Huhuhuh...

> Huhuhuh, anti-fa explicitly tell us that they are Communists and Anarchists but we'll continue to call them "fascists" because fascism is bad!
> And we'll continuously compare our opponents to the Nazis even although most of us would love to live in the type of society the German NatSocs created
> And all criticisms of our enemies will be based on the fact that they're not liberal enough, not philosemitic enough or hypocritical. "Muslims hate the gays/Muslims don't like Jews/Leftists don't support muh Israel!"
> Maybe if we just keep calling them intolerant and saying that they don't support free speech then they will stop punching us

God, these faggots are just as annoying as Leftists, honestly. At least in Britain those on the right have tacit sympathies for Hitler and fascism. In America, because most normie right-wingers are Jew-worshipping Christcucks, they swallow all of the propaganda.

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>antifa seriously believes they are not fascists

I agree some on the right are being stupid and always using "facism" and "Nazis" as bad labels instead of communists.

there are two types of fascists: fascists and anti-fascists

I read your post in PWJ voice

Its because unironic communists and anarchists and small in number and have no power. They're best used as useful idiots to delegitimize the liberal left by saying theyre the same people.

AHHH IT'S SINKING IN
OMG IT HURRRRRTS

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"Fascist" is not synonymous with totalitarian.

You can be a totalitarian and be a Leftist. Communist regimes have very little freedom. Communists are not fascists.

Does it seem strange that people are capable of suspending their beliefs so much that they blatantly contradict themselves this way?

What is that called? doublethink or something? How can people outside of the political loop look at these groups as anything more than radicalized communist zealots?

Good vid, should spread it

Stop misusing the term fascist, its triggering me. Neither of these groups deserce to be called fascist

Any pro trump people should just call antifags Nazis at any protest or rally. Don't refer to them as anything else. They'll lose their shit

go to Luton and hang out with your friends

Yeah, it's been a catch all term for "things I don't like" for a long time now.
A better word would be fag or retard.

>> Huhuhuh, anti-fa explicitly tell us that they are Communists and Anarchists but we'll continue to call them "fascists" because fascism is bad!
>> And we'll continuously compare our opponents to the Nazis even although most of us would love to live in the type of society the German NatSocs created

In this case the word "fascism" is being used a pejorative to describe their use of authoritarian violence. It's value comes from being able to show the similarities to what it they claim to oppose. Pulling out the academic definition because it's convenient is just dishonest.

It is just lazy horseshoe theory, but it does serve a purpose.

> Maybe if we just keep calling them intolerant and saying that they don't support free speech then they will stop punching us
Maybe if their opposition to free speech is adequately demonstrated, public opinion will turn against them to the point where the mainstream left must publicly disavow them. The government may also be able to take action against them too.

sage delete

antifa uses fascist tactics to make sure their anti fascist messages get heard.

Also its proof that rich people's stupid kids have no fucking sense of reality. "I got ran over for jumping on a guys car and hitting the windshield with my fists" victim card is hilarious.

theyre pathetic. they are in denial that all the liberal shit theyve been supporting has actually been just a cover for marxism. so they keep up the anti-fascist liberal talking points so their minds dont break for believing a lie for 30 years.

Calling them Fascists is retarded. These Marxists cause chaos and death. Fascism is a reaction to these criminals. The more people they attack the more people will be attracted to Fascism. This is exactly what they did in 1917 in Russia, again in 1918 in Germany early 30's in Germany. When they succeed in Russia they created the First USSR, not long after Stalin came to power and removed them because they were far too radical to control, and they had outlived their purpose. Germany watching this defeated them in 1918 but didn't take the nessary action until Hitler came to power.

He's not even American he can fuck off

Watch the next couple of "Antifa" actions be met with a hail of gunfire from angry rednecks

No. No I won't let it sink in God damn it.

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fascist doesn't mean "anything i dislike" or "any form of authoritarian"
retard

They are militant communists

antifa is retarded in the sense they make it super easy for any evil government forces they claim to incite a riot by wearing an easy to replicate attire and starting shit.

apparently antifa believes their white privilege will protect them... but cover it up so cops cant tell. because that makes sense.

