I'm studying the Gospels and I think I'm turning into a Christian.
Jesus' teachings are still incredibly relevant today if you consider that he was a man that lived 2 thousand years ago.
Maybe he wasn't the son of God, but nobody at the time was capable of teaching such compassion and kindness.
What I want to ask you Sup Forums is: If I officially become a Christian, what branch of Christianity should I adopt?
What are the pros and cons of being a Catholic or a Protestant?
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the one that lets you divorce and have prenups.
>Jesus' teachings are still incredibly relevant today
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this is now a Sup Forums bible discusion thread
unless you accept Jesus as your lord and savior, and believe that God raised him from the dead, it doesn't really matter
Pick Orthodoxy. It is how the religion was originally practiced.
I would love to, but I don't know them in English
What do you mean by that? What's the way Christianity is practiced today and how was it is practiced by Orthodoxes?
The true path is Messianic Judaism. I realize how unpopular a viewpoint that is here.
Consider the following:
Jesus was in the temple on Hannukah
Nowhere is it stated it is ok to eat pork after Leviticus bans it
Jesus observed all the lord's feasts and didn't celebrate his own birth or ressurection.
Easter and Christmas ARE and ALWAYS HAVE BEEN pagan
Praying for you.
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Rabbi K. A. Schneider
Orthodoxy is the original Christianity. Catholics and Protestants practice a version were certain specific customs have been changed (doctrine hasn't changed too much though), specially Protestantism. If you want a more authentic version of Christianity than you should be orthodox. You can look up the detailed differences.
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You are part of the awakening!
A Catholic will tell you the same thing. Catholicism and Orthodoxy are the two to look into. I'm personally looking into Catholicism.
>"I guarantee you that after you die you will not say 'I spent too much time praying; I wish I had watched more TV instead."
Orthodoxy obviously, Catholicism is the version for the masses.
Catholic will not tell you the same, I only see Americans claim that.
>Byzantine/greek christianity
>orthodoxy is just called pravoslavie
>a part of the church starts makign reforms
>the people who now call themselves orthodox are against those reforms because they want to keep the rituals (obryad) the way they are
>Catholic means universal (plebified) / orthodox means true to the source.
Gnosticism is the ultimate red-pill.
>Thinking you can ever become a kew of you are white
sorry buddy, you are just cockroach level for real jews.
Gnosticism and Eastern meditation
Follow and Trust in Jesus Christ, don't bother with branches at all
fuck compassion and kindness
DEUS VULT CUNT!
I'm a Catholic but I'm usually terrified to tell people, as I live in ultra liberal California. When I date guys and I tell them I was raised Catholic and believe in God they usually think I'm joking.
Lord Jesus is God the son.
The world hates Christians because it hates God.
ohn 15:18
If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.
marry me, then.
>Jesus' teachings are
All either garbage or just basic "don't be an asshole" things.
You literally do not understand scripture at all.
I wish I could be less blunt. Read the link about Ephraim's awakening I posted. I'm not interested in the approval of so called Jews. I'm interested in the approval of Yeshua.
Praying for you man
Every Mexican in California is Catholic. talk to some different people.
Youre a faggot Jew and it's obvious
Acts 10:10 And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance,
11 And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending upon him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:
12 Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.
13 And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.
14 But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.
15 And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.
>don't call WHAT GOD HAS CLEANED 'common', i.e. dirty goy food
>GOD HAS CLEANED
I started at messianic Judaism. They had me believing I can't turn on light switches or use electricity during sabbath.
Read acts 10:15 over and over again, until it hits you.
>Rabbi K. A. Schneider
Matthew 23:8
But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.
It's like going around calling yourself "master". It's ridiculous.
Christ is the light my friend, good for you.
I was originally atheist because my parents were irreligious and my Anglican school just seemed like BS.
Never hated religion, but I became a militant atheist after high school because I read Dawkins and watched Hitchens, also I worked in a couple of Bangladeshi restaurants and saw Muslims up close (some of the westernised ones were okay, but it was obvious that these people are unhealthy fora country in large doses). Basically became a militant rationalist, had no time for spiritual nonsense.
