> Huhuhuh, anti-fa explicitly tell us that they are Communists and Anarchists but we'll continue to call them "fascists" because fascism is bad! > And we'll continuously compare our opponents to the Nazis even although most of us would love to live in the type of society the German NatSocs created > And all criticisms of our enemies will be based on the fact that they're not liberal enough, not philosemitic enough or hypocritical. "Muslims hate the gays/Muslims don't like Jews/Leftists don't support muh Israel!" > Maybe if we just keep calling them intolerant and saying that they don't support free speech then they will stop punching us
God, these faggots are just as annoying as Leftists, honestly. At least in Britain those on the right have tacit sympathies for Hitler and fascism. In America, because most normie right-wingers are Jew-worshipping Christcucks, they swallow all of the propaganda.
I agree some on the right are being stupid and always using "facism" and "Nazis" as bad labels instead of communists.
Angel Cox
there are two types of fascists: fascists and anti-fascists
Sebastian Collins
I read your post in PWJ voice
Wyatt Diaz
Its because unironic communists and anarchists and small in number and have no power. They're best used as useful idiots to delegitimize the liberal left by saying theyre the same people.
You can be a totalitarian and be a Leftist. Communist regimes have very little freedom. Communists are not fascists.
Ian Evans
Does it seem strange that people are capable of suspending their beliefs so much that they blatantly contradict themselves this way?
What is that called? doublethink or something? How can people outside of the political loop look at these groups as anything more than radicalized communist zealots?
Ayden Williams
Good vid, should spread it
Noah Evans
Stop misusing the term fascist, its triggering me. Neither of these groups deserce to be called fascist
Gabriel Morris
Any pro trump people should just call antifags Nazis at any protest or rally. Don't refer to them as anything else. They'll lose their shit
Brody Smith
go to Luton and hang out with your friends
Carter Butler
Yeah, it's been a catch all term for "things I don't like" for a long time now. A better word would be fag or retard.
Brayden Sullivan
>> Huhuhuh, anti-fa explicitly tell us that they are Communists and Anarchists but we'll continue to call them "fascists" because fascism is bad! >> And we'll continuously compare our opponents to the Nazis even although most of us would love to live in the type of society the German NatSocs created
In this case the word "fascism" is being used a pejorative to describe their use of authoritarian violence. It's value comes from being able to show the similarities to what it they claim to oppose. Pulling out the academic definition because it's convenient is just dishonest.
It is just lazy horseshoe theory, but it does serve a purpose.
> Maybe if we just keep calling them intolerant and saying that they don't support free speech then they will stop punching us Maybe if their opposition to free speech is adequately demonstrated, public opinion will turn against them to the point where the mainstream left must publicly disavow them. The government may also be able to take action against them too.
Lucas Martinez
sage delete
Nolan Murphy
antifa uses fascist tactics to make sure their anti fascist messages get heard.
Also its proof that rich people's stupid kids have no fucking sense of reality. "I got ran over for jumping on a guys car and hitting the windshield with my fists" victim card is hilarious.
Caleb Barnes
theyre pathetic. they are in denial that all the liberal shit theyve been supporting has actually been just a cover for marxism. so they keep up the anti-fascist liberal talking points so their minds dont break for believing a lie for 30 years.
Jordan Scott
Calling them Fascists is retarded. These Marxists cause chaos and death. Fascism is a reaction to these criminals. The more people they attack the more people will be attracted to Fascism. This is exactly what they did in 1917 in Russia, again in 1918 in Germany early 30's in Germany. When they succeed in Russia they created the First USSR, not long after Stalin came to power and removed them because they were far too radical to control, and they had outlived their purpose. Germany watching this defeated them in 1918 but didn't take the nessary action until Hitler came to power.
Ian Nguyen
He's not even American he can fuck off
Ayden Cook
Watch the next couple of "Antifa" actions be met with a hail of gunfire from angry rednecks
Brody Martinez
No. No I won't let it sink in God damn it.
Ryan Smith
? fascist doesn't mean "anything i dislike" or "any form of authoritarian" retard
They are militant communists
John Miller
antifa is retarded in the sense they make it super easy for any evil government forces they claim to incite a riot by wearing an easy to replicate attire and starting shit.
apparently antifa believes their white privilege will protect them... but cover it up so cops cant tell. because that makes sense.
David Thompson
Use another word or something. These idiots stand for nothing
The UK has spawned more Fascist or far-Right groups than any other country on earth. Good to know we can still be number 1.
