Are Republicans Wrong About Devos?

are we being fooled into even more Socialism

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hey if it trigger's democrats I'm okay with it

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>betweenthewaters.com/2017/01/trump-fooled-school-choice-is-not.html

so i read that article and I'm still wondering where the arguments are. I don't know anything about this "school choice" b.s.

but that article certainly didn't help me understand the author's concerns.

This is sloppy writing, sloppy journalism, sloppy argumentation. I'm willing to believe that DeVos is a shit pick of ED, but this was certainly not persuasive.

Probably. she's "the swamp". Education is obviously not an issue that Trump is that concerned with.

which is unfortunate, because currently our public schooling literally doesn't teach kids anything.

Who's she fighting against to get a confirmation?

The fucking huge teachers unions that have crippled entire economies like the one in california where Arnold tried to make changes but were handcuffed by legislation that forced 40% of the general budget to go towards education whether it needs it or not. That's why throwing money at the problem doesn't work, they just hire fucking administrators.

Almost no one will agree that public schools work, they have failed for decades. Even liberals cannot deny it. Schools have attendance policies and truancy policies to ensure kids are forced into public schools because of no one goes to public schools, they won't get federal funding or even local funding if you have 100 teachers and only 12 students, you don't think they would cut down the amount of teachers or shut down schools and absorb those students to neighboring districts schools?

She's been successful in implementing charter schools so schools compete. No more forcing them to attend schools just because they're the closest ones. You can take your kid to another better school and that school gets funding to expand while the failing school shuts down or replaces it's faculty. These teachers unions are cancer. They even pay for legal defense of known pedos teachers because the unions have to defend each member. These unions destroy entire industries but when it is funded with taxpayer money, the money is endless.

The "controversy" and resistance is all the teachers unions scumbags who wan dat fundin n dem cirriculums

About 98% of teachers deserve to be gassed, to be honest

DeVos supports government welfare leech(aka charter schools). Don't support her.

>She's been successful in implementing charter schools so schools compete. No more forcing them to attend schools just because they're the closest ones. You can take your kid to another better school and that school gets funding to expand while the failing school shuts down or replaces it's faculty.

topkek.

Everybody love their public schools. Why do you love corporate schools that much?

My biggest problem with DeVos is that she wants to replace public school with failing corporate schools. Corporate schools DeVos supports in Michigan are some of the worse schools in the country.

How about this article:
freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2014/06/22/michigan-spends-1b-on-charter-schools-but-fails-to-hold/77155074/

>A Sault Ste. Marie charter school board gave its administrator a severance package worth $520,000 in taxpayer money.

>A Bedford Township charter school spent more than $1 million on swampland.

> A mostly online charter school in Charlotte spent $263,000 on a Dale Carnegie confidence-building class, $100,000 more than it spent on laptops and iPads.

>Two board members who challenged their Romulus school’s management company over finances and transparency were ousted when the length of their terms was summarily reduced by Grand Valley State University.

>National Heritage Academies, the state’s largest for-profit school management company, charges 14 of its Michigan schools $1 million or more in rent — which many real estate experts say is excessive.

>A charter school in Pittsfield Township gave jobs and millions of dollars in business to multiple members of the founder’s family.

> Charter authorizers have allowed management companies to open multiple schools without a proven track record of success.

These are all in Michigan where DeVos regime surpreme.

australia has a similar system to what california has (you go to the closest school, no exceptions unless you move somewhere else, you qualify for another school zone, or you're smart enough to go directly to uni or to a specialist school), and it's absolute shit if you're not rich.

i was poor growing up, my family could only afford a place in a shitty suburb, and i was forced to go to a school that had a bunch of kids that were fucking subhumans. i nearly dropped out, i would have jumped at the opportunity to go to the school the next suburb over that had wealthier people. but no, i had to withstand getting jumped every week because the government saw it fit that scum like me don't get to go to a better school, because fuck equality.

competition is good.

Fuckin oath m8, they want a monopoly of education for their cunt unionist teachers doling out their leftist dogma.

