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TFW bought his book and all the books he recommends

I will

Rescue your father from the underworld.

This guy is mentally a mess. HIs arguments are not convincing and he sounds borderline schizophrenic. I can see what people are deserting him

IM TRYING

Retrieve the orb from the darkness.

Myself is already sorted out, thanks very much.

I don't suppose you could translate your recommendation into leftist lingo, could you?

I'm trying but I have homework due tomorrow and I don't know how to do it and it scares me ;(

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Solve your agoraphobia. The rest of your fears will melt away.

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I'm on it. Hard work is hard.

Slay the dragon to rescue the virgin within.

You have to return with the orb so we can share in it's light and beauty. Tell us your truths, help us check our presuppositions.

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Roughly speaking.

> properly

Not gonna lie, former Jordanite here.

In all seriousnes we can't let Peterson get his hands on the cultural narrative.

I could tell he was a little not right by the way he never even so much as cracks a smile. In a younger person, I would assume it's autism, but since he's older it's probably something else.

Why didn't he sort himself out?

In all seriousness, we can't let him get his hands on the nuclear codes.

Eat your own semen.

he spent a lot time in real life talking to VERY sick people, i dont think he sees much humor in anything anymore.

Lying physically damages your soul, user.

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I hate watching Peterson's lectures on Youtube because all of his videos feel identical. Anytime I hear him speak I hear the same 10 talking points, and even then they aren't strong enough on their own to rearrange the world as he sees fit. He's at very best an entry level redpill.

>Things are only true if they benefit humanity

Never understood the following of him. Signed up for his second year psych class at U of T 5 years ago. First class he rambled on about St. George then showed us the "Be Prepared" scene from Lion King and talked about how Scar represents Hitler. Dropped the course after that mess.

Why do you assume a correspondence theory of truth?

"I'm a real boy now. The Blue Fairy made it so.
Call me Pinocchio.

Here are pictures of me in my clean, empty house showcasing

EVERY !!!

MOTHERFUCKING !!!

ROOM !!!

in the backround!"

this man is a goddamn hero and if you can't see that you're a fool

because every experience we have as conscious beings revolves around our biology.

Also when I worked in the psych department he was buying Adderall 25mg off his undergrads for 8 bucks a pill.

Pragmatic/Darwinian truth is probably the most appropriate way to think about the world in order to not go insane/live, but I feel a bit sad knowing that there are some things we just won't ever know with 100% certainty (except maybe a modified version of the cogito)

Sounds like good plan, when are you going to get started?

watch some of his student lectures.

he's like every other lecturer in that he tries to crack jokes and get his students to laugh.

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Peterson's theory not mine

I don't get it tbqh

you don't say
how many genders are you, xir?

I thought he was autistic, but in other videos and interviews, I've seen he him act normal, laugh, and joke. He only seems autistic with SJW faggots, being in the belly of the beast at University of Toronto.

i emailed jordan peterson cuz i had a neurological disorder caused by a psych condition and he literally ended his email with "sort yourself out"

>In the Paranoid Schnizophrenic Substype, delusions are persecutory and/or grandiose, but in addition to these, other themes such as jealousy, religiosity, or somatization may also be present.

He's not nuts, it really is a crime for him to not call it 'her dick' in canada. He refuses to call it a feminine penis and will be fined if he calls it male penis.

They are insane.

His shit is kinda interesting, watched his video on how nazism can be explained and was left a bit disappointed. I consider myself somewhat interested in national socialism and wanted to find out why, but the it did not give me answers. Even though I think I have high disgust level to actions of people, but I have lower disgust to other things that people would find disgusting.

He was frustrated as fuck. He was trying to have a genuine conversation and all the SJW could do was parrot back a bunch of empty rhetoric. Its really sad because he stresses the importance of open dialogue to resolve disagreements and those on the authoritarian left will not listen.

tfw her dick
tfw his abortion
tfw xir's genders

>if someone doesn't live in blissful ignorance of the world's problems like I do then they're mentally deranged

No son

YOU'RE mentally deranged

I wasn't talking about his issues with the gender stuff, I'm talking about his belief that he's an incarnation of the Frog Gods and that Jungian (who also had a messianic psychotic mid-life crisis) insistence that archetypes are anything more than just sociological patterns

If I recall my AP psychology course, a "trend" is defined as falling within 70% probability. Thus I found it odd when he mentioned the conscientiousness/openness dichotomy and compared it to conservatism/liberalism respectively. One of his arguments was that artistic ability is correlated with openness, and while there may be such a correlation I found that this did not apply to my personal experience as a musician. The same might be applied to you, as you're likely considered an "outlier" to the 70% trend.

Let me just plant a flag here.

>I'm talking about his belief that he's an incarnation of the Frog Gods

I have only watched a few of his undergrad lectures, he does not seriously think he is an actual god, does he? His analysis of pepe was excellent but I didn't think it went beyond that

When did he say that? He said that the tribe that gave him the hat told him something along those lines. He doesn't necessarily believe he's a Kek clone.

You're such a fibber

Only retarded country bumpkins sort things out.

did they ever continue the conversation or is sam harris still too butthurt about someone having different ideas about truth?

Not gonna lie, former Trump voter here. This is fucking hilarious watching Trump crash and burn. But in all seriousness we can't let this guy get the nuclear codes.

If you want a simpler version of Jordan dont read Nietzsche or Jung because they are hard to understand.

Read Mircea Eliade.

Jordan argues that our civilisation has blown the metaphysical and moral foundations of our society, and ideological possession that subsumes the Individual is dangerous on either spectrum of left or right.