Discovered mediation while living in Germany because there is a yoga class at the gym I was going to.
Discovered Buddhism, the truths made sense to me.
Become abstinent and vegan.
After one year think fuck this, become Satanist.
I realise now that the Buddhism was the recognition that there are spiritual truths, same with the satanism except they were about me looking out for myself and admitting that parts of my inner nature were also righteous and true.
Finally Gnosticism brought it altogether for me.
You have to do yoga or at least, you have to come to the truths yourself. You have to become like Christ.
The church omitted some very important texts that not only cause the bible to make sense when included, but they also corroborate the teachings of the bible with more ancient and mystical traditions. Jesus would have been a yogi himself, if you understand yoga you can see this, things that seemed strange or culturally odd are actually explicable is you imagine that the path Jesus followed internally is also one that you can follow.
It's also the ultimate red-pill because it is a conspiracy theory which is something people here seem to love.
>Maybe he wasn't the son of God ( He was)
Orthodoxy is perfection but in the west we are accustomed to unorthodox bullshit, we have made our beds...
>You have to become like Christ
This is heretical. Only God saves, through grace.
Don't tell me to read occult books like the 'gospel of Thomas'.
orthodoxy > catholic >>>>> cucktestant
I suppose meditation and yoga are off limits too?
Jesus practiced kriya yoga according to the yogis themselves
The Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom(a 4th century saint) is what is celebrated every Sunday in Orthodox parishes, and his liturgy was modeled after the liturgy of St. James which is from the 1st century.
The problem with yoga is that it encourages kundalini energy which is a serpent that goes up your spine. Mine activated when I got in to the occult and it caused me physical pain in my brain which I had to pray to God to be healed of and undo it.
It's dangerous and it's not biblical or required to be saved. Do you think those 'yogic masters' swimming in garbage in India and sitting in the dirt in their loin cloths are blessed by God? Are they saved? Are they your masters? Are they gods?
If yoga is so great why are they doomed living with no hope?
As for meditation you can think about God whenever you like, all day. You don't need to sit cross-legged for that. If you want to praise God while sitting cross legged in nature, great.
Autobiography of a Yogi is a fantastic book that answers your questions
>The problem with yoga is that it encourages kundalini energy which is a serpent that goes up your spine. Mine activated when I got in to the occult and it caused me physical pain in my brain which I had to pray to God to be healed of and undo it.
You've missed the point of Matthew 23:8
He was meaning don't be lead astray by false teaching. Nothing is being taught there that is false.
>I started at messianic Judaism. They had me believing I can't turn on light switches or use electricity during sabbath.
That is your folly for misunderstanding the teaching of Yeshua himself, "if your sheep fell in a well on the sabbath, which of you would not go and get it?"
Do not cast aside the true path for your own blindness.
always ask first, why not? not, why
Orthodox
Food for thought
"turn the other cheek and be a beta cuck so that us jews can steam-roll you"
its hard to be orthodox. I recommend easing into it slowly. I still cant fast properly. i dont have that power level yet
orthodox. protestants and catholics are the reason people hate Christianity and are suspicious of it. weeds that will be burned in the fire and not stored in God's barn. shame on them.
Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.
You need to save yourself, Christ will guide you but you can't sit on your ass and expect gnosis to be given to you by your pastor
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But there is no Sola Fide
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And yet Protestantism contradict early christians
all church fathers contradict sola fide
>I think I'm turning into a Christian.
>Maybe he wasn't the son of God
the bible itself has verses that instruct meditation in proverbs and psalm.
DON'T GO CATHOLIC, IT IS THE CLUB OF ELITIST KEKS AND PEDOPHILES
Catholic. We're the good guys.
no you arent
Benedict XVI is still alive.
