If fascism is so great, how come it has ultimately failed everywhere it has been tried? Germany, Italy, Chile, Spain

If fascism is so great, how come it has ultimately failed everywhere it has been tried? Germany, Italy, Chile, Spain.

Kikes keep financing its destruction because it dismantles their grip on media, finance, and the art.

my wife katya is so cute

If communism is so great, how come it has ultimately failed everywhere it has been tried?

jews

it didn't fail in any of those countires
It made Germany so great that the whole world had to team up to defeat here
Fascism worked everytime

this

I'm not a fascist, but your history is just wrong. Germany went from a crippling depression to an economic and political powerhouse in a few years.

>this triggers the antifa thug

it didn't fail, the countries doing it were beaten by other countries in war

Has not failed there was political war and the Axis "lost" apparently... the kikes with moneylending and esoteric blue pills fucked up our native people and subverted everything. actually it works very well

A little perspective.

Do you know what that symbol means, and why it's on the wall of our House of Representatives (Congress)...? It's the reason why I post here in defiance of what seems like an endless couple of years of "protest" across our country, combined with whining and bitching, and now "lets all block the cameras while we beat people up and collect checks from George Soros" antifa assholes: decision makers.

Yes, there comes a time when the whining and the bitching has to stop, and people have to make DECISIONS and the little people need to shut up and listen to the people who have been appointed over them and have made those decisions. It's the necessary power of authority. It will be the "No, there won't be another vote on this issue for another year" gentle decision to the "get your gang out of this street and stay gone, or you're going to get the jackboot up side your head." authority.

Hail the Republic!

>If fascism is so great, how come it has ultimately failed everywhere it has been tried? Germany, Italy, Chile, Spain.


For people living under fascism personal freedom seems attractive, so with time, both left and right wing shit will get popular. Is not that fascism isnt great, it's that personal Freedom is attractive, fascism is a boring, loving loyal wife. And when you live with here you are fine, you are happy, but you will get bored. and see the capitalist free market whore that wants you to do anal stuff, or the socialist whore that looks exotic and is totally into kink stuff

Fascism works very well for the countries and all kinds of people since their goal is Uber.

It's working great in China, It worked great in Italy and Germany until the war. It worked great for Spain.

Degenerate thoughts from a blue pilled

More than half of those are not even fascist. The Nazi regime effectively committed suicide by declaring war on everyone and Italy's fascism fell apart due to hitching itself to Germany.

The other three Chile, Spain, and Portugal were just authoritarian anti- communist regimes, with Franco mostly wanting to retain the old Spanish order.

Fascism at best will only last as long as its movement's champion.

It is a dead end. The greed of the elites made it so that instead of having a gradually more conservative society (see Japan and Taiwan) they keep playing kicking the can by not only wanting a large youth cohort but also by making that youth cohort consist of wildly different demographic stats than the main population and by adopting social trotskyism and harm- morality uber- alles.

We could have avoided this situation for two things:
1. Elites valued their sense of nation over money.
2. Education towards the excesses of harm- morality (French Terror, 20th- century communist regimes) as what has been done with how education with nazism has been used to squash the idea of the nation- state.

Because the free world fucked you up and burned your wives and children in their own homes.

We would stop at nothing. Even today democratic superpowers stand poised to destroy the earth.
>but so is everyone who can afford to be

>ITT: Sup Forumstards trying to defend fascism

saged

> Do you know what that symbol means,
It`s meme of a republic.

>Kikes keep financing its destruction because it dismantles their grip on media, finance, and the art.

show your tits. . .if youre 18 and above

It's unsustainable

It's not. Facists are idiots.

Antifa, on the other hand, is an alias for Anarchists; who are even worse and dumber than Fascists.

Just because there are two sides doesn't mean there exists a smart side.

it is indeed!

We don't need to hang it from every corner and wear it as an armband, and beat down with violence anyone who speaks out against the state, but we can take comfort in the fact that our government is based on good ideas and old traditions, and our leaders WILL make decisions when the time is necessary.

it prosper in russia tho.

Didn't fail here

>when you see it

Because it wasn't real Fascism ;^]

>thinking a form of government doesn't work when the country that applies it is destroyed by war or liberal bullshit

If this isn't bait, then I don't have a leaf on my flag.

Go huff diesel elsewhere, John.

