MGTOW is fucking cancer and it's destroying our culture

How do we solve the MGTOW problem? I was fine with it when it was just angry, bitter incels venting but now it's spreading and infecting perfectly capable young men into opting out.

Fix women

>How do we solve the MGTOW problem?
You don't.

>a bloo bloo why arent men willingly walking into slavery like they used to
Bitch more faggot.

Fix the family court system and women/MGTOW will fix themselves. Remove

> no fault divorce
> alimony
> kids auto going to mom

And you have society again. Feminism/Liberalism is a cancer that is slowly destroying Western civilization.

fpbp

Enabling women by putting pussy on a pedestal is the worst thing you can do.

Gas the kikes

fpbp

>i.e. JEWS

The MGTOW dudes have a pretty good understanding of a lot of aspects of women. Though, they do completely the wrong thing with that info and chose to be bitter crybabies.

Instead of using those infos at their advantage to seduce a girl marry and breed her, thus accomplishing the primal goal of men that is ensuring a descent to its lineage, they become disgusting manwhores who cries like leftists that they should have the right of being hedonistic cunts, just like the womens they hate.

I think that it is inherently a leftist mindset. See, for the russian christian existentialist Berdaiev, there are two main point of view you can take in front of existence, the aristocratic or the plebeian one. The plebeian approach consist to always ask for more rights, wether it is in term of social or economic life. It is mainly a parasitic view, who consider the external world as a stockpile of various pleasures that should be at his own fingertips. While the plebeian ask for rights, the aristocratic view always ask for more duties. Because duties is what define freedom, it is the affirmation of the individual subject in front of the rest of the world, who screams to express his individuality through the duties he respect and defend. It is mainly a creative approach, because the subject in front of the world, always work on his own individuality and chose what he should respect and what he should not, he isn't tied to the world and don't depend on it for his own happiness. Rather, the source of his happiness is the own individual code he try to respect and share with the world. While the patricians always ask for more duties, the plebs always ask for more rights.

Instead of taking those infos as a way to better accomplish their duty to be a husband and a father and to maintain the name they receive, they cry because they see that womens have more rights and that they should have them too, just in the same way transgenders cry for more "rights".

>tfw you spent your twenties on 2d waifus

Spotted the unemployed welfare fag.

yessss good goyim do not reproduce stay in your basement keep making anti sjw rants and zelda lets plays

i dont really think any of that is going away unless there is some kind of civil war.

that said, if all those remain, is there any hope?

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thank you merchant. you are my greatest ally.

MGTOW is the answer to the the degeneracy of the world. It's not a solution to the degeneracy, but it's an individual solution for a man to shield himself from all the bullshit all around.

I mean
>men attacked on every front
>always lose divorce
>have no say in abortion
>victims of imaginary rapes
>status of women degraded so much they lost all their value

It's no surprise men act that way.

You Are one to talk france; you cant even demand a paternity test to not pay for some guys sperm spawn in your wives

Bring it on. Its the one part of our culture that needs to be destroyed. Women are gross and irrelevant. Legalize arranged marriages and polygamy. Make it so only a man can initiate a divorce, the man decides custody, child support and alimony and asset splitting are no longer a thing.

Those are the only ways.

I can't officially agree with you so the Canadian stasi dont haul me away for " hate speech " but I too see how coincidental it is that in everyone of these categories people with precious metals in their surname are involved.

> is there any hope

Yeah, I am finishing university and going to move to Poland as I am a dual citizen. This country is only going to continue to decline. And I want no part of it, God forbid I try to raise a family in this Marxist shithole.

Spotted the entitled whore.

>he wants to turn his life into a meaningless hedonistic void where he has no children and therefore ultimately it is impossible to fail, because the consequences of failure are only ever a minor imposition toward the next hit and not truly existential

Literally cucked into oblivion.

Justice system reform to remove the pro-women bias in family court. Crack down on false rape accusations and charge the women who make them under slander/libel/defamation laws.

Improve the tax benefits for marriage.

Do what the arabs do.

HHHHHAAAAATTTTEEEE SPEEECCHHHH

>poland

how hard is it to move over there?

MGTOW was always thing, think monasteries.

>tfw you spent your twenties on 2d waifus
Taking the 2d pill was the best decision of my life.

It's not a problem.

We are about a decade away from being able to incubate humans in a plastic bag from donated sperm and egg samples.