Use another word or something. These idiots stand for nothing

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PJW isn't too bright.

Pls don't bully him

The UK has spawned more Fascist or far-Right groups than any other country on earth.
Good to know we can still be number 1.

dems r the real racists guise!
antifa r the real fascists guise!

STOP DOING THIS

Divide and conquer CTR/CREW faggot
KYS

antifa are funded and organized by the government

Fascism is a a pejorative term with a far more general use than the academic definition. No one is accusing them of wanting to build a militarized, nationalist, corporatist, anti-democratic state. By referring to them as fascists, people are merely calling them violent authoritarians. Watson is an idiot, but you guys are just as bad.

Hey, I'm an American, I don't like fascists, anarchists, communists, socialists, religious extremists, etc.

I respect freedom of ideas, assembly, and commerce

I respect civility, altruism, and justice

You're an idiot. Fascists are communists. Fascism is defined by state control of the economy...Which is what communism is.

>It's another "Call self-avowed communists 'fascists' again" episode

But I always tell the truth!

I won't let them or you stop me!

Fascism to the normie is "bad right wing guys". When you call them the real fascists they laugh at you. Also it makes you look weak, since it implies you are the real moderate liberals.

Horseshoe theory

Yeah it's doublethink, this shit is downright orwellian.

I loved pic related. It complained of figurative "silencing" and complained of milos "bigotry" when Milo really isn't much of a bigot. I imagine he meant "Prejudice"

Meanwhile, speech, violence, and action by a government funded institution was used to literally silence a marginalized community, and literally promote bigotry.

I'm guessing the reason antifa smashed all those windows was that they saw their reflections...

>fascist are synonymous with ANTI-fascists
>that cognitive dissonance

lmoa, what can I expect more from controlled-oppositions?

they aren't fascists, and i cringe whenever i hear people call them that
they are totalitarians

>Fascists are communists.

Am I bring trolled?

OP has a point that we cant keep lazily throwing around 'fascist' like pejorative.

These rioters are commies, and we should call them as such.

"you're low IQ mongrels"

"waaaaaaaaa, they don't want me to express my opinion! free speech! i hate antifa now"

>When you call them the real fascists they laugh at you.
Who cares what they think. The only thing that matters is that the general public understands that their actions are fascistic in nature. Let them laugh; their views are completely irrelevant.

Tell me how Fascist Italy was functionally different than the USSR in terms of government.

Both were authoritarian governments that exerted control over the economy using the military and a strong brainwashing campaign of pro-state propaganda. I really fail to see the difference.

I am a firm believer in the political ideology of sui-monarchic theocracy in that I am your one and only ruler and your one and only God

can someone rewrite this post in pjw's accent pls

kek

Can someone please clarify the difference between:
Authoritarian
Totalitarian
Fascist

I thought they were all the same thing

>They are militant communists
But they aren't. Antifafags and even people who call themselves socialists and communists these days have nothing to do with Marxism-Leninism. Perverts and Lumpenproletariat cannot constitute a revolutionary class.

The Aristocracy gave way to the bourgeoisie because first the technological ability to conduct trade and then the industrialized production of goods put much more power in their hands than the aristocracy's ability to demand a portion of the products of peasants working on their land holdings. How is "We're poor and we like buttfucking" supposed to translate into a basis for the formation of a new social order?

Despite what the internet says, fascism is left wing. Mussolini called himself a communist and a socialist.

You're right to a certain degree but in case you haven't realized the government is on our side now, they have an obligation to protect their supporters, if you're going to be angry at anyone be angry at fucking Trump for not enforcing the law and order he's been crowing about.

b-but everything i dont like is a fasssism!!!

Fascism is an incomplete ideology, but, in its general sense, Fascism is most characterized by class cooperation -- through state programs -- as to benefit the interest of a Nation. One has more economic liberties, and a greater incentive to work, than in Socialism/Communism; whilst Capitalism is not allowed to run amok through its callous treatment of the laborer and the import of foreigners as to drive down wages.

Oh look its a wild lobergtarian.

