Audio leaks reveal Republicans have no plan for Obamacare replacement and are fearful of the consequences of repeal...

Audio leaks reveal Republicans have no plan for Obamacare replacement and are fearful of the consequences of repeal. Many appear to be jumping ship
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telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/12162705/Patriarch-Kirill-meets-penguins-in-Antarctica.html
youtube.com/watch?v=46kAzBMJpEk
twitter.com/les_bogdanoff
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oh boy i'm sure that THIS TIME the media's explosive partisan exposee finally has some basis in reality

You mean the godd amned audio they have of these people talking and the fact those involved have confirmed its them?

can someone give me a quick rundown on these guys?

Too many of their voters need the subsidy. Thos is hilarious

who are they?

Quick rundown:
>rothschilds bow to the Bogdanoffs
>in contact with aliens
>rumoured to possess psychic abilities
>control france with an iron fist
>own castles and banks all over the world
>direct descendants of the ancient royal blood line
>will bankroll the first cities on Mars (Bogdangrad will be be the first city)
>Controls the British crown
>keeps the metric system down
>keeps Atlantis off the maps
>keeps the martians under wraps
>holds back the electric car
>keeps Steve Gutenberg a star
>own basically every DNA editing research facility on Earth
>first designer babies will be Bogdanoff Babies
>both brothers said to have 200+ IQ
>ancient Indian scriptures tell of two angels who will descend upon the Earth and will bring an era of enlightenment and unprecedented technological progress with them
>These are the Bogdanoff twins
>They own Nanobot R&D labs around the world
>You likely have Bogdabots inside you right now
>The Bogdanoffs are in regular communication with the Archangels Michael and Gabriel, forwarding the word of God to the Orthodox Church
>They learned fluent French in under a week
>Nation states entrust their gold reserves with the twins. There's no gold in Ft. Knox, only Ft. Bogdanoff
>The twins are 67 years old, from the space-time reference point of the base human.
>In reality, they are timeless beings existing in all points of time and space from the big bang to the end of the universe
>The Bogdanoffs will guide humanity into a new age of wisdom, peace and love
This is the final redpill. There is no endgame. We are stuck in a revolving door, and only the Bogdanovs have the way out. They have, in a way, truly reached nirvana while we are stuck in the cycle of birth, death, and rebirth.

>rothschilds bow to the Bogdanoffs
>in contact with aliens
>rumoured to possess psychic abilities
>control france with an iron fist
>own castles and banks all over the world
>direct descendants of the ancient royal blood line
>will bankroll the first cities on Mars (Bogdangrad will be be the first city)
>Controls the British crown
>keeps the metric system down
>keeps Atlantis off the maps
>keeps the martians under wraps
>holds back the electric car
>keeps Steve Gutenberg a star
>own basically every DNA editing research facility on Earth
>first designer babies will be Bogdanoff Babies
>both brothers said to have 200+ IQ
>ancient Indian scriptures tell of two angels who will descend upon the Earth and will bring an era of enlightenment and unprecedented technological progress with them
>These are the Bogdanoff twins
>They own Nanobot R&D labs around the world
>You likely have Bogdabots inside you right now
>The Bogdanoffs are in regular communication with the Archangels Michael and Gabriel, forwarding the word of God to the Orthodox Church
>They learned fluent French in under a week
>Nation states entrust their gold reserves with the twins. There's no gold in Ft. Knox, only Ft. Bogdanoff
>The twins are 67 years old, from the space-time reference point of the base human.
>In reality, they are timeless beings existing in all points of time and space from the big bang to the end of the universe
>The Bogdanoffs will guide humanity into a new age of wisdom, peace and love

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The GOP?
They have a base of poor people who are totally reliant on the Obamacare subsudies and are pissing their pants because if they cut them off thise people will turn on them.

youtu.be/YmfdnhPCi4c

No, the quickest rundown on the brothers.

What would happen if they just got rid of it and didnt replace it. With anything. What happens?

nope, the guys in the pic
other anons already addressed it though, I have taken the bogpill now

Because we should replace a disaster with another disaster, right?