We can make more than enough superior white folks by the million, using production line techniques, as required...

Soon.... soon...
Patience, youngling.

cont
marriage needs to be about securing a mate and a future for a female. The system needs to be set up so that they need us more than we need them.

>asking for paternity test
>marrying a non virgin girl
>having sex before mariage.
>not being catholic

Your problems, heretic. My wife and I were virgins before our marriage. We plan on having a child soon, keep on ranting on imageboards instead of accomplishing your duties.

We are building a "deradicalization centre" for white people who are racist

I have no idea if you aren't Polish. But I have Polish parents and ergo a Polish passport. I speak/read/write the language. And once I have a Canadian education, I can find work easily as Ill have a masterful command of English and a decent command of Polish.

Poles actually care about Poland and preserving Polish culture/race. Which I admire, Canada disgusts me.

This. Some men have always been keen to the evil that is human sexuality and how females who are naturally parasitic steal from the white man and use sex to do it. Today, as men have gotten more informed they now understand that fapping is way safer for your health and wealth than fucking a whore who badly needs a stoning.

>How do we solve the MGTOW problem?
Make marriage worthwhile for men.

The problem with that is that the woman can leave, take the kids, then sue for 50%of the man's assets/alimony/child support. With that kind of court bias in place, there are heavy legal risks involved with reproduction and very few benefits outside of the subjective nice feel of being a parent.

Proud to be a fit, 25-year-old MGTOW earning $200k.
Enjoy your cats, cunts!

Spot on man.

>How do we solve the MGTOW problem?

Solve the woman problem and MGTOW will work itself out. This is a natural reaction to modern-day women in Western countries.

>why not just kys shitlord?

Literally this. Modern women are basically men with vaginas.

Why should i find that appealing?

I can just go hang out with less annoying make friends and pay for an escort every once in a while if i really really need to fuck.

>infecting perfectly capable young men into opting out.

this isnt true, youre all incels..

>men who don't put roastie on a pedestal are the problem

really makes me think

Why contain it? Let the roasties pile up in the streets, the sound they make screeching for attention will serve as a warning to the rest

I'm engaged to my best friend, if he went MGTOW all of a sudden, I'd die. The MGTOW thing is bitterness towards feminist craziness mixed with a lack of general self-confidence. It can only be solved through bettering society in general, thus making people more optimistic.

>Roastie assblasted that mgtow is actually working.

>The post

Women are not men with vaginas. If that were the case then maybe more men would fuck them. Instead women are worse than men in every way.

I am not gay, I have taken the 2D pill but women today have no redeeming qualities relative to 2D or other men(if you are gay)

Less Intelligent
Weaker
Slower
Less Creative
More Susceptible to Indoctrination
Lazier
Less Productive
etc.

Aka dismantling feminism and fixing the system so it isn't not only rigged against but antagonistic toward men.

>catholic monks
>thinking that " the evil that is human sexuality and how females who are naturally parasitic steal blablabla "

You are so dumb and so ignorant of the basic catholic dogma that I don't even know where to begin. This shit is some cathar/gnostic view on sexuality, because for them the natural/physical world was created by the bad demiurge wheras the spiritual world by the true God, hence perpetuaing life and having childs was seen as bad because the physical/natural world was the work of the devil, and men and women had to become asexual and pure spirit through initiation. Wheras in Christian dogma, the world being the work of God, having childs was always seen as a duty towards God. They have other ways to honor God, through spiritual struggle in monasteries for instance, and the path of a non-reproductive life was possible, but never the monks thinks badly of having childs, you dumb fuck. The Catholic church even start a crusade against the cathars for their retarded ideas on procreation and the natural world.

It's genuinely liberating. If you struggle with feelings of loneliness and inadequacy just make the jump to 2d only. I get all my sexual and emotional satisfaction without the disappointment and embarrassment that comes with dealing with 3d whores.

>become disgusting manwhores
My understanding is that, if anything, MGTOW are more cautious around sex than the average man.

>hedonistic cunts, just like the womens they hate
MGTOW generally don't hate women who sleep around.

>The plebeian approach consist to always ask for more rights
Yeah, like the MRAs. MGTOW don't need any more rights or anything like that, we're simply going our own way.

>the aristocratic view always ask for more duties. Because duties is what define freedom, it is the affirmation of the individual subject in front of the rest of the world, who screams to express his individuality through the duties he respect and defend.
lol no, this is some mental gymnastics, duties =/= freedom.

