>The history of the development of the Republican alternative to Obamacare since the beginning of the health-care debate, in 2009, has been an endless loop of loud promises that a full plan will be announced soon, followed by quiet admissions that it will not. Seventeen days ago, Donald Trump promised a vote to repeal the law “probably some time next week” with a vote for a replacement “very quickly or simultaneously, very shortly thereafter.” At a meeting in Philadelphia yesterday, Trump and his House Republican allies produced no agreement on a plan. If there is a consensus, it is that there will be no replacement plan at all.
>Representative Greg Walden, a key leader of the House Republican efforts on health care, tells Julie Rovner, “There’s no single fix. There’s no single plan.” Representative Marsha Blackburn touted bills to limit medical malpractice lawsuits and to allow the sale of state-regulated insurance across state lines. Neither of these proposals would have any significant impact on insurance coverage. If Obamacare is repealed, this would leave the individual-health-insurance market a smoldering crater.
>Republicans are portraying the lack of a plan as a philosophical aversion to lengthy legislation. “If you’re waiting for another 2,700-page bill to emerge, you’re going to have to wait until the sun doesn’t come up, because that’s not how we’re going to do it,” says Walden. You may not need 2,700 pages of legislative text. But you can’t blow up the health-care system and replace it with a series of piecemeal measures. Any real plan to provide even crappy coverage — let alone the better, more affordable coverage Trump has repeatedly promised — is going to need to be paid for. Making those trade-offs means figuring out some big-picture strategy for where the money will come from.
They better replace it or else they've lost both 2018 and 2020.
Elijah Price
There will be a replacement plan. The "Just go ahead and die on the sidewalk" plan.
Aiden Campbell
Will they? Healthcare is important but i can't imagine many people being affected who aren't already voting against them
Blake Flores
I don't think you have much of an idea how many Republican voters are actually dependent on the ACA ("but not that darn Obamacare").
Ethan Scott
Oh look, a bunch of CRT/CREW in a thread circle jerking each other. Sage.
Carter Hernandez
Oh boy...
Lincoln Taylor
So of there is no replacement what does that mean?
No health insurance at all? Why not use Rands plan, it was pretty solid and really not much different than Obama care.
Wyatt Miller
This looks like it is going to be an absolute DISASTER. :(
Michael Gray
oh no, you mean it'll be like before obamacare but with lower taxes? Say it ain't so
Camden Morris
You underestimate the stupidity of right wing white trash.
Chase Carter
Well if the health insurances consider you a loss they will simply kick you out and thats it.
Jose Hall
Good. Why replace it with something similarly crappy?
Xavier Garcia
Also what is there to be sad about. Dont tell me you poor niggers have to rely on ACA. Why is this such a suprise ?
Dude makes things easier for the middle class. Premiums will go down. Thats great no ?
Brody Cooper
>say it's gonna take a while "there won't be any replacement" ok
Carter Harris
>nymag.com I am not reading your post OP. I am not reading this thread.
your source is irrelevent and anyone giving it clicks is doing a disservice to trump, america and Sup Forums
Jayden Richardson
Preexisting condition.
Jason Scott
>pass law called the Affordable Care Act >it provides nothing itself >enables insurance companies to fuck everyone >HURR YOU NEED THIS LAW TO LIVE GOYIM
Camden Cooper
>If Obamacare is repealed, this would leave the individual-health-insurance market a smoldering crater.
>its already a smoldering crater
who are they trying to trick here?
Christopher Brooks
Oh no. So sad :'(
Lucas Taylor
>Republicans are portraying the lack of a plan as a philosophical aversion to lengthy legislation. "It's not a plan because we said so!"
Individual short bills on individual measures has been the suggested correction to this for the past 4 years.
Omnibus bills don't get debated in detail and are prime targets for added pork. If the bills are kept short and narrow in focus they can be voted on more quickly with less confusion.
Fuck this article.