Who're these guys? Can someone give me a quick rundown?

Democrats keep doing shit like Obamacare and social security to push us towards socialism, since it's so hard to get rid of without losing votes.
For now the ideal would be to downsize it significantly.

Well ultimately Trump wonby 20 k votes and if they cut 20 million people off from healthinsurance the Dems could just promise to restore it and crush them.
A very large part of the Trump voting base relies on food stamps and subsudies so that Ayn Rand shit is suicidal.

Here's the quick rundown on these guys
>Rothschilds bow to Bogdanoffs
>In contact with aliens
>Possess psychic-like abilities
>Control france with an iron but fair fist
>Own castles & banks globally
>Direct descendants of the ancient royal blood line
>Will bankroll the first cities on Mars (Bogdangrad will be be the first city)
>Own 99% of DNA editing research facilities on Earth
>First designer babies will in all likelihood be Bogdanoff babies
>both brothers said to have 215+ IQ, such intelligence on Earth has only existed deep in Tibetan monasteries & Area 51
>Ancient Indian scriptures tell of two angels who will descend upon Earth and will bring an era of enlightenment and unprecedented technological progress with them
>They own Nanobot R&D labs around the world
>You likely have Bogdabots inside you right now
>The Bogdanoffs are in regular communication with the Archangels Michael and Gabriel, forwarding the word of God to the Orthodox Church. Who do you think set up the meeting between the pope & the Orthodox high command (First meeting between the two organisations in over 1000 years) and arranged the Orthodox leader's first trip to Antarctica in history literally a few days later to the Bogdanoff bunker in Wilkes land?
theguardian.com/world/2016/feb/12/pope-francis-russian-orthodox-patriarch-kirill-make-history-cuba-first-meeting-in-1000-years
telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/12162705/Patriarch-Kirill-meets-penguins-in-Antarctica.html
>They learned fluent French in under a week
>scientists pointed a telescopic array at the source of the 'bog bang' that created our universe
>this is what they heard: youtube.com/watch?v=46kAzBMJpEk
>Nation states entrust their gold reserves with the twins. There's no gold in Ft. Knox, only Ft. Bogdanoff

Oh, they thought of that:
“We’d better be sure that we’re prepared to live with the market we’ve created” with repeal, said Rep. Tom McClintock (R-Calif.). “That’s going to be called Trumpcare. Republicans will own that lock, stock and barrel, and we’ll be judged in the election less than two years away.”

Well congress needs to get their shit together. They have 2 options.

Stall until obamacare implodes in 2017, and everybody freaks out at the costs.

Pick a free market solution, and take the heat from media, and poor constituents.

learn to spell you fucking left wing retard

In case you haven't noticed there was just an election. They have 2 or 4 years to do anything.

...

Wait for the phone call

I just don't want to be taxed for not having insurance. That's all I want.

>not having insurance
You are retarded.
They just need to bring back HSA's and catastrophic plans for young healthy people.

Hey genius: Those are representatives. Yhey face election every two years.
Just get a subsidy
I would spend less time worrying about typing errors and more time worrying about how you plan to win an election when you cut 43% of your voting base off of healthcare.
This is going to be great watching this blow up in their faces

This implosion of the GOP is beautiful. Hopefully the economy collapses so we can get a left wing gov. I really hope Trump fails

no shit

Bump

The solution will just be a continued allowance of anyone with pretty existing conditions to get any insurance, scrap the requirement to have it, and allow competition across state borders.
This will drastically reduce the price and the GOP will sweep congress in 2 years.

>Audio leaks reveal Republicans have no plan for Obamacare replacement and are fearful of the consequences of repeal. Many appear to be jumping ship

I think it's time to start reminding legislators that if they fuck with Trump's agenda in even the slightest way we will destroy them in 2018. We need to meme this shit.

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Whats so wrong with this thing called "socalism"?

Why can't the government just let everyone have free healthcare? Are ppl gna abuse it? Is it about money?

