Are the freemason our enemies? My friend drunkenly accidentally revealed that he is a freemason, should I be worried...

Are the freemason our enemies? My friend drunkenly accidentally revealed that he is a freemason, should I be worried? What is their end game? Are they just some archaic club for rich people or they matter today?

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Freemasons are just dress rehearsals and grooming for satanic elites. You practice until you get far enough where someone asks you to do a real ritual, which is getting a huge dick up your ass so you can communicate with satan.

I don't know about Yuro masons but Masons in the states are just middle aged to old men hanging out using it as an excuse to get away from their wives for a night. It generally seems to be me mostly white middle to upper class Christian or vaguely religious men doing their boring thing
t. Grew up as a masonic youth, in a masonic family

>Freemasons are just dress rehearsals

What part of that did you not understand you fucking idiot?

I asked him if he's worshipping moloch or Satan and he said he belives in the first stonemason or something like that then he tried to change subject. He said some criptic shit and won't tell me anything else.

the second part of your comment is fucking nonsense.

my grandpa was a freemason he also worked for nasa coincidence I think not.

How would you know? You've already stated all you know about them is they are bunch of old men.

A French-Jew, Jacob Cohen who is a former Freemason and Zionist wrote a book telling that the Mossad recruits spies in Freemasnic lodges, they call it "sayanim".

Yes it Satanic worship. You will never even see it's true purpose, you'll just be faced to pay dues and hang around a bunch of old men who will except you to have a wife, start a family, believe in a God etc. They don't know anything. All the 'secrets' that the low members think they know are all over the internet. I'll give you an example:

>Who will defend the widow's son?

This is a reference to Jesus and Mary Magdalene's child. Jesus is the dead father, Mary is the widow. The bloodline of christ is the widow's son.

This faggot probably doesn't even know that.

He is from a lower class family, pretty much ordinary people. His father died, have a retarded brother, I don't think he's part of the elite (he is a college dropout bartender)

no I didn't. I said that they are primarily old men. I've assisted in a ton of Masonic events. I've been present and assisted in the installation of officers. My Grandfather was a 32nd degree mason. I have a pretty good idea of what I'm talking about.

This is part of the story too. The real Masons are long long gone. It was subverted by Jews a long time ago. They recruit all 'bright minds' under the allure of secrets, hoping that some of those bright minds will be in positions of power when their careers progress, and then they exploit them.

The highest degree Freemasons are just the lowest of the elite.

Most older Masons are just part of the secret club and dick around. It's like roleplaying for them. When you get higher up things are much more secretive and it's hard to say what goes on, but it's entirely possible they practice what they preach. Kinda like Sup Forums in that regard. Satire mixed with die hards.

I don't give a fuck who your grandfather is. All of their secrets are online you fucking idiot.

Freemasonry is incredibly insidious. It passes itself off at the lower levels as a fraternal organization that does charity work. Most members see it this way.

The higher up you go, the more secret doctrine is revealed to you, and the more Satanic it gets. The higher levels involve ritual child sex abuse and Satanic worship. Most members never get to that point, and the ones who do won't say shit about it.

Satan is the god of the Masonic Temple, make NO mistake about that.

A true Master Mason holds himself accountable to the Supreme Architect of the Universe.

This is absolutely correct. There are paths you can take that are like fast lanes to the top. Skull and Bones is one of them. Both Clinton and Bush were members.

Yup. There's a reason most US Presidents went to Yale.

Most modern Presidents went to Ivy league schools, it's not true that most Presidents did. Then again, most Presidents were not part of this group. Those are times when American progresses for the good of the people and not some fucking costume child sex party.

>This is a reference to Jesus and Mary Magdalene's child. Jesus is the dead father, Mary is the widow. The bloodline of christ is the widow's son.

The Widow's Son is Horus/Tammuz son of Nimrod/Semeramus Osiris/Isis.

Isis is the church, Osiris the doctrine, and Horus is the "perfected man", the "thousand points of light", the priesthood.

If you want to know about freemasonry, read books. Manly P. Hall, Albert Pike, Mackay.

Their goal is the "great work". Abolition of the nation state, abolition of private property, abolition of all religion (save their own), and enslaving "the mob" (that's us) in a socialist totalitarian "New World Order" (TM).

