So do we just not care about freedom of Religion anymore?

So do we just not care about freedom of Religion anymore?

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no problem with that tho

Islam isn't a religion, it's a dangerous political expression and it always has been that way.

What if freedom FROM religion?

Cringe.

my religion, is fuck everyone up and murder women and children who don't agree, but not everyone in the religion HAS to do it
so you can't assume that it's all violent.
In fact if you don't think it's peaceful you're sick and need to reconsider who you are.
Now give me my freedom of religion!

It's nice that you have that opinion, but that doesn't change the fact that it is a religion.

Trump's banning Muslims by region and defacto by religion so there's no 1st ammendment problem here.
Presidents have always been circumventing that coexist bullshit. Teddy Roosevelt banned polygamists to defacto ban Muslims

We never did, Reddit

We were always a fascist board

Should have said "A man."

That comic is just dumb

I think you're exaggerating. There's always been an exception to freedom of religion when your religious practice involves human sacrifice or other acts of violence against innocents. That's just what Islam has become.

The 1st amendment does not apply to foreigners.
Also, we don't have to let anyone in.

>So do we just not care about freedom of Religion anymore?

Islam is not a religion and neither is Scientology, one is a political ideology and the other is purely for profit. Both are cults that punish those who leave a religion does not do that.

It's still illegal to murder people. Christianity can also be used to murder people, and has been used as such before, just as easily as it can be in Islam. It is possible to be a Muslim and also not murder people, just as it's possible to be a Christian and not murder people.

Next panel has him getting stepped on.

Freedom of religion: The freedom to profess any religion in your country without the interference of the state

Nothing was done against that

Muhammed was a warlord, Islam was the political ideology he spread in order to gain and keep power.

>Christianity can also be used to murder people, and has been used as such before, just as easily as it can be in Islam.

People are free to stop being Christians. Muslims punish anyone who leaves islam with death. There is no part of Christianity at all that advocates violence against anyone. The entire cult of Islam prescribes death repeatedly.

yeah lets follow the constitution mindlessly and forget all judgment.
Obviously if something is being exploited we must do something about it for the safety of the country.
Oh but Islam is a religion and freedom of religion.
guess what if someone's rights take away from the rights of others it is no longer there right. That's how it works and always will work dumbass.

>bans immigrants from 7 countries
>Muslim ban
pick 1

>Sup Forums
>caring about rights

National socialists don't believe in rights, they're explicitly opposed to them. NatSocs want to be owned by the state.

>foreigners have rights
We already screen for political views
Is this a freedom of speech violation?

The motive is purely based on Religion. So yeah still a problem.

Simply believing in a religion is supposed to be equated with killing people? Sounds bad. You can be a Muslim and not kill people.

Good thing this ban also applies to people with dual citizenships.


I'm sorry you don't like that Islam is a religion, but it's still a religion regardless.

Yeah, Mohammad definitely thought of making a political ideology back in 7th century while setting its foundations, cuck.

You mean separation of church and state?
No, I don't want the government to adopt an official religion and charge me a tax to support the local house of worship
You know, like Muslims want enforced under sharia law
Got to keep those savages OUT

Elaborate on your obvious bait.

You're free to express your religion.

The Constitution only applies to people here. The President has full authority to turn anyone away from entering this country he wants, on any basis, for any reason.

Separation of church and state.

Oy Vey except for Islam, islam must be promoted at every turn to combat islamaphobia!

OY VEY lets use their constitution against the goyim.

Nice try commie Jew.

>Good thing this ban also applies to people with dual citizenships.
citation needed

Islam is not a religion. It is a political system diamtrically opposed to the us constitution.

Not all religions are equal, a religion that dictates it must subjugate all others in the name of that religion using violence and subversion doesn't deserve to be treated with dignity.

Who is infringing on anyone's freedom of religion?

Do you monkeys ever tire of virtue signalling?

Actually he killed the god and then wore the skin of his followers as clothes.

And God in the old testament murdered everyone on the planet but a single family because he didn't like how it was turning out. What's your point?

No, people are free to stop being Muslim, because people have that choice in America. Also, I believe the crusades would like to disagree with "There is no part of Christianity at all that advocates violence against anyone."

Not if the religion is inherently opposed to everything this country stands for.

>So do we just not care about freedom of Religion anymore?
Not really, no.

They have freedom to practice whatever religion they want in their home country

You're not wrong.

So much better than Supergod though.

who's more likely to murder people, and who does murder people more often. Also Christians who understand their bible don't murder people anyways. Well same can be said about Muslims, if that were true than why do the people who were born into that religion and raised up in nothing but that religion turn out the most radical? And why don't we see nearly as much killing from Christians in the history of this nation which was built on Christianity.

Only religious beliefs that should be allowed in America are Christianity (except for Mormans because they're retards), Atheism, and Agnosticism. Anything else doesn't belong here.

