Hello Patriots. This general is for the discussion of anti-Marxism, the ideology of counteracting revolutionary socialism and communism. So far, we have created a Twitter account and to-be movement, called the Minutemen, but we're having trouble recruiting.
We have a masterplan (secret, non-LARP), however part of it requires a decently large, non-edgy, non-NatSoc Twitter presence (may be hard considering this is pol).
Any suggestions as to how to achieve this are welcome, and if you want to be part of the movement why not follow the Twitter account too:
Followed, doing my bit for the movement Senpai, good luck!
Zachary Murphy
Anti marxist bump
Nathan Wright
bump
Nathaniel Evans
I followed it
Ethan Cruz
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Aaron Morris
Follow the Twitter as a start, and post any ideas you have to kickstart the Minutemen movement in this thread - the Minutemen is going to be the anti-Marxist movement to give some structured opposition in this culture war, which we currently lack outside of Rupert Murdoch.
Luke Gutierrez
The plan at the moment is to get followers to 1-2k from Sup Forums and perhaps the_donald, before trying to get followers by just commenting on a fuck tonne of Twitter posts - white middle-class Trump moms follow just about everything, so once we have enough followers to be visible as comments on posts they see, we should grow very quickly.
Parker Rodriguez
Appreciated brother, hopefully more from Sup Forums will, but at the moment it's looking like less of the mass twitter coordination hive mind that it was during the election campaign - a LOT less.
Christian Russell
Hey what about me faggot
Carson Harris
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Evan Murphy
You didn't thank me :(
Henry Garcia
We should try shutting down leftist facebook pages
David Long
Fine, thanks for following too, enjoy free art
James Jones
Not gonna work, besides that doesnt help our cause. We literally just need to get the twitter page more followers, and once that happens we'll translate our virtual presence into a legitimate movement with the help of our friends at MSM.
Remember papa Trump's main tactic...
Jason Ross
>non-NatSoc
Why
Connor Long
Have some anti marxist images bros.
Landon Cooper
Good luck going mainstream with a NatSoc movement, if you even came close it'd be death by media...
Do you have any ideas about how to get the Twitter more popular, or just how to get the movement off the ground in general? (Also, follow the damn account bro, we're in the midst of a culture war and pol is stuck in this disorganised haze of memes and slide threads (i.e. EVERY Holocaust debate thread, that's a common type)).
Deus vult, brother.
Grayson Baker
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Cameron Thompson
Why do socialists think they will gain anything from taking over the means of production?
Why are they stupid enough to think their personal material wealth will somehow increase when in reality it won't?
This is probably the biggest hole in socialist theories yet hardly anyone here talks about it.
>communist revolution >take every last penny from capitalists >divided up amongst everyone it works out to about $500 per person(yes that little) >go to spend that money >prices increase because no new consumer goods are produced in this situation >workers are in the same exact situation they were the revolution but now the economy is completely destroyed
OR
>communist revolution >every consumer good the capitalists own is split up and given to the workers >it's such an extremely small amount of goods that not even 1% of workers will be able to get any of this
OR
>communist revolution >money is abolished >workers take over the means of production completely >the same exact quantity of consumer goods that was being produced under capitalism are again produced >the working class has to work JUST AS HARD and JUST AS LONG as they did under capitalism to produce the same amount of shit they were previously consuming and this scenario is forgetting about the economic calculation problem and the fact economies like this never work.
Either way you go about this there's no getting "MUH SURPLUS VALUE" back. 99.5% of the consumer goods the working class was producing was already being consumed and owned by the working class, not the capitalists. The capitalists own only extremely small amounts of consumer goods(houses, cars boats, tvs, food, porn, medicine) compared to what the whole working class owns.
Christopher Sanchez
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David Collins
Will that make the Twitter more popular? Ultimately, pol would be the best way to get this off the ground if we all put our minds to it like we did with hashtags during the election, but pol has become lazy.
Do you know any way how we can get pol to mass follow the twitter account? The only alternative to not creating our own counterculture is accepting the liberal's future dreams, or praying to Murdoch!
Samuel Ward
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Kayden Carter
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Chase Flores
Thanks for the effort, but this ain't gonna get the twitter off the ground any time soon - we need pol to wake up and snap into their hive mind mode for that to happen, but how?
Bump this thread if you see this comment, hopefully that'll attract more attention, we really need pols help if the Minutemen are to kick off.
Andrew Wood
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Jackson Brooks
Take this royalist bump, fellow bong
Christian Sanchez
>BAWWWW LATE CAPITALISM
>DA CAPITALIST SYSTEM WILL COLLAPSE
Jack Gutierrez
We need to secure our own territory a bit better though. If you see leftypol threads just spam them with gore. It will make the fat trannies wearing Karl Marx shirts feel uncomfortable.
Landon Cooper
Dude thanks, but we're not gonna get publicity through that, we literally just need mass-follows from pol before we start to comment on every Trump post and get easy follows from Trump moms - thats stage 1 of the master-plan: publicity.
