When UBI and automation become a thing and there's no real scarcity, what's to stop us from just being massively degenerate and partaking only in physical pleasures?
If I get paid to do nothing, why wouldn't I just get a hot girlfriend/wife or prostitute and do nothing but have sex all day, go out on a lake to relax, go on walks or go hiking, eat, sleep, and repeat the process?
>UBI and automation
It'll never be a thing, socialism doesn't work and automation doesn't lead to less human work, it leads to different human work. Like from when we went from agricultural to industrial or from industrial to service.
Trust me. That gets boring.
>UBI
>prostitute
i would make it my job to rid the earth of low intelligence beings like you
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Yes you are free to be as degenerate as you want
catch:
we're not there yet, not even close
it'll need to be after the technological singularity
so stop daydreaming and more wagecucking
What do you think humans will be able to do that machines won't be able to competently in, say, 2050, outside of science, engineering, philosophy, mathematics, music/entertainment endeavors, basically anything involving creativity?
^This
With automation and UBI we will be able to put people who don't have jobs directly into death camps.
I don't know, but since you admit that there's at least one field in which human will have the advantage then that's at least one job they'll have and since UBI doesn't work and automation will result in bigger wealth it means one person per family (working in a creative job) will be enough to support the family maybe even the extended family, but work will still be needed. But I don't think human labor will be unnecessary, that thought has existed since the industrial revolution "soon we'll be a society of recreation" that no work will be needed only machines handling machines and one human pressing a button to make all the machines work.
Yet this hasn't been the historic reality, imagine two farmers talking about how machinery will render human work useless, sure from their perspective they can't imagine jobs like machine worker or programmer or any of the jobs that hadn't existed 50 years ago. Just because you or I can't see new types of jobs doesn't mean humans will become useless or that a post-scarcity society can exist, or that socialism works.
Theocracy's will take over
>there's no real scarcity
Are there retards that actually believe this horseshit?
>all farm-able land on earth is either being farmed or has/is having housing built on it
>100% of cheap oil sources are tapped and being extracted
>global oceanic fish stocks are are on the verge of collapse from overuse
The only thing that is going to see its value completely collapse in the next 50 years are sub-95 IQ humans. UBI is less likely than capital punishment for petty crimes making a comeback.
>what is your body and the space you occupy
rekt#
This wont happen. UBI and automation should scare the living shit out of you. What will sooner happen nearer our lifetime is machines taking away minimum wage and service jobs. Walmart, oil changes, fast food, deliveries, banking, transport will ALL be automated meaning real people will lose their jobs and have no money. UBI wont just be implemented at the right time. Theres going to be a carrying over gap that will make or break the fabric of society. Many will vote against it. But even when it does a man without purpose leads you down dark paths...Its going to be chaos.
>imagine two farmers talking about how machinery will render human work useless, sure from their perspective they can't imagine jobs like machine worker or programmer or any of the jobs that hadn't existed 50 years ago.
You do know they have driverless tractors now that can prepare, plant, and harvest a field? Automated sprinklers and GMO seeds have made farmers jobs so much easier. Most of them have a second job now, or just hobbies because they only work a few hours a day.
This shit is coming, and is already taking over many industries. The real problem is people wont admit they're useless now and that UBI is the only way to fix it for us.
>all farm-able land on earth is either being farmed or has/is having housing built on it
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>100% of cheap oil sources are tapped and being extracted
are you still in 20th century to care about oil?
>global oceanic fish stocks are are on the verge of collapse from overuse
yeah, but our worm farming is in inception
>Most of them have a second job now, or just hobbies because they only work a few hours a day.
How can you be this stupid? You clearly say automation leads to people getting new jobs or working less for the same wealth then say UBI will be needed. Also if no one has jobs who will the government tax to get money for UBI?
This faggot knows nothing
UBI is just autist for communism. More of taxing of what its productive to, in this case, subsidize the literal non-productive subhumans that occupy todays ghettos.
Get back to me when UBI solves creating enough additional farmland to feed 4 billion retarded africans were expecting by 2100.
Achmed, in a few decades after you are done genociding the last of the real germans, there will be nobody to fund your welfare/UBI anymore, and your going to have to make a living just like your dad did back in turkey sucking dicks
God her tits are fucking amazing
post scarcity is a meme, you mong.
Says the guy who's people's dna are infected with pathological altruism and are being conquered by low intelligence people. There's a reason Stockholm Syndrome is named after you.
too bad she's an idiot
Believe it or not, you'll get bored of it and instead get interested in finding meaning, or building something that's never existed. It takes a few years to get over your hedonism. But eventually, if you are not attached to anything, you don't want the party lifestyle. Something also that's interesting, is that hedonism seems to be a gateway to wanting peace. Both the Buddha and John Lennon started their lives with huge fuck-fests, and ended their lives wanting peace. It's kind of like maslows hierarchy of needs. First you need to fuck lots of chicks before you realise that there's more to life than self-indulgence.
Also, many successful people do basically relax all the time. It's the hard work crowd that's always poor. We don't really need hard workers anymore. What we need are people who can solve small problems as efficiently as possible, so wealth can be created, and our lives can improve. Grinding has its place, but someone with a better method is more valuable to everyone. That inspiration requires relaxation and fun. UBI would give so many more people a shot at that life, and might create way more wealth than we are expecting.
>>UBI is less likely than capital punishment for petty crimes making a comeback.
This won't happen in any country with plentiful amounts of firearms in civilian hands and police officers who aren't suicidal. You think the average cop wants to risk death over somebody having a dimebag of weed on him or hiring a prostitute?
> Implying I care about a woman who looks like that's opinions or mental ability
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