Trump's Stealth Health Plan Could Be 'Medicare For All'

forbes.com/sites/johnwasik/2017/01/20/trumps-stealth-health-plan-could-be-medicare-for-all/

>Donald Trump may have a stealth health plan that would be a surprise to millions: It's called "Medicare for All. (MFA)"

>He's not uttered these words and his party hasn't either -- and isn't likely to champion. The GOP has long sought the destruction of the Affordable Care Act and privatization of Medicare and Social Security.

>But Trump's rhetoric has suggested Medicare for All and he could follow through and solve a basket of problems in one fell swoop. If he proposes such a plan, it would not only be a shocker, it would push a progressive solution to health care that has floated around for decades.

>First, a little background. The premise of MFA is that everyone outside of corporate and government health plans would be automatically covered. There would be no state marketplaces, no provider networks and no draconian deductibles. You wouldn't have to apply and choose a plan based on premiums. Access would be a non-issue.

>The Medicare system at present has four parts covering hospitals, medical services, an optional managed care and prescription drugs. You pay modest premiums for each component and can supplement out-of-pocket costs through private "supplement" or "Medigap" policies.

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PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

If he does this, I will literally jump up and down in joy.

yfw the Donald Doctrine is real

If he does this, he's already won 2020. Even liberals will dance in the streets for this.

MFA?
MotherFuckingAmerica?
Intended?

this would be p cool but are the republicans gonna go along with it or what

this. holy shit. the media will be wiping the shit off of their faces for YEARS

I wonder what is the sauce...

Can somebody explain this to me? What are the costs of such a system?

I simply pay $10/wk for health insurance from owrk

I like the plan that lets the poorfags die.

What's this mean, Amerifags will have a real healthcare for the first time in history?

I don't because

>be poor fag
>can't afford routine appointments
>have to get a root canal instead of a basic filling
>taxpayers pay the difference

It ends up being worse

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People who aren't retarded already know that every citizen in the country already gets medicare and they also know it's so shit that you still need to buy supplemental insurance to cover what it doesn't pay for, which is almost everything.

Plus, this is Forbes, they haven't been right about anything Trump was going to do since he announced his campaign and the retards jumping on this just because Trump's name "might" be attached this should kill themselves

Pretty much, yeah. We'll go from having the worst healthcare system in the developed world to the best overnight.

People like Medicare, but right now it only covers old people and poor people. Everyone else gets raped by insurance companies month after month and then when you need medical services the insurance companies don't pay.

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this

Earlier on Forbes: Medicare Will Go Broke in 2016

forbes.com/sites/aroy/2012/04/23/trustees-medicare-will-go-broke-in-2016-if-you-exclude-obamacares-double-counting/#6c64fc6f548b

how do you pay for it... if higher taxes then go fuck yourself

mexico will pay for it

In germany everyone pays roughly 15% of his income for universal healthcare.

mexico and china plus legal pot

MUH DICK

you're wrong, i asked one the other day on a what if scenario "if he comes up with a better healthcare plan than aca" they said it wouldnt matter, that one good deed wouldnt make a difference. It will never end people, you have to realize that by now.

There's enough non-hardcore Hillary or Johnson voters who'd vote for him if Trump did.

Literally National Socialism

Oh the hardcore libs will keep bitching, thats guaranteed, but everyone else, 95% of America will love him.

And it's generally shit.

Should have brushed and flossed your teeth. Anyone without the intelligence to manage that should perish.

If he does this he'll be re-elected in 2020.

Bernie would praise him *again* and a lot of libcucks would realize that Trump isn't all the things that CNN says about him.

He will be reelected either way. Republicans controlling both Michigan and Wisconsin does definitely help.

>may have
>may
Know yer fucken place, TRASH!

I work in healthcare. Make no mistake, Medicare is an excellent model for how coverage could be provided for everyone without turning into a socialist shithole. It is ironically one of the few examples where a government program is far more efficient than its private counterparts, and if you knew how much of your doctor's workweek was spent dealing with bureaucratic nonsense thanks to private insurers, it would come as no surprise why our healthcare system runs like a constipated walrus.

I would die a happy man if I could see the insurance industry brought to its fucking knees by a move like this. The amount of administrative bloat is truly unreal and absolutely unsustainable.

this

i'm a liberal and i'll be fucking thrilled if trump does this

>medicare is good
>socialism is shit

This is why everyone thinks Republicans are fucking retarded.

This is a Nat Soc board

You can have social safety nets without abolishing private property and entrepreneurship. The best of both worlds.

Nice argument, sport. Talk to a doctor from Venezuela and ask them what real socialism is like.

It does the job, no one dies because he didn't got his operation.
The public healthcare is just managed shitty.
It could be a great thing, e.g. covering the costs that happen to be related with alcohol or tobacco with higher taxes for these products.
Same goes with adipositas.
If you try to get the money for these treatments in other places alot of the "normal" people will pay less for their healthcare.

>republicans passing Medicare For All or any type of Universal Healthcare

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

He is going to bankrupt you into insolvency and destroy your "country". There will be no replacement. Who the fuck would vote for that. No publiv option! Gimme dirty communist grumpfocare

Cut taxes and increase spending on everything. The Drumpf way!

>literally so upset that he can't properly type out his shitposts
That's it.

Im going to the store.

I need a rake.

Waiting up to 6 hours in a hospital waiting room after a serious injury is not something I would call a good healthcare system.

Bernie voting liberal here. I admit, if Trump did this, my stance on him would change pretty much instantly from pure hatred to pure confusion.