Dominic Baker
Proofs? Face berg caps do not suffice
Juan Morris
and if they dont we get boogie so what is your solution
Adrian Phillips
I get the guy is dumb because he doesn't realize they are the same thing but I really hate this shit: >you think he will respond? >fuck no what a loser can't believe he didn't delete this It's the same as a bully saying >ah is he going to cry now? >what a loser The tolerant left who LOVES to be seen as nonviolent and educated. Fuck I hate them.
Ethan Hernandez
Are you saying Hillary will win the 2020 election?
Henry Morales
This
>“There’s no single fix. There’s no single plan.” This means there will be several short bills to address the problem.
This is GOOD because if something doesn't work, you don't have to keep it. Gigantic bills like Obamacare are too big to be policed, get filled with pork and attachments unrelated to the issue, and are easy as fuck to corrupt.
Short
Nathan Rogers
>gop quietly admits >quietly when did it become acceptable in journalism to add judgement in the fucking headline of all places. Can't it just say >gop admits there will be... isn't that accurate? saying "quietly" is the author injecting their own opinion on the action. just report the fucking story.
Well there is really nothing you can do about it. Start saving. I hope you did not vote for Trump tho this would have been retarded.
Luis Lewis
>journalism is not what that is. it's blog posting. there is no such thing as major/mainstream journalism. only blog posting from no talent hacks who think their feelings > facts.
Adam Hernandez
the ONLY thing that is needed and the only thing that will drop the ACTUAL COST of healtcare is to enforce existing USC 15 code, Robinson-Patman act etc against the entire industry
Medical monopolies are why Health Care has gone from 5% of GDP to 20% of GDP
Stop thinking about "who will pay/am I covered?" and start thinking about "Why does this cost so much?"
And in this act he proposes to end Anti-Trust enforcement against the industry. SCAM.
the ONLY thing that is needed and the only thing that will drop the ACTUAL COST of healtcare is to enforce existing USC 15 code, Robinson-Patman act etc against the entire industry
Medical monopolies are why Health Care has gone from 5% of GDP to 20% of GDP
Stop thinking about "who will pay/am I covered?" and start thinking about "Why does this cost so much?"
Megacorps are not the answer to the problem, megacorps are the problem
Jacob Nelson
>mfw Canada
Aaron Morris
Yes there fucking is, just make the Affordable Care Act a charity-based System so the liberals who want the dindus and retards to live have to pay for it themselves since they're so "tolerant"
FUCK
Adrian Smith
The replacement is likely to be keeping the removal of pre-existing conditions and maybe a limited tax write off for health insurance. He my also offer states the right to keep the program going for their state, at their own expense and maintenance of course.
No hope there. He is only making an effort because his state is full of piss-poor drug-addled peasants. Hundreds of thousands of them only had access to healthcare because of Obamacare.
Kevin Sanders
That can't be true, this post isn't in Mandarin
Camden Collins
Partisan bullshit aside, what could be done to make Obama care better without skyrocketing costs or taxes for small business and the Middle class?
Noah Brooks
Why are these faggot reporters allowed to straight up lie about this shit? You can see in the very same article that there will be replacement.
Angel Russell
This, desu.
They need a replacement in two years, or they'll lose seats everywhere.
Joshua Reed
>PLEASE READ MY BLOG
Evan Thomas
The republicans gain full control of the government, the ball is in their court and what do they do? Piss themselves
You literally cannot make this shit up
Nolan Nelson
Obama is the devil according to Alex Jones. He smells of roasted watermelons.
Dylan Walker
It's been a week...
Dylan Torres
>NYmag >whole bunch of opinions >by Jonathan (((((Chait)))))
Camden Taylor
They should have had a plan ready to go. They have had 6 years.
Adrian Hughes
You're telling me the past 6 years of republican congressional control they couldn't draft a legitimate replacement to Obamacare?
The more his draws on the more I realize obama was playing multi dinensional chess
Ethan Fisher
I can't handle all this winning. I had already given up on a free market healthcare solution. Dog bless you Mr president.
