Social engineering in germany

Well, not much to say about this.

They are desperate for sure.

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But it's right
Borders are imaginary, literally.

Most borders have to be defined by the humans, because they don't exist.
I'm not saying I will not shoot you if you trespass my property, but I'm saying that borders are actually "social constructs".

To some extent, at least as much as government, property rights and self-determination is. Just because something is a "social construct" doesn't mean it is bad or hasn't a purpose.

Correct. Borders and nations don't even exist, but I pretend they are a thing because natsoc is the most rational political ideology there is. I feel this way from my brain, rather than my earth, but it's ok.

>Knocks down your door
>Eats your food
>Fucks your entire family
>Shits in your bed
>Sleeps in your attic
>When you get upset, I inform you that borders only exist in our minds and you should stop oppressing my free liberal spirit
>You go back to bed feeling euphoric and enlightened
>Your wife divorces you but you stay for the kids
>They begin calling you by your first name

Shit I guess every liberal should stop living in gated communities then

>borders are actually "social constructs".

We need social constructs in order to keep a society civil.

Police are also a social construct. We need them to keep harmful people away if they hurt others.

Not at all, well, too much government is always bad

But they [OP's pic] aren't implying it's bad or good. They have a point.

>Police
No, they are tangible objects.

What it is a social construct, are laws and rules.
Neither am I saying it's good or bad.

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I totally agree, we are equal and don't need borders, now how do i pick up those billions from bank and move on private secure land with bought wives, boys and girls? I mean would this superiority trick where you get away with everything even work if everybody was equal?

Technically, they aren't wrong, but just because something is a social construct doesn't mean that it deserves no respect. All of society is built on such things, the connection between me and my family only exists in my head but why does that make it not real?

Either way, leftists have been pushing this since Marx and Engels were writing their little book.

"Workers of the World, Unite"
"The International Soviet will be the Human Race"
"Arise, ye people of all nations"

etc. They don't believe in nations, and they're going to do whatever they can to defend it. If you believe in borders and vote for a candidate on their side, then you're a moron. I have to admit that it's impressive the way that hardcore capitalists like the Clintons and Obamas have manipulated this particular bit of left-wing thought to make things as easy as possible for the "bourgeoisie". And leftists, the stupid fuckers, they praise them for it!

*and they're going to do whatever they can to defend that ideal

If borders aren't real then how are Syrian refugees real?

Borders exist in the brains of every animal since the beginning of time, it is unequivocally the most natural behavioral aspect of life on earth - to draw territorial space. Even the most dumbfuck microorganism that has nerve ganglia for brains can provide itself with territory.
Saying it's good or bad is meaningless, true, which is why it's not an argument for anything. It's simply your natural duty as a mammal, not even a human being, but as a sack of meat, to provide yourself with space.

Cars also don't exist because they were made by humans

I suggest you walk into traffic

This made me think

Google "tangible vs Intangible" fám

What's rather irritating is that I don't disagree.
This is a battle of
>Implications.
Borders are rather arbitrary by nature. They have to be. Unless you're an Island (and even then...)
But that doesn't negate the concept even from a liberal point of view, or even from an outright socialist point of view.

But the implication of the poster is quite clearly "They shouldn't exist"

>Borders are imaginary, literally.

Yeah, say that to the wall in the north you can't pass through in a few years and see for yourself how imaginary that is.

>Most borders have to be defined by the humans, because they don't exist

Tbf, that part of the Netherlands and that part of Belgium are virtually indistinguishable, racially, culturally or linguistically.

>No, they are tangible objects.
No, police are a concept. Uniforms actually have no inherent meaning, only what we interpret from them.

>Neither am I saying it's good or bad.
No, what you're doing is trying to fool people who have no training in epistemology.

You're trying to use bastardized, post-modern sociology arguments to try and convince people that they're somehow "stupid" for keeping your beaner ass out of their country.

Thats kind of a wrong statement spic, we still consider eachother to be sort of part of one another.

Also we're in the EU, we had borders but we don't anymore.

Fun fact - There is a huge strip of land that is deforested that demarcates the territory of the United States from Canada.

Would you allow an intruder into your home ?

It's not imaginary if you enforce them. Fucking stupid beaner. Law doesn't exist either, it's just words written down on paper but we follow them anyways because we need them to survive and have a civilization

Are you stupid m8

I can get a example from anywhere
If you delete the human made border, there are no fucking real borders. That's my point.

