Can someone explain to me the shitstorm that is the Middle East? Why do Turkish people hate the Kurds? What did the fall of the Ottoman Empire cause? What's going on with Israel? Shit like that.
I want to understand the hatred countries have the hatred they do to one another in the Middle East.
The second paragraph should read along the lines of "why do countries in the Middle East hate one another"?
Kayden Jenkins
Islam
Luke Wright
Islam
Hunter Morales
artificial borders set up by the Brits and French after de-colonization shitty living conditions and massive economic disparity tons of rivalries stocked during the Cold War by the US and USSR playing countries off against each other culture based on muh masculine honor and muh bloodlines (i.e. Sup Forums's wet dream) which leads to endless confrontations to show how macho you are
Aaron Anderson
Israel is the holy land for all three big religions, but for Jews it's supposed to be land explicitly granted to them by God, Zion, after the whole Moses deal. At some point, it was conquered and the Jews that remained Jews spread out in a diaspora over Europe. Jews that converted were still CULTURALLY Jewish, but not religiously. The two grew incredibly far apart, and after WWII, the Allies literally propped up Israel and said, "Hey guys, we got you your land back." Now some of the people that lived there are incredibly pissed, and of course... Islam.
David King
islam ftw
Nathan Allen
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Jeremiah Cruz
Us wanted oil but mostly retarded conservatives don't like to admit we contributed to the destabilizing of the middle east
Jaxson Perry
They really need a reformation
Benjamin Robinson
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Islam is semitic shit
Easton Hughes
Basically every time they tried to be modern the British empire or the newer Amerikan empire sponsored insane Sunni tribalists to stop it. The problem isn't really Islam, which is why conservatives are retards who can't tell the difference between Shiite militias that protect Christians and have Christian members, and Al Qaeda. The latter which they objectively support, even if they're just useful idiots who don't understand how.
Everyone in the Middle East is Islamic almost. They must surely all be in the same page in that respect. How can Islam be a factor to conflict between them
Kevin Rodriguez
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Alexander Lewis
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Mason James
Muslims ran out of people to kill and oppress so started killing and oppressing other Muslims with the different sides being relatively radical and moderates. The radicals won so now the radicals of back then are the moderates now and they're having a race to the bottom of which more radicalized radical will rule that region.
Zachary Flores
there are different kinds of islam dipshit
I figure a britcuck would know all about islam by now
Brayden Wilson
I want to lick her sweaty asian butthole while she smothers me with her cheeks :^)
Jackson Garcia
>asking Sup Forums history questoins >not reading a book
kys
William Sanders
Islam is Islam dick head. They all read the same book
Luis Moore
No it doesn't, Islam's going through a Reformation at this very moment. Let me explain, the Christian Reformation happened when Christians were actually able to read the Bible in their own languages and saw that what was being preached by the Church (gimme all your money and your sins will be absolved) wasn't what was in there. With that in mind, what would a Muslim Reformation be like? Well Muslims in say, the 1970s could begin reading the Koran and start seeing that what was in there (Slaughter the Infidels) wasn't what was being preached by their Live in Peace With The Infidels secular authorities. Then they might attempt armed insurrection and violent revolution against said secular authorities, as well as terrorist insurgencies against those Infidels who won't have the good grace to fuck off and die. In other words, you'd have a world exactly like our own. What we need is Islamic *secularisation*
What *kind* of Muslim is important. You think the followers of a faith that specialises in slaughtering those who don't pray the same way they do is going to be sympathetic to theological disagreements?
>Let me explain, the Christian Reformation happened when Christians were actually able to read the Bible in their own languages and saw that what was being preached by the Church (gimme all your money and your sins will be absolved)
Catholics aren't Christians.
Tyler Barnes
Everyone who lives near the Turks seems to hate them. Arabs, Slavs, Circassians, Greeks.
I guess fucking over every group of people you come into contact with will do that.
It's listed under >Irrationalism in the Wake of September 11, 2001 and at the bottom it says >Not an official UW Green Bay site
Jayden Johnson
Well everyone who lives near the Turks were conqured and made into second-class citizens. [Third class if you were not Sunni]
Easton Miller
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Bentley Nguyen
Mahmoud stfu, go read the quran b4 posting
Justin Roberts
>mfw I can introduce this into conversations >mfw I start at the beginning and describe how the Jews helped with the Crusades >mfw I don't have to even say "Jews" to have people start connecting the dots >mfw they come to me later quietly and say "hey, this sounds crazy, but am I the only one who noticed that there seemed to be a lot of Jewish influence there"
Mason Bennett
Islam is still islam mahmoud, they all read the same book and they all still follow his messages, think of it like christianity, we have several diffirent branches (catholism, orthodoxism and many more) but we all still follow jesus teachings and still read the same book
Landon Miller
I am a Circassian and most Circassians are more pro-Turkish than Turks. Lot's of Arab Turks and Bosnian Slavic Turks are nationalistic as well.
You are just a Greek diaspora fag.
Blake Gomez
Jews and Islam
Sebastian Sullivan
No
Charles Carter
They already went through a reformation called Wasabis they literally destroyed all the peace loving sects of Islam so Saudi could push the agenda of an Arab world domination
Oliver Gray
we don't hate kurds. some of them is pretty cool. but you know kurds are mexicans of turkey. ant there is arab spring. you know all this islam shit and strong countries' panislamism policy. now you might be saying so why they fight each other. sect wars!
Anthony Cox
Do you have any other memes or is this it?
Henry Sullivan
The only people that Muslims here more Jews, Christian and Westerners- are it Muslims.
Isaac Collins
just looking at that photo made me jizz in my pants
Eli Bell
WHY! WHY did the allies do that? a peice of germany should have been carved out for the jews
Austin Sanchez
>The only people that Muslims here more Jews, Christian and Westerners- are it Muslims. Talk in English please, Shlomo.
