Give me a single reason as to why you aren't a Communist.
Give me a single reason as to why you aren't a Communist
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Communism is evil
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>Jewish Bolshevism that murdered millions of Christians
Literally the absolute opposite of what I want.
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I have a communist officers hat from the 1940s, more a collectors piece though
Commies fall into the trap of all utopian ideologies: human nature.
and now you have Bannon as the dark cardinal
>millions
it was gorillions actually
Venezuela
Soviets
Faggots like you
I have more but I'll just sage your slide thread with these
>Give me a single reason as to why you aren't a Communist.
I grew up in communist Poland in the 80s.
Communism is shit.
I don't like my stuff being taken away.
Christians have murdered themselves en masse throughout history before even Capitalism was a thing.
The change happened alright.
But hope evaporated rather quickly...
I don't like sharing.
its always the homosexuals with all the luxuries they want who live in the first world who praise communism.
yet they would never live in cuba, venezuela, or north korea for a weekend
Because it doesn't work
Inequality is innate in our reality, we do the most basic things to overcome inequality.
Communism doesn't work for the same reason Human Instrumentality doesn't work.
This isn't even addressing the more on the ground reasons why it doesn't work.
Because I work hard to earn my shit and cock sucking sperm chugging faggot leafs like you wanna steal my hard earned shit because you are too lazy to work hard and earn your own shit.
Literally, kill yourself.
I have a three digit IQ.
I forgot the great luxurious conditions the bolshevik's were living in when they rebelled, same with the Vietnamese or the Cubans. I wouldn't talk ill of Cuba either considering it's a better place to live than your country.
Because I like most people realized it would never work in the 8th grade and grew the fuck up.
I'm not that stupid.
So you actively support working for your boss who takes the majority of your share of labor for himself despite not contributing anything to the labor process himself? You support the government stealing the products of your labor and pay themselves fat salaries and pensions? Or do you support the austerity measures taken in 2009?
For us in Russia, communism is a dead dog, while, for many people in the West, it is still a living lion.
So does the majority of the western world.
Because I'm Cuban-American
Because leftists are annoying and I don't hang out with people I don't like.
because it's based on fascism.
because I like local governance and Poles like their local authorities, so taking them away by communist centralism, would spark protests
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Been there, done that, it doesn't work. It is in fact shit.
You described communism. Communism is all about perpetually working for nothing while the state sucks you dry and then throws you away.
and so the majority of the western world is not communist
How do you deal with that the majority of Cuban's mourned his loss in your country?
epik meme dood! XDD!!
He described capitalism too.
Communists were just the proto-globalists of today. People don't realize that all ideology is just a tool or a weapon in the hands of somebody who knows things you don't - the objective has always been control of wealth, currency and information . It has been that way since before the birth of Christ
So, why the fuck would I be a communist any more than I would drive a Ford Model T to work
communism is a pretty shit meme
>So you actively support working for your boss who takes the majority of your share of labor for himself despite not contributing anything to the labor process himself?
Okay I am willing to believe that if you can provide evidence for that. Something tells me you wont. You make out bosses or just owners of businesses to be like these lazy evil villains who do nothing but steal. Do you have any idea how hard it must be to be a boss? The responsibilities, the knowledge that is needed to run a fucking big business?
Then why are you so afraid of "cultural marxism," and communism uprooting the west? Why does the majority of the youth prefer socialism over this system right now?
No, I described Capitalism, people are alienated from their labor and their relationship to society, people only confront each other as commodities in the market and the power of the worker is reduced to an atomized individual alienated from society. Communism is a purely stateless society that will achieve itself when Capitalism has fully withered away.
because hammers and sickles are gay
>Then why are you so afraid of "cultural marxism," and communism uprooting the west?
I'm not
>Why does the majority of the youth prefer socialism over this system right now?
Because they are youth
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This debate's been done to death decades ago
sage all commie threads
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I believe in incentives and hard work
neither are necessary in communism
also its jewy as fuck
>oy vey goy do this work we are counting on you but we don't compensate for it because everything is free just stand in this line :^)
>implying socialism or communism will work in a society with people who don't want to work
Because im christian.
