US has mandatory 0 vacation days

I just searched "list of minimum annual leave by country" and United States has ZERO mandated vacation days. How are you so fucking cucked? Literally signing your life away into an early grave working for Mr.Shekelstein.

Because if I don't do the job under horrible conditions for shit pay, some beaner will
But don't worry, we're fixing that

What? I have 1 month paid leave I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.

>tfw no 35-hour work week like France

What I don't understand is how it came to this point? Like.. is the meme about everyone in America thinking of themselves as a temporary embarrassed millionaire actually true? Is there any working class consciousness there at all?

I'm talking about government mandated vacation days.

>preach nigga
although if youre in a salaried job the skypes will figure out a way for you to work more for the same money

Virtually everybody gets some type of vacation anyway even without needing a law.

Oh well there's Christmas day and thanksgiving day.

Because working hard is valued as a good character trait here in the US and our capitalist system has exploited this. If you call this out, then you're a "complainer" and no one likes complainers. Our workforce is cucked and are too "proud" to be redpilled about capitalism.

why should the government decide things that should be managed by unions and individuals?

Because I'm literally surrounded by people who demonize you for calling out the Jews.

What the fuck am I supposed to do?

Moving to another country makes the problem worse. Staying here and getting crucified by (((your neighbors))) is just as bad.

Why do you think we're on Sup Forums?

Yeah ill admit this much but also, the same complainers that earn less deserve it for not having the drive to move on up. Get fucked complainers.

you get plenty of vacation time and if your company doesn't convert them to extra pay or carry them over then yes you do have mandatory vacation days.

We have so many niggers we cannot risk giving them days off work to go loot, riot, rape, murder and pillage.

Keep the groid working and the groid has less time to burn down cities and chimp out.

This
Get fucked maplecuck

>implying they work.

>Get a job in the USA
>be richer than 80% of the globe
>bitch about vacation time

If you can't make it and not spend it to allow yourself some time off, you're fucked.

The determination of Koreans is really something I admire. It's just a shame they have no personal identify to complement their consent to order.

>muh government
You're cucked beyond belief, my man.

What unions lol? Either way, even unions, and espetialy individuals will not have the same leverage as the business owners to negotiate fairly for their employees

Nigga please

Thats an interesting point

This only matters for zero skill jobs

>Espetialy

>forcing people to take vacations.
It's like you want your country to be unproductive and full of lazy people

>I am free to negotiate with my employer depending on my particular needs
>Not needing lots of sick days because I'm not a pussy = more competitve than sick fags

Freedom is best.

Yes, but a lot of companys do overwork their salaried laborers, and business'men' alike. We value a hard earned dollar, because we have no choice but to work for it. Even at the cost of our family relationships.

...

Vacation days are offered based on how long or how well you work there. It's around 80% of private companies that offer paid vacation days.

Because getting paid time off to fuck around is not a Human Right YOU FUCKING GOMMUNIST PIECE OF SHIT LEAF WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU YOU PROBABLY SUCK YOU OWN COCK WILL CRYING FUCKING LIBERAL PIECE OF SHIT

The cucks have arrived

This is one thing I wondered, do a lot of jobs in the US allow you to gain paid leave hours?

>What unions

You do know that the US has unions right?

And fairly powerful unions too, right?

Unions powerful enough that they can decide the infrastructure of entire states, right?

Unions that have so much power that you can't set up cameras or put in lightbulbs if a union says no or you aren't using a union worker, right?

And it doesn't matter if they don't have the same leverage, what's fair is what each person's labor is worth. If your boss isn't going to give two shits about you because you're a retard applying for as professional shitscraping career and there's going to be 2 million guys behind you who'd take the job with no vacation days then that's what your labor is worth.

Good. Why the fuck should I pay some pothead days he isn't working? This is America. We have the highest GDP out of any country because we work harder than all you other gooks. Git Gud faggots.

>if the government doesn't mandate things they don't exist
Maybe you should've looked up "average vacation days".

Except that's not how it works.

My contract does include vacation, and sick leave and other stuff ARE mandated.

My job let's me rack up hours. I get 1 hour a workday.

Worthwhile workers get paid time off, everyone in this thread bitching is a minimum-wage peon. Any job that isn't the equivalent of a burger flipper or register jockey has all major holidays off as well.

Honestly, I like it this way. I don't have to worry about places being open ever because a lot of services are constantly open, but with my job I get vacation days built in.

You can always move up out of working every day anyway, there's nothing stopping someone who is busting tables every day from working their way up the ladder.

If you don't want a job with vacation days then don't accept it.

If I want to work without vacation for a higher salary, why should the government stop me?

>It's the human right of an employee to get paid to not work an arbitrary period of time each calendar year

yeah but they can say shit online
without getting party vanned
and carry guns
they have more freedumb then we do you stupid cuck leaf faggot.

Ah right, basically the same as my job.