Fascists worshipped their culture, commies didn't
Fascists don't try to erase social class, commies did.
Fascists were meritocratic, commies were burdened by egalistarianism,
Fascists enforce gender roles, commies did not.
All Fascists were non jews, commies were created by jews.
I could go on and on but really don't want to waste time debating a lolberg

Stalinist russia wasn't communist and commies will agree, it was a state forced into a sort of psuedo fascism to survive.

>tfw i live in luton

Commies were so caught up in class conflict and egalitarian retardation that it was disaster for its people; on top of massive famines and purges they were relying on state terror and secret police to keep their own people afraid and vulnerable.

Fascists sought class unity and maintaining order, for the sake of strengthening the nation through the supreme power of the state apparatus.

Both were immensely authoritarian, but both had different goals in mind and fascism understood culture, society and economics far far better than the USSR.

>being autistic over this of all things

PJW sucks and has an annoying voice, why do you read his twitter?

>At least in Britain those on the right have tacit sympathies for Hitler and fascism

Are you fucking kidding me?

>All Fascists were non jews, commies were created by jews.
This isn't true at all. there were several Jews, including Mussolini's mistress, involved with Italian fascism. It wasn't until they allied with the Germans that this changed.

But I guess everything we don't like is part of some evil Jewish conspiracy.

You can't tell the difference because you are using a few basic and generalized features to describe entire governmental systems. Many historically non-democratic states would fall under your definition of fascism/communism.

Authoritarian Authoritarianism is a form of government characterized by strong central power and limited political freedoms. Individual freedoms are subordinate to the state and there is no constitutional accountability under an authoritarian regime EX. Turkey

Totalitarianism is a political system in which the state recognizes no limits to its authority and strives to regulate every aspect of public and private life wherever feasible, without any respect for human rights EX North Korea

Fascism ehhh I don't know, the opposite of communism to generalize it.

MAYNE

It's kind of weird even if we pushed the breaks now and went full fash, what little of American culture remains is already so pozzed up it'll be practically commie fascism anyway.

seriously i know theyre on team Us but fuck theyre so fucking dumb. Stop accepting the language of the left you retards it NEVER WORKS. CALL THEM FUCKING COMMIES IS THAT SO FUCKING HARD

Much different socially, for instance, state atheism under communism, and communists being egalitarian whereas fascists definitely weren't.

Private ownership of business, as well as private property under fascism, whereas communism had concept of "usership". Another way to think of it is everything is collectively owned under communism and it's distributed as people see wise, whereas under fascism there is private ownership but the state can step in if an owner is causing problems.

Communism had forced collectivization.

Both systems had, corrupted, methods of democratic representation that worked differently.

Communism in theroy is supposed to be a direct democracy, and

Much more of a "social darwinist" society under fascism with more leeway for businesses to be run as they see fit

Communism under Stalin had notable parallels to fascism, but ultimately, still it wasn't the same.

If you really want to be anal about it, Fascism originally billed itself as a 3rd way between the conservatism of the era and left wing radicalism. You could say that it's very centrist.

The very symbolism of the fasces is all about the different segments of society being coordinated by a leader into something stronger than the squabbling fragments.

In Capitalism the boss forces you to work under shitty conditions for terrible pay.
In Socialism the workers strike endlessly and demand impossible wages.
In fascism the interests of all groups are coordinated by the leader and settled for the benefit of the society as a whole.

that's pretty funny.

for the people who don't get it:

>mirror image of widely circulated video
>best angle

I agree the rights tendency to see everything in terms of jews is annoying, but dont undersell the importance of the jewish question either

Fascism was pro-European, it was in a sense reactionary. Communism was nothing of the sort. Of course, the latter appealed more to Jews, because like Judaism communism was fervently against the European tradition.

Some see communism as a subset of judaic thinking, but I see more of a convenient alliance. Jewish pogroms strike me as illogical if it was really a master-slave relationship

>PJW sucks and has an annoying voice, why do you read his twitter?
>why read his twitter if he has an annoying voice?

>Fascists are communists
> anything that isn't Anarcho capitalism is leftism

Time to gas yourself.

