Not only is #MuslimBan ridiculous, but the EO is really straightforward, and only a small % of it's sections even mentions stopping immigration. And for those asking "muh saudi arabia?", Trump didn't pick and choose what countries to include in the list, he just went by a previous list approved by congress. Full-text: pastebin.com/zZmvTLNY
And how the fuck is banning people from 7 countries bad when Trump does it, but Obama doing the same to iraqis in 2011 is OK, Carter to iranians in the 80s is OK and demcrats in 2002 being in favor of the same thing is OK?
We should ban Muslims from calling this a Muslim ban.
Benjamin Murphy
Bumping for actual news and information
Liam Evans
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Michael Cook
bumperino
Christopher Campbell
They should turn it around, prohibit also the countries the dems said that were more threatening and also give executive orders for the FBI agents who were already investigating Mosques that were preaching harsh ideology.
Hudson Taylor
this, this retarded shilling was pushed by WaPo and other fakestream media outlets who COMPLETELY ignored how the countries were selected by Obama
Jayden Jenkins
so fifteen minutes of virtue signaling and we're back to our regularly scheduled programming
>/ourguy/ yell PEPE so we can watch the exclusivity enacted
Matthew Bell
it's not a muslim ban, it's a ban on wartorn shitholes. coincidence they're majority muslim?
nobody is getting deported, it's a travel ban denying entry to U.S. >Are dual citizens being deported? yes, but U.S. dual-citizens are still allowed >Are green card holders being deported? Priebus: Immigration Order ‘Doesn’t Include’ Green Card Holders, But Anyone Traveling to Banned Countries Will Be ‘Subjected to Further Screening’ >Is it just Aliens being deported? yes, U.S citizens are exempt
Angel Brown
spread this around anons, I've made this thread since yesterday and they always slide it
Dylan Richardson
this mfr is literally dividing people into groups
Adrian Perry
>Only problem I can see was implementation.
But that is not an insignificant problem. Trump desperately needs some folks around him who can advise him on how shit actually works inside of Government.
Mr. Newt should be Chief of Staff.
Luis Harris
>deported
Is it a deportation order?
My understanding was that it was an order to stop further immigration from selected countries until vetting procedures are satisfactory, including the governments of said countries cooperating with ID checks, etc.
Landon Torres
>Mr. Newt should be Chief of Staff. Newt doesn't have any qualifications that says he knows how "shit actually works inside of government" more than rinsed penis does.
Samuel Rivera
>Is it a deportation order?
It isn't.
But the people that are at ports are denied entry into the country.
James Evans
FAKE NEWS IS FOR JEWS FUCK THE KIKES LETS MAKE THIS RIGHT
The MSM lies are getting out of hand. Check these two lines: >"I hereby proclaim that the immigrant and nonimmigrant entry into the United States of aliens from countries referred to in section 217(a)(12) of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1187(a)(12), would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, and I hereby suspend entry into the United States, as immigrants and nonimmigrants, of such persons for 90 days from the date of this order (excluding those foreign nationals traveling on diplomatic visas, North Atlantic Treaty Organization visas, C-2 visas for travel to the United Nations, and G-1, G-2, G-3, and G-4 visas)." So where exactly is it banning diplomats and interpreters from those countries like the MSM is shilling. More fake news!
>"In addition, the United States should not admit those who engage in acts of bigotry or hatred (including "honor" killings, other forms of violence against women, or the persecution of those who practice religions different from their own) or those who would oppress Americans of any race, gender, or sexual orientation." Bb-b-but muh Drumpf is ebil! We need to get this trending. Get the retarded #NoBanNoWall and #MuslimBan fake news off my goybook.
Easton Powell
Mods should erase all the shit threads and make this one a sticky.
Dylan Lewis
exactly, I don't see anyone even mentioning this
as if, lulz
Cooper Baker
AAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
BUUUUUUUUUMMMMMMMMP
Jayden Campbell
Keep up the good work, but Sup Forums is being raided by ex-CTR shills who are somehow still getting $oro$bux to detract from factual threads like these. I've already started spreading these links to people I know. I'm sure Trump is planning some 1776D interplanetary boggle to call the MSM on their bullshit to further discredit them. There are so many fake stories, he could pick any of them and BTFO any outlet with a few tweets.