Unions? This is 2017,, Unicorns

No man, its just that here we realize that people deserve who put in work deserve some rest and shouldn't be stuck like hamsters in a wheel for the whole year.

So how are these types of things actually negotiated in US? How did you do it?

I get 160 hours of paid vacation per year plus 80 hours of paid sick leave. it all depends on the job.

I don't want a vacation. I enjoy working.

Leaf is on to something.

A bigger problem is how we're reduced to "contractor" designation, even when we are categorically not true contractors. This built-in abuse drives down wages and at the same time shifts structural costs on the actual worker. Another "tax" on workers is the odious system of 'headhunter' job placement leaches.

But hey, Schlomo needs to boost the stock price somehow...

They're part of the shit you sign when you take the job

And FYI, even the shittiest jobs include at least some allocated vacation time and sick days, VOLUNTARILY, as it should be.

Unions have lulled the working class into a false state of "stuff is getting done to help me". Its the same strategy used to keep niggers from chimping out too much. Give them a little somethin somethin and they'll stop giving a shit.

Also the united states is not a country, it's a federation with mixed soverignty.

Yeah et me go in detail.
I start at 2 weeks vacation, 1 week holiday time off, and 1 week sick/personal leave. Is this the same as yours aussie bro? Probably better I'd bet.

>Liberals
>Believing you "deserve" to get paid because IT'S MUH HUMAN RIGHT

Precisely why you keep losing over and over, proxyfag.

You moron.

The world started without any labor laws, it's not so much how it got here, but how we haven't fixed it yet.

>The government should have a hand in everything

Americans have plenty of vacation time without it being mandated. Also, Americans don't get immediately arrested for criticizing muslims. And they don't get their doors knocked down for criticizing the "refugee" influx. They also barely have speed cameras. The more I live in this country and compare it to other countries, the more I feel like it's the land of the free. Commie healthcare is not worth the state you leaf and euro cucks live in.

t. Bush-era Republican

Yes, and for my job at least any I don't take I can basically convert into "extra days worked" for more money, and from what I gather this is pretty common. Basically, you're expected to work hard, but you make more if you do.

I get hours based on how many hours I work, someone I work with who hadn't taken time off in years, had over 700 hours of leave built up over the years, he ended up taking around 10 weeks off to get rid of some of it, the amount of hours I make can easily get 3-5 weeks off a year.
Thats' not including with the base of I think 60 hours of sick leave yearly, I could be wrong about that one.

Thats what I mean, why should it matter if I'm working a minimum wage job, or a part time job, or a temp job? A man should put in his hours of good work, and still have some time to rest in a year.

So did you actually negotiate how many days you got or HR gave you a contract said "sign here" and you signed?

Same but only allowed 296 hours total.

>4747

CHEKED EM!

>implying neocons don't have a bonner for the welfare state

Im not a proxy fag you retard, and I dont think people "deserve" to be paid for not working. The very situation this thread covers is that WORKING PEOPLE in US seem to have 0 mandatory vacation days, although US anons are enlighting me on the intricacies. But still, I expected every person who works to be covered and not have to negotiatiate with the skypes and their hr 1 on 1.

I've never had a full time job without vacation days.

Because not all labor is of equal value. You want money, work for it. You want more out of life? Bust your ass and get a better job, that's where superpower nations come from.

vacation days? bro we work, the more money you make , the more leisure time we have. fuck off faggot . also work is pretty dope

>the government has a right to tell me I can't work
>the government has a right to thus limit my income

fuck off commie

>Anglo economics

Sad

>I have no rights but let me pretend that I have freedoms - the post

I'll admit, I just signed on to a major entertainment company and they have PTO set in place, mind you its a multibillion dollar co. But, before ive had a rough time as a sever working for restaurant franchises and basically taken my own time off,,,, out of pocket. They work the shit out of you, pay 2.13 an hour, give no benefits and make you pay for others to work beside you, then double tax you on top of that. Total bullshit. Anyways, I'll admit its a set in the direction I can feel proud of.

>socialism

Sadder.

Damn man yours is the exact situations that I'm wondering about in this thread - a person does good work, but has no leverage to negotiate things like vacation time with the skypes by themselves. Good to hear its going better for you guys, but you people need to do something about this. Wikipedia says literally two places in the world have no mandated vacation days - US and Micronesian Islands.

>not wanting to work as a slave for a rich guy is socialism

American education

>cucks
>canada has to be told my his master how many days he can take off
cognitive dissonance at its finest

>America has to be told by his master how many days he's allowed to take off
>meanwhile the government guarantees I get a minimum amount of days off

want a vacation, quit
Easy life.

god bless America, my fellow hard working rich guy. these lazy fuckwits thinking someone should pay them not to work. more for us I guess

Except that American companies offer PTO to anyone better than a service industry drone, probably more than you get working at your Tim Hortons job. So not only am I, personally, better off, but my country is a superpower that still has gold reserves and routinely bullies yours. Oh, and hate speech isn't enshrined in law here, and I can use the money I earned working harder than you to buy guns.