True desu
>tfw my shitty neighborhood got lumped into a great school district on a technicality

It's clearly subterfuge in her struggle for power and wealth in our corrupt political system. Why else would she want to be a Civil Servant? Good Intentions of the unqualified? The president's cabinet is supposed to be the best and brightest the nation has to offer in order to lead the country; it's not supposed to be a GD kickback/endorsement/presidential access lottery.

competition is good but you also need to set minimum standard and accountablity.

DeVos is not suggesting that you could go wealthy school in the suburb, she suggesting we build another failing corporate school in your neighborhood so you could have another terrible choice.

DeVos is heavily invested in those corporate schools. It won't matter if kids learn nothing because she will still profit from the kids.

this

Public school is modeled after the Prussian education system. It's designed to make you into a gullible serf. My public school was a nightmare, like describes. Most teachers are mentally ill, footbinding sadists. The whole concept of public education is bait to mask the reintroduction of slavery and caste into society. Ancient Romans only taught roman numerals to peasants, so any decently educated person could run circles around them at the bargaining table with Indian numeral math. Undereducation en mass is the real goal of any public "education" system.

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school vouchers means letting niggers and spics attend white private schools.

liberals only oppose this because of muh teacher's unions

school vouchers are government funded busing for private schools.

I can defend almost everything that the Emperor has done, but the woman's a fucking dipshit. Like major league dipshit.

Correct.
Which is why there needs to be Regulations, not to the extent that they are oppressive, but without them, profits trump everything for greedy people; even at the cost of your environment, your health, and your liberties.

I admit there are a lot of corruption in teacher union and there are also a lot of terrible teachers because of the union. However, I don't believe the corporate school model she setup in Michigan is good thing.

It's not just teacher union who opposed DeVos.
Massachusetts Charter Public School Association and Eli Broad, another charter school proponent, also oppose DeVos. They don't want to associate with failing corporate schools DeVos have setup in Michigan.

There need to be public school reform but DeVos' model is not right way to do it.

K-12 should replaced by competency exams and/or certs. It's currently nothing but a black hole of money.

i grew up in a lower middle class neighborhood in california and my parents snuck me into the rich people's public school instead of the ghetto school i was supposed to go. needless to say, i turned out way better than the kids on my street who went to the shitty assigned public school (they also recently announced all the kids were exposed to asbestos for years). ghetto public schools in america are third world.

Charter schools are the way forward.

I would love to go back to teaching, and the only way I would even dare put my neck and future on the line again is in a deeply conservative, MAGA type district, with an administration of real men, who wanted to raise sexually dimorphic real men and real women, instead of the post boomer Marxist gulags masquerading as '''''public''''' schools.

Forget that the teachers that have been there for awhile are retards (I'm from CA so I know how bad the unions are) but I just got out of college and the people getting degrees in teaching aka 99% of them are females are the fucking WORST.

They're all idiots who have no idea how the real word works and they still at like they are in college because they still tell me how they go to work (teach) hungover.

I'd nuclear her. If you know what I mean.

>professional liberal salt miner.

This cunt never even attended a public school. Literally any first-year teacher is more qualified to be Secretary of Education than her, a position that shouldn't even exist since schools are a local issue.

They had a bunch of spics ripping out asbestos in my winter quarter, while we were attending school! Asbestos would blow in the wind and deposit on the ground where everyone lined up for the bus. No one seemed to give a shit. There was also too much pedoshit to even bring up. K-12 is fucking evil. It sucks the humanity out of people.

That's one candidate I'm not a fan of because it's seems like she bought it.

This is true to be honest.

Liberals want to dump endless money into schools when more money does not equal better results. This is to preserve their dumbfuck teacher's union which protects worthless teachers.

DeVos just represents people who want to fleece government for the same bottomless well of cash. Her schools were shitty and they got terrible results too.

Trump is in a bind tho because the only real way to fix the public education system is to weaken the teacher's union and failing that you have to turn to snakes who want to game the system. An actual reformer who can get shit done probably isn't possible.