Oliver Foster
Bump
Dominic Hernandez
>1776D topkek
I've been trying to get this post going since yesterday but CTR is raiding big league and sliding it
Kayden Williams
Have you sent the links to Alex Jones yet? Nothing makes lefties crazier than a good old fashioned, Brainforce-induced, Jones tirade where 7 breaks for water filters are skipped.
Thomas Thomas
I didn't check how he covered the issue yet. If you can, put it on his comments section or something, he'll push the facts very hard
Daniel Nguyen
The ban should have been on new visas only. Trump fucked up a bit
Holy shit this damage control. Just scream MAGA like the good little tool that you are OP, trying to back your shit up with "evidence" just makes you look like an even bigger fag.
Caleb Thompson
>In addition, the United States should not admit those who engage in acts of bigotry or hatred (including "honor" killings, other forms of violence against women, or the persecution of those who practice religions different from their own) or those who would oppress Americans of any race, gender, or sexual orientation."
only problem is against green card and legal immigrants
you can't simultaneously decry illegal immigration and then illegally (and unconstitutionally) prevent legal immigrants from travelling/
Liam Jackson
>Noomi Rapace's mom was detained at the airport and eventually released
wtf Sup Forums, I thought you said Trump was going to ban Muslims not white people?
Gabriel Ortiz
I don't agree with the green card ban (although Priebus said it doesn't include greencard owners today), but I'm not so sure it's "illegal", and especially if it's "unconstitutional", since that's more restrictive >The statute is clear as day. The Immigration and Nationality Act (§ 212(f)) gives the president plenary power to “by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants.” Clearly, the president has the authority to block any non-citizen – including refugees, green card holders, and foreign students – from entering the country. Also, for purposes of deportation, there is no difference between a green card holder or a holder of a non-immigrant visa. No foreign national who has not yet obtained citizenship has an affirmative right to re-enter the country.
But AFAIK courts tend to give more due process rights to green-card owners
Samuel Thomas
Also, isn't the presence of terror groups supposed to be the main point of this ban? Why NO one mention it (even here on Sup Forums) : Iraq -> ISIS Yemen -> Al-Qaeda Syria -> ISIS Somalia -> Al-Shabaab Libya -> ISIS, Al-Qaeda
Brayden Richardson
Done, shilled it hard in the comments section on the newest article. Hoping for a rant tomorrow.
Aaron Smith
this too, but mainly these are the easiest country to deal with (same reason obam chose them), all either failed states or in the middle of a civil war or Iran
thanks, I hope he does some "Magellan is a lot cooler than Justin Biebler"-tier rant
Angel Cook
Iran -> Hezbollah
Lincoln Sullivan
And an american enemy for many years
Ian Perry
Seriously this shit was driving me up a fucking wall. Saying this is a muslim ban is a blatant fucking lie and these people honestly believe Trump put this travel ban becausd he's some kind of hateful bigot. I mean are these people out of their fucking minds? He's halting all travel from countries infultrated by terrorist groups, are they saying muslims are all fucking terrorists?
Holy shit do these people need to actually read the fucking statement before blowing this shit out of proportion because they're only going to drift everyone into wanting to fucking throw them in a helicopter and drop them off in Saudi Arabia
Jacob Jenkins
Bumping legit thread, stuff like this got me addicted to pol. Please keep my crack coming
Logan Reed
I'm not trying to shill, I don't understand this whole thing for real
Why did he use a list, made up by the previous administration? Was he lazy? Incompetent to send his own staff to make up a list?
Out of all these countries, what are the first 3 coutnries that pop in your mind when I say terrorists? I'd say it a toss up between Saudi-Arabia, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and UAE. None of them are on the fucking supposed obama list.
Why did this half-assed ban get passed? Why didn't he wait untill the whole thing was investigated? I generally think that this blanket banning is a bad idea, but if the main reason behind it is to stop terrorists, why not make a well researched decision?
This was a dumb, rushed, not thought out. How can you defend it, seriously? Why use the fucking Obama list, why
Matthew Richardson
Also why do this so fucking suddenly? Give heads up through secret diplomatic channels, that hey we are going to SHUT IT ALL DOWN in the following month, prepare your anuses, it would've softened the blow.
But no , really, my main question is, why not instantly ban the countries like Saudi Arabia, and why would they use a list put together by the different administration, it's either highly incompetent, or lazy. If this is some baiting tactic, i'd say it horribly backfired