Yeah I'm a new nurse and I get no vacation at the hospital I work. I have to "work" to build up my vacation time. I'm part time so every two weeks I get 4 hours. I'm also required to work every other weekend and every other holiday....hoping to find a better job once I build experience.

he means the government should force your boss to giveyou paid leave even though you have it already without the use of force

Every full time job I've ever had came with vacation days. Usually you have to work a 6mo probationary period then you start out with a week off and after a few years with the company you'll get a few weeks.

Some places don't do paid time off but almost anywhere you work full time has some way you can take time off to relax or do whatever.

I like to look at it as "employers have the option to give as many as they want"
Many do, just try and not work somewhere shitty.

What are you talking about? Everyday is a vacation to us NEETs.

35 hours? How do they get anything done?

>60 hours? How do they get anything done?

t. user, c. 1860

>50 hours? How do they get anything done?

t. user, c. 1880

>40 hours? How do they get anything done?

t. user, c. 1900

>35 hours? How do they get anything done?

t. user, c. 2017

>2.13 an hour

What? That can't be true.

Shutup leaf you're making other sensible leafs look bad

Nobody owes you a vacation faggot.

I'll be honest, I think the way we look at work in the US is fucked. We measure productivity by hours put in, not work produced. People, especially office workers, seem to spend 1/3 or more of their time fucking off talking about things not related to work or browsing the web or something.

Last place I worked they didn't give me enough to do to actually fill the time I was supposed to be there. Everyone else just dicked around and I guess they were fine with it. Well, I've got shit to do at home and I don't want to sit at a desk and decorate the walls and gab about the ball game. I want to do my job, get paid, and go home not live in the office.

Here's the thing though... one thing our government DOES mandate is lunch breaks. So even if I'm not that hungry I have to have to take it. This means if I(and this happened) needed to work x hours that week but I needed to get home early I couldn't opt to skip the lunch break and go home that much earlier. This is just one example but gov mandates just get in the way more than they do good.

>you either have the government put a gun to your head and tell you to take a vacation, or you work every single day of the year
Socialist education, everyone. If it's not mandatory, it's forbidden.

Amen

For jobs that work for tips its legal. If he doesnt make minimum wage in tips, he gets paid the difference.

Thank you for a detailed, sensible answer

That kind of talk right there is why Trump won the election.

And there is no "real" world. There is just living and trying to be happy.

If we want to argue the real world, you city folks have no clue what it's like to live like I do.

I've got 50 chickens, 15 hogs, three dairy cows, and 6 acres of land I farm for my own benefit.

Aside from internet(which I can live without), I have officially become 100% self sufficient last month.

I live on a well, my power is drawn from a homemade windmill, I have plenty of iron to make the tools I need, I have a foundry, and soon to have a wife.

You city folk only know life by living off of others, you know nothing of struggle and hardship that isn't self inflicted.

You city folk think you're so high and mighty, so important, like you run the world.

Except you don't. The earth runs herself. You folks in the city keep addressing self inflicted problems, and making them worse. You city folk have an opportunity to make millions of dollars with your big corporations.

I don't care about big corporations, I don't care about getting the most updated things. I only care about the things I can make, and the means of surviving in the most natural and humane way as possible.

Go fuck yourself, yellow belly.

Nice pasta, and if its not you completely missed the point.

That's not what he's saying at all, you double nigger. He's clearly stating that it's better to have the pleb-tier vulnerable faggots who work shit jobs be guaranteed at least a few days off, to be supplemented by other days, than it is to have a situation in which some people are forced to work every single day. I don't even necessarily agree with him, but nothing in his post said "Americans all clearly get 0 days off hurr durr."

If your claim is that you all negotiate for them anyway then it makes no difference if the government gives you a free 3 days per year off. It's hardly creeping socialism anyway.

Anyway our country is actually not that much more socialist than yours is anyway. Your government literally socialized your body as a commodity for the draft so you have to go die for Israel (top cuck), ours has a lower corporate tax rate. Enjoy your shitty upside down socialism with none of the benefits and all of the nignog food stamps.

>"Anyway" 3 times in 2 sentences

Alright fuck this, it's bed time.

We're the greatest country in the world because we don't have stupid shit like mandated vacation. Forty hour work weeks are another thing that are retarded. How are you going to get rich if you only work forty hours a week and then take six weeks off in a year. Get on our level you sluggards. Think of how much we could have accomplished if we didn't have the nigger problem.

More like 55 hours/wk 2017.

You know why none of the top companies on Earth start outside America? Cause you lazy ingrates would rather work for benefits then work for progress and innovation.

THIS mentality, is why Canada will always exist in better countries shadows. Enjoy your 3 months vacation, your $8 bread, and your $1.5 Million for 1,200 sq ft home, you mindless pro-gov drone.

>Virtually everybody
Instead of literally everybody?