I just turn 18 4 months ago educate me please

Remember that these are the same lawmakers that thought Trump didn't have a chance in hell during the primary, let alone the presidential run itself.

People are not so fickle that they'd go "wtf I have no insurance I hate Trump now"
Give them access to cheaper insurance / no insurance (as an option, even if only stupid people would take that, that's still something that gets their vote) and they'll cheer you on,

Because there's no such thing as free. You are paying for it via your taxes, and you are paying for a lower quality version of it.

>Why can't the government just let everyone have free healthcare? Are ppl gna abuse it? Is it about money?

Read a book. Learn to type. Nigger phoneposter.

LOL but then you fuck 20-30 million Americans with pre existing conditions.

>LOL but then you fuck 20-30 million Americans with pre existing conditions
But he just said a continued allowance of anyone with pre existing conditions, idiot.

take the bogpill

How is it possible to change then? If you keep people on the rolls with pre existing conditions but remove the mandate. Why would I buy insurance? Why wouldn't I wait until I got sick then buy it?

Well then lets all pay for it thru our taxes. If we all payed a little wouldn't it be cheaper or the same price as insurence? We do that for a lot of things right? And why does it have to be low quality? Can't trump make it good quality?

I hear other countries have it but its slow and sucks. But can't trump make it American and make it good?

>typing errors
>spelling a middle school word wrong in two different posts

Simple, allow either
1. A delay from acquiring insurance and being able to use it (dental insurance is allowed to do this)
or
2. Force people to sign contracts of insurance that last X amount of time, such as 1, 2, 3, 5 years etc. The price can't be changed on them mid contract, but they also can't switch to another insurance during that contract, or stop paying for the one they signed up for. This would allow companies to charge a lot more for stuff like 1 month insurance premiums so someone doesn't just use it to get cured, but give cheaper costs to long term users.

>Well then lets all pay for it thru our taxes
Fuck off, that defeats the purpose of a free market.

>If we all payed a little wouldn't it be cheaper or the same price as insurence?
No, because it takes competition away. Competition drives prices down.

>And why does it have to be low quality?
Because everyone has it.

Non universal health care means you can have levels of healthcare. Basic coverage which would give you X amount of hospital visits a year, X amount of ER visits, and X amount of surgery coverage. Advanced coverage can go up to infinite of each, but costs significantly more. Different levels of coverage also factor in how much you have to pay out of pocket for more expensive procedures.

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US pays more for Healthcare than any other country in the world, both per capita and gross. To say that universal health care will increase costs because it removes competition is a completely retarded argument. Health insurance companies already have virtual monopolies over the states they operate in.

Republicans are finally realizing that a new Healthcare bill will likely take THREE years to develop and they're probably cussing out their LD's right now for their complete lack of foresight.

Nice meme libshit.
Other countries paid for their healthcare with much higher income taxes, sales taxes etc.

you mean a bunch of people not in the inner circle because they literally leak audio to the media?

come on man, who are you even gonna trick this time, two years of this bullshit and they were all lies, stop being such an useful idiot

Free market? Why talk about healthcare like that. Its about healing the sick, bottom line.if you think otherwise or like a businesse you need to reevaluate your thoughts. I understand ppl see $$$ and that needs to change.

Healthcare isn't cell phone service, we don't need 20 differnt carriers. We need everyone to be able to get well if they are unwell.

But if you want to do something like that then let everyone have free care and if you want more you can get extra from some company. Like antenna tv and cable.

You're a complete fucking idiot.

I just said the US pays more for Healthcare than any other country per capita. Regardless of their taxes, they still pay less.

>Free market? Why talk about healthcare like that. Its about healing the sick
Because people should have an option
1. If they even want health insurance
and
2. What level of health insurance they want

If someone wants to pay an absurd amount to ensure they'll always be at the front of the line for health care, and they'll be able to see a doctor whenever they want as quickly as possible, they should have that option. Just as people should have the option to have a cheap coverage that just covers basic needs.

Because our taxes are lower you retard, and taxes in other countries are allocated to health insurance coverage.
Additionally, prior to Obamacare the US had the best health care on the planet.