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nice fake news faggot, none of the RINO's would vote for socialist healthcare and some dems wont either just out of hate for trump.

with MFA you could get yearly;

>1 free teeth cleaning
>minor cavity repair
>wisdom tooth removal
>1 eye checkup
>frames and lenses from a wide selection of birth control products
>1 physical
>any work the doctor recommends as a result of the checkup
>vaccines

I am a Democrat and I hate Trump, but people who say shit like this are retarded.

For starters, the US is never going to be unable to service our debts, short of society collapsing, at which point it won't matter.

Secondly, if somehow we ever actually got to that point, the banks who own most of that debt (foreign nations own a small portion of our debt, most is owned by banks and private citizens) will forgive it. To allow us to go insolvent, destroy our credit, etc., would destroy the global economy. It is no one's interest to have that happen, even if they don't get their money back.

That would be fucking amazing. Obongo couldn't even do that.

Sounds expensive, but if he can do it without raising taxes I'm pretty down

Like a Boss

$20 trillion, $29 trillion, what's the difference? I say we shop till we drop!

Healthcare used to be 5% of GDP here, when it was a legitimate market

This would all but ensure it stays well above that, and entrenches expensive healthcare forever.

The real solution would be to enforce anti-Trust and monopoly laws against the health care industry. But it appears even Trump doesnt have the balls to do that

Sounds like you need a quick rundown.

I bet if we cut our military spending we could easily service our debts

Oh also, fat people should pay a larger tax if they want this. They're the reason Medicare is a burden

The costs escalate over time. Particularly with an ageing population.

Don't do it.

People who complain that Americans can't afford healthcare think that other people should pay for their healthcare AND a massive bureaucracy to administer it.

That's his specialty apparently.

Good. Cheap. Fast
Choose two

theyll never go back and admit they got duped by the media. theyre still living in the matrix. theyll try to poke holes in it, it will NEVER get a positive spin by the media.

In Germany we can choose 0 out of 3.

> I just wanna put some vanilla on top of that chocolate

MUH

i am an actually republican (not one of those "voted for obama in 2008/12, discovered Sup Forums, and voted for Trump to be edgy retards you see on this board daily), and I think universal healthcare is retarded. Fortunately congress will block it.

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>Medicare for all

Sounds like what we have.

No reason the US couldn't get it, and it'd shut up the left.

Private is better, of course.

ive seen medicare for all written on women's march protesters signs.. IRONIC

SHADILAY!!!!!

couple this with citizen only voter ID for access and the glorious new era is upon us.

I didn't called it good. This 6 hours must be an extreme case, I've never heard of something like this and my dad workes for nearly 40 years in public healthcare.
If someone got a serious injury he is treated right away, but I don't know what you classify under serious.

Private insurance is the same thing only significantly less bargaining power, significantly more overhead in the form of redundant bureaucracy for each company, and the added detriment of needing to turn a profit.

is that the "hottest girl" in helsinki?

Bone sticking out of your arm? Happened to me.

Man I hope he does this

Trying to outlet the left will only end with the biggest socialist winning the next election, you can't alienate and demotivate right wingers.

They would spin it as unsustainable, expensive, and a disaster racist system

Dat 30% reimbursement rate though

If it could be made competitive, sure why not?

I hated the way the ACA subsidized insurance monopolies and forced mandatory consumerism down our throat.

This, desu.

Trump is the Muhammad Ali of politics - you don't know what side he's gonna come from next - could be left, could be right, could come right up the middle - all you know is it's gonna be brutal and knock everyone for a loop.

>Anyone without the intelligence to manage that should perish
when can the gas the undesirables meme go away

you guys will never get away with it.. NEVER

>I bet if we cut our military spending we could easily service our debts

Why is it that every retard always brings up the military budget and wants to slash that as if it's always the largest portion of the budget? Healthcare/medicare spending amounts to about 50% of the total budget every year, while the military is usually 1round 16-18%. It has the highest amount of discretionary spending, but retards always parade that number around without looking at the actual total budget.

and you waited for 6 hours?
east or west?

We don't get Medicare you retarded piece of shit, we get tricare and it's absolute shit which is why I hate Bernie Sanders autistic screeching for universal healthcare because I've been on the receiving end of his autism and I know it's shit. The fact that he keeps insisting it's "cheaper" than paying for private insurance is another reason why i hate him. And all of these retards who blame insurance companies but not the government and it's bloated laws a guidelines it forces the companies and hospitals to follow but still think the problem are the companies need to kill themselves. We have the best quality of care for a reason and part of it is because it's mostly privatized and free of bureaucrat autism

The insurance company assassination squads are being assembled as we speak.

I don't know how this would happen. I don't think people realize the full economic ramifications of shuttering or drastically downsizing the largest health insurers all at once.

Confusion is the first step on the road towards secret lust, user.

West.

Population isn't upside down once the boomers are dead.

medicare isnt retarded. humans make up the work force, if you give them medical care with subsidies you strengthen the economy long term. republicans dont realise that citizens are the labour force so you kind of have to make sure you dont let the health of your citizens deteriorate. health is a government matter

FLOAT LIKE A BUTTERFLY

You are all Bernie Cucks.
Pic related

>implying those who work at the health insurance companies are quality people worth saving.

Have you not learned? You can't deal with these people - if you give them an inch they take a mile. Once they think of you as a nazi, an unredeemable creature or whatever, they never change their mind.

This will also guarantee a 2nd and 3rd term, maybe 4th

Brittney white

You underestimate white people.

>medicare isnt retarded
mate

Health insurance =/= healthcare, you can get one without the other. The fact that you retards continue to correlate the two shows me how little you retards actually research your talking points before voicing them

ffs this shouldn't happen, you wait 6 hours in cuba but not in germany. Well something like this never happened when my father had duty, I think it depends on the staff.

my mom already confirmed she would and shes a self described socialist

Fucking awesome. I'm all for this.