>70% of Men Aged 20-34 Are Not Married
>Far too many young men have failed to make a normal progression into adult roles of responsibility and self-sufficiency, roles generally associated with marriage and fatherhood
>The high percentage of bachelors means bleak prospects for millions of young women who dream about a wedding day that may never come.
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So Sup Forums, why are you still an unmarried man-child?
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Moved out of my parents house when I was 18, roommated with 2 friends while going to college and worked part time.
After I finished college, got a job, moved out from roommates, put a down payment on a small house a couple years later, been working and paying off my mortgage ever since. 30 years old now, have a girlfriend but no interest of ever getting married. Not sure if I want children either, probably not.
Because 99% of western women are shit and not in any way desirable.
Its really hard to start a family on 7.50 an hour.
But I am married.
Married, had 2 blonde haired, blue eyed kids and divorced that psycho bitch all before 34. Now I have trust issues.
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In July 1968 four pairs of mice were introduced into the habitat. There was no shortage of food or water or nesting material. There were no predators.
The last surviving birth was on day 600, bringing the total population to a mere 2200 mice... This period between day 315 and day 600 saw a breakdown in social structure and in normal social behavior. Among the aberrations in behavior were the following: expulsion of young before weaning was complete, wounding of young, increase in homosexual behavior, inability of dominant males to maintain the defense of their territory and females, aggressive behavior of females, passivity of non-dominant males with increased attacks on each other which were not defended against. After day 600, the social breakdown continued and the population declined toward extinction. Their male counterparts withdrew completely, never engaging in courtship or fighting. They ate, drank, slept, and groomed themselves – all solitary pursuits. Sleek, healthy coats and an absence of scars characterized these males. They were dubbed "the beautiful ones." Breeding never resumed and behavior patterns were permanently changed.
...when all available space is taken and all social roles filled, competition and the stresses experienced by the individuals will result in a total breakdown in complex social behaviors, ultimately resulting in the demise of the population.
Calhoun saw the fate of the population of mice as a metaphor for the potential fate of man. He characterized the social breakdown as a "second death,” with reference to the “second death” mentioned in the Biblical book of Revelation 2:11. His study has been cited by writers such as Bill Perkins as a warning of the dangers of the living in an "increasingly crowded and impersonal world."
>Breeding never resumed
Absolutely this
Unfettered woman with no restrictions are a fucking nightmare...
>women compete to fuck 20% of men, the handsome + rich ones
>ride the cock carousel for 10 or 15 years
>some of them settle for just the very rich men with a little infidelity on the side
>standards fall as their looks fade and their STD count climbs
>still list partying and vodka as interested on their increasing number of online dating profiles
>the ones that haven't popped out a kid or two might capture some poor shmuck to give them some financial security
somehow it is men's fault
Fuck women my age and I am 22. Fuck divorce laws today. If Trump wants to make American great again, he should significantly change divorce laws. Or I can go expat and marry a tween.
This, Growing up like me you learn how easy most of them are.
And iam not gonna invest in used up secondhand material hell no.
Rather die than to do that.
We are the Beautiful Ones Sup Forums
Hey man, I've been there. For the longest time I used this excuse in my head, but once I learned that that was just a defense mechanism I was using, I cleaned up my hygiene and started talking to girls. I'm now engaged, so yeah. try it sometime user, you could meet a wonderful woman.
>No companies are hiring
>Houses cost literally millions
>Girls are whores who will divorce you
>They also want to be treated better than Queens of the past, go flying across the world every month, visit every country in the world
>They don't want kids and they don't wanna do chores in the home
>Government thinks we "need more people" but instead of encouraging us to breed they import mudfolk by the literal thousands
>tfw planning to marry my qt vietnamese gf
You guys can "save the white race" with your roastie white wives, but once she's popped out a few kids you know she'll have no further use for you and will cuck you with tyrone before divorcing your dumb ass, taking all the house, kids, and alimoney.
>women ruins marriage by using it as a way to make money out of the man
>man just completely block the idea of marriage since we have no power in the juridical system regarding divorce
>hurr durr why am I alone?
They played themselves.
Marriage as literally no purpose for someone who isn't religious.
>UK divorce laws are biased towards women entirely
>UK lacks clear and effective co-habitation laws
The logic is that if co-habitation laws are equal to Marrige laws then it introduces a whole bag of cases that's too much effort, and that the government wants you to get married, it's a better more stable system.