Well that's sort of what i mean senpai.

Women today lack all the female properties that make them appealing. They aren't soft, caring and thoughtful.

They're shittier males. With vaginas.

Treating symptoms doesn't cure the illness.

>how do we solve the MGTOW

crusading

Bitch plz. We MGTOW are optimistic, we gots the Waifus now. It isn't even shameful now to have a waifu as a good one in statue form, or a gatebox could run you thousands of dollars so society can't shame you for being lazy if you got a hot waifu now can they?

Yeah. Divorce sucks for all involved, and the reprocussions should be entirely piled on men.

>Poles actually care about Poland and preserving Polish culture/race.

This. If you can get past to perpetual sulleness and lack of hobbies other than getting drunk, they're a good bunch.

>While the plebeian ask for rights, the aristocratic view always ask for more duties.
>the aristocratic view always ask for more duties.
>Literally asking to be a wageslave
good luck with that

Has MGTOW actually been spreading or is it still just a meme?

It's pretty cancerous but it's possible to MGTOW with out even knowing

No hope. Things are only getting more infected, women refuse to give up their advantage even when that advantage is destroying them and everything around them.

You are deluded, my friend. Poland, Middle East, Japan, doesn't matter. Cancer in a finger, in a foot, all part of the same body.

and what is the percentage of virgin women in france below 25?

You Tradcucks make me laugh every time.

That hologram thing is pretty cool, but I think the first full on waifu/husbando bots are only a few decades away, so I dont holograms are the be all end all.

Sup Forums is to races what MGTOW and co are to women; both look at the same shekel, just from 2 different sides.

Where I live I have the luxury of taking my dakimakura out and nobody says a thing because I am wealthier than most of the small town I live in, as I work as a remote software developer. Times are changing and taking your dakimakura on a date will be normal everywhere.

guess im screwed then. im black and was born here. its either going back to where my parents are from (dont really want to do that) or stay here and get fucked by islam

fpbp

>lol no, this is some mental gymnastics, duties =/= freedom.

Yes, living according to duties is being aristocratic and truly free. But not in the sense that your disgusting anglo-saxon mind can understand it.
The real aristocratic isn't define by the faggotry that consist at playing jockey, drink tea and having good manners. Sure, it could have been the external aspect of it. But inherently, an aristocrat is someone that manage to follow Christ's path, and indeed the Lord ask for nothing, give everything. He is free, by doing so, because he lives tottaly by his love and isn't a slave to his pleasures. What you call being free, the man that cowardly flee from the imperative of marriage and reproduction, is in fact a slavery, because he decide that to have more pleasures, and his slave to his instincts, instead of being subject to morality and to the real spiritual law.

Giving up on the main aspect of life because you want to have more pleasures and you find it too difficult is a criminal and plebeian attitude.

>We plan on having a child soon

Why not now? My wife saved herself for marriage and it still took us 3 months of trying before conceiving. Also pray a novena or Rosary asking for a baby since it is ultimately a gift from God.

> 26 Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they? 27 Can any one of you by worrying add a single hour to your life?

Don't worry about a finances either, I was a still in my final year of uni when I got married and everything will work out fine if you place your trust in God.

fibby pibby

Feminism is the problem. Women are never held accountable for their actions. Most attractive women sleep around until they're 29 or 30 and then want to settle when their looks fade. I hate theredpill fags but they're usually right. Women are the problem, not men.

I don't think more people are necessarily adopting the exact label, but based on my own observations the average guy is noticing the same faults they point out and following some of their tenants without even knowing what mgtow is.

Revoke women's power to vote
Stop giving all our economic opportunities to the third world
Adopt a proportionalist divorce laws (you came into the relationship with 30% of the assets, you get 30% of the assets at the end. Stops gold diggers from being able to attach themselves to a rich guy and suck him dry, while also ensuring that women who get married young to another young guy aren't completely screwed.)
Respect the family

You're black?

You can automatically become a betabux dispenser for any white grill effortlessly. Doesn't that sound appealing?

>it's spreading and infecting perfectly capable young men into opting out.
As it should. 3D women are not important. I will stay together forever with my wife Syaro-chan.

We don't talk about having duties towards the state or towards work, it's what you and your retarded anglo-saxon friend, with your childish understanding of human life and liberty, who you associate with the right to do a thing without the bad and evil state prevents you from doing so.