The Bogdanoff prophecy

twitter.com/les_bogdanoff

>There is an adventure that has seized men, from 1922 until today, and it is this story that we are telling. 1/2

>It is not only the birth of the universe, it is the encounter with men who have snatched up this original truth. 2/2

>It is extraordinary to think that the Big Bang takes place there are 13 billion and 800 million years and that in three minutes 98% 1/2

>Of matter has formed. What was there before? 2/2

>If we say that matter was born with the Big Bang, it means that before it did not exist. In science, this immateriality is called 1/3

>The information.This piece has requested plans.These plans are ds infos. We are not preceded by information, the genetic code. 2/3

>In the same way, the universe is preceded by information. There remains only one question: who drew the plans? 3/3

God damn boy you are in another realm of retarded. We're paying more for Healthcare, just not through taxes.

And no we don't have the best healthcare. Go Google average life expectancy by country.

This is the only meaningful metric for the value of healthcare.

Yes, NOW we are you fucking idiot.
That's because most premiums after Obamacare doubled their pricing. Prior to that, when factoring in healthcare vs tax differences for other countries, people in the US were paying far less.

>leaks
>WaPo

I heard reliable sources confirmed Trump is reviving Hitler as we speak

>And no we don't have the best healthcare. Go Google average life expectancy by country.
>This is the only meaningful metric for the value of healthcare.
lmfao
better healthcare is just one factor in life expectancy

We need more poor people to die, actually. Ban health insurance and let the free market fix it, problem solved. And if you show up to the ER with no means of payment, you should be taken to an empty bed and euthanized.

>google life expectancy
Dumb libshit.
Life expectancy has far FAR more to do with a country's culture than its healthcare. There are so many fat slobs in this country, that it shifts the life expectancy down significantly. In spite of that, with the US you'll have (and especially prior to the ACA) the lowest wait times to see a Doctor, and you'll have the highest chance of survival for serious illness out of ANYWHERE on the planet. There's a reason why people in other first world countries that get serious forms of cancer often travel to the US for care when they can afford to.

>Washington Post
D R O P P E D

oh, another false flag

fuck off CTR cuck

Yeah, I bet the nigger/beaner infestation has no effect on the average health of "the people."

Please kys

I didn't see a link to any leaked audio on that entire page. Just a quote from it. This is some Nazi germany level dishonesty.

Now factor in income taxes, retard.

Im not talkng about insurance, lets get rid of that. If you need medical attention just walk in.
If you want to be number 1 in line slip the nurse at the front desk a benjimen. You would only need to do it when you needed to so it would save you money.

I do agree with not running a hospital like a dmv and making it horrible though. Everything should be fast and effecient and everyone a happy customer.

We can make everyone happy if we put our minds to it right?

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>US [unlabeled statistic] is comparable to other first world countries
okay, what's the problem?

Haha thats nice, but who are they?

>Im not talkng about insurance, lets get rid of that. If you need medical attention just walk in.
Fuck off.
That is a horrible system and it's how everyone suffers.

Go look up how "fast and efficient" Canada's health care system is, because surprise surprise, it's fucking not.

Tiered health coverage is the only way to have a system that appeases people of all income brackets.

>implying the majority of americans weren't better off before anyway
Imagine all the degeneracy and shitskins that would have been eliminated.

>If you want to be number 1 in line slip the nurse at the front desk a benjimen.
>encouraging bribery like in shitskin countries
>benjimen
You have to go back.

>We can make everyone happy if we put our minds to it right?
No, that's impossible.

this is either a really good bait or you're genuinely mentally deficient

LOL dumbass this is Healthcare spending per capita. The amount shown for countries with Universal health care would be the average amount each person spends on it in their income tax.

Alertanitive facts my man.

Reminder that this happened a few days ago on Sup Forums.

That's assuming a flat healthcare plan like Canada's.
Which is complete and utter ass.

Also, Germany has a fucking 42% income tax for people making over the equivalent of 50k a year. Is that what you honestly want in the US?

