Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To acheive such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
Why do you think communism has been reached? so far only socialist states.
Julian Price
Okay, let me rephrase. Why does socialism fail each time it is tried?
Kevin Cox
What a load of shite.
Brody Hill
wew red can't wait to be part of the next batch of 10 million dead just so you all can go "whoops wasn't real communism who's ready to try again"
Zachary Hill
Same fag makes same thread 1000 times a day kill yourself already commie bastard
Grayson Price
Funny enough I only ever see people from countries who haven't been trough it still praise it.
Ryder Garcia
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Tyler Scott
Don't you mean 100 million
Andrew Nelson
Aye pal
Liam Morgan
>Why do you think communism has been reached? He never stated this, learn to read.
Nicholas Gray
Which did you prefer? Ottoman rule? or socialism? >inb4 capitalism made me a rich Haralampiev
David Harris
Daily reminder that communism is trash!
Asher Bailey
he doesn't answer? what a surprise!
Ayden Lopez
Not an argument
Brandon Brooks
how does communism help keep poor uneducated people in check ?
Adam Richardson
Wasn't an argument, just stating facts.
Daniel Richardson
Why does socialism fail each time it is tried?
Isaiah Morris
The crisis of Soviet socialism appears to stem from two sources. On the one hand there is popular revulsion against the undemocratic and authoritarian practices of old-style Soviet politics, and on the other hand there is a widespread sense that the basic economic mechanisms in operation since the 1930s have outlived their usefulness, and that to retain these mechanisms would condemn the peoples of the (erstwhile) USSR to stagnant standards of living and chronic shortages of consumer goods. Compared with the evident continuing vitality of the advanced capitalist economies, such conditions became increasingly intolerable to the people. To some extent these two issues are linked. As the USSR moved from the era of Stalin to that of Brezhnev, the earlier system of terror and compulsion was mitigated. At the same time, however, the pioneering spirit that had animated broad layers of the Soviet population during the early years of socialist construction, and also during the resistance to fascism, eroded. In other words, both pillars of the Soviet mode of extraction of a surplus product (in a planned yet undemocratic system) were undermined.
Lincoln Hall
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Caleb Cox
I will actually answer seriously, despite the fact that you are either an idiot or a shill.
Ottoman rule had several big pluses.In a way it was by far more liberal. 1. Private property(and businesses) was allowed to some extent 2. Rebellions were not banned. 3. You could leave without being shot at the border.
Communism was what you perceive as facism. That is because people are not equal and don't want to be. Hence, once they got to be the ruling elite that they hated - they became it. youtube.com/watch?v=Su-3wu0gjcg
It's people's nature to be greedy. The best way to regulate greed is capitalism. Communism is unregulated greed, where those who have less are allowed to kill those who have more.
Furthermore you can't isolate yourself from the capitalist world, unless you have all needed resources to sustain yourself. And there is, by today's standards, no such country. Every single place on earth needs some kind of import, that means trade, that means capitalism.
James Rivera
China is socialist (with state controlled business capitalism) and is doing pretty well by what you would call 'not failing', North Korea is pretty comfy country according to their own citizens and tourists, then you have Venezuela which haven't even nationalized all of the means of productions doing badly, Cuba doing much better than the rest of south america.
Nolan Butler
While the text wall is nice and all you still have yet to answer for why communism and socialism have failed everytime they are implemented.
Joshua Cruz
Gulag.
Eli Bennett
Please read it because is an analysis on why the soviet union failed from a book called 'new socialism' that I'm reading.
Lucas Torres
> Cuba doing much better
Are you serious?
> North Korea is pretty comfy according to their citizens
Yeah, I daresay you couldn't say otherwise!
Noah Collins
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Samuel Martinez
Can we finally nuke spain?
Chase Harris
Except they haven't. See China and Vietnam as success stories.
Ian Allen
Government is holding the public companies that are all with loses. The only chinese comanies that are generating profit are the private companies.