If anybody claims to be a mason and tells you what they're doing, remember they swear blood oaths to never reveal their secrets and lie too you if you ask. Also virtually none of the rank and file have any fucking clue what the true purpose of their organization is.

Taft and the Bushes went to Yale, along with countless other government officials. Taft, of course, secured the land for Bohemian Grove.

Stephen Colbert is a 33rd Freemason. There were some leaks posted a few days ago that stated his show took directions directly from the Clintons. Can you see where this is going?

>higher levels

kek

every fucking time this gets brought up.

what do you mean by higher levels

>hint: the answer is always one degree higher than me

Coming from a rural PNW town that is 100% in the grips of a lodge/Jewish cabal, I am pretty sure that like others here have said, the basic lower levels are just what they pretend to be, regular community organizations- I think that they leave hints for you and the more that you respond and the more that they see you're aware of that level of thinking, the more that they reveal to you. Say you're someone totally aware of all of the cult stuff behind all of this, and you are aware of the network of control in your region and you want to sell out, I think you could easily wink back at them and that would basically lead to them inviting you into the darker secret stuff. Of course you'd probably be forced to do weird stuff right off the bat (maybe like weird sex acts or cheating on spouses and such) so that they could slowly black mail you into worse and worse behavior until you're killing people and totally owned by them. They'd sell it at first like they were going to offer you tons of insider connections but by the time it's too late you'll realize they're just abusing you. Anyways I suggest you avoid them!

>The Widow's Son is Horus/Tammuz son of Nimrod/Semeramus Osiris/Isis.

There are many parallels between the religions. Jesus isn't the only God who was the 'son hero' who had the almighty all father.

Thor?

It's not about winking or being intelligent or anything like that. They want people who have power and money. Those are the people at the top. They collect bright minds and just on sheer probability some end up becoming very powerful. There's a reason they don't want women, it's because women never become powerful. Filter out a bunch of useless members right there.

Speculative Masonry is essentially nonexistent. What you're describing, which is totally accurate, is Illuminism as outlined by Adam Weishaupt in 1776. That is the reason for the 1776 on the back of our Dollar bill.

second guy just happened to grow up in a masonic family and its not big deal. youre a fucking kike

Basically anything above Master Mason.

There's a reason a Freemason received an auto-excommunication from the Church even in the 18th century. Its members will all end up in hell, they are direct enemies of the Christ and the Church. Many papal documents have been written on the dangers of this group. For the salvation of your soul, stay away.

Try mentioning the name Jesus Christ in a lodge then.

I can assure you, their religion is the mystery religion of Babylon, and the widow's son isn't some grail blood bullshit (though the Rosicrucian/Merovengian groups believe in their divine king). The widow's son is what they call "fellow travelers".

Do you imply that they think they're ALL descendants of Jesus?

You're a dipshit if you think, in this day and age, that "Satanism" is a bad thing.

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im a freemason. if you want to know anything just go do the damn local hall and ask about joining

It's basically a secular agnostic priesthood. As long as he's not trying to climb the ranks not too much to worry about, but yeah I wouldn't reveal secrets to him.

Hmm, well I agree that I'm missing parts of it, and you're right that they definitely solicit people with connections and resources as well, but I think you're not seeing the whole picture either, and I know for a fact that people in my town, at work, at the multiple lodges here, and in other areas of my personal life, are involved in a Satanic cabal and they wink at our family frequently. I'm dirt poor, too. I know that we could sell out if we wanted to. You're right that they collect bright minds.

They make you do things like spit on the Bible to get into the higher levels. They're looking for people who are aware of the Satanic nature of this whole situation/occult stuff and that are willing and eager to sell their souls and contribute.

So Kubrick was right and he was offed right after exposing them
They killed the fucking pope too and replaced him with stooges when he was about to expose them for their involvement in the vatican bank

No matter what happens when you're not gonna get it down you can only do that the same app for the most part and you have are very much better with your own advice for your dick

I'm not talking about Church of Satan woo-woo edgelord humanist horseshit. I'm talking about Luciferianism, the real deal.

You don't think perhaps it has anything to do with the Declaration of Independence?

There is literally nothing above Master Mason.

There is EA, FC, and MM. MM is the highest. There is nothing higher.

>their religion

Most are Christians here. Like, the overwhelming majority. In fact, there are a lot of Orders i.e Knights Templar that only let in Christian masons.