Ian Martin
The only way the republicans can give us a better option is with single payer, which would be both hilarious and ironic
Nathan Smith
>There’s no single fix. There’s no single plan
What? Is the writer of this article retarded or just disingenuous? That doesn't mean their is NO plan that means they're working on MULTIPLE plans!
Aaron Cooper
That's code m8. There's no timeline given. It will just get put off continually. Then dems take control.
Dominic Cox
I think it's possible.
Jackson Sullivan
Multiple Republicans have proposed plans.
Shit argument.
Kayden Gonzalez
Not mine, faggot. The only guy with the solution
Enjoy getting buttfucked
Liam Foster
Then you must be an idiot because she isn't going to run.
Nolan Wood
Proposed plans doesn't mean they are legitimate replacements
Most of those proposed plans are free market bullshit, republicans are never going to pass a plan like that because of the blowback of the uninsured
Camden James
Republicans were the one that came up with Obamacare originally in the 90's as a response to Hillary's universal healthcare program.
Wyatt Gonzalez
Insurance is a large part of the problem, being that its not insurance at all.
Sebastian Taylor
>Faggot gets hurt and goes to the hospital >Nurse finishes giving him meds through needle >Slips and accidentally sticks herself >Gets aids
>cop arrests junky with aids >junky forgets he has needle when cop asks before the patdown >cop gets stuck with needle > gets aids
It happens so fuck you. Innocent people need help too.
Justin Lee
86% of the beneficiaries of the ACA are mostly red state white people
Hunter Wood
How many republican congressmen and senators are in the pockets of the insurance companies?
Hudson Cook
A lot of both republican and democrats are in the pocket of insurance companies
Cameron Perry
>dead niggers and drug addict trash
Who cares? Libshits get Medicaid in their states anyway. Degenerates in the south die. What's not to love?
James Thomas
>"there are multiple plans right now" >this means there is no plan >and we can say this because we put the word "quietly" in there, which lets us get away with publishing straight up lies
Luke James
>being this edgy
Top it til you can't feel it.
Andrew Davis
If for some reason she ran she wouldn't make it through the primaries.
Ian Kelly
>people who willingly put lethal shit in their bodies or eat like shit should get their health care paid for by healthy taxpayers
Nope. Why should my money go to a drug addict obese fuck to pay for his diabetes meds? He's the one who got hooked on painkillers and ordered supersize at McD's every day.
Bentley Perez
Why would I love people dying?
Justin Price
>have announced 50 plans over that period
HURR DURR NO PLANS
Nymag is The Globe tier garbage.
William Bennett
Universal health care cannot work in the United States, a country of 350 million people where a large percentage of the population are fat and stupid and depend on the government. What works in a tiny little homogeneous state of 10 million people or a country like Canada of only 30 million people (roughly the population of California) would not work here.
I say leave health care funding to the states. Keep feds out of health care and everything else.
Joshua Powell
I don't know desu. But I'm sure it's easier to address issues instead of starting all over again. Obama care is based on Romney's plan and other Republican ideas anyway.
Hudson Gutierrez
Saged
Noah Young
99% of them
Adrian Sullivan
sage
Grayson Flores
lol they weren't written as proper legislation that was ready to go on day one. And they can't even agree on what they want. They had 6 years to sort it out.
Thomas Price
Good. When should I file my taxes?
Hudson Campbell
She's determined as fuck. You have to give her that at least.
Cooper Bell
>nymag fake news
Xavier Scott
Trailer trash obese fucks who are addicted to opiods and watch NASCAR all day.
Again, who cares?
Julian Morgan
It hasn't even been attempted!
Leaving it to the states will turn out just the way we expect it to. Blue states like California and Colorado will adopt statewide universal healthcare, the less financially fortunate will get treated and enjoy a higher standard of living -- red states like Alabama and Arkansas will just adopt a "screw them and let them die" policy and poor people in those states will suffer accordingly, their HDI will plummet even further.
Jonathan Howard
>You may not need 2,700 pages of legislative text. But you can’t blow up the health-care system and replace it with a series of piecemeal measures. Any real plan to provide even crappy coverage strange, why is the author of a news article writing their opinion?