Juan Wilson
dems r the real racists guise! antifa r the real fascists guise!
STOP DOING THIS
Bentley Cooper
Divide and conquer CTR/CREW faggot KYS
Jaxon Allen
antifa are funded and organized by the government
Robert King
Fascism is a a pejorative term with a far more general use than the academic definition. No one is accusing them of wanting to build a militarized, nationalist, corporatist, anti-democratic state. By referring to them as fascists, people are merely calling them violent authoritarians. Watson is an idiot, but you guys are just as bad.
Asher Moore
Hey, I'm an American, I don't like fascists, anarchists, communists, socialists, religious extremists, etc.
I respect freedom of ideas, assembly, and commerce
I respect civility, altruism, and justice
Dominic Edwards
You're an idiot. Fascists are communists. Fascism is defined by state control of the economy...Which is what communism is.
Carter Williams
>It's another "Call self-avowed communists 'fascists' again" episode
Cooper Hill
But I always tell the truth!
I won't let them or you stop me!
Chase Brooks
Fascism to the normie is "bad right wing guys". When you call them the real fascists they laugh at you. Also it makes you look weak, since it implies you are the real moderate liberals.
Jaxon Garcia
Horseshoe theory
Christopher Perry
Yeah it's doublethink, this shit is downright orwellian.
I loved pic related. It complained of figurative "silencing" and complained of milos "bigotry" when Milo really isn't much of a bigot. I imagine he meant "Prejudice"
Meanwhile, speech, violence, and action by a government funded institution was used to literally silence a marginalized community, and literally promote bigotry.
I'm guessing the reason antifa smashed all those windows was that they saw their reflections...
Robert Green
>fascist are synonymous with ANTI-fascists >that cognitive dissonance
lmoa, what can I expect more from controlled-oppositions?
Andrew Sanchez
they aren't fascists, and i cringe whenever i hear people call them that they are totalitarians
Hudson Ortiz
>Fascists are communists.
Am I bring trolled?
Adam Lewis
OP has a point that we cant keep lazily throwing around 'fascist' like pejorative.
These rioters are commies, and we should call them as such.
Brandon Robinson
"you're low IQ mongrels"
"waaaaaaaaa, they don't want me to express my opinion! free speech! i hate antifa now"
Charles Price
>When you call them the real fascists they laugh at you. Who cares what they think. The only thing that matters is that the general public understands that their actions are fascistic in nature. Let them laugh; their views are completely irrelevant.
Cameron Carter
Tell me how Fascist Italy was functionally different than the USSR in terms of government.
Both were authoritarian governments that exerted control over the economy using the military and a strong brainwashing campaign of pro-state propaganda. I really fail to see the difference.
Christopher Torres
I am a firm believer in the political ideology of sui-monarchic theocracy in that I am your one and only ruler and your one and only God
Landon White
can someone rewrite this post in pjw's accent pls
Gavin Lopez
kek
Mason Perry
Can someone please clarify the difference between: Authoritarian Totalitarian Fascist
I thought they were all the same thing
Colton Ortiz
>They are militant communists But they aren't. Antifafags and even people who call themselves socialists and communists these days have nothing to do with Marxism-Leninism. Perverts and Lumpenproletariat cannot constitute a revolutionary class.
The Aristocracy gave way to the bourgeoisie because first the technological ability to conduct trade and then the industrialized production of goods put much more power in their hands than the aristocracy's ability to demand a portion of the products of peasants working on their land holdings. How is "We're poor and we like buttfucking" supposed to translate into a basis for the formation of a new social order?
Samuel Davis
Despite what the internet says, fascism is left wing. Mussolini called himself a communist and a socialist.
Juan Lewis
You're right to a certain degree but in case you haven't realized the government is on our side now, they have an obligation to protect their supporters, if you're going to be angry at anyone be angry at fucking Trump for not enforcing the law and order he's been crowing about.
Ayden James
b-but everything i dont like is a fasssism!!!
Colton Edwards
Fascism is an incomplete ideology, but, in its general sense, Fascism is most characterized by class cooperation -- through state programs -- as to benefit the interest of a Nation. One has more economic liberties, and a greater incentive to work, than in Socialism/Communism; whilst Capitalism is not allowed to run amok through its callous treatment of the laborer and the import of foreigners as to drive down wages.
Julian Hill
Oh look its a wild lobergtarian.