>Then why are you so afraid of "cultural marxism,"
We are not afraid of it, we fucking hate it because it is destroying the foundations in which Western civilization was built on.
>Why does the majority of the youth prefer socialism over this system right now?
Because a majority of children these days are spoiled selfish entitled little turds who were always told how what special little snowflakes they are and have never done a hard days work in their fucking life and so they think they are entitled to get free shit.
I'm white.
I'm not a retard.
>The responsibilities, the knowledge that is needed to run a fucking big business?
These responsibilities are delegated to employees, and other members working in administration. The amount of money you receive in pay isn't proportional to the labor you put. The stock market is a perfect example of this as all goals are sacrificed for the sake of short-term profit in order to ensure dividends are paid to the shareholders. The people who you think have the responsibilities of your boss are largely the industrial engineers, and administrators. I never made the claim all bosses are lazy, just that they're largely unnecessary and counter-productive.
If you want proof, I can give an easy logical exercise. Why would your boss pay you more than what is necessary for your subsistence if he couldn't get away with it? Workers rights that a large part of the western world takes for granted are being corroded away as the rate of profit continually decreases due to the nature of capitalism requiring an infinite amount of growth and accumulation in a market of finite space and resources.
You left Cuba.
Because it's literally the dumbest economic system ever conceived by humans.
I'd elaborate but you only asked for one reason.
dont want to die of hunger or by gulag
I'm not 12 and edgy.
I'm not a degenerate parasite.
>we should choose an ideology that kills even more christians in a shorter time to profit Jews
Yea, you can fuck off
also
>a fucking leaf
capitalism lets you choose to retire if you make money and innovate. Communism leaves you with nothing.
I am Russian, I had enough communism.
>The amount of money you receive in pay isn't proportional to the labor you put.
I get the feeling that you are one of these retards who thinks flipping burgers warrants a $20/hr salary.
I literally never made that point, hating an ideology because a group of people were persecuted under it isn't a valid reason when the ideology you support does the same exact thing.
I'm not a first world man-baby with a useless degree, parasitising off the government.
>These responsibilities are delegated to employees, and other members working in administration.
No they aren't. If they have the knowledge and skill to run a business then they should run their own. If they don't they they should either go to college and get it or work for someone who already has.
>The amount of money you receive in pay isn't proportional to the labor you put.
Nor should it be. It is proportional to the value of the labor you provide.
Not really because the compensation for an individuals labor would be agreed upon in the workplace before hand. I largely don't see a reason why people are so against having people being paid a livable wage for their labor.
>I literally never made that point, hating an ideology because a group of people were persecuted under it isn't a valid reason when the ideology you support does the same exact thing.
Massive context denial. Show me where tens of millions of americans died under capitalism
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I'm not retarded
>No they aren't. If they have the knowledge and skill to run a business then they should run their own.
But that isn't enough to run a business, you still need the capital, PR, and marketing in order to run a business, and this is all before the state regulations that get slapped on you that can potentially delay you significantly.
>Nor should it be. It is proportional to the value of the labor you provide.
So which is it, who deserves to be paid more, the writer and engineer, or the businessman and marketer?
Because even in the middle of shitfest that is modern capitalist Russia I have never had to wait in line to buy a fucking gallon of milk like my father had.
Well, maybe if businesses weren't being strangled to death by government regulations and taxes and progressive shits like you supporting illegal immigration (thus driving our wages low to begin with) maybe burger flipping can warrant a livable wage.
Because communism is just when the government enslaves you and fucks your wife. Besides, I got a good enough relationship with my boss right now. He says if I eat his shit every day for the next few decades I might just become a great big man like him some day. Not that I'm complaining, his shit tastes great.
I was once. My entire family died.
le bunker man?
Commies are the biggest fucking fags. I know its ad hom, but I've never seen a communist who didn't sound like an emasculated sissy fag
>biggest commie meme page is called "Sassy socialist memes"
>unironically using the word sassy
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because i dont like long lines at empty grocery stores
I'm normal. That's why I'm not a Commie.