Also lads if you wanna live with a girl and not be married get on this
>Buy a house
>Make sure she's not on the mortgage document
>Pay the mortgage payments yourself, forever
>Tell her not to worry, just pay the bills, water, electricity etc
If you break up, even after 50+ years she gets fuck all of the house unless she can prove she did "actions to her own detriment" which doesn't include cooking, cleaning and raising kids Generally it involves manual labour such as building, demolishing and dangerous maintainence.
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someone post the archive image of aussie posting this same thing with the same text once a week
Some one has finally said the truth. God fucking bless you brother
30+ yr old landwhale detected
Because I'm autistic and I refuse to pass my broken genes.
I've been with my gf for 8 years and she's not interested in marriage nor any dick but mine
Instead of blowing tens of thousands on a retarded wedding ceremony we instead used that money for house deposit and to go on nice holidays
Ah, to be functioning human beings who don't need constant validation to continue living
>have nothing
>woman files for divorce because
>takes half of my nothing
>is 9/10 times more likely to get custody over potential children even if they're a jobless druggie
Fpbp
Seriously this, you get married, but the thing is, she is still a slut and there are no breaks on the dicktrain, so you drop her out but the Law makes it so that she get away with your Kids (if you have any), your cash and half of your other stuff.
Maybe women should stop begin sluts
Right on. East asian women are sometimes much more red pilled.I don't mean asian-americans. I mean actual Chinese from China and so on.
Why would I pay full price for a used car with 250,000 miles on it that had been used and abused by 20 previous owners?
>Marriage as literally no purpose for someone who isn't religious.
Christcucks ruin everything again.
Congrats, you are the 30%. The girls don't even look nor talk with us.
>Not paying women for having cunts
Ya some kond of misoggynist?
>probably not
I will never understand the increasingly popular desire for genetic suicide. The whole reason we grow up is to pass on our genes then die, your dna is screaming fuck you.
Being with someone feels great and everything but I can't find any girls I would trust enough to have a prolonged thing with.
“And it’s doubly terrible because the colleges now are predominantly female. So you have some – up to 60 percent of the student bodies are female. And almost all of them are more than 50 percent female. And so the ratio [of] male/female is out of sync.
“And that means the girls have to live by the guys’ demands. And that means less romance. They don’t date. The girls, I have talked to numerous young women, lament the fact that they don’t have the opportunity to dress up and go out for an event.”
> bleak prospects for millions of young women who dream about a wedding day that may never come.
How are prospects bleak? Women are basically married to the government now. With WIC, alimony, child support, food stamps, head start, and public schooling, what do women need a husband for? The government is their provider now.
They fell for the "racemixing is bad" meme
Non-white girl will treat you much better than a roastie
Maybe it's natural selection. nu-males (without the pejorative connotation) might die out.
I am 24 and I have a qt asian girlfriend. The reason why we're not married is because there's no stability yet. I stuggle to find a job with the degree that I got. I am going back to university this year to get a master's degree to increase my chances of having a decent career and graduated by 27 years old minimum if I'm lucky.
Men (should) have extremely high standards when it comes a woman to marry. A lot of them saw their dads get assfucked by divorce growing up so if they don't have 100 percent confidence in her, they won't marry.
Also you can fuck, have kids and do all of the normal relationship shit while not being married. So whats the damn point of getting married to some skank you met in your mid twenties.
If you want to get married, find a good girl, they are really fucking rare, find her young, still a virgin and hold onto her for dear life. If you are already 24+ you have no chance of marrying a good girl. They get swooped up before 20.
Beta males deserve to commit genetic suicide
They are the trash genes left over from most of the strong fighting men dying in WW2
I'm MGTOW and love the man-child life. My sheckels are safe from the skypes.
That's what I'm saying. It really is a sad living sleeping around and not forming any actual real connections; but the risks of marriage and commitment outweigh the actual benefits at this point. Hopefully we'll get artificial wombs in our lifetime so I can have white babies without the female involved.
This.
Cant wait for the downfall of society
80% of women go for the top 20% of men, look at dating site statistics. 80% of men are rated "below average" by women, while there's a near perfect 50/50 when men rate women.
Sexual liberation has made it so women in act their preferred sexual strategy of hypergamy, that's why they bang the "alphas" with the best genes all throughout their prime, then settle down with a beta, low T guy when it's finally time to have a kid.
In a perfect world for women, and it's a reason why a lot of them do this, they would get knocked up by an alpha guy in their breeding years, then settle down with a beta guy to help raise it.
Men are saying fuck all of this and never settling down with these whores who treated them like shit until they hit the wall.
Because I'm in the military and fuck getting cucked when I'm overseas.