What a CV.
why do u need to be any kind of branch?
just be a christian and read the bible
>tfw block out sexual arousal because was brought up christian where lust was a big no-no
>my first experience of looking up pictures of naked people resulted in dad getting mad at me and saying it wasn't right, then getting even madder when I just said I wanted to know what things looked like (which is all it was at the time, I wasn't wanking to it but he didn't believe me)
>only wank like twice a week
>only think of the act of wanking while doing it, not any fantasies or porn because they're psychologically off limits
>friend asks if I'm asexual
>don't know
>when asked, can't think of a time when I have gotten an erection because of thinking of someone
>don't know how much is biological low sex drive and how much is childhood psychological trauma and/or growing up with lust being forbidden
what do, I have no idea where convictions end and biology is meant to take over and I feel like the basic lack of desire has resulted in me having no initiative or motivation to be in a relationship
weird...i think im like this too
while i believe orthodoxy is by far the best, you should probably chose one closest to your spirituality and maybe even the spirituality of your fellow people (for italians it's obviously catholicism)
catholicism is great, has amazing tradition, great art and music, i don't like the concepts of papal supremacy, sin absolution and mythology of angry god but some people like it.
Reminder that every major religion, such as Catholicism, Orthodox or Protestantism is full of religious leaders who are cucks and pedos.
They are modern day Pharisees who Jesus preached against.
>Only wank like twice a week
Nothing wrong with that.
>Only think of it while doing it
Okay fine.
>Friend asks if you're asexual
>You don't know
You're not asexual, you are just suppressed sexually.
>Can't think of a time when you've gotten hard thinking of someone
That's because again, you've been sexually suppressed.
>>don't know how much is biological low sex drive and how much is childhood psychological trauma and/or growing up with lust being forbidden
Mostly suppression and trauma.
You should seek God but also seek yourself. Realize that your sexual feelings are normal. Even the ones right now where you feel numb and suppressed are a normal reaction.
You need to find a healthy why to vent this.
Also, are either of you on meds at the moment?
Free Church of Scotland. It's Trump approved.
I'm not on any meds
What do you suggest a healthy way to vent it is?
That will be the denomination that is ignoring the word of God.
Start getting yourself some playboy magazines and wank it to beautiful women. If you're uncomfortable with nudity, try swimsuit magazines at first.
There is literally nothing wrong with enjoying the sight of a beautiful woman. It's natural and only cucks want to take that part of your masculinity away.
Look at King David, he was beloved by God and had any woman he wanted.
Just don't watch degenerate porn like cuckoldry and that shit.
I'd suggest trying to wank to hentai manga as well.
Catholic
Catholic Cons
>The (current) Pope
>You got some people bowing to Mary (though they won't just come out and say it)
>Have to do confessions at Chruch
>Salvation through good works
Protty
There's no easy bullet point for protty cons. It really depends for each denomination. I can only tell you what we most agree on.
>Sola Scriptura (The Bible is the word of God and it is sufficient on judging things)
>Can ask God directly for forgiveness
>Salvation through Faith by the grace of God
The cons... I don't know. I guess like those dumbasses at Young Earth church, or those that don't believe in the reality of micro evolution.
There's also this one (Heretical) denomination which is the Black Nazareth. They literally worship this idol of Jesus because it came from wood that survived a ship burning.
good to see people waking up
Everything wise about Jesus is just a retelling of the popular Egyptian philosophers that came before him. Jesus was entirely a product of his time in Egypt.
Cons are simple
>Various heresies
>May or may not acknowledge Christ as God.
>Might require weird customs like banning caffeine or eating like a Jew.
>The Protestant ethic
>Ignoring the scriptural significance of the Apocrypha
You took the Zeitgeist movie pill, and that's nice and all but you haven't taken the redpill yet.
Most of the religious banter in that documentary was inaccurate.
>Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth. Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. Love never ends.
Corinthians 4:8
>And above all these put on love, which binds everything together in perfect harmony.
Collossians 3:14
>Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love.
John 1:4-8
The New Testament has such a beautiful and humanistic message, I don't know how people can just dismiss it
Go to blessyahowah.com . We read from the oldest greek manuscripts and dead sea scrolls. Don't get conned by CHristians, half of the shit in their bastardized "Bibles" are nonsense.
We're doing a Towrah Study tonight in 5mins, google: Yada Yah blogtalk
Ehhhh, no thanks
force yourself and get into a relationship.
ThisNobody else can do it for you.
Osiris is supposedly the original story of resurrection.
