>be me >Poor fag >Work 4 large Corp. 2 min drive from my house >One month vacation per year >Good health package >They pay for school if I want to go back >They match my 401k up to 6% >Many market holidays >Making $29K/yr >Taking calls all day. >Shit kind of sux, fampais >But the benefits are pretty sweet
Old HR mgr from old job calls me. Says she will pay me $30k/yr + $10k-$15k in bonuses. > Says I'll manage 16-20 phone CSR's Says no retirement package yet Heath Benefits are okay which means shit Says I only get 2 weeks of vacation per year New job is 14 miles away
I'm supposed to let her know by today. I trust you guys more than anyone, so help me make a life decison, polbros.
I'm sitting at my desk at current job, now. Ask me questions if I've forgotten anything important I should take into consideration.
Eli Ramirez
First!
Joshua Jones
>Call center
Poo in it
Jace Sanders
help this boy, bros!
Liam Phillips
can I have whichever job you don't take?
Mason Mitchell
Take the other job. I used to do call work. Not worth it famalam.
Joseph Ross
It all comes down to the reliability of those bonuses and how good of health you are in really.
Having bad health care really blows when you actually need a good dr.
Colton Davis
The devil you know is better than the devil you don't know. Stay in your current job
Dominic Bennett
Better the devil you know, OP
Sit tight, other opportunities will come along
Jonathan Davis
Dude, it seriously is bad. I think it's worse where I'm at though. I'm in the downtown area now so they're in abundance here.
The new place is in a nicer area but I saw more white trash whites while I was there.
Michael Russell
bad idea. stress is what you are paid for. sounds like the new job more than doubles your stress for not double the salary. instead find a job that maintains or lowers your current stress level for more more money
Elijah Morales
>poor >29k >mean USA income 21k
Check your privilege OP
Hudson Hernandez
Spooky. Anyway stay at your current job, That vacation and health care is invaluable.
William Sanders
You literally could not pay me enough to work in a call center again.
Let Pajeet & co. handle it.
Jordan Roberts
Well you need to monetize the benefits packages to get a proper idea of how much you're getting compensated fully in dollar amounts for each job. Based on the difference in vacation and health it'll probably even out if you get a 10k bonus, so the other gig may be more lucrative but that's just at a glance I don't know the worth of each benefit package.
Gavin Williams
So keep the old one? I'm currently taking 50-60 calls per day and it sux.
The new one, I'd be supervising. Taking probably 5-10 escalated calls per day.
Jaxon Watson
I'm in good health. So don't really mind the shit health package, but it's just that it's like 80 more per month
Xavier Perez
>2 min drive
stay where you are senpai.
if you need any evidence, try doing that 14 mile drive during rush hour on a day off, you'll quickly realize it's not worth it for bonuses you'll likely never get.
James Brooks
>instead find a job that maintains or lowers your current stress level for more more money Oh man the world is gonna hit you like a ton of bricks.
David Gutierrez
Keep the current job. Keep the 401k rolling, desu it's not what it seems when people say bonuses. The feds will rape most of it because fuck you. Which is why I think taxing bonuses is fucking gay as fucking fuck. You earned it yet the government has to pay itself on the back for your hard work too.
Levi Howard
Totally man. Dude just look up local companies that work in the financial industry. They need people like us to work their phones b/c they're filled to the brim with poos like other bro said.
Charles Stewart
stay where you are. benetit outweight the taxe you ll have pay, the fuel, the loss of vacation etc etc
Grayson Smith
>The new one, I'd be supervising
That sounds like you would be moving up the ladder when you put it that way. If its promotion its worth looking into never mind the measly salary increase if you feel up to the challenge
Ayden White
That's been my main concern. And I've only been here a yr. I get 5 weeks in 2 more yrs.
Nathan Ramirez
Never leave a job for less than a 20% raise.
Wyatt Hill
I agree. The first job seems better.
Justin Hughes
>2 min vs 14 miles >4 weeks vs 2 weeks >29k vs 30k (or 45k if you hit all your targets)
Well OP, I personally think it's not the most attractive offer. Then there's the fact that it sounds like it's some kind of 'start up' which could easily go bust, leaving you out of the job.
Sure, earning an extra 16k might be good, but it won't be easy. Managing other people could send your stress levels through the roof.
However, think of this as an opportunity to advance your career. If you have 2 years of managerial experience it could open a lot of doors.
If I were you I would probably phone her up and then say >I'll take it but I need a better health package (or something like that, just sell yourself a bit)
Mason Thompson
ask for more money, and as the other user said you would be climbing up the ladder
Carter Perry
Stay on your current job m8 and better reorganize the free time you have to do something interesting rather than scroll Sup Forums all the day.
Jose Brown
I get where he's coming from, but you're right. And to more responsibility doesn't always mean more stress. Tbh I think the new job will be less stress while I'm there, but I'll miss not having to wake up super early, not having to drive 20 min there and back every day. Etc
Bentley Evans
Stay in current job OP
Jacob Stewart
Keep the old, good luck bro.