Fascists worshipped their culture, commies didn't Fascists don't try to erase social class, commies did. Fascists were meritocratic, commies were burdened by egalistarianism, Fascists enforce gender roles, commies did not. All Fascists were non jews, commies were created by jews. I could go on and on but really don't want to waste time debating a lolberg
Stalinist russia wasn't communist and commies will agree, it was a state forced into a sort of psuedo fascism to survive.
Sebastian Gomez
>tfw i live in luton
Jason Perry
Commies were so caught up in class conflict and egalitarian retardation that it was disaster for its people; on top of massive famines and purges they were relying on state terror and secret police to keep their own people afraid and vulnerable.
Fascists sought class unity and maintaining order, for the sake of strengthening the nation through the supreme power of the state apparatus.
Both were immensely authoritarian, but both had different goals in mind and fascism understood culture, society and economics far far better than the USSR.
Gavin Brooks
>being autistic over this of all things
PJW sucks and has an annoying voice, why do you read his twitter?
>At least in Britain those on the right have tacit sympathies for Hitler and fascism
Are you fucking kidding me?
Jacob Ross
>All Fascists were non jews, commies were created by jews. This isn't true at all. there were several Jews, including Mussolini's mistress, involved with Italian fascism. It wasn't until they allied with the Germans that this changed.
But I guess everything we don't like is part of some evil Jewish conspiracy.
Nathaniel Ward
You can't tell the difference because you are using a few basic and generalized features to describe entire governmental systems. Many historically non-democratic states would fall under your definition of fascism/communism.
Lincoln Jenkins
Authoritarian Authoritarianism is a form of government characterized by strong central power and limited political freedoms. Individual freedoms are subordinate to the state and there is no constitutional accountability under an authoritarian regime EX. Turkey
Totalitarianism is a political system in which the state recognizes no limits to its authority and strives to regulate every aspect of public and private life wherever feasible, without any respect for human rights EX North Korea
Fascism ehhh I don't know, the opposite of communism to generalize it.
Jackson White
MAYNE
Michael Baker
It's kind of weird even if we pushed the breaks now and went full fash, what little of American culture remains is already so pozzed up it'll be practically commie fascism anyway.
Carson King
seriously i know theyre on team Us but fuck theyre so fucking dumb. Stop accepting the language of the left you retards it NEVER WORKS. CALL THEM FUCKING COMMIES IS THAT SO FUCKING HARD
Juan Baker
Much different socially, for instance, state atheism under communism, and communists being egalitarian whereas fascists definitely weren't.
Private ownership of business, as well as private property under fascism, whereas communism had concept of "usership". Another way to think of it is everything is collectively owned under communism and it's distributed as people see wise, whereas under fascism there is private ownership but the state can step in if an owner is causing problems.
Communism had forced collectivization.
Both systems had, corrupted, methods of democratic representation that worked differently.
Communism in theroy is supposed to be a direct democracy, and
Much more of a "social darwinist" society under fascism with more leeway for businesses to be run as they see fit
Communism under Stalin had notable parallels to fascism, but ultimately, still it wasn't the same.
Christopher Rivera
If you really want to be anal about it, Fascism originally billed itself as a 3rd way between the conservatism of the era and left wing radicalism. You could say that it's very centrist.
The very symbolism of the fasces is all about the different segments of society being coordinated by a leader into something stronger than the squabbling fragments.
In Capitalism the boss forces you to work under shitty conditions for terrible pay. In Socialism the workers strike endlessly and demand impossible wages. In fascism the interests of all groups are coordinated by the leader and settled for the benefit of the society as a whole.
Grayson Cox
that's pretty funny.
for the people who don't get it:
>mirror image of widely circulated video >best angle
Austin Murphy
I agree the rights tendency to see everything in terms of jews is annoying, but dont undersell the importance of the jewish question either
Fascism was pro-European, it was in a sense reactionary. Communism was nothing of the sort. Of course, the latter appealed more to Jews, because like Judaism communism was fervently against the European tradition.
Some see communism as a subset of judaic thinking, but I see more of a convenient alliance. Jewish pogroms strike me as illogical if it was really a master-slave relationship
Blake Sanders
>PJW sucks and has an annoying voice, why do you read his twitter? >why read his twitter if he has an annoying voice?
Bentley Howard
>Fascists are communists > anything that isn't Anarcho capitalism is leftism
Time to gas yourself.
Joshua Taylor
Idgaf about his voice or him, he's not alone in his stupid "the left are FASCISTS" bullshit. News flash Fascists love their nation, the only thing the left loves is jerking off to their own virtue signalling
Zachary Morris
>Fascism opposite of communism.
