So I have been researching the American Revolution and the French Revolution and it seems to me that America is losing...

So I have been researching the American Revolution and the French Revolution and it seems to me that America is losing the principles hwndu of Self Evident Rights and Freedoms vs Reason and Social Justice of the French Revolution. The American Revolution was about limiting goverment for the sake of Freedom. While the French Revolution was about giving government absolute power for the Common Good. I'm surprised how the roots of Socialism go all the way back to the 18th century and how much of it has been trying to seep in into America.

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Interesting discussion to have - rather like student loan debt in an abstract way.

french revolution was a disaster

English vs. French culture.

American Revolution was Christian while French was Atheist

We went from a government of self-determination to a tool of the holy lands.

Social Justice is about equal outcome rather than equality of opportunity

The American Revolution was so Christian the founders thought separation of church and state is important.

>separation of church and state
Then why didn't they put it in the Constitution?

>The American Revolution was about limiting goverment for the sake of Freedom
We had another revolution. Tthe attempted break-away nation lost, so we call it a civil war. In this revolution, it was about maximizing the freedom of the government for the sake of preserving the union versus limiting of federal power. The side wishing to limit federal power lost.

Federal power still remained pretty much limited up until the 1900s

They did. It is called the first amendment. There is no state religion unlike in Europe at the time.

It doesn't say separation of church and state
They just thought religion was a state not federal matter

>The American Revolution was so Christian the founders thought separation of church and state is important.

For the purpose of protecting the church from the state, not the other way around as the fedoracucks would like you to believe.

There were two french revolutions user, technically 3. The first was about fuck the government, the second was maybe the old government wasn't that bad after napo fucked up, and third was yeah fuck the government, again.

>We had another revolution. Tthe attempted break-away nation lost, so we call it a civil war. In this revolution, it was about maximizing the freedom of the government for the sake of preserving the union versus limiting of federal power. The side wishing to limit federal power lost.

THIS. People don't realize we're living in the 3rd American Republic. The 1st ended with the Civil War, the 2nd ended with the New Deal.

the american revolution was about a bunch of marxist cucks rioting and looting like the dumb fucking niggers they were.

No it was about not letting people take our guns

t.monarchist
the french revolutian was necessary at it didn't acomplish enough every country of europe should have had at least one Robespierre

New deal kinda ends with Trump.

they were marxist cucks destroying private property.

Yeah the French Revolution was pretty much the catalyst for socialism.

French revolution is a complete fucking disaster and the King should have never been killed.

French Kings were known for being absolutely adored by their people, they even opened their palaces to commoners. Anyone could talk to the King. Foreign diplomats found that weird.

The republic destroyed local French cultures, traditions and fucked over the Church, paving the way for degeneracy. It's also republican leftists who wanted to colonize Africa, with the consequences that we see today (French people being replaced). It's also the Republic that sent milions of young peasants (mostly catholics) to their death. I can go on, but the French Revolution is an absolute fucking disaster.

Fuck off you don't know shit about our country

The new deal era ended with Reagan

how does destroying your enemy's property make you a marxist?

GUYS PLEASE STOP DOXING PEOPLE AND FINDING OUT THE TRUTH
ALL YOU GUYS DOXING ARE CTR/QA/ANTIFA FAGGOTS
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>New deal kinda ends with Trump.

Trump is still a wildcard on economy issues IMHO. Better trade/manufacturing is good, but we don't want to subsidize shit industries and do make work programs like during the great depression. I am confident that behind the scenes Trump is more pro market than he lets on, and willing to what needs to be done (take power away from unions and reduce regulation) to bring jobs back.

Well aktschually it was christianity that's the catalyst for socialism. After Gutenberg printed the bible there developed cults of proto communists who took the bible literally, especially those psalms about rich men being less likely to go to heaven than a camel going through a needle hole. Those guys got stomped pretty hard though.

they were dumb niggers who wanted freebies and hand outs. When the government refused to give it to them, telling them they had to get jobs and go to work, they rioted and looted and destroyed it like dumb nigger crybabies.