Police officers ARE real, what is imaginary is the concept of police, yes.

Somehow my Finanzamt thinks otherwise

well thats not entirely true i mean what is continents

So does Allah but people are willing to kill for him, so I'll stick to my arbitrary concept which stops them.

If there are no borders, then whats stopping Germany from taking Poland again?

Maybe in Europe borders are arbitrary an unenforced, but here in the west we take them seriously.

Ours won't be :^)

That doesn't make it a border though
Spain has territory in Africa.
Russia is in two different continents at the same time.

Borders are imaginary.
Does it make it bad or not, that's not the fucking point.

Nice try Burritos, but you'll not leave your shithole

they might exist only in my head, but I've seen End of Evangelion often enough to know not to tear them down

>property is a social construct

lets immigrate some lead into that xenophobic head

And rape is subjective. Also theft is sometimes justified. No need to draw any lines here.

>borders only exist in your head
>walks into timber wolf territory
>"b-but you can't have borders"
>gets ripped apart
Germany is so cucked

so does hate speech and laws

so is paying taxes

Isn't the Rio Grande a natural border?

Spotted that stuff in Bonn yesterday. I think im starting to hang on this site because thats just what I thought.

The markets beyond the border. Everyone would stop by and buy shit.

No matter how they try to paint it, its still necessary.

There would be no need to propagandize such a purely abstract idea if it weren't intended to imply something additional, something politically important

Even animals have borders, they're called territories. The idea that territorial delineations don't exist is actually the human social construct; they're rules of nature that all plants and animals abide by, and only some humans (and subhumans) think they shouldn't exist.

>Existence is a subset of tangibility.
Google "useful vs useless."
You'll find that while borders are useful, you yourself are useless.

I get your idea, borders constantly shift and change, especially within Europe, and bordering based on ethnic lines is dumb when theres not a single homogeneous country in the world.
My country has a large German population and people whom speak Belgian instead of Dutch for example, we've also harbored a lot of English people even before becoming a country that still live here.

Borders are important for a national identity though and to distinguish yourself from others, it allows you to define yourself, borders are also important because you want to screen who goes where.
If we have no borders we cannot have immigration and emmigration that doesnt create extremely bad social upheaval, all immigration is good economically but not all immigration is good socially, culturally and demographically.

Fuck saw this in Münster yesterday

My only hope is that retards will stop saying it now that it is associated with cigarettes

"open for more"

wow these women have walked all over german "men"

Rivers don't make borders

See: Any fucking river

It's the people who never contributed anything to society that now want to give that same society away.

The river is just a river. Saying its a border is just a convenience.
I get what Mexico is trying to say there. Nations and everything in it is just social contracts. But we have to take into account that we are humans, not savage animals, the cultural world are more important to us than the natural one, as contradictory as this may sound, thats what separate us from the animals.

What about the English Channel that was just once a river

>Cool bro. Agree dude. By the way, give me the keys to your apartment.

Large german population in the Netherlands
Speak belgian (?) instead of Dutch. (In belgium they actually speak French or Dutch. There's no such thing as Belgian.)

You're so full of shit! You're not even Dutch!!!

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People decided that this natural barrier will be a "border".

The could chose any other river, rock, or whatever because it's "imaginary" well, this sounds kinda lefty, let's call it a "voluntary multiple-side agreement of a perimeter".

Because I can recognize a border or I can't, for example, Israel.

>treaties and contracts are imaginary and therefor not valid

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Did I ever said they were invalid?
Are Germans this dumb?

Really?

You're the idiot. You make a sweeping statement that borders are imaginary and when given actual examples you grasp at straws. Physical features are natural borders.

>muh social construct
Laws against rape and murder are a social construct as well
But it seems like germany is doing away with those anyhow, so carry on I guess

Borders start as a social (actually a legal) construction but they should be protected by physical means such as walls and armed people which is when they become real.

Borders should be defined by the people that protect them honestly.So you know when that wall goes up and your shot by an american sentry you just discovered a border.

>L&M - Open for more

Thank fucking christ I switched to Winston.

Relativism and nihilism are cancer.

If you say every value your nation is founded upon is a "social construct that only exists in your head", it's easier to break it down.