>if you want to know anything just go do the damn local hall and ask about joining
You don't ask to join, you get asked
you think they would trust their secret shit on just about anyone?
gg faget

You have nothing to worry about the Freemasons.

"the real deal" as in, worshiping something that a different religion stole from yet another religion and turned into a "bad guy" because the two religions were enemies thousands of years ago?

Yeah, what the fuck is so bad about that? It's all the same one way or another.

okay loosen that tinfoil

No, it doesn't. That's a common miscronception. Literally everything on the back of the one-dollar bill is Illuminist imagery. The Eye of Providence/Eye of Ra, the pyramid with thirteen steps, Ordo Novus Seclorum. Not one bit of that refers to the Declaration, but all of it is Illuminati Masonic symbolism.

At lower levels it's fat old men LARPing because they feel unfulfilled. At the highest levels they're subversive Satan worshippers. There's a common thread running through Bolshevism and Masonry. Check out Trotsky's autobiography if you want to know more

>Most are Christians here
Thats what they say in order to subvert the church from within
Until Vatican II farse it wasn't possible for a mason to be a christian too

I read Illuminatus! too, but I just don't take it as seriously.

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Is this a real question? The masons aren't anything, it's just a fraternity of old men who can't get away from their wives without being in an 'organization'

Sometimes children will think their logos are important on the back of cars and say their dad doesn't get pulled over by the police.

That's literally it.

Wrong woman or a man that you can get a lot more money for than your life own life or and your not going to be get your money life and your you will never know how much about you because they don't are you even because you have don't are the

LOL you can't be serious. You do know what board you're on, right? We all know better than that.

All dark occultists are our enemies.

We are neutral. Neither dark nor light. We technically use dark occult tactics, but we use them to free mankind not enslave it.

uh no you can go ask. now once you join theres other sub groups you have to be asked. my family goes way back hell send me your info i will ask you to join i will file the paperwork.

Yeah this user is right. Masonry, like Rosicrucianism, were subverted sometime around the start of the 18th century and inverted. It was originally a valid initiatic center. Now at the upper levels they further the cause of Progress, (((neoliberalism))), all that jazz.

Evola's Men Among the Ruins is relevant

>You do know what board you're on, right?

We're actually on Sup Forums
I think perhaps you've mistaken it for

Freemasons are pedo's, do not trust them.

No, it wasn't possible for a mason to be a Catholic.

The Masons and the Catholic Church are at odds because the Catholics had a nasty habit of wanting to kill masons.

>know better
>translation: am delusional

Freemason lodges aren't non-profits, therefore their financial records are public, go check them out. Less conspiracy and more traditionalist and charity.

From my experience they are mostly harmless until you towards the top. At that point there exists rituals for a bunch of shit. Also if you see someone being handed positions within the lodge relatively fast, they did something for that to occur.

Here in the states there is a lot of corruption. You can study the history yourself and see what I mean. There are always a bunch of faggot members in these threads that will deny everything I say so ill keep it to myself. Just do your own research and information will pop up.

Uh no you need me too much. Like you're literally the most annoying thing I've seen on a long long term

I'm a Protestant and even I know what a shitshow Vatican II was.

Freemasonry leads back with hints to knowledge that survived the great deluge, and the first builders of society after the fact, such as Nmrod who was mentioned.

They hold the answers to many questions but realistically the only power they hold is over the temptations of people with the promise of lost history lessons.

>There are always a bunch of faggot members in these threads that will deny everything I say so ill keep it to myself.
You think these "Evil run the world" Masons would waste their time arguing with a bunch of 16 year olds on the internet?

I thought they had a bunch of Satans to worship and worlds to control in a very evil manner. That's got to take up most of their days.

sorry we are Christians , i can careless what the pope has to say on the matter, the vatican are idol worshipers

Lol

Yes, Masonry is a study of Judaism.

He literally said the low level ones are harmless. Learn to read, masonfag

wtf are you going on about faggot ?

My bad, I read catholic
Still, they didn't go after masons for no reason
Just look at the joke the modern Catholic Church is

Like this faggot here.

