#calexit

>vice.com/en_us/article/what-would-actually-happen-if-california-seceded-from-the-union

>But letting California walk away could also be politically advantageous for conservatives. The state makes up a little over 20 percent of the electoral college votes a Democratic candidate needs to become president. If the most populous blue state vanished from the electoral map, that will most likely still help Republicans secure their next presidential victory.

Trump would win yet again in 2020 without California. That's 50+ free electoral votes for the Dems walking out the door. Hell, it'd be nearly impossible for any Democrat to win the presidency in the next 50 years if Calexit happened.

When the wall starts up, CalExit is really going to become a thing. Good. We should support it.

It won't happen, but if it did, the democratic party would be ended.

It would just move to the right.

Trump is going to win in 2020 even with California.

To gain the states they would need, they would have to move so far to the right, they would be a lite version of Republicanism.

He's not gonna be able to win in 2020 because there'll be nothing left FOR him to win, Drumpftard.

Quick, someone register 242towin.com.

You fucking idiots
Do you realize no one would vote for the party that broke the union
If calxit happens republicans will be seen as the party that let the union break
Honestly you fuckers are so detached from what the avg person thinks its bad as the media

HOLY FUCK

NO

IF *ANY* STATE LEFT THE UNION (let alone Cali) IT WOULD DESTROY THE UNION.

We would enter Civil War first and commit national suicide before we see American land break away. Because that traitorous land will have to turn to foreign government for aid and weapons.

If Calexit goes through - Cali will become a colony and military staging ground for the Chinese to support their puppets in the ensuing Civil War.

They used to be exactly that on most issues. No reason it can't change back.

And you see no problem with them shifting from almost Authoritarian Extreme Left to right of center virtually overnight?

It would likely be an all or nothing push towards Texas+Arizona+Florida which would give them the majority even if they have to concede MN, WI, MI, PA, and NC

It would be 256towin, retard. Thanks, I just registered it.

This.

Shit would become a crazy quilt of Red America and Blue America.

Like shadowrun without so many Indians.

It's illegal.

turn off their nuclear reactors and set them lose.

We will make up the tax revenue by selling them power

we need to kick the jews out of california along with the mexicans and other scum

>russian shills and retards still pushing this agenda
>knowing anything about u.s. history
>knowing anything about u.s. legal process

Not only that, California would also be utterly fucked.
>loses all those profits from the sea trade since they are no longer one of the gates into the US market
>gets fucked over when buying water and electricity from the other states
>same for food
>loses its industry even faster than they are doing now because they keep their regulations while losing access to the US market
>opens its border to Mexico

If they want to do it, let them. I mean, we would lose a lot of land that later has to be recovered, but it would utterly crush the lefties.

People have very short memories. All the "X will not win again for 50 years" are turbo memes that are always proven wrong. They said the same thing after Reagan, after Nixon, after Obama. Love or hate the two party system, but it makes sure you don't go for too long without potent opposition.

Be sure to keep Jefferson and east Cali. in exchange we keep south Cali, silicon valley and L.A. can keep themselves

Except u can go to war to bring them back in or time there exit to delete their votes and bring them back once election is over. If trump wins again praise!! If he loses he can recover Cali and be remembered

>California seceded
>lefty faggots there and supporters around the nation are out down as enemy's of the state
>Marxists and Cali is completely btfo in the most lopsided war ever
>their posion ideology is forever shamed and ruined in the USA for years to come

I think what these people don't get is that California doesn't have an army. The South had an army.

What are they gonna do, throw lattes at our tanks?

Cause that's what happens last time...oh yeah the republicans are still around

Here's hoping for THE 'earthquake' to come sooner. Watch how those libcucks bend the knee

They need to take the north east and NYC with them though imagine our utopia then

How soon would independent California turn into a Syria level shithole with muslims and mexicans gangs fighting for power?

>losing an economy the size of Italy would be good for the US

Why do conservatives think the heartland could survive on its own? Your shitty states don't produce anything worthwhile, without liberal cities the US wouldn't have the money to maintain its superpower status.

Almost half the state is federal property right?

Didn't we fight a big war once so this wouldn't happen? California schools really are that bad I guess

Could California's exports of smug, overpriced tech ideas and terrible movies make up for the gallons and gallons of water they need to import?

>Your shitty states don't produce anything worthwhile
Only everything that is actually required to keep a country running.

California ain't going anywhere m8

Calexit is an even more retarded idea than the six Californias project. Stop shilling Silicon Valley

Wouldnt it be more accurate to say the confederate ideology was shamed for that? This time around it'd be marxist rebels.