Idgaf about his voice or him, he's not alone in his stupid "the left are FASCISTS" bullshit. News flash Fascists love their nation, the only thing the left loves is jerking off to their own virtue signalling

>Fascism opposite of communism.

Fascism was definitely a REACTION to communism, but it was hardly its opposite, Fascism was in many ways more similar to Communism than Capitalist Democracy was similar to Communism.

>Fascism ehhh I don't know, the opposite of communism to generalize it.

only that it staunchly opposed commies but it was also equally opposed to democracy or any post-monarchy system.

What italian fascism was striving for was a return of sorts to the Roman Empire but anew for the 20th century. They, the National Socialists, and any other fascist regime was really trying to restructure society and culture to emulate their pre-democratic/republic days but without being a formal monarchy. But also this: Its somewhat reactionary/traditionalist yet "radically centrist" in how it works around state structure and economics.

I just want "communists" to have the same effect on normies as "Nazi"

The "theyre opposites" meme is absolutely wrong, thats true

Fascism is the Right using the revolutionary tools of the Left, among other things.

Bump please

I'll take fascists over commie scum any day of the week.

Fuck commies

Wish I could bump those Jew tits with my dick

You're joking, right user? No one can be this stupid.

Yes, it is because their beliefs as they speak to others and themselves (signalling) is different than their actual visceral and emotional beliefs.

Spain is probably your best demonstration of fascism and how it distinguishes itself from communism.

The Spanish Republic was unstable to begin with and the left was determined to put the country through a revolution similar to the Soviet revolution. Franco put a stop to that and ruled in an authoritarian manner, but not nearly as traumatic as a revolution would have been. Italy is similar but joining the axis kind of doomed them.

The functional difference is that the USSR used politically extremist methods to overthrow the social order and create a new social order. Fascism used less extreme albeit still authoritarian methods to preserve the status quo. This is why Stalin called the German SPD "red fascists". He knew they were no longer pursuing Marxism (although it was officially part of their party platform until the late 1950s). Instead they were trying to stabilize the republic through responsible leadership.

They aren't they're communist .

>Fascism was in many ways more similar to Communism than Capitalist Democracy was similar to Communism

If you compare it to Leninism perhaps, but not actual stateless and hierarchy free communism.

Communist*

Damn, lefties got violent in a protest. Guess we have to elect a babbling retard and destroy the whole country and its future. Geez liberals, why did you have to provoke us. If only you left our games alone we might've spared you but alas tis the twist we have.

>stateless and hierarchy free communism.
Which is at the root of the far left today. All of antifa will identify basically as "Far Left Anarchists" because they know communism is a failed and gay ideology so thats what the rebrand is for

They're not, they're communists. Violence isnt a prerequisit of fascism, stop eating jewish propaganda and read some actual fascist literature (Evola, Mussolini )

There are peaceful communists and violent communists and peaceful fascists and violence fascists

The problem is that the far left is violent and the far right exists on message boards

I can tell you're new here you faggot cuck bitch

> you secretly love muh socialism
things anglo unironically believe

Me too. But I think shes a mexican and also I wanted to link this thread

This is just the beginning bitches.

ITT: everyone missing the point

We need the public to become Communist-wise, not anti-fascist. They're already anti-fascist, but Marxism still gets a pass.

As the great Italian writer Ennio Flaiano once said, "...fascist are divided into two categories: the fascist and the anti-fascist."

I let it sink in pretty deep. Feels good man. Terrorism is a strong word though.

Every time a SJW calls you racist, sexist, homophobe, call them a communist.

Communist
Communist
Communist

Drive it into people's brains. Everyone under 30 thinks Communism is either gone, or benign.

Because it's authoritarian? Communism is globalists, Fascism is nationalist- don't conflate the two just because they can use similar authoritarian actions to gain and keep power.

You know what we call this? Punching right. Alt light and libertarians need to stop fucking punching right by conflating SJW Marxists and Anarchists to Fascism. News flash! Communism killed more people than Fascism did.

Cuckservative:
Progressives are the real racists
SJW, Antifa, BLM, etc, are the real fascists

Correct:
Progressives are anti-White
SJW, Antifa, BLM etc. are Communists.