The most difficult pill to swallow from him, especially for edgy atheists, is the simple argument that alongside a technological evolution, mankind has been experiencing a Moral evolution as well. Religions and Myths, art novels books and movies that respect the Grand Archetypes are a source of Moral Truth that cant be apprehended by a rational approach.

I believe Mircea Eliade teaches this in a more clear way than him, despite Jordan efforsts to put fucking pinocchio and lion king as examples to our shitty generation.

They're planning a second convo.

That does it, I'm Famm with Sam now!

Is it gay to leave peterson lectures on when you fap to porn? I mean just the audio.

find it

Jung is difficult but I find his writing beautiful, not exactly poetic but very nice once you get the hang of it. I am working my way through archetypes and the collective unconscious at the moment and its fantastic.

Thanks for the recommendation. I'll check him out.

Do I go buy beer tonight lads? I might have a problem

Let's unpack the idea of famm.

That's like listening to an AA meeting while on a bender.

>a source of Moral Truth that cant be apprehended by a rational approach.
why not?

rational approach put men on the moon.

Would future you want present you to buy beer?

>Implying we went to the moon

As it created Arrows and later Missiles as well. But I guess the intention behind both are the same.


I am not saying Reason is useless.

Going to the moon is not a Moral Truth.

I admit I could be duped into beoieving we went. I believe we went and that I could have been fooled.

Maybe, but the thing is that self diagnosing is like reading horoscope. I can't tell if I am bullshiting myself with finding similarities or not

>If you want a simpler version of Jordan dont read Nietzsche or Jung because they are hard to understand.
I feel like I don't belong here. I have not read any philosophy in my life, maybe ill start, but I am a lazy fucking faggot.
>Jordan argues that our civilisation has blown the metaphysical and moral foundations of our society
>Jordan argues that our civilisation has blown the metaphysical and moral foundations of our society
I understand, but its seems to me that Nazis and far right wing as at least some appreciation for these moral foundations. I also don't understand his stand on tribalism.
Because it also build hydrogen bomb, a thing that can wipe us out

>>a source of Moral Truth that cant be apprehended by a rational approach.
>why not?

better yet, any source of Moral Truth that is arrived through societal collaboration, experimentation, and documentation is inherently a scientific endeavor

Because we can't know everything so knowledge must have a value structure, what better value than self preservation?

>Mircea Eliade
What about Joseph Campbell? I think Peterson says that he took Jung's ideas into pop or new age religion, but it's still the same basic idea: 'Even Star Wars is a continuation of old myths.'

Still interesting stuff and may be easier to grasp for people not into philosophy.

>implying
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He's just very stressed

My sides. I do that as well.

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he was just honoring his ancestors

can you say the same for yourself?

There are no moral truths.

Morality is a contract between men. We agree to it because the alternative is more dangerous.

t. Hobbes

Try and ague against me - PROTIP: you can't

in fact theres something quite immoral about wasting precious resources on political maneuvering. there may be a case that gathering moon rocks was a positive thing but honestly i see no reason why we had to put human beings on the moon.

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Dolphin porn?

Would morals exist in a world with only one man?

has Star Wars made our society any better

how has Peterson demonstrated a metric for comparing how the mythological foundations of a culture help it for better or for worse, rather than just saying post-facto WELL ITS ABOUT SURVIVAL to the cultures that just happened to survive

As Scott Adams said: what we think is rational is just rationalization of the irrational.
Yes, math got people to the Moon, but what was the entire point of doing so? What pushed us to get to the moon? Why have we not used it as a stepping stone, but instead a goal?

Yeah, he's very cerebral. And to be fair, the forced humour in most of our daily interactions are really unnatural. In most cases they are covering up anxieties.

Going to the moon is like building a beautiful cathedral. Its not a waste of resources because it is good for the soul of the nation, it binds the people together, it was a man made miracle.

isnt it fucked up that being a normal person is rapidly becoming a 'mental illness'?

>good for the soul of the nation
are you some sort of hippie? they did it to beat the commies.

>kike focuses on inane semantics instead of having a real conversation

Sam is a loser

>We agree to it because the alternative is more dangerous.

We agree because we give it Meaning.

Your nihilism is dangerous.

This.

Precisely, so what?

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He does not understand fascism or communism. He basically just resorts to the 'it's violent' argument.

There's even a deep contradiction there because he argues, basically, against psychological decadence for sacrificial meaning. And one of the positive aspects of communism and fascism over democracy is that they attempt to reintroduce sacrifice and meaning into the modern world.

But he still makes interesting arguments regarding psychology and spirituality in the modern world.

Yes and in the process it gave the people of the US a point of pride. It helped craft a positive vision of the future. In a world where religion on the decline the moonshot was a huge miracle made manifest. It was humanities triumph over nature and god and at the same time served as part of the process of constructing a replacement for god.

or something like that, that is the argument I would make as to why it was not a waste of resources

He's a bit autistic but he bravely trashes Islam. Pretty good lad desu.

>And one of the positive aspects of communism and fascism over democracy is that they attempt to reintroduce sacrifice and meaning into the modern world.

That's like saying that one of the positive aspects of killing yourself is that you don't itchy anymore. You think you're making a good argument but you aren't.

don't get itchy*

>messianic psychotic mid-life crisis

ha haa ha hahahaha

>they attempt to reintroduce sacrifice and meaning into the modern world.

That is the purpose of religion. Any authoritarian ideology is a poor substitute that only will cause huge amounts of human suffering because it attempts to simplify and rationalize a world that can't be understood as such.

Why do you think hitler was so interested in the occult. He was trying to create a mythic narrative for his people because he knew the state alone would not be enough to unite the people, at best it could subjugate them