>gender roles
SOCIAL CONSTRUCT
>nation
SOCIAL CONSTRUCT
>family
SOCIAL CONSTRUCT
>race
SOCIAL CONSTRUCT

You can go on until life itself devolves into meaninglessness.

>People decided
Mountains, seas and rivers tend to be natural borders in Europe because of defensive considerations. Unlike Americans people had fought to protect their nations in the past, you dolt.

>age
SOCIAL CONSTRUCT

Don't have any ancap memes on my pc some wanna dump some?

>Romulus and Remus
>Two brothers raised by wolves and fathered by the god of war Mars himself
>Two brothers on their journeys find a series of hills and proclaim on this site the eternal city of Rome shall be built
>Romulus and Remus work tirelessly on their goal, they build a modest yet clear wall
>The wall is a clear distinction of the borders of their great city
>Remus decides to troll his brother Romulus
>Brother Romulus, this wall is weak and short. Any man can climb over it and enter our city. It is a joke
>Brother Romulus replies, any man who crosses this wall will face the sword and die by a man of Rome
>Brother Remus hops the wall and doesn't believe Romulus
>Romulus kills his brother
>The city of Rome is founded on the blood of a brother spilled from crossing a border as an enemy

Borders are not imaginary things. Remus thought they were and he paid with his life. It is why his name is not remembered.

We need to start countering this shit. Get yourself a thick permanent marker and write on the poster.
"LAWS ONLY EXIST IN YOUR HEAD"

>[x] only exists in your head

Yeah so do abortion rights and property laws.

So does every worldview we've ever held and ever will hold.

When we suspend all of these notions we turn into less than apes, even they have an understanding of property. I hate the modern left so much, what is it they hope to achieve beyond mindlessly destroying something they never made?

Germany, nay, most governments of west Europe deserve to be toppled and their apparatchiks brought to swift justice.

Here in Australia our borders are physical, whether they be fences or oceans.

It's used as a tactic sure but it's also true. We just have to accept that social constructs are what define us, its our identity. There will always be forces trying to shift those definions to suit their goals.

>Borders only exist in your head *takes your taxdollars and uses it to feed migrants from the third world that perpetrate violence against you*

I don't think he's arguing against borders. He's making a philosophical point. Just as maths aren't "real" it is still the science which we will build our progress and future discoveries on.

>natural borders
Natural obstacles*

A river don't decide where a country is, there are multiple rivers in all countries. The people, government and their "neighborhoods" decide it.
They decide at what miles at the sea or lake or river is the "border".

And learn to read leaf, I never said they were invalid or useless.

>borders only exist in your head
>but trucks are plowing through your head

Threadly reminder that slide threads are created to train neural nets with your responses.

If you want to troll, just talk about neural nets.

Providing useful information is only helping to identify behavioral patterns surrounding the information presented in the OP.

Protip: You don't want to help the assholes running them.

>borders only exist in your head
Okay, krauts, try walking across the channel like you planned to in the war.

I'll have you know Anarcho-capitalism is also a social construct, mister.

Borders exist everywhere. Skin is a border that keeps flesh protected. Walls are a border that provide needed shelter.

One thing that actually does only exist in a person's head is the naive belief that you can just trust fucking everybody in the world to be a good person.

but they are right.

>borders are actually "social constructs".
This is true. Other social constructs: Laws, Murders, a tank formation, money, property and the police.

Mountains don't make borders
Lakes don't make borders
Rivers don't make borders

See picture?
Both sides at the same country, state and city.

Tell me about neural nets, my man.

>is imaginary is the concept of police, yes.
No, you are stupid. Social constructs awre not imaginary, for the most part they are far more real than physical things.

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>borders dont exist
i thought germans were mountaineers with no sense of humor.

Why is the sign in English?

thats' literally true though, you fuckwit. borders are just lines on a map. if you have something or rather, "have" something, you can defend it by force. otherwise, i don't avtually know that it's yours

Show me how the concept of "freedom" is tangible.

This

>Making an advert to let people know borders aren't real

Yeah, they paid a graphic designer to make that and paid for the paper to print it and rented a billboard because they just wanted to let you know borders are a social construct.

They want to abolish them. THAT'S THE POINT MORON.

People protesting borders should have their front door confiscated.

Used for anything from procedurally generated advertisements to sociopolitical countermeasures.

Though, honestly, I have no idea why they think they'll get anything actionable from Sup Forums.

Bandwidth is cheap, and rubes a plenty.