I'm 37, married 11 years to the same girl I've been with since I was 18, got 4 beautiful kids (No, Don't even say it you fucker, yeah I'm talkin to you), Got a decent job, making "enough" to get by, pretty much happy (even though I'm still here)
Got 4 younger brothers. No different to me in terms of looks, intelligence, personality - They have NOTHING! Shit or no jobs, can't get or maintain a relationship, no want or hope for kids. But I don't fucking get it! Their friends that are the same age are nearly all the same. What the fuck happened to 80s and 90s kids. All my old friends the same age or older got on the boat, every one younger is a fucking mess.
Because I am super autistic about sexual purity and almost every woman in my country has been fucked multiple times before the age of 16.
Because there are no white women left in my city and I refuse to racemix
While this is true, it means engaging in nigger behavior of hit and running. Not many cultural circles look at men with multiple partners with children highly. You have to enter the top percentage of society to do so with little repercussions.
I don't believe on marriage, or having children
I will never understand how people can go for 3D. If I can't be with a girl at least as cute as this, I'm perfectly happy to stay a virgin until I die. Don't you realize that if you settle for an ugly 3D girl, that's all you'll ever have? You won't ever do any better and you'll spend the rest of your life with an annoying bitch. You'll never know what it's like to enjoy every day with a cute young girl who looks up to you and genuinely loves you.
I'd rather stay isolated in blissful delusion and comfily enjoy my hobbies in my free time.
>millions of young women who dream about a wedding day that may never come.
Amazing how they still manage to frame this as a women's problem.
You sound poor and ugly. I know 10+ couples who think and talk like you, and they are all poor and ugly
How often do you have sex? Once a month?
it's the laws that hold many men back...here in my state it's total fair and the child can decide after diforce if they want to live with daddy or mommy and the person who earned more money has to pay the other person.. but in states where the mother always win and take 50% of the stuff naah m8 fuck that
Exactly, sleeping around doesn't fill the void too well but every time I get tired of it and look for something more I realize that I'd just be self destructing by getting in a relationship with any of these girls.
You'll probably get cucked, but don't you get more money? For housing and whatnot.
You can have both you know.
This.
Even women know what they are, but only when it's too late.
I grew up watching my classmates' parents getting divorced left and right, some kids didn't knew which house they would sleep at night. In High School they had to make an exception on cellphone bans due to this. I was even bullied due to having a stable family. Now I work at a school and things are even worse. So excuse me for not believing in marriage.
Yep I could move out of the dorms into a nice house but it's not worth it to me. And you get a decent amount of extra pay and if they can't live with you you get separation pay etc. But i refuse to be a cuck. Job is already stressful af.
fucking bait. you know it's the inevitable result of the state colluding with women. the only thing my fellow brothers did was give them the vote. read a book m8.
Nah.
I think it is the fact that the economy was so good that everyone could reproduce after the war... that was the problem.
yeah give up 50% of my shit for a fuck sock
nah, the pornographic jew has me famalam
What branch are you in? Do you regret joining?
32 years old. I'm more focused on my career. I consider most single women I meet not to be marriage material.
If a woman is still single around my age or even a bit younger then there's probably a good reason.
Regardless of whether or not she contributed towards the house financially or physically don't the courts award her the same rights as a wife if she's lived under your roof for X number of years? Some US states have that law, does it apply in the UK too?
That's what it's fucken about, right there!
Bring the patriarchy back, the real patriarchy. For fuck's sakes, someone do something about all these raging cunts.
>meet woman
>find out she is a slut
>lose interest
every single time for 4 years
Sometimes I really want to find a woman and begin a family. Then I remember the redpill of when I learned what women ACTUALLY respond to (being a sociopath, effectively) then I get depressed and shitpost.
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I'm a lonely kissless hugless handholdless neckbeard virgin NEET, but every single last day I go to work as a programmer, my life choice is validated just a little more.
>Boss hires two women to meet diversity quotas
>Neither can program goddamn anything
>They can't even write simple HTML for websites or JavaScript or fucking Java
>Constantly on their phones (TALKING LOUDLY WITHOUT LEAVING THE ROOM) and facebook (CONSTANTLY AUDIBLY PINGING WHENEVER THEY RECEIVE A MESSAGE OR WHATEVER)
>When not on their phones or on facebook they are pestering actual developers to "help" them i.e. do their work for them
>They get paid the same amount I do, despite not even doing a quarter of the work I do, not to mention doing (and failing to do) far easier front-end shit while I write complex C/C++ programs
>One of them is a single mother with a black kid that's always moaning about how she "CAN'T FIND A GOOD MAN"
>Acts like a complete bitch to EVERYONE
>Speaks ill of people behind their backs
>Has probably spoken ill of me behind my back
>Has brought her nigger kid to work a few times before
>The other is a """FEMINIST""" that's always bitching to our boss about how """SEXIST""" work conditions are
>"WOW OUR LEAD DEVELOPER THAT WAS BUSY DOING IMPORTANT SHIT THAT COULDN'T WAIT DIDN'T IMMEDIATELY HELP ME SOLVE THE TRIVIAL PROBLEM YOU HIRED ME TO SOLVE FUCKING DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS!"