The real duties at towards yourself and the moral law, towards God and towards love. And following those duties makes you free, while fleeing away from it makes you enslaved to useless pleasures.

Read this :

This. As I've matured from a teen to a young adult I have began to understand the importance of duty and love for your country. My PM tells me there is no Canadian identity, so fuck him and fuck these neo Marxists.

I'd rather earn less in Poland but know that I'm contributing to the nation and nurturing the next generation. I feel no connection to Canada despite being born here. I've spent a few years in Poland, that's my home. That's where I am headed.

This place is getting more pathetic every day. I think most anyone worth a shit stopped coming here years ago. Just the same pathetic bait threads over and over.

It is spreading very fast. Mostly in the Anglo Countries, Japan, and maybe France-Italy(Lots of mommas boys there). I worry though that pussy will become looser if there is more MGTOW and the less intelligent, and the hornier among us will fuck these hoes.

> Remove male responsibility from the equation

This is not the answer. Family court is designed to fuck those men over who cannot lead their households. MGTOW, modern feminism, and family court are symptoms of the same problem, which is the rise of the submissive male. The Western male needs to assume responsibility for his shit. MGTOW is an all out resignation from this.

That sounds so nice. I'd love to take my daki out, but as it is I would almost certainly get abuse hurled my way. A couple of my friends know of my waifuism, but it would feel great to be completely "out and proud" as the homos say.

ROASTIE

I wouldn't call myself an MGTOW. But I haven't met a woman who interests me, who would be willing to put as much into me as she expects me to put into her in my life. I haven't even found a woman who interests me in years. I'd love to. But I haven't. American women live in fantasies, not reality, and until they come back down to earth, this is going to continue to escalate.

here your future fin

Go back to the country of your father. Struggle and build it up. Our nations are both poorer than Canada, but life isn't about money. The feeling of bettering your homeland for your people is worth more than the Yids could ever give you here.

Nationalism is the way forward for the world. Every people having their own home and working towards improving their lot in the world. Whatever you choose, good luck mate.

This.

Because she's in a really stressfull year and sadly she have to work since I'm still studying. I finish my studies this year and start working in some months. So it will be soon possible, but for now it will be too stressfull for her.

Congratulations for your child,

>Christ's path
kek
Christianity is a meme my friend, started by a failed apocalyptic prophet.

Mark 13:30 (Jesus, after describing his second coming and the end of the world)
>Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.

Matthew 16:28 (similar passage)
>Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.

>claims the people he is speaking to will live to see the Second Coming.
>2000 years later we're still waiting
>woops

Genetic failures follow feminism and MGTOW. Let them.

Where to start user?
Recommend media?
I promise not to steal your waifu.

You don't understand. The risks here in Canada outweigh the benefits.

Marriage here is literally just a shittier version of roulette. It doesn't matter if you're white, black , asian, whatever. All men get fucked here by the legal system. The system won't change, so the logical path ( if you plan on staying ) is hedonism.

But I'm not staying and I don't recommend it either. If you're in Canada abandon ship and let the Caliphate happen. Build your own nations.

Based Germany bringing the 2D love as usual.

We're truly blessed to be born in this time and age. WAIFUS WILL BE REAL SOON.

Fuck Reagan.
Will bring this up next time somebody tells me he's some sort of conservative hero.

>implying i don't worship a lesbian couple

Being cucked by lesbians is NOT degenerate.

>If a man doesn't have a marriage, it must mean he does not have enough resources to attract a mate

Typical roastie thinking. Well done idiot.

I understand plenty. Everyone who opts out is a fucking pussy.

If you take the time to pray more together and completely abstain to lead a holier life then putting off children for a bit would be acceptable. St Therese parents did that for a year (or two?). But don't fall for the NFP meme, all the early Church fathers were against coitus without procreation, a letter to midwives by Pius XII doesn't hold much weight in terms of doctrine.

He came into his kingdom after the resurrection. Went straight to Heaven according to Christian theology.

Between this, the 1986 Amnesty, and the fact that his economic "miracle" was just a stupid financial bubble, I'm beginning to see that Reagan was definitely a putz. A failure. A loser. His one good thing (a hard stance against the USSR) only sped up something that was happening anyway. He really was pretty useless, wasn't he?

Who cares.

Raising kids a shit. Those guys get it.

Good counter argument. You sound like someone pressuring a kid into doing coke.