pass on your genes goyim! (((MGTOW))) is the answer!

He's right, though. Weak men don't deserve anything. Any man can be strong if he puts his mind to it, they don't need to be scruffy emaciated/fat losers.

>being this deluded

Clearly made by a beta

I'm fit and only mildly ugly and my facial hair is under control and I don't really have standards but autism is hell of drug.

It told me the same thing. Just when I was ready to give up my last shred of hope I met my wife. If it helps, think of it like looking for a job - 100s of shitty interviews can be really disheartening (especially the ones you're interested in that turn you down), but you only need to find one. I hope things work out for you man, whatever form that takes. Also happy Australia day!

Bend a girl over, grab her hard by the hips, and feel the sensation of her ass cheeks up against your lower stomach as you bury your dick to the hilt, and then get back to me.

What I'm trying to say is that it's so much better than fapping. You blow your load harder than you ever thought possible.

>does not understand nature's rules of selection
Only the strongest, prettiest, wittiest gets to mate. Humans are mammals, animals. Impress your mate or die childless. Who's the cuck here to begin with? Improve yourself you lousy motherfucker and stop spewing this shit to gullible boipussies who just might take all this seriously.

Yeah, fuck em. Just not worth a relationship when you know she'll cheat on you then take half your stuff on the way out

You can call me deluded but this is the reality that we face in the western world.

The question is what are you going to do about it?

Hit the gym and do weights, user, sounds like you lack testosterone.

Eh, if you don't have an emotional connection it isn't. My hand grips harder than any pussy

You've convinced me. I'm gonna buy a silicon butt.

>You can call me deluded but this is the reality that we face in the western world.
>MGTOWs actually believe ths

You need to get out of your basement more son

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Honestly a perfectly acceptable alternative. It's almost as good, the only thing lacking is the warmth

I was gonna shitpost and close the thread, because I find this topic usually annoying, but after my post failed to go, I decided I should try and understand your point of view

So i have two, open-ended, and only loosely related questions. Please don't exaggerate or take this as mocking, I simply do not understand you people.

1) If you feel unattractive (physically, socially, et al), do you think about it all of the time? Is it something that is constantly filtering the lens you see the world through?

2) What is it like to be secually impotent (to any degree) and/or have any degree of dick-size insecurity?

I occasionally feel unattractive in the moment, but overall I feel good about and rate by ability to attract females as good. Not great, but I've always had at least one girl or more interested in me sexually since I was a teenager, the only exception being during months where I had little social life/free time and I always assumed most of you put in zero effort, but I want to reconsider that idea

I was that chad fucking a girl in a dirty public restroom while her phone was beeping with messages from some beta. I even told her to put the toilet seat down while she was sucking me because there was some shit left on it and it was smelling. LOL

>muh emotions

Are you even a male?

So we listened to the Jews and allowed them to fuck us. Maybe that's true. Doesn't matter. We can only try to fix it or crash the system.

The top betas are leftiez. The idea is that they will drop their ideals for chad.
They will Redhill themselves or at least pretend this is the case for chad.
They would rather share Chad than have a 1 on 1 relationship with cucks.

Cool. I wonder why they aren't microwavable yet. Maybe they are. Or you can just dip them in warm water maybe.
I don't really care though. My fapping routine is just fine as it is. I don't want to make it more trouble. I'd have to set things up and clean and hide that thing.

I am MGTOW

I am the master of my destiny.

My GOAL is to be A MAN and die alone.

I will NEVER give away my dignity, I will NEVER BE a cuck.

I stand against the Jews and their feminist agenda.

I am MGTOW and I am FREE.

i completely forgot about fefe

Anyone who tells you to just not be a beta doesn't know where you're coming from
If you have to ask the question, I'm a afraid you know the answer.
If there was anything you could do about it, the question wouldn't occur to you.
I'm sorry.

>You blow your load harder than you ever thought possible.

This only happens for me if I have an emotional connection with the girl. Otherwise it's the same as wanking.

Fucking pussy. Stop bitching about women and turn yourself into a Chad. Lift heavy and stop jerking off faggot.

Trust me when I say its gonna be the most honesy sex you'll ever had.

Literally this for that and walk away, of course if its just pussy you're after.

If you want actual intimacy and all that lovey docey feels shit than you won't get it with a hooker unless you pay her extra.

You're better off finding a 6/10 to do that with

If you really believe this shit just kill yourself.
Just fucking end it there is no hope for you.

>he doesn't know
archive.is/vCQTM
Read and enjoy

If you can tell what you need to fuck bitches, get it?

Just become what you need to be, we are men, do something about. Become that huge guy and treat the bitches like the whores they are.

>My goal is to die alone

You can´t make this shit up

>but I've always had at least one girl or more interested in me sexually since I was a teenager
Jesus fuck, GTFO normie.
Never had a single girl interested in me.

You don't understand. This is bigger than dick size or height insecurities.

This is a scheme developed by the Jews to enslave the average man in order to divide and destroy our societies. Women and their natural hypergamy are being used as weapons against us by the Jews.

