Socialist here - Trump is doing OK

Trump is doing a pretty good job. He's the most pro-worker president we've had thus far.
>got rid of TPP
>tariffs on foreign goods
>removing illegals who are inflating the labor market.

lol dude you sound like such a homo

trump fucking cucked you...enjoy paying for the wall :3

I have no problem with that. Illegals inflate the labor market which lowers wages for the national proletariat.

Not to mention, I'm not a partisan faggot like most of Sup Forums and /leftypol/ I judge a man on his actions, not on which team he's on. (republican/democrat.)

Bamp. Notice me Sup Forums-senpai.

At least your head is screwed on tight regarding local economics
Now to fix that psychology/ human nature of yours

Real socialists are pretty cool once you get to know us user. 99% of modern """"""""socialists""""""""" are really just liberals who care more about spics then the actual working class.

Lying zionist rat bastard here

Implying I support the imperialist state of Israel.
Why does everything have to be a conspiracy with you faggots? You're as bad as /leftypol/. You think everyone is a kike, just as /leftypol/ thinks everyone is a Sup Forumsack/. Can't you take someone at face value?

That's fine. we can have open debate on your specific views another time, but open dialogue and an end to suppressive globalism should be the primary goal, because otherwise we can't have those discussions.

libertarian/conservative mix here

Agreed.

I never get repeating numbers, why have you forsaken me, Kek? I shitpost for you every day, on and off Sup Forums.

Socialists do not like this zionist fuck. That makes you a lying zionist like this whole shilly shitty broke ass armageddon board

>retardation the comment
I don't support the fact that he supports Israel but he's actually done some good for the working class despite the fact that he's bourgeois himself.

You cannot support zionists and simultaneously Christian working class

he's not mexican
what's your point

The working class is the working class. There is no "christian working class" There's only the proletariat and the bourgeois.

>what is nuance

I'm as anti socialist as they get but let's not get autistic lads. you can not like Israel and still praise the merits and actions of what trump has done for working Americans and American business/jobs

I think it's too early to tell but yeah it looks like a good start.

kek

nice shilling

Aren't socialists supposed to have a unifying global world view? Like one that transcends borders?

I don't care about what he's done for "American business" but he's been fairly good for the working class as a whole.
Not everything is a conspiracy faggot.

I believe that's communism. I don't think OP specified if he's full on socialist or simply supports socialist policies of redistributing and high taxes on wealth etc

I'm not an international socialist. I've been banned from /leftypol/ about 5 times now because of that fact. With that said, I'm a national syndicalist.

I can understand that perspective.

This isn't really a political philosophy thread so I'm not bothered about butting heads over it

which department should i make the check out to?

>hurr durr only marxism is true socialism

t. marx

Please kill yourself

So are you more of a civic nationalistic socialist?

no youre not allowed to flip this into something you guys actually wanted secretly like youre bruce wayne

socialism is fucking stupid and for children

The Wall's cost is a drop in the bucket. Highest estimate is $20 billion. That's nothing considering we had a yearly "stimulus" of $1.1 trillion every year that Obama was in office.

The point of the media bitching about the cost is to gaslight people into thinking the wall is a worthless endeavor. Remember goy, they can just climb over or dig under it. It can't stop all of them so why do it at all?

That would be wise considering he's neither.

He's trying to bring the meritocracy back. This is a good thing. Quotas are bullshit, pc is totalitarian and removing the illegals helps you compete in the market on equal terms with equal rights. Then best person wins, not the chick or black person or muslim just because they're a protected class.

Germany is doing €1 wages for mudshits. Employers pay €1 and the govt pays the rest. You cannot compete in that market when you need a full wage to pay rent. Who will employ you? The same thing happens when an illegal undercuts you in USA or when jobs go overseas. You're being fucked and you're among the best educated in the world. You should be shitting all over everyone else. If you give him a chance, he will make things how they used to be, before commie levelling bullshit fucked it up for everyone.

As a middle class larping socialist I'm glad you're finally seeing the light. It's what the rest of us did when we got out in the workforce.

>Implying that's what I said
Please kill yourself. Marx has ruined socialism.
Pretty much.

>socialist here
sure you are

I believe the workers should own the means of production. I'm a bonafide socialist. I don't like the fact that Trump is bourgeois but he's been OK in comparison to other presidents.