Leo Lee
No, the main priority is boosting the publicity of the primary anti-Marxist movement, which is going to be the Minutemen, so basically we need to get our Twitter off the ground, which requires the lazy fucks here on pol to get on their accounts and FOLLOW IT!
Luis Harris
Recruit the
A L T L I T E L T L I T E
You want the T_D, Milo, Crowder, Gavin, and Cernovich loving, Deploraball-attending MAGAZINE hat wearing fanboys
Jaxon Wilson
Yes I am aware, but we need more followers before they give us a shout-out.
WHICH IS WHAT POL WAS MEANT TO DO, but people are too lazy here - FOLLOW THE FUCKING ACCOUNT!
Colton Price
>but this ain't gonna get the twitter off the ground any time soon Bro I'm telling you,
The only way to get people to not be marxists are the following things:
1) Memes. Really important.
2) Easily accessible arguments against marxism which completely blow it out of the water. Marxism is a very complex ideology. It's totally wrong in a million ways, but it's so complex that marxists have an explanation for everything flawed about their ideology.
It's basically a religion.
What's needed is like an online flowchart or something, showing a debate between a marxist and an anti-marxist, showing their ideology to be retarded. Like the common responses they will have to facts thrown at them. Something like pic related but much much bigger and maybe editable by everyone like wikipedia to improve the arguments. I'm too lazy to make such a thing, but it's possible and would hurt marxism a lot.
Ian Sanchez
leaving this here
Noah Clark
People who would follow this account already aren't Marxists, we just need publicity, pure and simple. Which is where POL WAS MEANT TO FOLLOW twitter.com/theminutemenUSA, but they (and you?) aren't fucking doing it!
Wyatt Lewis
>leaving a turd here But why?
Cooper Scott
Yeah, why can't be organised like that! We're such a disorganised mess, let's bring the fight to those faggots and, if we take off as a movement, MSM itself!
Noah Gray
>twitter.com/theminutemenUSA Honestly this seems like it would have 10k followers max and be followed by the same exact people that follow all the other paleo-conservative/libertarian twitter accounts.
How does this benefit anyone? Simply starting a twitter won't redpill the masses.
Man I wish I worked in marketing, I would probably be a billionaire by now.
You people just don't get it.
Easton Sanders
Why do you follow a bunch of cuckservatives?
>We are a movement of like-minded Americans fighting to protect the Constitution, oppose Leftist culture, and preserve the spirit of true American patriotism. How is this any different than cuckservatism? You are holding on to a dead, failed movement. The alt right has made you irrelevant. Let the real right fight the left.
Jackson Nguyen
I was hoping 50k, but then if we get media coverage through pollacks who are willing to go boots to ground, it could blow up.
If the twitter account blows up, we have (top secret!) plans to turn this into a fully fledged counter-culture, we'll have our own media sources, for instance, a newspaper and website etc. It'll be the political equivalent of a cult, and the whole family will be invited for every member.
But, to start off with, WE NEED PUBLICITY, SO FOLLOW OUR TWITTER DAMN IT!
Dominic Foster
Good luck, most normies think you guys are Nazis, so good luck on going mainstream. Cuckservative is the only mainstream way to go, to avoid death by media...
Josiah Hill
Why don't you just post propaganda anyways on your twitter and reply to any post with normies sick of communism/antifa in the comments, so that they can see that you're a counter to them and they will follow you
Dylan Gutierrez
>If the twitter account blows up, we have (top secret!) plans to turn this into a fully fledged counter-culture, we'll have our own media sources, for instance, a newspaper and website etc. It'll be the political equivalent of a cult, and the whole family will be invited for every member. Would be slightly better but still shit because things like this ALREADY EXIST, you wouldn't be redpilling people, you would be preaching to the choir.
But inferior to my idea of getting it into the mind of the average person that marxism is pseudoscience.
Having unbreakable arguments against ANY marxist argument lined up would be awesome.
Christopher Wright
>Cuckservative is the only mainstream way to go, to avoid death by media... You're a complete fucking retard.
Yeah we'll do shit like that, but to get noticed doing that we need a decent following in the first place, roughly 1-2k should do, which would happen easily if pol put their mind to it.
However, POL HAS BECOME LAZY!
(psst: that means follow the fucking account!)
Luis Morgan
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Matthew Stewart
Beznemov was truly redpilled, we're fighting against the same kind of people he deserted.
So, what can you lazy fucks at pol actually do???
Follow. Le. Twitter account!
Cooper Morgan
Followed Will RT some stuff
Aaron Reed
Cheers, once we reach 200-300 followers we're going to begin tweeting regularly.
you're doing the same shit that everyone fucking does
I'm telling you man
To destroy a marxist you have to understand marxism.
Do you even know what dialectical materialism is? Didn't think so faggot.
I bet you just plan on tweeting out communist death statistics. Commies refute them anyway and won't believe you.
Brandon Howard
>1 post by this ID
Also, friendly reminder to follow the twitter (.com/theminutemenUSA)
Evan Fisher
>I enjoy being cucked by the state and rich people
lol socialists enjoy being poor
capitalists enjoy being switzerland
Jacob Hughes
It's not, but whatever. Besides, the entire movement can't be about anti-Marxism, it has to be pro- things too.