To be a MGTOW is to be free, and us being free is exactly what the Jews don't want.

BREAKING NEWS!!!

RADICAL OBAMA ALT-LEFT TERRORISTS ARE PROTESTING BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET DADDY GOVERNMENTS MONEY!

I'm average I would say. I'm just 5'11" and I'm not chubby, not scrawny.

I had my luck used up on 8/10s and one rare 10outta10, but this was while I was in high school and the military.

Now being 28, bearing 29 there are just no viable daring options.

I have a receding hairline and it bothers me at times but it doesn't come up in conversation with people.

Beyond that I just go to work and play vidya. There's no way I can get a girl with how women are these days.

So I'm just "over it".

do you really think money protects people? would it protect some president when he has knife pressed tightly to his throat? humans are small, small creatures, to act like you're big or protected or superior in any way just because you have money, pathetic. talking to rich people, not you directly

If the choice is to die alone but a free and dignified man or to be a cuck I choose to be a MGTOW alone with my mind at peace.

Women have let themselves become weapons against us by the Jews, I will show no mercy to them just as I won't to the Jews.

Yes, try super hard to make my, I mean your, life "better" and then one day you'll die, good goy.

Perspective, life is brutish, short and cruel.
Make it through the days and you win.

Fuck that. I'm waiting for pure AI waifus. Lord knows we have the graphics engines for it.

Take your weak shit to reddit, Mr. Limbaugh.

>If the choice is to die alone but a free and dignified man or to be a cuck
But that's not the choice, retard. Dying alone isn't a thing to strive for.

Everyone dies alone.

>tfw mgtow not by choice

I'd rather just accept it than try to chase women.

Most people die with their friend and relatives with them. Of course, this requires having friends, counting you right out.

I've come to the point where I've accepted that I might not find a wife but I'd prefer one.

This, holy shit

Stop blaming women for not wanting to have sex with you. It's survival of the fittest, you're supposed to GIVE them a reason to want to have sex with you.

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(((Most)))
Fuck off back to Hallmark.
Fucking Disney princess over here, if you're lucky your perspective on that will never change, I wouldn't count on it though.

BASED JAPAN

Why is this thread not in /r9k/?

Get this shit outta here.

IKTF
"Men Sent Their Own Way"

Yes it's called not being a huge vagina and knowing what attractiveness of women you can actually access

Like for me, I rate myself at about a 5 - I used to rate lower but I raised it slightly due to success. Knowing this, I am aware I have basically zero chance scoring a 7 or above at all so I just ignore them. But 5/6s are absolutely fair game, and the push to 6 is much easier if I aim for the often neglected university girls (men are practically 10-20% of the student body these days). Now since I've been in the game a while I know what is a retarded thing to say or do, so I do not do those things. I stuck out the rough period of learning to socialise and know all the cues, when I'm supposed to speak and listen, when I can start introducing touch to a girl I want to fuck

You see, this shit is kind of basic if you spend lots of time with other human beings. "Chad" can't explain it to you because he never studied his actions, he just naturally knows what to do because of learned social cues that he never thought about while learning

MGTOW is for beta little mummy boys who want to throw all their toys out the pram because they didn't immediately get given everything they wanted when faced with adversity and a lack of knowledge which was their own fault (highschool isn't everything, kids)

i do feel unattractive (because i am) but i don't really think about that at all.

my dick is literally 3 inches if i lost weight i might gain an inch, i'd rather be fat and die of a heart attack/stroke at an early age than be skinny and not get pussy because of my dick size. i wouldn't get pussy either way so i might as well find some joy in food.

1. It's always in the back of my head. It's gotten to the point where I will see an attractive woman, think about saying hello, and then remind myself that I'm a fucking idiot with nothing to offer. I'm not even that physically unattractive, I just have an awful personality.

2. My dick is slightly above average, but it doesn't matter because no woman will ever see it.

A lot of this is my own problem. I've had low self-esteem since forever, but I also hate interacting with most people because they're vapid, easily offended, and suckered by the media into believing pop culture is the most important thing ever. I just can't connect, and I've slowly lost any motivation to try.

is he redpilled?

>Being this bitter

I like how you don't criticize yourself or other men for only wanting the perfect sexiest girls, but girls get the shit for wanting the sexiest, strongest more assertive guys.

2-D >> 3-D

>Traditionalists BTFO'd
>Women BTFO'd
>Stormfags BTFO'd

You lose when you play the game and you lose when you don't. It's fucked.

Let me tell you that I have been a robot, finessed myself and learned to talk to women, in turn I realized I'm much more handsome than I assumed and there are girls who are willing to fuck me. I indulged in the one-night-stand culture and fucked around, but it gave me nothing but a few funny stories.

After being chad for 6 years now, I finally realize that I want to go back to being a loner again. There are NO and I repeat NO women out there worth my time, money, emotions or dick.