Because i dont want to end in prison because of a single joke.
We owned the area where the city municipality now is. My clan didn't want to give it to Bunkerman so he had them branded Ftontists and working for the Yugos. The heads were put in prison and the land taken by the state.
>Well, maybe if businesses weren't being strangled to death by government regulations and taxes and progressive shits like you supporting illegal immigration (thus driving our wages low to begin with) maybe burger flipping can warrant a livable wage.
Why do you think I'm automatically doing all those things? Wages being driven down is going to happen regardless of the artificial inflation of labor thanks to immigrants, welcome to the future of automation.
I'm a greedy bastard
>But that isn't enough to run a business, you still need the capital, PR, and marketing in order to run a business
All of these can be gained through knowledge, skill, and bank loan.
>So which is it, who deserves to be paid more, the writer and engineer, or the businessman and marketer?
Determined by the writer, engineer, businessman, marketer, and free market (ie. the people). The person with the most leverage (ie. most valuable labour) is the one who can most easily get the most out of the deal. This is why two writers can be worth two diffrent amounts in capitalism as opposed to communism where they are treated equally despite the quality and value of their work.
I remember male line of my family being stripped of their apartment, drawings my ancestor drew, all money and forced to fight in war against greatest leader of 20 century.
I remember female line of my family almost dying of hunger, losing half of their brothers and sisters and my elder grandfather thinking days as an arbeiter in Germany are best days of his life.
I see old teachers in my university shutting down all real discussion and bullying students who are anti-Marxist on exams.
>before capitalism was a thing
>The person with the most leverage (ie. most valuable labour) is the one who can most easily get the most out of the deal
And this is predominantly determined by factors that exist outside of this process, i.e. the person with the most amount of capital or shares will determine who is compensated the most. The people don't have a say in such a top-down system, because for starters, the majority of the common persons pay is being spent on basic necessities like rent, energy bills, and food; not on the large bulk of demand that makes up the economy, which is what the capitalist owns.
> This is why two writers can be worth two diffrent amounts in capitalism as opposed to communism where they are treated equally despite the quality and value of their work.
This is because communism doesn't operate on the same system of social organization as capitalism does, the advancements in technology and engineering have gotten rid of the large need for producing this artificial system of competition inside the economy.
This.
>not contributing anything to the labor process himself
You mean other than the literal means of production like maybe a fucking company to work at in the first place?
Your labor is worthless without the institutions and machines magnifying it
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Not gonna lie, former Marxist here. It's fucking hilarious watching every attempt at communism crash and burn. But in all seriousness we can't let the proletariat get their hands on the means of production.
I graduated University and got a job?
The Gulag Archipelago - Alexsandr Solzhenitsyn
Also, its very ironic to ask this question today, because on the 1st of february 1945, the commies started killing the bulgarian intellectual class, military officers and political dissidents in the so-called "People's court".
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>And this is predominantly determined by factors that exist outside of this process, i.e. the person with the most amount of capital or shares will determine who is compensated the most. The people don't have a say in such a top-down system, because
because they arent providing jobs. Which make them more easily replacable. You even said this in your post "not on the large bulk of demand that makes up the economy, which is what the capitalist owns."
These factors are 100% in their control assuming they are phyically and mentally well. You get money through work. Unless you inherit it, which means your parents worked for it and are free to give it to whomever they choose.
>technology and engineering have gotten rid of the large need for producing this artificial system of competition inside the economy.
No they haven't, otherwise employers would never hire any workers since technology would be cheaper and more efficient. Employees are the ones who are needed to create the technology in the first place.
>artificial system of competition inside the economy.
Aka compromise. And obviously technology hasn't gotten rid of the employment system. No "bougie" will give away money without expecting something in return.
>Unless you inherit it, which means your parents worked for it and are free to give it to whomever they choose.
I would like to add that many people who inherit wealth also worked for it. It's not uncommon that heirs work in the businesses of their parents and thus have already taken part in creating the wealth they ultimately inherit.
Jewish cancer, nuff said