If your not a socialist you are cuck

>not wanting to own your workplace
not wanting a say in your pay and working conditions
>doing all the work while the business owners(mot management) do literally nothing

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I'm centrist
I'm not retarded to be ultra socialist or ultra capitalist

so in your view how much power should workers have over their workplace?

Same economically. Culturally and socially, I am a conservative.

I don't like when someone tells me I should share my work with others. This my work and I can sell it to anyone.

There is a difference between supporting the rights of the working class and being a disgusting anarcho-communist hipster cuck.

what do you mean "share your work with others"

i know
the right has idiot skin heads the left has cuck hipsters
not sure which is worse tbqh

Cuck hipsters, easily. They are worthless.

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You have the option of owning your own business, you're just too lazy.

i dont want to have to leach off other peoples labor to live a good life
life should be good for everyone

Socialism is literally Amway pyramid scam on a national level backed up with guns.

>not wanting to get paid $1 million a year being a salesman of fine Amway products

how is owning the place you work at a pyramid scam

How is getting paid $1 million a year for being a hardworking Amway product door to door salesman a scam?

The system is simple - you work harder, sell more products, get paid lots of money - $1 million a year.

This/10
>wanting to work for shecklestine at degenerate co. making dildos only to have him pay you in a 1/4th in any value you create

You mean as a sole trader?

>life should be good for everyone
That's pure idealism mate.

>what are barriers to entry
>what are economies of scale
You can own a business and then watch it get crushed by shecklestien mega corp.

I go on 8c leftpol and there's such a huge chasm between what the left perceive themselves as vs how society at large sees them.

Critiquing capitalism and wanting to get rid of it vs total social and sexual degeneracy

>That's pure idealism mate
ideals are good they give us meaning and purpose

Yes.

You need to go work for Amway so you can make $1 million a year selling their products.

get a life

Not all ideals are realistic and obtainable. No one is entitled to a "good life".

Thanks, you just realized how every single sane human being feels when you start trying to shove socialism on them.

it dont matter if you reach your gold only that you have one
> No one is entitled to a "good life".
i know, even in a socialist state you will have to work for everything you have i just want it to be more fair

>Socialist
>owning anything
You Sir, are delusional.

Taxman and other socialist bums.

Nice try, anglo. Try harder.

socialism is litter lay the workers owning their workplace. it's those idiot Communists who think we can live without ownership

>even in a socialist state you will have to work for everything you have
I have heard Marxists actually say in a socialist society, you have the option not to work, and still be looked after.

but taxes pay for things life healthcare
what kind of monster would rather people die than for him to have to pay taxes

Amway is literally getting paid more for doing harder and more work, $1 million a year selling products door to door.

It's those other multi-level marketing companies that are pyramid schemes.

You should know, that most "co-owners" then would be dumb, jealous, greedy bastards, and it would crumble too easily.

Marxists are idiots

Socialism (bottom up control) works very well in Rojava. It also worked in Barcelona.

there are hundereds of worker owned companies
it isnt a meme its real
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_employee-owned_companies

>wants muslims and niggers to flood his country and fuck his daughters
>calls other people cucks

kys cuck

Back to your containment board autistic commie neckbeard

>healthcare
>free/paid from tax-monies
No such thing in Finland no more, and the taxes are off the chart.
They literally let people die here now.

So you are a non-Marxist socialist? So are you a fascist?

No it did not.

>Rojava

Do you masturbate your tiny dick fantsising about a strong empowered hairy feminist kurdish waifu?

There are dozens of multi-level marketing companies.

It isn't a scam, it's real.

The FTC only partially limited their ability to operate due to their practices, therefore legit!

socialism inst xenophilia
just look at hitler

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutionary_Catalonia

>tfw your system works so well the capitalists team up to destroy you to prevent others from following your example

Then why dont you faggots move in Rojava or Venezuela or whatever socialist shithole?

No, seriously now? You cucks dont care about your nation, or race or whatevers. You actually despise it. So why not moving to a socialist place like Rojava.

This way everyone's happy. Why do you cunts want to ruin our countries for us?

wow that sounds bad
probably bad management, hopefully there is an election soon so you can get some competent people in

>works so well

[citation needed]

Why are there so many cringy socialist spergs in Britain? It has to be all the welfare using NEETs who have nothing better to do all day and get brainwashed by posh rich cucks like Owen Jones and Laurie Penny.

Bix news, mate.
I own my company too, but own things-, and do work with carefully selected people, without politicians having their dirty hands on it.
(except in the form of regulations and taxes, wich of >60% is for bullshit reasons and can be called stealing)

[autism intensifies]

Same can be said for national socialism.
>tfw your system works so well the capitalists and Bolsheviks team up to destroy you to prevent others from following your example

The difference however is that, the Germans did not a have a pathetic military which allowed women to have combat roles, and voted for leadership positions in the army.

no i just want shared ownership of my workplace beyond that im quite conservative

Yeah because socialists not only absolutely love Hitler but they are actually quite xenophobic.

Who the fuck do you think you're bullshiting?

Why do socialist cucks vote against there economic interests?

>>doing all the work while the business owners(mot management) do literally nothing

Made up delusions, as if you're being forced to work in some rat shit infested dump licking toilets.
Get over yourself, bitch. Demand a million dollar salary while you're at it.

>elections
Ehh... It`s beyond reversible with just elections now, the POSR has been crossed, and more extreme shit has to follow.