Didn't know her. I'm in love.

This. Fascism is a movement more than a system of government. It's characteristic feature is the coalescing of all levels of society, business, and government towards national greatness, even at the expense of personal freedoms. This gives it great powers for 10-20 years while those who embraced the dream are on their prime working age, but those that grew up in the fascist system take it for granted. They never consciously have anything up to achieve greatness; they assume their nation is great by default, and instead of sacrificing to maintain that greatness they seek their own personal good. This leads to the collapse of fascism.

isn't katya getting CHINKed?

Chile is (or was) the most successful country is South America.

Singapore is (arguably) the most successful in Asia

Spain/Portugal were in a batter situation under facism than now

There is no facism in Europe anymore and you can witness how much it sucks to be here

It isnt great. Failure of fascism is invetable. Drumpf's fascism will fail too.

fpbp

It's the antidote, the Third Position, if you will, to (((plutocratic capitalism))) and (((Bolshevism)))

And capitalism... All civilisations eventually fail.

The only proven system is primitivism.

Communism and fascism are same shit different name

The people of Italy were so happy with fascism that they lynched Mussolini like a dog. But I guess all of them were Jews.

Fascism is one of his Words and as such it is to be.

In Chile doesn't failed, we got the best economic times also in Venezuela.

It didnt fail in Greece either...

you know it, ari

>that flag

I wonder what is the nose length behind this poster?

You know it's true. They just shot him and then people hanged his corpse and started to throw rocks and spit on it. Pic related.

Fascism didn't fail in Germany, Germany was defeated in a war and partitioned.

If fascism failed in Chile, why is Chile the most free and prosperous nation in Suid Amerika?

That's a guy

Because of the type of economic system it created. Fascism was essentially an attempt to go back to basics after the old order, the monarchy, had fallen a part. So they tried to recreate Imperial Rome. The problem with most imperialist powers is that their economies are entirely dependent upon conquest and plunder. Even the Soviet Union had an economy similar to this. By this point the world economy of the major powers had changed and was now based around finance capital and industrialization. The Axis Powers economies all but guaranteed conflict with the major powers.

So it didn't real fail. The world system just stopped it through military force. Later Fascist leaders in Spain, Chile, etc. embraced the new capitalist model out of necessity because they saw what happened to Hitler. But without that imperialist fervor to sustain them, they. didn't last.

If they would have won, it would have been an endless century of war and conquest. So Fascism does work. It's destructive as all hell, but it works.

The thing is true fascism has never been tried...

I think you mean the whitest nation on Earth.

Also, China is fascist and they are doing pretty good.

>b-but muh communism

The Party is Communist in name only. The means of production are not owned collectively by the People, money and the State have not been abolished.

Instead you have a fusion of private enterprise and State direction, with businesses being shut down if they get in the way of the State.

Now if China started to actually care about preserving their environment they could go full fash, but they realise that the omelette of prosperity needs a lot of eggs.

>HDI

get that shit outta here.

actually it was communists the Mussolini wiki page wont say it it says "Partisans" but Nicola bombacci was killed with him and on his page it says communist partisans and one of the guys who claimed responsibility also claims he was working with the Russians if i remember correctly

Franco died

Because Fascism is antagonistic and doesn't care for equal human life, which rightly pisses off a lot of people.

You may be right. I don't know who exactly shot him. But I do know for sure that the following happened to him afterwards: Good luck chalking that up to communist partisans.

wrong read the fascist manifesto

Also, fascism doesn't work because it goes against human nature...

Was that thanks to fascism really? Or the free slave labor? You know nothing propels economy like free gibz me dat workers.
Gemany did, but not with fascism. And it was few decades, not few years. Aka after the war was lost. They never were a powerhouse before the war started, nor during it, their economy was in the toilet, it's just their mentality and perfectionism that enabled them to occupy a few shit-tier, no defensive military at all shit tier countries like France or Poland at the time.
Really? I could see that being a factor in some more modern examples, but Spain? Do you people even timeline? Read about Franco. Doesn't hold water, but interesting argument.There are earlier examples too.
Agreed on this, there is only one type of situation where country may benefit from introducing fascism. But sadly, fascism doesn't know when to drop their authority and go back to democracy level, which is what makes it the "fascism myth" to begin with. Most of Hollywood blockbuster movies were based on this myth, from Avatar to Star Wars.
>State is in moral decay, economic collapse, or both.
>An individual appears, just a normal, ordinary guy, but with qualities of a true leader.
>He takes power (even though he doesn't want the power, and is not the type to be about power and authority lol), and then he fixes everything that went wrong, at any cost it takes, including self-sacrifice.
>When crisis is resolved, the glorious leader pulls away from the leader/chosen one seat, and goes on to live a normal, anonymous, happy life.
Q:What makes this fascist myth a myth? A:The fact that power corrupts, and that none of those "ordinary guys destined to become champions of their people" always become power zombies that can't get off the chair until killed by enemy or their own people.
This is both why fascism and communism fail, they didn't count in the human error factor.