No, he didn't. He didn't think of making a religion either. He just said a load of shit to get power and a militia to kill people for him, then he used this to suppress people and force them to submit to his rule.

What about Jews owning all of your big companies?

The Founding Fathers hated Islam and Muslims and everything they stood for
The freedom of religion part was never for them, there wasn't even a single dune monkey on the continent when they were alive and Jefferson fought two wars against them

>And God in the old testament murdered everyone on the planet but a single family because he didn't like how it was turning out. What's your point?
clearly didn't understand old testament
they weren't people they were children of men and angels. Noah's family was the only one untouched through it all.
>old testament
>not understanding Christianity

Where do you think we are?

>The motive is purely based on Religion
So you admit that Islam is a terrorist religion?
Because he enacted the ban because of terrorism not islam

Islam is a religion and a political structure.

The difference here is the Old Testament is just a story. Mohammed actually existed, and he actually caused thousands (if not millions if you include what's been done in the name of Allah in modern times) of real deaths.

Plenty of things about Christianity is about taking certain rights from individuals and yet Christians don't practice it. It's still 100% possible to be Christian and not use those practices, and it's not any different for Islam.

Oh I see, it's ok because they didn't ban ALL the Muslims. Definitely not explicitly motivated by banning Muslims despite being specifically said so.

And for people with dual citizenships? Are those supposed to be "foreigners"?

And plenty of things in the Christian religion want plenty of draconian enforcements onto society. Islam isn't remotely unique in that aspect.

And for people with Dual Citizenships? Fuck em? Seems bad.

I don't think not banning Muslim countries from entering the US counts as "promoting at every turn"

Does that have an expiration? Because Islam isn't unique in that aspect.

>Old Test is just a story
you were there, and can prove that right?

How about freedom from religion? Will never happen though because the average person is too stupid to live without it.

>Plenty of things about Christianity is about taking certain rights from individuals and yet Christians don't practice it. It's still 100% possible to be Christian and not use those practices, and it's not any different for Islam.
Like what? since we happen to have an expert in this thread

And you can prove otherwise? That's not the point anyway.

citation need on the dual citizens faggot

I mean should I cite one of the other many examples of God just being cruel to people? It's ok to kill "children of men and angels" but not people? Sounds like seem weird arbirtary bullshit. And what was Noah then? Sounds like real fucking stupid response.

Also, I didn't connect that part to Christianity at all. You did that, all by yourself. You're right, that's not Christianity, that's Judaism. Should we exclude them too? I'm sure that's a great idea.

>And for people with Dual Citizenships? Fuck em? Seems bad.
What the fuck are you talking about?

le atheists are superior to le religious folk
>dibs fedora
kys

Yes the removal of the religious freedom will happen in the future.
Instead of just permitting every religion they will introduce some kind of allowing process where you have to register with your religious group and get whitelisted.
t. globalist elite insider

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God can kill who ever he wants

>the religious complaining about representation
when we elect a non religious candidate to office Ill start paying attention to religious liberty complaints.

President Obama puts six month ban on Iraqi refugees in 2011 and media…. crickets.
President Trump puts 120 day suspension on Syrian refugees 2017… media explodes.

Obama selects 7 countries for enhanced visa security policy and media… crickets.
Trump uses Obama law, same Obama DHS policy, and same 7 countries; for a 90-day visa suspension and media explodes.

Why are liberals so stupid?

You're the one making the assumption here.

>be liberal
>Islam and terrorism have nothing to do with each other!

>be America
>sick of terrorist attacks
>ban immigrating from terrorist countries where it's impossible to vet terrorists from normies

>be liberal
>y-you can't ban ppl based on religion

Kek the cognitive dissonance is astounding

Leviticus is definitely the worst Bible book and they shouldn't have included it in the final version, but yeah

This justifies Trump's actions how?

It's more about freedom FROM religion. They first came here because the dominant religions of their day were trying to FORCE religion upon them. So there came here because they could WORSHIP HOW THEY PLEASE.

Now we have another religious group HELL BENT on eventually FORCING THEIR BELIEF SYSTEM on the place they live.

Do you want to live in a city/county/state where 60% of the population is Muslim? What do you think would happen to women/gays/atheists/Christians?

I sure as shit don't until that religion goes through a transformation. They seriously need a "Jesus" to mellow out all their Old Testament like bullshit. Until then, that religion is too hardcore to coexist with a liberal democracy.

The Constitution only applies to American citizens people from other countries don't have the freedom of religion your Constituion speaks of for fuck sakes if your not an american citizens you shouldn't be in america.

I don't know how I feel about Islam's ability to influence the US by numbers. But I think this action will have the opposite effect on how people feel about Islam. Right now the whole world is looking at them like victims. And they're treating them like it.