>French Kings were known for being absolutely adored by their people
Then why was their a revolution?

FR was a mistake. Down with the pleb """"""""values"""""""

Actually the revolution was started by the bourgeoisie which indoctrinated people to hate the King and the Church.
Also, when they executed the King, they didn't want a referendum because they knew that he would have survived.
Lots of people tried to resist to the revolution, see Les Chouans


Anyway, our revolution was due to our philosophers who took inspiration from your philosophers, so fuck you desu, the English are our greatest ennemies and they will be forever.

How many """brothers""" does this guy have?

Welcome to the party pal

And now instead of being led by the Church we're led by the masons and the jews, much better desu

Oh. Wait. Shit. This is a sneaky HWNDU thread. Lol. Totally missed it.

BOGANON -- if you see this. Was good meeting you yesterday. Nice job with Mitch the Fag. It's a pity I wasn't able to stay longer, as you've been skillfully destroying Paper.

-Meribane

>freebies and hand outs
citation needed

(((they))) started the revolution, not Joe Frog

You're getting warmer, user. Now look into how all these revolutions were organized and funded by freemasonry. Learn about their goals. What is the "great work"?

Lastly see how international jewry is inextricably connected with them.

damn just actors on the hwndu stream today. Sad!

Heard the argument what fueled the revolutions was the dutch, because they had very liberal copyright laws and printed books like crazy, which powered the rennaisance and the rise of western philosophy.

nice blog post bro, upboated

Interesting way to sneak the HWNDU thread.

Anyway, Bogdanon is the fucking best, hopefully he can troll Stolen Valour for a bit

The people during the terror were almost as nutty as our sjw's.

Scary thought.

Is naruto going to go back to the stream?

>>>>>nazi recruitment ground

Yeah they also had a role desu
Most protestant nations had a role in our revolution, as you guys are much more materialistic and really love money

Being from the UK, this stream is a really good way of hearing the opinion of loads of different people in America, even papers (when theyre not chanting) it shows the opinion of the average Joe over there rather than the politicians, it makes for something really interesting, personally I think that all these people have a core belief that the government's not working for the people but none can decide on the way it's not working or the reason it's not working, if they could realise they have that common ground maybe they can push forward and help each other out

they literally refused to pay for the goods that british businessmen were selling. They wanted everything for free. They couldn't even go one sentence into the constitution without inserting their marxist idealogy of equality.

Please believe Paperbois words, aight? He's there to spread love, he even said it on camera LOL!

Yeah, bog is my new favourite character for sure.
Paperboy told him he was a stripper and he somehow kept a straight face.

Probably not, unless he wants to confront SV and his double chin friend. Plus he probably got banned from the place

Meribane you're a good lad. You did well yesterday.

The new deal was revolutionary? Explain

>there are people that didn't believe Bogdanon wasn't in their top 5 /ourguys/

I'm guessing you are unfamiliar with the Treaty of Tripoli which was signed in 1796

>As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.[78]

Or are we going to subvert American values because it is politically inconvenient.

This was definitely true for the Hanse and the Foggers and all those other german merchants.

Yup, the English shit at the beginning was extremely exciting about French Revolution, but later on horrified about how it went, started to praise their monarchy. English crap.

Also for non Americans like us it's nice to see what real people think rather than watch Bill Maher or Fox news.

>mfw We fucked up so bad

He thinks that saying "spread love" equals loving your neighbor

>HWNDU

comparing violent war to vid related?

youtube.com/watch?v=0CS9XHNPNbk

Dear Heavens, OP! You are the least faggot of all OPs ever. I am glad to see someone else recognizes that there were differences of principle between the two revolutions. Many Europeans and now, sadly, most Americans are unaware of this.