same shit you stupid cunt.

they are both failures

tits

Fascism failed because of geopolitical miscalculations of Hitler
Communism failed because of the cold war
Liberalism won, globalists thought it was the end of history, and finally now they find the first morsels of resistance in trump

And btw, "my fascism is perfect, it only failed because kikes" is pretty much just as non-argument as saying "muh communism is great, but human nature is too backward to make it possible atm. When humans evolve more and a place happens where people properly apply communism for the first time it will be the most superior ideology ever."
Get back to the real world, Sup Forums. We have Le Pen to meme into presidency, and see what we can do about Germany, they are already stealing our memes.
The redpill is not always = "what majority thinks" pill. In fact, it rarely is. Just like outside of Sup Forums on the big playground, same goes for inside Sup Forums. And saying your ideology fails because kikes is just not acceptable. If you can't make your ideology work in spite of your enemies, then your ideology fails. If all your examples lost or failed, it doesn't matter how, they failed because they were not viable.
And just to say high to newbie fascists, pic related, welcome to the land of arguments. We don't give safe spaces no matter how edgy you think you are.
You have to find jing to your jang, and all that jazz. Bash your inner fash. Punch the nazi on your shoulder whispering you things. And, of course, gas the kikes, that one is ok.

It didn't failed it lost a war. And pinochet is not a fascist
>inb4 true scotman

It doesn't collapse on its own, it keeps getting warred on by non-fascists

>Being this fucking gullible

>Or the free slave labor?
I assume you're talking about the Jews in the work camps, but that didn't happen until the war started
He's saying that germany was great and powerful before the war even started, and it was

Chile and Spain were never fascist by the way they were capitalist military dictatorships

It didn't fail as a system; the Axis alliance just lost the war.

It's like saying democracy failed because France got conquered by Germany.

Every single example of socialism and communism implementation all failed due to internal collapse from unsustainable practices and corruption.

The most successful implementation of fascism failed due to combined aggression from multiple foreign powers and other external interference.

>Chile
>Failed
Literally made the country great again and then there was a peaceful transfer of power to the old structure, needless to say we are heading back to shit tier once more under liberals

Because fascism is socialism, which is communism, and communism is fail.

>the Italian symbol during the war was literally a faggot
No wonder they were the worst army

>people in this thread unironically have no idea what or where a fasces comes from

Fucks sake what is the jewery? Antifa being dumbfucks is expected but the good people of Sup Forums as well?

Troubling times...

>it doesn't work because they failed to defeat the entire world launching a massive human wave attack at them while they ran out of oil because they lived in a country that has none

If NatSoc had happened in a resource rich high population country like the US or Russia they'd have won the war and would very likely outlast capitalism

Failure in war =/= Failure in Ideology

I thought it was a faggot in the original sense whereas faggot here means bundle of sticks

Isn't it some ancient roman thing?

>over 9000

No, sorry but it wasn't. It may have been great compared to other shit countries at the time, but it was far from great, that's what gave room for fascism to come into power in the first place.
And yes, sorry for not being more specific, I was talking about work camps and other stuff, like Germans working for free; I agree, though, all of that started after the war began.
If it was great, it wouldn't have collapsed from ripples of Wall Street market crash that enabled the nazis to start climbing the ladder. It hit/ruined pre-war Germany far worse than it did to the country it happened in. That on it's own should show that Germany was not in stable state.
But desu, I'll give credit where credit is due. The thing is Germany was still paying unfairly huge reparations for WWI, and on top of that, had economic trouble of it's own. The sneaky thing about capitalism is that it's own failures hurt indirectly countries on the other end of the world far worse than they hit their homeland. In a way, US market crash and Wall Street bankers were just as guilty for start of WW2 as Hitler was.
People who are starving vote with their empty bellies, driven by desperation, instead of their brains. Plus it wasn't just democratic voting that allowed Nazi party to rise, it was a coup that they organized too with those black shirt dinosaurs or w/e their muscle ally party was.