>I believe the workers should own the means of production
>I don't like the fact that Trump is bourgeois

you are top 5 worse type of humans in america at his moment

How do I know you're not just a Trumptard roleplaying as a socialist?

FDR was still more pro-worker but Trump is okay.

this

FDR was pro-ZOG.

>leftypol detected.
Even if his policies turn out to be shit, it will lead to accelerationism which will lead to a socialist revolution.

told you.

I believe that capitalism or socialism could work, with a slow glow of immigrants. Once we push past a certain limit, we naturally become ethnocentric, and once we do we become divided. I believe that race is a dividing factor and for the most part we should naturally be drawn towards our own race, which would allow a steady increase of iQ. I believe we can delve into mixing and such, but at too high of a rate, we become The Beautiful Ones and society begins to fail.

Except I voted for him ;)

>socialist revolution.

the arrogance and self importance of socialist
is so gay and disgusting

No shit, welcome to NatSoc done right.

much like you're posting

fuck off lolbert.

leaf quiet

alright answer this question

a gay socialist leader rises to power
he creates a gay army unit
for the well being of the country and people
you are assigned as their gay sex slave so they are comfortable and ready to fight

do you do your job ?

its for the good of the country and your fellow comrades

Never going to happen. The bankers are making too much money out of the system. You're just helping them move jobs overseas by being all muh feels for the third world. Eventually it will be beautiful open borders so they can pay everyone fuck all here too. You think wiping out ownership means you benefit? You get nothing. They get it all. ALL OF IT. Youre a globalist puppet but too brainwashed to see it.

Come to national socialism

The most lulzy about this whole wall thing is he probably got some friends or his own company as the contractor so he is funneling dumb white trash cuckmerican tax money for his own gain.

Does not mean that the socialistic movement would be nationalistic, if it isn't, it could become heavily globalistic and thereby ruined.

>implying socialism is based on faggotry.
Socialism is based on workers owning the means of production.
You're implying all socialists are internationalists. You're confusing socialism for communism.

That's why we need to change that.

exactly
you want to steal everyones money

but when someone wants to steal your ass its a huge problem

Nope you're confusing actual socialism and the lies they espout, it seems you have no understanding of the ideology or its history

>implying the super rich actually earned what they have.

But where's the proof

Does not mean the change will occur, though. Today's leftists believe anyone and everyone needs help nao so they can pat themselves on the back, and most nationalists believe in self help, and seeing what leftists are doing does not help people on the right accept socialism.

good. trump will win the antifacuck vote soon

I'm a Sorelian National Syndicalist. I used to be a communist. I know a lot about both communism and socialism.

>forgetting it's the jews

Liberals aren't the same as leftists. Antifa are a bunch of faggots. The fact is, socialism and fascism have more in common than most people know.

National syndicalism is very close to fascist ideologies

im leaving thread
i won with the gay socialist leader argument

and i apologize if i was to mean to you leaf

Kek good horseshoe argument jidf

OK, so putting money in the stock market is the same as actually earning it with sweat and blood. You are a capitalist cuck.
I consider myself a proto-fascist. I get into shit arguements with both Sup Forums and /leftypol/ since both are essentially partisans. /leftypol/ is consistent of Marxist communists and Sup Forums is consistent of Hitlerists """"""""""fascists""""""""".

Friendly reminder that Trachtenberg was a member of a very prominent tribe.

>implying horseshoe theory isn't real.
What a faggot.

Like you some evola huh? I'm interested to understand your ideologies could you explain if you don't mind?

Lol I'm not denying that, infact I agree. I believe you should see what people are advocating for, and what they believe in, and by viewing that perspective I believe that they both are too heavily divided. Its hard to acknowledge socialism, when the asshat who believes in the same format of government is advocating for test hormones for tranny kids, though.

Who would've though?!?!?!
Kekekek

So he's a nationalist who's also sort of a socialist. I guess that means Trump is actually a "national socialist". Who would've thought.

THANK you. It is quacking crazy that most leftists absolutely cannot grasp the concept of conserving the value of labor anymore.

Wew good argument there jidf ;) it's so easy to spot you kekekek

Real socialists don't know borders.
The more workers the merrier.

This is true, (((socialism))) and national socialism are completely opposite

Nothing wrong with a bit of National Socialism

This is true (((socialism))) and national socialism are opposites