Right after my break-up with a self-righteous bitch that never took blame for anything cause she was a complete narcissist, I found myself in bed with a girl that has been with her boyfriend for over 5 years. It's a long story of how we ended up, but lets say there was this big party. They both met when they were virgins, and live happily together. I was just about to fuck her when I realized what I'm doing to the guy (who is not my friend, but still a nice guy) so I told her I'm not in the mood. She grinded her ass on me all night trying to make something happen, so I went to sleep on the couch instead. She was gone the next day.

Next week at a party I got a girl telling me I'm handsome so we started talking. She asked me if I was free tonight and that she'd fuck my brains out. I was like yeah. A friend of mine came by and said "Get it on, dog! She has a boyfriend she lives with but he ugly lol". I went home. Did some stalking and found out they have been together since she turned 18 and my friend told me he was her only one when it came to sex.

Both of those things happened within 20 days after my breakup.

Both of these girls were the really cute but quiet type.

Women are FUCKING trash whores nowadays and slut-shaming should be brought back. I'm going my own fucking way, I have no respect or emotions left to give to these disappointing sluts. If you are a woman: fuck yourself cause no real man would.

>When we asked for numbers to the people that did have sex: Girls did it on average less than the few guys that did. That means that a couple guys score with almost al the women.
No. This means someone is lying. The average has to be, by definition, the same. Fucking dumb retards.

Typical canadian all the way to the obsession with dicks

Explain to me why I would want to spend the time taking a girl on dates for a month when she had pornstar style sex on the first date with a random 6+ foot Jamal or Chad with a 12 inch penis they met on tinder.

And its not just the hot ones either, even below average chubby girls are only out there looking for the most alpha of men.

shave your head and start lifting weights you bitch

That article makes me feel suicidal.

Problem is that women do get them. Not extreme like in pic related, but enough to cause an imbalance such that it's like there is an effective surplus of men.

Yeah, shits depressing. I'm 30 so I dont get as lonely as I used to but Im occasionally reminded.

I like massage parlors from time to time. Nice massage to relax muscles, get some human touch, handjob at the end. Its cheaper than most prostitutes or going out to bars often or strip clubs or whatnot.

For now I just take what I can get, hope my career continues and that I can retire early. Maybe get an international bride 1 point higher than me in attractiveness.

>wants women
>women want chad
>wont chadify himself
You know, when i complain about the job market people just say 'get a job', so i'm gonna give you the equivalent advice.
Get a gym membership.

Oh the sweet disharmony lads!!
; filthy whores, feminist flowers who deserve our respect
.. .. Lay that pipe while you can.

yes MGTOW all the way

>waaah why do i hav to effort
>lets just assume shit i read on the internet
I've got a few things to say to you

First, stop being just a fucking manchild baby. Second, stop indulging in your confirmation bias. If you are on Sup Forums you have the duty of properly researching your information without bias. It's how there is a constant feed of alternative news coming through here, because people more intelligent and dedicated than you do the legwork for 90% of Sup Forums

Second thing is, women are human beings just like you. Just like you have the urge to jerk off to anime porn all day, women get the urge to masturbate just as much. Most women aren't getting these "Chads" you imagine are just wandering around fucking everyone. A lot of women are literally not being touched, and eventually *some* can make a mistake because of this reason

So many of the women I've slept with and spent time with have confirmed what it is actually like to be a woman in this day and age. These women aren't trying to fucking game you, they are just human beings. The rotten ones are found mostly in the literal underclasses (the chavs for my country)

For many, many generations, men have had a deal with society, and it goes like this:

In exchange for signing up to be drafted and maybe killed; in return for working like dray horses for the vast majority of our useful lives; as a reward for being good citizens who aren't looting, pillaging, raping, and setting fire to everything in sight ...

We get a stable job, enough to eat, and a chance to seek a helpmeet ... a wife. Water seeks its own level and we roughly get the wives we deserved, with whom we could share our lives and our livelihoods. We marry and produce more citizens, workers, and soldiers for the state, we retire and live out the remainder of our lives with some dignity.

Deal's broken. Our jobs aren't stable; our marriage contract means nothing in the land of no-fault divorce; and our children, paychecks, and homes may be taken from us at a moment's notice. Nobody feels loyal to a man anymore. We're all disposable. The deal has been off for a few decades now, we're just starting to pick up on it. Your company doesn't give a shit about you, neither does any woman you date. Your employer has developed strategies to replace you at a moment's notice if they can't outright get rid of your job and your girlfriend has been explicitly raised with "boys are stupid, throw rocks at them" contempt since she was four.

The only rational response is to LET GO and STOP PRETENDING that the deal is still on. It's not. It hasn't been in your lifetime. It's brutal, depressing, and liable to cause a sense of aimlessness, but those things don't make the situation any different.

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Based britbong

Norway VS iceland.

Norway. wins. Factuality

>get an international bride
What the fuck kind of relationship would that be?
Besides you're bringing them to the west. Literally never been a better time and place to be a woman in all of human history.
How is she not gonna divorce your sorry ass?
They could dump her on the shore with nothing but the clothes off her back and she'd have a better quality of life than she could ever have hoped for by the end of the week. Probably a better quality of life than most guys too.
>1 point higher than me in attractiveness
You sound pretty superficial desu.