>This. Fascism is a movement more than a system of government. It's characteristic feature is the coalescing of all levels of society, business, and government towards national greatness, even at the expense of personal freedoms. This gives it great powers for 10-20 years while those who embraced the dream are on their prime working age, but those that grew up in the fascist system take it for granted. They never consciously have anything up to achieve greatness; they assume their nation is great by default, and instead of sacrificing to maintain that greatness they seek their own personal good. This leads to the collapse of fascism.
This

but so is everything in the long run. even the universe.
but there's one thing we know for certain, it holds water economically speaking- and on a far longer run than all sorts of socialism and the main narrative lets the people cherish the moral imperative of success. the well written laws are such that they keep us from straying into radical feminism, materialism, multiculturalism and all other pains of globalism. laissez faire and communist internationale are two sides of the same coin. but global culture cannot exist and cannot be coherent. life, liberty and happiness aren't rights, you are born with a debt to society and if you want to live in a civilized one you should obey. otherwise, go into the wild. fascism is still the best of bad. living together in any way possible takes compromise, and those always mean somethign gets taken away from you. if someone could ever explain fascism thoroughly for all nations of the world to learn and perserve their values within their borders, there truly could be peace on earth.

The fact that they even went to war, endured and caused massive casualties, showed their powerlevels in public, all this kinda cucked both Germany and the rest of the world into becoming this safe space PC heaven. Because people started associating racial awareness, or racism however you wanna call it, with imminent threat of violence and death. They basically triggered the world out of being open minded and back into dark ages as far as being open-minded goes. Just as much as feminism did. Idk which one did more damage to open discussion and exchange of ideas desu.
And don't kid yourself, Russia is one of the best, if not the best country at defending, but they are no conquerors. USA maybe, but USA achieved that and dominated the world even stronger with democracy, they just made a choice not to wage war on everyone, because governing the whole world and turning it into one Empire is not even that good of a thing to have. Mongols got it and lost it in 1 generation, and retreated to where they came from. Romans got it, and got destroyed not long after. It's a pain in the ass, most super powers/ super states want to dominate by show of force and least violence done possible if they can, so everyone votes the same way they at the next and every UN session.
Last thing to take into account is, lot of countries and even superpowers will tolerate your superpower deciding on sanctioning their country on trade or something, something they can live with and still prosper. But try to take over the world in a literal way, and even your allies will turn against you, or at least half of them. That's why I don't believe any single power could defeat 2 superpowers (no matter who attacks, you have China/US/Russia, the other 2 will ally against the aggressor) along with a bunch of countries that will try to defend, be it because kikes paid them to or someone organized a resistance in each country. The more time passes the more likely you're to lose.

>Because fascism is socialism, which is communism, and communism is fail.
Lolwhat? nigga you high

A good point, comrade. We should go for communism instead.

Isn't it amazing how much young Castro looked like Liam Neeson?

Who is that grill? I've seen her picture on Sup Forums before. She's so beautiful.

Btw, 1 post by the OP id. Maybe we should sage it and call it a day, I enjoyed the discussion and all for lolz, but bait is still bait.

Everything on Sup Forums is bait, Marko.

Lmao, Chile has never even been facist. Pinochet was as free market as posible, the only thing is that he didn't like commies and didn't need elections.

Imagine her with a whip, that wouldn't be bad.

Fascism is at its core capitalism. It is to capitalism as what national socialism is to socialism. Well it is a bit more complicated, but there are differences.

Ivan, nice to meet you, Jamal I assume, based on flag?

((((them))))

it worked greatly

Huh, I guess jews are the true master race then.

Today is the 71st anniversary of the death of Milan Nedic,Serbian Nazi collaborationist and leader of the Government of National Salvation.

>t. Aaron Cohen

>Germany
Hitler made the worng move and killed himself
>Chile
Commies voted No and he was rejected to continue
In both of these cases it wasen't facism the one that failed, but the leader, and then the fucking commies who dodged the helicopter won
Don't know about italy and spain to.