It's becoming part of Canada m8

If California tried to succeed we would send in troops and make then a territory. They'd lose all their power.

>California tries to secede
>tanks and Civil War laws still on books fuck them
>California reduced to non voting military district
>can't vote in 2020 like Virginia, Texas, and Mississippi in 1868
>California then carved up into gerrymand'd new states
>Republicans now have more senators and electoral votes
Pretty cool to be honest.

This is the best scenario

Or, let them try it and bomb and invade them.

Reannex it to the Union and just disenfranchise them and round up the democratic party as traitors.

>some accidents happen and a lot of Hollywood clebs end up dead

t. country that lost a war vs a third world shithole in the middle east

Better watch out fash, California's liberals would protest you so hard. Your troops may be able to storm beaches and secure the skies but they can't stop a good cry-in.

Its illegal you faggot. Literally what started the civil war. Unironicly kill yourself. 6th largest economy in the world but adavantages to let them go. Kill yourself faggot!

that wouldn't happen.
If they lose California, policy around the entire nation would change so drastically, i honestly think the DNC would end.

let california become their own country
and let's fill them with the BLM and feminists

Math isn't your strong suit, is it?

Jefferson liberation when?

there is some supremely autistic roleplaying going on in this thread
most likely scenario is liberals butthurt for another 4 years and don't do anything because they have nothing to secede with

I live in california...if it happened, i'd leave california.

>pennsylvania
>blue

isn't that meme over?

also Trump would send in the tanks

Well actually yes it would be bad, the only reason fascism and far right ideas have been dusted off and talked about is because the liberals went nuts and brought back open Marxism and sodom-level degeneracy. If they go back to the center we'll lose our reactionary movement

This, the US isn't about to let CA become an open borders free zone, it would legitimately become a national security threats. The best "Calexit" that CA can hope for is one that turns them into a virtual neo-colonial protectorate of the US, where their foreign relations, national defense, intelligence gathering, and some amount of immigration controls are all handled by the US. Also, all the military bases would be kept under perpetual leases and governed directly under US law.

>Do you realize no one would vote for the party that broke the union
No-one likes goddamn fucking california, dickhead

"We're gonna make Escape from LA happen, folks. It's gonna be wonderful. The budget will be enormous. It'll all be televised. You don't wanna miss it."

Ironically, Fascism and Hitler was Ultra Authoritarian and was just left of center by Nolan Models. I have no idea where people are getting the idea that he was right wing. If people want a right wing dictator, Pinochet from Chile was a good example.

Literally the only people that want this to happen are in SF and LA, why cant we just remove SF and LA from CA

To do what with? The state is worth more economically than many others combined. Even if he dropped an atom bomb the entire country is looking at the end of itself as a legitimate economic power. The hick states contribute nothing and offer little while being the sole benefactors of social welfare ironically. Destroying Cali would be an awesome reality check to the sister fuckers in the rest of the country.

Let them go, once they run out of water we will only sell them botttles of Fiji water until they come back

>I have no idea where people are getting the idea that he was right wing.

mostly because he was a hardcore anticommunist.
and since communism = far left that makes hitler far right in normies eyes.

>calexiters honestly believe they won't get SHERMAN'D if they quit

HEY user, WHY ARE WISCONSIN, MICHIGAN, AND PENNSYLVANIA BLUE ON YOUR MAP?

THEY SHOULD BE RED

Which is fucking moronic.
The only permanent staple of right wing is economic liberty, where the only permanent staple of left wing is personal liberty.

By the way, condolences for your country, if that isn't a proxy.

California can't stand by itself it needs us. To be frank, cutting off California from the union would be akin to cutting off a gangrenous limb. In the political sphere t would be 100% positive.

The only hiccups are that their leaving would open up a giant whole in our border security as well as signal to the other Union States that seceding was an option. Which it isn't.

The United States by law does not recognize secession or secessionists. Even if the population of California voted for it, the United States wouldn't recognize it and if California resisted in any capacity we'd brutally fucking demolish them in any form of confrontation.

What I'm trying to say is that I don't really give a shit what they do. Either way they're not fucking going anywhere, it's just a choice if they want to get buttfucked or suck it up. It's not my concern which they pick.

It's concept the reactionary right. Conservatives in social and national senses reacting to the left wing nut jobbery. Bismark is a pretty famous example of This. Unfortunately, most people don't understand any of this.