Dude, there are just 2 types. 1 the bluepilled libs 2 the redpilled fags

Exactly, rather than seeing the manufactured perspective of TV stars, Film stars, Politicians and Musicians it's real people living real lives sharing their real opinion

>Welcome to the party pal

And?
see

how do we allow papergoy to blatantly lie

]he just straight up lies

Thanks. I appreciate it. (Some of infinity still despises my rejection of JQ lol)

keep in mind the stream is located in the most bluepilled city on the east coast, and people still recognize the truth.

The French Revolution gave birth to many things we hate today.
>sexual revolution
>social justice
>class warfare
>feminism
>State Atheism/Anti-Christian sentiment
>laid the framework for Marxisim.
It was an atrocious affair.

American revolution was more moderate. It mostly happened because people living across the world didn't want to be ruled by a king they never see, and certainly didn't want to pay his taxes.
At the same time, Americans were very devout Christian exiles from Europe. So they didn't want to go FULL degenerate like France did.

Most of the freedoms they gave to the Government and to the Church were to prevent what was happening in Europe from happening in the USA.
>the King forcing you to be in his church
>people rising up and destroying the Church because it is associated with the king.

But what the American revolutionists intended, and what it has led to are two seperate things. The French/Russian revolutionary mindset is what dominates here now. Mostly thanks to lies about who the American settlers were and what they intended.

wtf is stolen valor's endgame?

to turn into a nigger.

That's why I blasted music over him.

>thinks revolutions are started by the common people
>this bluepilled

The French Revolution was directly inspired by the American Revolution and the American Constitution, so the catalyst for socialism was actually the birth of USA.

Big guy. Keep fighting the good fight

Not at all, I've seen retardation on both sides, just as I've seen valid points being made by liberals and Republicans.

Restore the monarchy with The House of Bogdanoff.

where fuck is OURGUYS

Fuck em to be frank. You were there you stated you pieces eloquently when you spoke & drowned out HAHA paypurrrr yeahhhhhh when he started shilling.
You're probably an under appreciated character but I really enjoyed your arc.

That's what's so surprising about it, I thought there would be so many more Shia supporters and bluepilled idiots than there are

They cut all those bogdanon redpills AGAIN!

>Treaty of Tripoli

Yes, and the Treaty of Peace and Amity, signed after we pounded the Barbary States' shit in after we built a capable Navy didn't contain any such language. Maybe, just maybe, we were biding our time by sucking up to slavers while we still had to.

>Or are we going to subvert American values because it is politically inconvenient.

And those values would be?

You can't remove God from the notions that founded America. That is not to say we should have a state religion, just that Western, Christian, notions of natural rights and decency are inherently tied to the founding of the US.

Unless I am mistaken it seems like our current administrations position thinks otherwise.

That was a bit of diplomacy to mollify the crazy muslims than a statement of actual belief.

yeah you're right. but according to the left, believing in smaller limited government makes you a racist because muh minorities can't get dey gibe dats

Can Sup Forums recommend any decent books on reactionary views to the French Revolution?

Can one of ourguys bring up cripple chan in front of her

that white girl kneeling behind paper and valor wants to get bukakked by hood niggas

Not a book but,
orthodoxchristianbooks.com/articles/336/-jews,-masons-french-revolution/

yo what's going on with /outguys/? are they getting doxxed or something? give me a run down.

Ok but what does that have to do with the 1700s?

I'm disappointed in all of you...

Pic extremely related

our*

Just need to shoop one of their ugly mugs into that famous painting of the Sun King.

she sounds like a gangster cripple prob got shot in a shoot out vs the opps gs9 bobby schmurda

I'm out, unfortunately. Got a real life that needs tending to. Wish I could be there longer, bringing increasingly larger speakers to drown out paper.

>kneeling
>literally crippled in a wheel chair

Politics are just like sports for amerifags

>Actually the revolution was started by the bourgeoisie

And that right there is why the (((commies))) want the bourgeoisie gone for good.

They know the threat that group can pose when it finally decides that money isn't enough.