Seriously, the GOP has a majority in both houses and a President. If they're worried about elections, they should just spend the next two years completely holocausting every Democrat institution while they can. Obongocare is shit and simply removing it would be an improvement.

Just because Canadas health system is bad doesn't mean ours has to be.

"Theirs sucks so why try ourselves?"

I say we can do better than them. Don't you?

>Hey, these guys failed
>and these guys failed
>and these other guys failed
>so let's do what they did!
Fuck off you dumb commie

Can any1 bogpill me on the phone call?

The mantra chanters, do they know they are the low points of the stream?
It's like they are the trolls because im sure all the views would poll that this is the boring part who's tuning in to see this all day?

>German income tax revenue is spent solely on Healthcare
>this is what you're trying to tell me

Let me spell it out for you: as in all countries, there are many things German tax revenue goes towards, Healthcare spending being just a small percent of it.

Please feed me another brain damaged rebuttal.

Yea, it goes towards their anti free speech police as well, and the welfare checks they hand to Syrian refugees.

it saved europe

We AREN'T them, we would tweak it to make it great!

We are America, we make things great.

Were they failed, we will succeed!

Where is your pride? With trump i though pol was filled with it.

The point of Trump is to stop with this commie shit being pushed by the left you retard.

>Republicans have no plan for Obamacare replacement and are fearful of the consequences of repeal.
Rand Paul released his replacement plan literally last week.
Fake news is fake.

Hey, good job user, you've finally realized how stupid your argument was.

Tbqh, being aware of your mental deficiency puts you in the top tier of retards, so I applaud you for that.

Looks like it failed becuase the GOP is scared to death of cutting their voting base off.
Looks like your faggot free market ideology is dead.

Maybe we don't like universal health care because it's a bad idea. Maybe we don't want to have our wealth redistributed to idiot subhumans who want us dead. Maybe we can see the consequences of socialized medicine all across the West and aren't interested in what you're selling.

No trump is not left or right. He is EVERYONES president.

He will help ALL the people.

Let me point something out to you, libshit. Germans do not pay from their taxes for a military. Their military budget is insignificant, because for their defense they largely rely on the US.
Think. Think for half a second what would happen if we added national health coverage to our budget, when health already encompasses about 25% of yearly spending, imagine for even a fraction of a second what would happen to that yearly spending if we had to pay for the insurance of every American citizen.

We would need a 40% flat tax for it to even potentially be viable, and even then the system would be ass like Canada due to not incorporating tiered coverage.

Fuck off you dumb commie.

Whats a commie?

>consequences of socialized medicine
>paying less for healthcare and being afforded the same quality as a privatized system
Insurance companies have cucked the fuck out of you haven't they?

DUDE. Look at the figures I posted earlier. Germany pays significantly LESS for healthcare than the US does. What they spend the rest of their tax revenue on is COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT.

Now please, God, I hope you understand this.

>claimS to have a damning recording
>doesn't publish it.
FAKE NEWS

>What they spend the rest of their tax revenue on is COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT.
No, it really isn't.
In addition, you are not factoring in the fact that Germany has a significantly healthier population than the US. We're full of fatasses that don't even exercise and niggers that can't stop shooting each other, the cost of our healthcare would be astronomical if it was universal.
Germany as a country does not have significantly more benefits than us. If you're the type of libcuck that would argue for universal health care, you're probably also the type that would argue for free university, which ALSO gets paid out of the taxes of everyone, including those who have not even gone to university / don't want to go to it.

That's the problem. You are taking the choice out of people. You are preventing people from choosing not to have coverage, you are preventing people from choosing to have much better coverage, and then even the average person suffers because, when everyone has the same coverage, it's going to be ass.

There is a reason why the US houses the best hospitals and universities on the planet.
It's because they're not controlled by the government, and have thus attracted the best professors and doctors on the planet that will work for the biggest paychecks on the planet.

Have another chart. Hopefully the lines and colors will be easier to understand than the common sense that has so far bounced off of you.

So if "free" healthcare was for rich, fit, white ppl it would be ok with everyone?