Fascism was definitely a REACTION to communism, but it was hardly its opposite, Fascism was in many ways more similar to Communism than Capitalist Democracy was similar to Communism.
Isaac Cruz
>Fascism ehhh I don't know, the opposite of communism to generalize it.
only that it staunchly opposed commies but it was also equally opposed to democracy or any post-monarchy system.
What italian fascism was striving for was a return of sorts to the Roman Empire but anew for the 20th century. They, the National Socialists, and any other fascist regime was really trying to restructure society and culture to emulate their pre-democratic/republic days but without being a formal monarchy. But also this: Its somewhat reactionary/traditionalist yet "radically centrist" in how it works around state structure and economics.
Jayden Taylor
I just want "communists" to have the same effect on normies as "Nazi"
Hunter Hill
The "theyre opposites" meme is absolutely wrong, thats true
Fascism is the Right using the revolutionary tools of the Left, among other things.
Ryan Long
Bump please
Kayden Carter
I'll take fascists over commie scum any day of the week.
Fuck commies
Dylan Morris
Wish I could bump those Jew tits with my dick
Aiden Ramirez
You're joking, right user? No one can be this stupid.
Austin Long
Yes, it is because their beliefs as they speak to others and themselves (signalling) is different than their actual visceral and emotional beliefs.
Nolan Torres
Spain is probably your best demonstration of fascism and how it distinguishes itself from communism.
The Spanish Republic was unstable to begin with and the left was determined to put the country through a revolution similar to the Soviet revolution. Franco put a stop to that and ruled in an authoritarian manner, but not nearly as traumatic as a revolution would have been. Italy is similar but joining the axis kind of doomed them.
The functional difference is that the USSR used politically extremist methods to overthrow the social order and create a new social order. Fascism used less extreme albeit still authoritarian methods to preserve the status quo. This is why Stalin called the German SPD "red fascists". He knew they were no longer pursuing Marxism (although it was officially part of their party platform until the late 1950s). Instead they were trying to stabilize the republic through responsible leadership.
Jayden Howard
They aren't they're communist .
Jaxon Adams
>Fascism was in many ways more similar to Communism than Capitalist Democracy was similar to Communism
If you compare it to Leninism perhaps, but not actual stateless and hierarchy free communism.
Bentley Ortiz
Communist*
Leo Smith
Damn, lefties got violent in a protest. Guess we have to elect a babbling retard and destroy the whole country and its future. Geez liberals, why did you have to provoke us. If only you left our games alone we might've spared you but alas tis the twist we have.
Dylan Cox
>stateless and hierarchy free communism. Which is at the root of the far left today. All of antifa will identify basically as "Far Left Anarchists" because they know communism is a failed and gay ideology so thats what the rebrand is for
Brody Kelly
They're not, they're communists. Violence isnt a prerequisit of fascism, stop eating jewish propaganda and read some actual fascist literature (Evola, Mussolini )
There are peaceful communists and violent communists and peaceful fascists and violence fascists
The problem is that the far left is violent and the far right exists on message boards
Austin Cooper
I can tell you're new here you faggot cuck bitch
Julian Perez
> you secretly love muh socialism things anglo unironically believe
Cooper Hughes
Me too. But I think shes a mexican and also I wanted to link this thread
Lincoln Torres
This is just the beginning bitches.
David Watson
ITT: everyone missing the point
We need the public to become Communist-wise, not anti-fascist. They're already anti-fascist, but Marxism still gets a pass.
Alexander Murphy
As the great Italian writer Ennio Flaiano once said, "...fascist are divided into two categories: the fascist and the anti-fascist."
Mason Miller
I let it sink in pretty deep. Feels good man. Terrorism is a strong word though.
Matthew Gonzalez
Every time a SJW calls you racist, sexist, homophobe, call them a communist.
Communist Communist Communist
Drive it into people's brains. Everyone under 30 thinks Communism is either gone, or benign.
Kayden Gomez
Because it's authoritarian? Communism is globalists, Fascism is nationalist- don't conflate the two just because they can use similar authoritarian actions to gain and keep power.
Jackson Rodriguez
You know what we call this? Punching right. Alt light and libertarians need to stop fucking punching right by conflating SJW Marxists and Anarchists to Fascism. News flash! Communism killed more people than Fascism did.
Joshua Turner
Cuckservative: Progressives are the real racists SJW, Antifa, BLM, etc, are the real fascists
Correct: Progressives are anti-White SJW, Antifa, BLM etc. are Communists.