Brayden Sanders
this i kek'd
Dylan Johnson
>shitskins have oil >everyone wants oil >everyone wants to keep everyone else from getting oil >nobody wants middle east to become significant geopolitical threat because oil=power >queue(various different, mostly ill planned) destabilization techniques >batshit muzzies go ape shit over the course of a few decades recruiting various pissed off and deluded brown people to do whatever the hell they think they are doing >average muzzies generally pissed off and always blame someone, be it the US, russia, and their puppet states, other religious sects, any of the various totalitarian regimes >also batshit jews and their shitty desolate plot of land they want to keep safe and enrich for whatever goddamn reason >they also fucking hate everyone in an odd hundred mile radius of their little desert shithole Basically it's just a big shit pot that external powers view as a big geopolitical chess game, which could have been forced to be aligned to one parties interest if only there weren't a fuck load of different idiots pulling in a million different contradictory directions. At this point I can't tell if anyone has an end goal of any kind other than "fuck around with shit until we can squeeze the resources out."
Gabriel Howard
The Middle East had a civilisation that had its heyday and declined. Now it's being ragdolled by multiple powers all stirring up conflict to try to gain an edge.
Logan Hernandez
Also blame the soviets and the US for fucking around all over the place toward the end of the cold war, they started a lot of what you see today But mostly desu
Alexander Ortiz
Fpbp
Easton Jackson
>caliphates never existed
Pol failed history
Caliphate will rise again, kuffar.
Easton Brown
>Be British >Doesn't understand the active role your shitty empire played in the complete destruction of the Middle East.
But hey, always easy to scream "ISLAM" because it doesn't really require any additional thought or investigation on the issue.
Wew lad.
Liam Carter
This.
Bit pathetic on a political board for crying out loud.
Alexander Morris
>Caliphate will rise again, kuffar >Most muslims actually believe this
Sad!
Benjamin Roberts
It's a much different culture than European culture, and to not sound like a hippy, I can say for sure that it is an inferior culture for sure. You can't understand them, they can't understand us. They never had the enlightenment and never evolved like us. Can't understand them but you sure can kill them good. A lot of them are suicidal, they have a very real death cult, jihadists and all. It really is insane to think you are accomplishing anything in a jihad, they just want to die. Are you going to let them take you with you, or do you grant their wish? All we have to do is stop bombing the citizens, that is a wrong thing that the west has done.
Luis Phillips
Gb2 sand
Asher Jones
>Islam is Islam dick head. They all read the same book People believe in different interpretations of the same book which leads to conflict. The conflict is caused literally by "what did He mean by this?" disagreements.
Jace Torres
The Middle East has always been a shitstorm, far before the British took over or got involved, we're talking hundreds if not thousands of years of being in a shitter. Middle East has been the best it's ever been since we ended the ottoman rule.
Jordan Bailey
>>Can someone explain to me the shitstorm that is the Middle East? >Islam >British Empire creating meme countries >American and Jews interfering everywhere There are a few more reasons, but i'm too retarded too remember them.
>>Why do Turkish people hate the Kurds? According to Turks they're the niggers of the ME. Never met a Kurd, and the only thing I know about Kurds is what a bunch of Turks on a Mongolian throat singing board tell me about them. Too lazy to research anything beyond them wanting a meme state of their own, which from what I remember includes parts of Turkey.
>>What did the fall of the Ottoman Empire cause? Too long. Go to Jewpedia.
>>What's going on with Israel? Shekels and terrorism.
Camden Richardson
>The Middle East has always been a shitstorm, far before the British took over or got involved, we're talking hundreds if not thousands of years of being in a shitter.
This has got to be the biggest delusion I've ever heard. The Middle East and North Africa were at the forefront of civilization thousands of years ago. Think Assyria, Persia, Egypt, Phoenicia.
>Middle East has been the best it's ever been since we ended the ottoman rule.
"Islamic extremism" is a relatively new phenomenon, and has been favored by the British and Americans in order to oppose secular Arab nationalism.
Trust me, my father is a Christian from Syria and has seen the shift for himself.
Dylan Davis
Keep posting here, I never get tired
Adam Wood
>The Middle East and North Africa were at the forefront of civilization thousands of years ago. Think Assyria, Persia, Egypt, Phoenicia I suppose it does all fall down to modern day Islam then. As the countries you listed weren't Islamic I don't think.
Kayden Gomez
Just research armenian history. Armenians were the jews before jews were a thing.
Wyatt Roberts
user isn't wrong
>The Islamic Golden Age refers to a period in the history of Islam, traditionally dated from the 8th century to the 13th century, during which much of the historically Islamic world was ruled by various caliphates and science, economic development and cultural works flourished.[1][2][3] This period is traditionally understood to have begun during the reign of the Abbasid caliph Harun al-Rashid (786 to 809) with the inauguration of the House of Wisdom in Baghdad, where scholars from various parts of the world with different cultural backgrounds were mandated to gather and translate all of the world's classical knowledge into the Arabic language.[4][5] This period is traditionally said to have ended with the collapse of the Abbasid caliphate due to Mongol invasions and the Sack of Baghdad in 1258 AD.[6] A few contemporary scholars place the end of the Islamic Golden Age as late as the end of 15th to 16th centuries.[1][2][3]
In fighting and stuff was just as bad as everywhere else. Foreign intervention did really fuck up the middle east. No 2 ways about it.
Daniel Foster
>be in large empire >people move freely around >empire collapses >there are no definitive national borders >most big cities that would serve as capitals have mixed populations >let the genocide games andf the ethnic cleansings begin
It happens everywhere Now also consider the fact that this is accompanied with numerous different sectarian religions