Matthew Gomez
That's kind of the boat I'm in. Just had my annual review, but I won't knows what my increase is for prob another week. My mgr just said she's gonna come talk to me about it here in a min. Holy shit bros, what if she's in here!!
Grayson Roberts
29k, 30k?
You're getting paid very little. I would stay at your current job and look into learning a trade or moving out and up. Like some other user said, don't switch jobs unless it is at least a 20% increase in pay.
Jace Martinez
Why aren't you taking advantage of the schooling you lazy faggot? You should be all over that.
Nathaniel Evans
It can be pretty bad at certain ones desu. If you can prove that you're not a total fucking retard, it can be pretty chill. I'm literally on my dual screen 24in Monitors shitposting on Sup Forums and watching high castle in between calls.
John James
I'm torn. It's definitely a step up in responsibility. It's just the company is small and can't offer the good benefits that I get where I am currently.
I've done supervision before and it's pretty fucking chill. That's why she offered me the job actually. She was my hr mgr at my old old job
Ian Hall
Is the Bonus for sure or does it depend on your work Output and/or the companies Financial situation.
Eli Davis
Keep your current job, or tell old HR person that you want 1 month of vacation.
David Morgan
Seems like a good rule. Thanks man.
Aaron Nguyen
>Manager browses Sup Forums
Well you know what to do.
White only hire policy GET.
Chase Scott
Sounds like you need to tally up what you're willing to pay in terms of cash for that extra two weeks vacation, look at the amount of coverage side by side and see how much value you're losing there, ask yourself how much you value convenience in getting to work, and ask yourself if you want to go back to school (this is huge). If the final point is a yes, then I would say you need to stay where you're at and take advantage of it as soon as possible. Also, how long have you worked there and is there opportunity for advancement and raises? You need to ask that about the new job as well.
Wyatt Bell
Agreed, six percent match is phenomenal. Put as much as you can into that per year.
Though you're taxed heavily initially on bonuses, you do tend to get them back at the end of the year.
Noah Young
>the company is small
small company is not ideal but it depends whether its new and small or old stagnant and small. If its the latter I would stay away from it. If its small but new and growing well then its worth looking into.
Anyway given all the facts so far, I would stay in the current job. The prospect of advancement looks tantalizing but the the uncertainty and risk sounds too much.
Levi Barnes
Also, scrolled through the thread and saw that the new one is a lower stress job and a superviser position. Having that on your resume is a pretty big bonus towards your future. If you feel that you could be rehired by your current company without issue in the future, then I'd likely lean towards doing the superviser position for at least a few years and then consider going back but as superviser or management of some sort. You could then use their college program thing to get a degree and further yourself upwards. If you're already management and they invest in you, then you'd be in a good position.
Ayden Kelly
This thread made me think, should I take a spot as a credit fraud specialist? Be an office setting and make 2 dollars more than I do now.
Currently night manager at truck stop making 14/hr, pls no bully. Right now life is ez-ish because I go to school in the day, work all night, sleep till around 11 (just got up). But stress can be unmanageable at times.
Pls advise
Owen Fisher
Don't do it user.
The bonuses are a trap.
Nathan Carter
So it is a small but growing company. Def has potential to be big. They're actually trying to hire me BC they're expanding from 30 to 60 employez next month and I also have experience supervising centers I need their industry
Hunter Hill
Fuck yA, fampai. Been maxing that fucker out since day 1!
Christian Wilson
Dude I'd take that shit! Pretty sure that's a legit career if u want it to be.
Joshua Gomez
Ok. In that case I'd strongly consider the new job. Taking calculated risks isn't a bad idea. There is obviously risk in such a company because management can make mistakes and it can go under. Hopefully by then you would have added something to your resume.
One thing you will have to assess though is whether the company is a sham and that is only something you can do. From the way you describe it , doesn't look like it.
Jayden Kelly
Call center atmosphere doesn't put you off? I have school I wanted to keep doing (3 years left) so it wouldn't be permanent, but still.
I'll set least go for the interview. I can afford my community college pretty easily now but next year I have to be at state uni, extra money would be clutch
Daniel Adams
No man, it totally sucks, but I've done it for years. I supervised a large call center for 3 yrs under the Hr mgr that's currently offering me the new position. Supervision and management isn't that bad, but as a rep, it can be fucking grueling. And I hear you on uni tuition. They would pay for pretty much all of it should I decide to go back. I'm still so torn
Anthony Green
And as a fraud rep, it may not be that bad, man. Ask them about call volume and if you're doing outbound or inbound or both. And volume fur each.
Wyatt Parker
If they say its under 60 calls per day then I'd consider it. Anything over that is fucking slave work and it sucks. Literally your headset beeping in your ear every fucking time you think you have a min to relax. It's exhausting.
Evan Davis
I'll keep the call volume in mind. Right now my job is 100% customer service and the customers really aren't bad but it's overnight and people are always drunk and stealing and confronting you. This might be better.
I make roughly 500/week with the mandatory overtime, what's OT like at these places? Phone interview said full time to begin