>They seriously need a "Jesus" to mellow out all their Old Testament like bullshit.
This is a fair point. I would've really liked for there to be Jesus like counterpoint to Islam.

I never did.

I'm a Pagan, I voted for Trump.

I do not feel threatened, no one is prosecuting me.

it seems a bit impractical that such a massive chair could be carried by so few slaves

also if he's god why doesn't he just float along or something

>if your not an american citizens you shouldn't be in america.
So nobody ever comes to America? Also, what about all the other countries those 7 aren't? Some real bad logic right there.

I think the Jewish media is portraying them like victims which is fine. Most of America is ecstatic. My whole neighborhood was full of audible cheers when it was announced that refugees were being turned back at the airport. The air here is electrifying with excitement. You may just have to come to the realization that America hates Muslims. Whether it's justified or not is another story, but that's the case. If the media continues to shill for Muslims, it's only going to hurt the media. The Muslim ban was more popular than Trump and Hillary at one point during the election.

It's almost as if a specific religion is being targeted. One that isn't Paganism.

actually they don't

If I'm not mistaken, religion played a big part in forming american identity, first americans were not fond of catholics for example.

Coming here is a privilege is not a right

if you think coming to your country is a right that everyone in the world has your a fucking retard.

>prosecuting
too dumb to worship any god

I kek'd at that too

I know it's confusing OP, here's how it works...

Liberals care about religion when it comes to immigrants. So when you ban Muslims you're violating their sacred religious rights you bad so and so.

But... they are opposed to religious freedom when it comes to abortion and gay rights. So if you don't support these things because of your faith you are a no good so and so.


Get it?

One that's dangerous.

The concept of freedom of religion existed within christian and jews.
Not that Judaism is great but Islam is too political and violent in the immediate for the concept to hold.
As said John Locke tolerance cannot tolerate intolerance so it doesn't apply here.
(He wrote a lot on religious tolerance)

Well Canada's action alone makes them out to be victims. Also, there are US citizens protesting the ban, so not all of America.

That's why I don't support "muh principles" at all anymore. If it's anti-traditional, I'm against it, and would go as far as to burn it in order to remove it from my country. The left has lowered the level of discourse to blatant partisanship in every regard, so I just meet them there. So far it seems to be the best way to discuss politics if you just stay in fantastic shape and carry a gun everywhere. Sadly that's the state of the union.

I think OP generally believes the dual citizenship thing was meant for people whose citizens ship was American+one of these countries. How sad to base your opinion on a misunderstanding.

Here's the thing: If you allow everybody to have their own religion, you have to prevent everybody from forcing others into their religion.

As it stands now the worry exists that muslim immigrants from less-secular regions who have not yet tasted the sweetness of basic human rights and the appreciation of a world where not spiritual dogma but personal aspiration and decency define worthwhile human beings will change the rules simply by numbers, making life less enjoyable for people who disagree with Sharia law and Islam, overall.

So right now, the course is to try and moderate radicals and secularise moderates so they are Western citizens with muslim beliefs instead of muslims in the west.

fuck religion, we dont need it.

Canada can have them. Hopefully they build a Southern Border Wall to keep those racist Americans out. As long as we don't apologize we will be fine. I say we double down and ban everyone from Pakistan Afghanistan Indonesia Saudi Arabia and UAE next.

Careful they do not refer to them as arabs or middle easterners but as asians when they migrate here.
Pakistan Afghanistan Indonesia Saudi Arabia that is.
It's a new trick the western world got from the UK to make it easier to swallow.

And all other religions are harmless butterflies.

I think it's something that shouldn't be excluded for the current reasons

>But... they are opposed to religious freedom when it comes to abortion and gay rights.

Uh.. and Christianity is different from this how?

youtube.com/watch?v=9OVnqerWUHg

We don't have that problem in the US. We smell Muslims and we just go to grab our guns. It's the one positive that happened from 9/11 was the innate distrust of these people in almost every American heart.

Jesus was a retarded SJW master beta cuck possible jew agent and Mohammed was a psychopathic warchief from the sands with a taste for the little girls.
That's where it differs and you should be a little more grateful because you inherited your cuckness from Yesus himself.
It's your ideological missing father figure.

That's nice, they're both still are opposed to religious freedom when it comes to abortion and gay rights.

Remember how Jesus came to denounce the arbitrary rules? Ya nice research there.

Nop.
Not at all.
Jesus said to show "compassion" for those who were hurt by a sin.
So you don't kill a gay, you just feel bad for him.
Now for abortion it would be a little harder to pick a stance considering the fact that it implies a life but Christianity and Islam are not to be compared when it comes to the faggots that's for sure.

Trumptards are anti american.

Is there supposed to be some sort of line drawn there? Or just what anybody decides is "arbitrary"?