>tfw no Orthodox church near me
Byzantine Chanting is the best
This happened to me, I was an atheist fedorafag until I started to study the Gospels. I'm going through Catholic initiation right now, there isn't many Protestant churches here in the UK besides Baptist and Methodist, neither of which appeal to me. It's mainly Anglicans here, and their church is in chaos because it is cucked, and panders to progressives.
>allows divorce
>this is how it always was
No, you caved to medieval Slavic monarchs like the Anglicans did with Henry
i'm not going christcuck until they have the balls for crusades 2.0
It's true that orthodox fasting is quite hardcore. But it shows true devotion. I also haven't gotten to this level.
do you support pic related then?
>Easter and Christmas ARE and ALWAYS HAVE BEEN pagan
You know, baptizing pagan holidays aren't the same as preserving pagan holidays. The Church formed Christimas and Easter around the traditional dates for Yule and the Spring Solstice celebrations to provide newly converted pagans with a cultural link to their people/culture while at the same time transforming them into a distinctly Christian holiday. It's actually pretty fucking genius. Rather than outright banning or outlawing traditional pagan feasts, the Church essentially hijacked them and made them their own.
God bless you friend. As long as you believe Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior you're gonna be fine. Churches shouldn't compete with each other, we're all trying to honor our Lord.
What the hell is even the point? You don't even believe in all of it, just admit you're a cultural Christian like every other retard is
My recommendation would be to read G.K. Chesterton. Particularly his "trilogy" of Christian apologetics, namely:
Heretics, Orthodoxy and, finally, The Everlasting Man.
In fact I would recommend that all Pagan Larpers on here read it, if not for the sake of educational value, then at least in an attempt to actually know Christian (Catholic specifically) doctrine before disparaging it.
Here are two good videos from the Chesterton Society of America.
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(The everlasting man)
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(Chesterton vs Nietzsche i.e. Christianity vs Humanism/Nihilism)
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Cons: illegitimate and contradict all the early christians
This is not true.
Heresies need to be weeded out and removed. Otherwise we can simply apply your theory to every other religion:
"Religions shouldn't compete with each other, we're all trying to honour a God"
They dilute the truth of the Catholic Church by inseminating it with pride and hubris
No-one starts their journey full of faith. You become filled with it as you walk the path and reach gnosis. It's a strange idea atheists have that you must believe fully before you can become a Christian when it's the exact opposite, you become a Christian so the Holy Spirit can come into you and give you the belief you need.
>May the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, so that by the power of the Holy Spirit you may abound in hope.
Based Kraut
There's a difference between non-idealized and caricature.
>Maybe he wasn't the son of God, but nobody at the time was capable of teaching such compassion and kindness.
Yeah, all the Asians who taught such ideas were born hundreds or thousands of years before.
im not sure if this is a post to criticise human trait of seeing only the superficial or just to make fun of christians
probably 2nd since yore a muslim and this is Sup Forums
Start by realizing he is not only the son but also God. If you do not accept this then you cannot be a Christian.
The bible is a collection of old oral stories writen in the third century a.c. by a roman emperor in the first council of nicea.
If you are an emperor, how you want the people you rule?
Why is different the God from old testament than the one in the new?
Jesus is Barrabas. Bar-abbas: son of the father.
>>Only wank like twice a week
>Nothing wrong with that.
>Start getting yourself some playboy magazines and wank it to beautiful women. If you're uncomfortable with nudity, try swimsuit magazines at first.
>There is literally nothing wrong with enjoying the sight of a beautiful woman. It's natural and only cucks want to take that part of your masculinity away.
>Look at King David, he was beloved by God and had any woman he wanted.
>Just don't watch degenerate porn like cuckoldry and that shit.
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Matthew 5:27-30New American Standard Bible (NASB)
27 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery’; 28 but I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29 If your right eye makes you [a]stumble, tear it out and throw it from you; for it is better for you [b]to lose one of the parts of your body, [c]than for your whole body to be thrown into [d]hell. 30 If your right hand makes you [e]stumble, cut it off and throw it from you; for it is better for you [f]to lose one of the parts of your body, [g]than for your whole body to go into [h]hell.