>Constantly tells cuck boss that if she were in charge she'd fire people
>While those people are in the room
>Despite being the newest and worst member of the team
>And the boss naturally agress with her
>Then goes on to bitch about her boyfriend for half the day instead of working, demanding at least one of us to listen to her or she'll start insulting people
Like holy SHIT, I want to believe not all women are like this, that it's just women pretending to be programmers, but these two are fucking AWFUL and I've heard nothing but similar stories of the other companies working in the same building.
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>inb4
Air Force linguist.
No because it pays my bills, I've literally became 100x better person than before, and I am paid to learn korean and travel there for free. It's been a good first 13 months so far.
This, give me a virgin waifu or fuck off.
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i asked desu boy that was dumb lel
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Ya I do get that. The fact that I somehow exist through countless generations since the beginning of mankind, that I'm alive today is a miracle in itself.
That said the idea of passing on the genes just doesn't seem particularly important or noble to me in any meaningful way. It's kind of like "so what?" I pass on my genes or I don't, what will it really matter?
I don't believe in an afterlife and I know that historically civilizations rise and collapse so even if my child (or children) turned out to be hugely influential people in modern times, it probably wouldn't matter at all in ~500 years from now because at that point the entire global balance would have shifted, we might be colonizing Mars or some shit I mean it's just not something I can worry about one way or the other.
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>This.
>Cant wait for the downfall of society
are we seeing it now or do you believe it will take a long time?
>If you are already 24+ you have no chance of marrying a good girl.
Your chances are even better if you're 25 you dumb fuck. A man's value only starts to decline 35 - 45ish, depending on whether or not he's a complete fucking loser (like you, otherwise you wouldn't of picked such a low age).
Actually, given how women show their colors, I can't help wondering who's complaining. A lot of them are still making out like bandits. Is this some kind of ploy to shame mgtow and kissless virgins to keep trying to win over the impossible? Do they even know how many men hear no to LTRs and yes to a hook up? Do women totally lack self-awareness?
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Yes the economy is not ideal to have kids. And many young adults today are from broken families who tried for the american dream but failed.
TLDR: We need a war.
This, the whole travel mentality is fucking stupid.
I've dated a ton of girls who love spending a fuck ton on traveling all over the world, but if you asked them where Italy was on a map they wouldn't have a fucking clue.
Traveling is fun and all but these chicks don't get any real experience out of it cause they're too fucking dumb
Women have nothing left to offer but their physicality and dolls are just too damn good desu senpai.
>being married anytime before 25
truly a meme
because western women are expensive (both in real terms and in time as well)
> implying marriage is anything more than a one-way ticket to divorce court, alimony and child support payments, and likely false accusations of sexual or domestic violence
Because women are slutting it up. Even some who are in church are slutting it up.
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More like 40%.
Most men here are just cowards and are profoundly unmanly.
fuck off cunt
Women have just as much to blame as men when it comes to not taking on "adult roles". I'm sure females in their 30s with blue dyed hair, single and got the maturity level of 12 year olds isn't the reason why men are choosing to stay single as well as the retarded marriage system
On the other hand a girl I've been messing around with told me she doesn't want to lead me on. I feel blessed because I know the female instinct is to have backups. She's a good lass.
I've got ten years on you, and it's the same story.
>If a woman is still single around my age or even a bit younger then there's probably a good reason.
Exactly.
When women say they want to travel they mean they want to experience foreign dick consequence free.
>being married anytime before 25
unless you marry a girl 5+ years younger than you, all the good ones will be gone by 25. theres a reason all the marriages that last are the ones that got married the youngest.
> white guy in a country full of niggers
> after seeing bad cases in my family and friends dont have any plans of getting married.
> kids are expensive and dont want to raise a kid with a women that had the cock carousel for years
> after Sup Forums started to feel guilty over not passing on my white genes considering the white-genocide agenda by leftists
> after a boring medical process with nothing to gain in return I became a sperm donor
> might have dozens of kids out there and dont have to worry about any of them, cucks will raise them for me
> mfw I have passed on my genes and secured the existence of some white kids
they dont even hide that they are sluts, they really think people will be impressed, well good for me i can avoid them at least