B-but I get to LARP as a private business owner on Sup Forums!

Because socialists dont actually work

I hate them both.

The irony of this coming from a country ruined by EU neoliberal capitalism.

You should have listened to Varoufakis, not Merkel

>wanting to eat
>not wanting to die in gulag
>not wanting your property to be confiscated and you and your family shot

fucking right wing cucks

>not wanting a say in your pay and working conditions
How about you learn to negotiate.

>leftypol newfag

you're about 3 months behind

USSR was state capitalist. Not socialist in the slightest.

>Varoufakis

Varoufakis was a hack you cringy pretentious commie neckbeard. You are a literal walking stereotype you fucking numale sperg.

Also I am a fascist i don't support capitalism but I believe in private ownership of the means of prosuction under state regulation to correct excesses.

Oh God here we go

[autism intensifies]

>not wanting to own your workplace
Are you implying you own the means of production?

i know this is bait
but how can people who have english as theirs first language mistake your and your're??

What are your opinions on National syndicalism and Strasserism?

There lies the problem. Every implementation of socialism and communism has failed at state capitalism.

>that's not REAL communism

There were no socialist state in the history. Actually "socialism" word shouldn't be used cause it implies that such thing ever existed. That's why better say "S word" cause real socialism has never been spoken.

>not wanting to own your workplace
Literally capitalism.

Because we have many many non-English speakers in this country.

Start your own business.

>I can't take the risk of my own business failing

And that is why you don't deserve any control over your workplace. If you're not prepared and don't have the skills or knowledge to build it on your own, then no one should have to hand it over to you simply because you want it.

Socialism is only advocated by people that are too stupid or too lazy to start their own businesses. Selfish, entitled, privileged people that want everything handed to them on a silver platter as though they were children, or royalty.

>the union of soviet socialist republics wasn't socialist in the slightest

Stupidest post of the month award right here

Absolutely nothing is stopping you from doing that in a capitalist system. Workers can band together and buy their workplace if they want. Where it gets retarded is when the government gets involved.

If you are a Socialist, you are mentally a child.

that sounds great
>he dosnt know Hitler was a socialist
how did it get like this
all those things only happen when idiot communist get in control and im not a communist
one man V a whole company isnt really a fair negotionation
no but i'ed like to
>What are your opinions on National syndicalism and Strasserism?
i dont know what they are
>>not wanting to own your workplace
>Literally capitalism.
no capitalism is investing money in something in th hope of getting more back i want ownership of my workplace because i want power over my life not a quick profit
there are hundreds of worker owned business
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_employee-owned_companies#United_Kingdom

Hey dude why aren't you signed up for Amway yet?

>no but i'ed like to
take the ancap pill user

Management here.

You have no idea what I do, and if I told you, you wouldn't understand.

>i dont know what they are
Look it up. They are technically fascist, and more to the left of all the variants. They reject the internationalism of Marxism, but believe in workers owning the means of production.

You figure out how to get rid of employees who abuse PTO and sick leave while having meetings on lying to upper management to make your numbers look better.

as management you are a worker to and deserve a share of your workplace

KEK

Hitler calling himself a socialist is irelevant.

National socialism and marxism, nazis and leftists couldnt be more different.

>it wasn't real communism

Fucking commie cucks will literally say communism hasn't been tried anywhere on earth but somehow THEY'RE THE ONES WHO WILL FINALLY MAKE IT WORK

If someone is so weak or lazy that he cannot provide his own healthcare then he needs to hurry up and die so he can stop polluting the gene pool.

i find this lack of empathy quite discusting

And then they come and post the picture with the soviet flag on the Reichstag bragging about how socialism destroyed nazism.

Make up your minds commies

If employees are abusing the PTO or sick leave schemes, then there's nothing to figure out, that's gross misconduct, there's the door.

It's essentially about managing projects, and maintaining relationships with other internal managers to resolve inter-departmental issues.

Why KEK?

I've been almost every level of employee. Low level, junior, manager, upper management.

I know how small and medium businesses work almost from top to bottom.

And I know that socialism can never function at the national level.

Do you always LARP as a manager on the internet?

Feel free to verify what I say. Anyone will back me up, and the skills are transferable between industries.

>National socialism and marxism, nazis and leftists couldnt be more different.
the difrence is that nazis were patiots while leftest were filthy xenophiles

Nigger do you even six sigma black belt?

Do you even kaizen or 5S?

>I've been a capitalist and operated at different levels of the capitalist system with other people fully integrated into capitalism and I can tell you socialism won't work!

And that being said, supporting socialism makes you a xenophile.

Regarding of what your actual opinions on immigration, nationalism, religion and culture are, if you support any socialist movement you support multiculturalism, globalism, atheism and faggotry.

Why? Because 99% of the leftists and all the leftist parties believe in these rotten values and they wont turn 180 degrees just because of you.

cool frameworks bro, feel free to explain them in your own words.

ask the former communist states how it went

I heard that turning the stove top on and touching it is an effective treatment for depression, anxiety and also works as a sleep aid.

You should try it.

just because other people are like that dosnt mean i am
> immigration
this is how rich powerfull men keep wages low and prices high we need much less immigration not more
>nationalism
this is just scared people banding together to fight a perceived threat
>religion
comforting lies
>culture
VERY IMPORTANT a nation without culture is not a nation at all

so national socialism?