Joshua Morales
Why do you make this silly thread on a red-pilled board everyday? You're not going to convert anyone back to
>"dude weed, socialism, che guevara is so cool"
fucking saged
Cooper Wilson
I correct myself, the USSR did not fail, it was actually a marxist system that lasted decades but it ultimately collapsed by internal political bad decision and external pressures, is not a failure.
Aaron Hill
This too, how can anyone call Vietnam a failure ? and when they say failure what do they actually mean?
Christopher Turner
>China is socialist
I think you need to go back to leftypol and learn what socialism is. Most of them will tell you that China in it's current form is a state capitalist country. That is, unless you think the absence of child labor laws and the presence of sweatshops are aspects of socialism.
Angel Morgan
Here's a red-pill for you commie faggots.
remember to sage
Austin Parker
Comrade Papa Stalin ^^
Hunter Barnes
50 years of Communism has brought Lithuania only alcoholism, shitty goods, deportations to gulags, theft from village folk, destruction of language and culture, lack of necessary goods, brainwashing of people, torture, non-existence of free speech and such. What makes you think that your form of socialism or communism is best?
>But goy USSR didn't achieve full Communism.
It is because true communism is a meme and it is impossible to achieve and it won't be achieved just like USSR they told us in X years just wait it never happened and no country came close.
>But goy USSR was evil n sheit
Every socialist/Communist country turns in to a one party or individual dictatorship and every and all former or current countries are like this
>But goy what about the achievements of Communist/socialist countries
Death from hunger, gulags, death squads is worth less than sending a dog in to space and fucking up the entire world *sarcasm*
Gtfo Commushits you are hated everywhere for your crimes against humanity. I will make sure to strangle you fucks with a Soviet made belt so you can feel the true power of the proletariat for what you have done to mine and many others countries. Traitors of humanity.
Wyatt Wright
This. Cucktalists will never understand this
Matthew Bailey
>internal political bad decision
Such as communism
> be gigantic empire since the modern era > decide you want to be communist > kill tzar and family > become ultrarich while still pretending to be communist > kill tens of millions because they disagree > starve entire population except for you and your friends > dissolve in fifty years > not fail
It's a bad idea, let's be done with it jesus
Thomas Thomas
thanks to capitalism China and Vietnam are growing. They had to make capitalism because they wanted to get their country off the ground of poverty
Anthony Gomez
State capitalist one party dictatorship. Chinks are smart they know Communism is a meme and it's only purpose is to keep the average chink in factory and that he behaves like a good goy.
Leo Powell
>The best way to regulate greed is capitalism. >regulate greed >capitalism
lulz
Jason Clark
you can literally replace lithuania with any other communist country and this will still be valid if anyone really still thinks that communism could work please consider killing yourself or i will do it because i don't want another round of this bullshit
If you decided to troll a far-right board with Marxism, you could at least post some communist Pepes.
Chase Brown
Do you use a discord to organize these raids?
Grayson Gutierrez
Are you sure your culture is not just crap comrade and that's why it was so hard for the soviets to deal with you?
Kevin Cruz
>that image you forgot that part where they raped women, killed people for no reason at all, destroyed entire cities and stole almost all food from us also you could just get killed for insulting that manlet stalin
Grayson Flores
reporting in
Matthew Turner
first of all >raid lolwut.jpg what do you think that anarchists don't hang out on Sup Forums?
I was loling at the shia threads and saw this and came to support my lolcomrades.
Dominic Miller
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Justin King
>da joos Not an argument
Luke Jones
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Isaac Murphy
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Chase Evans
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Lincoln Reed
poor bastard is this all you do all day thank god we cucked you in handball
Ryan Bailey
>it isn't a failure >it just ultimately collapsed is all lol
Owen Foster
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Christian Richardson
Your dad is a failure he died
Jordan Wood
Communism never works.
Owen Foster
I know who is the spanishitlord who is forcing this shit, should i reveal his ID???