Like I said OP do your own research. They have shills on Sup Forums and 8ch believe me. They don't want people knowing about the stuff we know about so they try to cover their assets and asses. They will be exposed eventually, not just the ones at the top either.

have you ever heard the old addage "You have nothing to hide if you've nothing to fear"?
Why would a club go to such lengths to keep its inner workings secret?

if you just ask yourself that you'll understand that no matter what they're up to it can't be good

Please stop being so stupid and you're disrespecting me. So you can get a better app app for the game than you have

You can't disprove him until you know a 33rd degree mason who truly knows what freemasonry is about

You're not far from the truth, they adopted a lot of stuff from the torah and judaism

what in fucks name did i just read

>the real deal

>low level

this is such a stupid meme. There are 3 degrees. It takes very little time and not a lot of effort to become a Master Mason. That is the highest degree. There is no "secret top levels" we don't know about.

>they didn't go after masons for no reason

The Catholics went after masons for the same reason Catholics went after TONS of people, they wanted to squash groups that would possibly undermine the secular power of the Church.

Remember, at the time, the Church had an immense amount of secular political power, and fought the 30 Years War specifically to keep it. They bullied and killed anyone that would pose a threat. Even the Templars weren't spared, and they were some of the best fighters to protect pilgrims on their way to Jerusalem.

You're delusional if you think anybody gives a fuck about Sup Forums.
If they were really "trying to cover it up" and gave a fuck, they would just say nothing and let you morons ramble at each other about nonsense. It would still go nowhere--nobody would hear it--and their "shills" could spend their time doing something more productive.

Years ago I had a good bad idea I had been a good meme. You are one way to make you weyewwww a man who has worked for your family for years. Someone is just a little more expensive than me. Does it feel good about it all that time?

>muh illuminati

the problem with your theory is that this shit has been going down since well before 1776

try harder next to fag

Keep defending your filthy club you grimy salad dodging hoe. I love seeing you BTFO

literally white knighting a supposedly harmless fraternity like the shill you are.

>There are 3 degrees

You're either lying or you're stupid. Use google to see how stupid you are

American Blue Lodge is still pretty white and Christian and remains pretty segregated (99% whites only). The York Rite (American Masonry) requires that you be a Christian and a current member of Blue Lodge (99.9% white Christian). By Chance, Scottish Rite Masonry is 99.9% white and Christian too.

The Masons are as much or more white and more evangelical than most white nationalist forums and meet-ups/groups. However, Masons are good stewards of their communities, well-respected local leaders, and arrange a lot of charity for the deserving poor.

The bad Masons that everyone talks are the continental Masons that aren't recognized by the Grand Lodge of England. These fuckers are communists and have ruined continental Europe. Real masons under the recognition of the Grand Lodge of England are not supposed to associate with them.

Some of the greatest presidents, Sup Forums's favorites, were masons.

There is literally no reason to care about free masons. They mainly are made up of old men who do charity work for their local church. Either way, the Pope recently shut down the Order so it isn't part of the church anymore.

Faggot. I know what you're about.

Link?

Link to the app and then post some more important information about it

I'm a 28 year old line cook with nothing better to do than talk to morons like you on the internet. That is what I am all about.

Gagging for a single man who has never been proven to the man that is a single man

Masonry underwent a similar inversion to the one which occurred in Rosicrucianism. It was quite a different organization in the Middle Ages. Weishaupt is notable for inspiring Leon Trotsky, as Trotsky himself says in his autobiography. I know it breaks your heart that your secret club has been a leading force of world subversion for the past three hundred years, but it's true.

>all this delusion

so.. do you not want to come to our next charity breakfast?

No you idiot, there are EAs, FCs, and MMs.

Those are THE degrees in Blue Lodges.

I can talk to you idiots, but you're going to have to speak English if you want replies.

Great game

Please don't stop it so much because you're so cute

The compass and square are tools non-degenerate artists used. They are redpilled at least when it comes to the arts.

What ever happened to men's clubs anyways? I think when they went down so did society.

Not that you're not wrong, but the masons ambitioned taking that power from them and got it, by subverting it from within

So you've degenerated into displaying complete incompetency in communication and then calling me "cute" for pointing it out.

I thought you'd at least be fun to talk to.

"Master Masons are also able to extend their Masonic experience by taking further degrees, in appendant bodies approved by their own Grand Lodge. The Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite is a system of 33 degrees (including the three Blue Lodge degrees) administered by a local or national Supreme Council."

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemasonry

Does it bother you that some random user on Sup Forums knows more about your gay little club than you do?

disown the faggot as a friend

You can read wikipedia.

Nothing to be cheeky about.

I think they were more succesful at subverting the goverment power from within.