James Bennett
Yea you are definitely behind the times on this one, cuckservatism is on the way out.
Blake Bennett
We're going to be further right than, say, McCain, we're going to be basically in line with Trump - no NatSoc though! The media would slaughter us...
Alexander Reed
>name your thread "anti-marxism" >Besides, the entire movement can't be about anti-Marxism kek
Commies will destroy you because you have no ammunition.
Anyway if you want PRO things, you should be PRO Free Banking and abolishing central banks. You should be pro deflation so that average people can have extremely high living standards and low prices.
Eli Hughes
Err, that still makes sense if the thing we support is something Marxists do not...
Cameron Adams
To be Communist is to wish death amongst your own people and livelihoods for a "great cause".
Zachary Phillips
Dude, how the fuck are we going to ever have enough influence by LARPing on about the Fed!
Levi Fisher
Is this a libertarian movement?
Cooper Long
>Yea you are definitely behind the times on this one, cuckservatism is on the way out. Basically this.
If you plan on just having another cuckservative paleo-conservative/libertarian blog it will end up doing nothing.
Sorry to burst your bubble but you are going to have to rethink this.
How are you going to appeal to the millennial generation? You can't.
Nolan Garcia
Agreed, and that unfortunately seems to be our future unless we make a stand culturally.
Brandon Flores
Sorta, sorta not. We basically believe everything Trump does, but Gadsden is the best flag as not only does it sure our Constitutionalism but its also very hard to smear as Nazi
Lincoln Flores
Following. Keep up the good work. We need to implement anti-communism into right wing ideology: This should be mission number one.
Consider making a Facebook page.
Owen Edwards
Because if the fed was abolished within 5 years time, americans would have the highest living standards in the world.
Ryan Gray
So it's antima now?
Xavier Nguyen
>anti-Marxism >counteracting revolutionary socialism and communism But... they're not the same.
Ryder Garcia
Nah, twitter is the way to go 100%, facebook will do nothing. We just need pol to get behind us and boost us up so we get noticed more by normies, but pol is letting me down in this respect :(
Asher Morris
This is why communism will win.
Sorry guys, you'll never learn.
Owen Cruz
Ivan, just follow the account, it's our best shot at maintaing a cultural influence (in the USA) to prevent cultural marxism
Jonathan Nguyen
Ergo, post communist memes?
David Morris
Hey thanks, got anymore? I want to bully some antifa
Zachary Hall
Your ignorance is literally turning me into a marxist-leninist.
I was a free market nationalist 20 minutes ago.
Asher Phillips
>Canadian >nationalist
Chase Turner
So what's the purpose of this group? Are you going to contest in elections? Because I don't see the purpose of yet another club or think tank that talks about intellectual matters but doesn't actually get anywhere
Grayson Jones
kek
Cameron Thompson
I want north america to balkanize into ethnic and ideological states.
Probably the most reasonable and PEACEFUL ideology on earth right now.
Levi Phillips
Reminder that whatever you do, keep yourself presentable in traditional clothes with traditional hair.
No fucking piercings or Tattoos or hair dye.
Lead by example, Neo-Nazis look like fucking degenerates.
Hudson Mitchell
Nooo, we're just going to be our own little counterculture, if things go well we'll have our own media source, meetups etc. - the overall aim of the movement is to delegitimise MSM, and create our own media, basically, to limit their influence in whatever ulterior motives they have.
Christian Price
>look like richard spencer isnt he a cuck now?
Jonathan Evans
We dont have any public figureheads yet and wont for a long time lol stop sliding
Parker Long
>the overall aim of the movement is to delegitimise MSM >he thinks he can go against the jews >he thinks his little side project will materialize into anything of value lmao
Jackson Mitchell
We can do, if once we become a counterculture we use a little tactic called fun. Worked well for Goebbels, not that we're going to be a NatSoc movement.
Elijah Thomas
>if once we become a counterculture You have no ideas.
It's like you're saying: >guise I will become the next twitter, twitter with music files sharing lol XD
Watch Sam Hyde's kickstarter TV and it will show you what a faggot you are.
Xavier James
If you fucks here get the twitter account going, I'm 80% confident we can organise ourselves to be a counterculture, this stage here (getting publicity online) will be the hardest. So I'm confident we'll have our own newspapers, our own media sources, our own events etc., but thats different to becoming the dominant culture. I dont think we can become the dominant culture, but if this kicks off we can creep into the swing states and keep them solidly republican (I have a great plan, and Im pretty ambitious about this whole movement, so bloody follow the twitter)
Brandon Cook
always a pleasure
Jordan Nguyen
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Levi Bennett
Trying to delegitimization msm is a pretty bold goal We don't have funding for something like that, and unless you want to start an infowars style radio broadcast Twitter memes aren't gonna convince many people
William Torres
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Daniel Sanchez
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Aaron Butler
I know see you're a slider. Also, we do have ideas, but Im keeping them to myself until all the competition fades away (there are competing groups atm)
Also, look who just followed us - could be of use given his follower count (although he does follow a fuck-tonne of people, but still...)
