What breaks a man?

Hey Sup Forums there are a lot of young guys around nowadays who have no motivation/ambition. What caused this? how do we fix this?

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jew bringing 100 million niggers and mexicans to our country caused it.

Why should white people work when everyone hates us and leeches off of our tax money. Fuck the ystem, let it collapse then the leeches will leave and find a new host.

The jews know this is about to happen, so they need Trump to destroy Iran for them quickly, then they will have succeeded in destroying the west and using us for everything we were worth first.

Reward center malfunction...

Porn, video games, drugs, fuckn candy

You sold their jobs off, you let women go crazy, and tell them they suck and are not needed.

Speaking for myself, it's really hard to push past:
>the addictive escapism that surrounds me and which my peers all accept as a normal part of life instead of dangerous
>the feeling that the whole existing system might collapse, making my progress meaningless
>the antidepressants that make me feel okay all the time, so I have to remind myself to care about my future

This is perhaps the impetus of it all

This is a side effect and not the root cause, the point above this one gave rise to escapism.

crippling student loan debt and no job prospects

are you sure its not the 100% stream of digital media entertainment constantly keeping young people in a suspended reality

I mean sure we had TV in the past but even then the sterotypical "couch potato" had been born and it was given a negative connotation, now though, children are encouraged at verry oyung ages to engage in digital activities and social media

And its not even considered taboo or negative for children to watch TV all day or play video games(it keeps them off the dangerous street where the undesirables roam), a media jews wet dream can ya believe it

personally I feel like western civilization is in a weird mediatory stage waiting for automation to take all of our jobs.

we know in a decade unemployment is going to be 30-40% due to automation and that is only going to increase

strange times, but interesting at least

it all spawns from masturbation
not joking
stop jacking-off and you will feel better faggots

Yup, personally I find it hard to push past the feeling that in order to have a good time I need to be in an altered state. High, drunk, whatever it is. It's certainly taken a toll on my life as a whole, but it's always so easy to make the decision to keep on the same path.

Hard to find motivation to write anymore outside of work. Just want to come home and dull my edges for a bit. Maybe I just can't stand being by myself anymore. I wonder what changed.

The newest generation, despite my previous post, is pretty redpilled imo

Gen Zyklon will be the saviors of the country if the leftists don't manage to indoctrinate them by the time they reach college

i feel this user, i think we really need more meetups so we can actually have friends and like-minded people that we can be around, would be better for all of us

This.

>NEET
>have all the time in the world
>spend it in front of crystal clear HD display, hooked up to the internet with all the luscious booty a man could ever need
>jerk off gets you the instant reward, without the effort
>rinse and repeat daily

HMMMMMMMM

>What caused this?
Participation awards in school. There is no awards for real life, infact real life sucks some times, so neets just hid in their Call-of-duty play land and never enjoy real life.

I really believe this. I see a paycheck as a my weekly award. Should I continue to participate, I will continue to get my check.

Neets can't seem to grasp loss, and will make up excuses about how there are no jobs etc....There are jobs for them, they are just feeling like they deserve better because they are wonderful at everything they do.

>What caused this?
Internet
>How do we fix this?
Mandatory military service

yeah I'm around generation zyklon every day (I'm a teacher for the time being)

I don't think they're exactly "redpilled", but they grew up on the internet. And this means they don't like being told what they can say, think, and do.

There's a reason why they say nigger, heil hitler, etc. Because they've been told they can't say those things.

They're the ultimate free speech generation, they don't give a fuck about taboos that the retarded millennials put in place

I have zero motivation because I'm most likely going to be a convicted felon on Wednesday because of some dumb cunt. I have lost all my guns, my car, my job and my apartment. I had to move into my grandmother's house at 23. I really don't give a shit about anything now. The f they give me longer than a year I think I'm just gonna take myself out.

the fuck. what happened?

Slave away to make money youre too busy slaving to spend.

There have always been alphas, nerds, and omegas.

Before the Internet connected everyone you didnt hear about the later much

It's death by 1000 cuts for a white man.

What happened, user?

Let me guess. False rape allegation?

Take away a man's challenge's, and reward for ambition, and you break the man.

To fix: remove socialism.

Can't really get into detail. If I end up getting probation I would do an ama on here once sentencing is done. It's an interesting story if I wasn't involved.

Lack of greater purpose/nihilism in society.
As soon as we had the cognitive capacities to go beyond: "Me eat, me live", we had to create religions or system of beliefs (early religions were close to druidism and shamanism). This, gave us a sense of purpose and we went on from there, living to achieve our religion's ideal.
Post-religion, we had a swift shift towards nationalism and patriotism: the greater purpose was our nation and/or state. This inevitably led to a disaster, as in dire times we lose faith in the state.
The moment the states became gods, we fucked up, as they are not benevolent gods and seek no other goal than to become the greatest, even at the expense of everything else.

So, nowadays, living to the "god" ideals is to become a mindless working robot so the state can function, the ideal is to become the most efficient gear in a complex machinery. This is truly how you kill a man.

And I'm not even religious.

Nope, I'll just say cucking gone wrong. Turned into other non rape allegations to cover up infidelity.

Leave them behind, for they'll drag you down to the abyss. Their eyes reflect dullness. Their faces representing disinterest and boredom. Their mind has no inspiration, innovation, lacking critical thinking, and even creativity is absent. They have no desire to move forward, inspiring others, and making a name for themselbes. They just want to get on by, living off the stories and glory of fictional protagonists that they want to be, but will never attain the effort to set progress.

They're already dead

i believe in you user, it is very possible to live a great life after jail, but it is really in the mindset, check out Buddhism anfd nihilism, personally i now get great joy from doing anything i used to hate doing, i get joy from struggle, life is truly amazing

Something to do with vaginal jew? Damn, at least my autism protects me.

Dont be a bitch man. Plenty of people did longer stretches than that and turned their shit around. Look at Danny Trejo the actor (Machete) he did like 11 years and multiple felonys and the dude is beloved.

>"why so many young men dropping out of society?"
>"what happened to (western) women?"
>"what can we do about (western) women?"
>"older (used) women are better because X. be a man"
>"get a submissive asian wife"
>"great women were built by men"
>"get a younger wife"
>"if you're not 6'X" then Y"
>"should manlets gas themselves?"

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Thank you for the daily dose of hope teacher user

I mean I grew up on Sup Forums from age 13 saying nigger to all the blacks on call of duty

How are they different?
Born in 1994 btw

>What caused this?
poor education that leads their useless cerebrae to follow one shallow slogan after another, all ending in cul-de-sacs that leave them feeling defeated and bereft

>Cause
Jews
>Solution
Final

>life after prison
I know a guy who was/is screwed in every direction. Former drug addict, spent time in prison. The guy is extremely high energy. He has a young daughter now and beautiful wife plus a house and debt free.

Current job market. I mean look around, hell look at yourself. Statistically speaking, it's likely you're unemployed or work some shit job.

well a few things. one is that you're not too far from gen z compared to the oldest millennials that are 35 right now.

and two there's a split in millenials. There's people like you who grew up on xbox live where saying horrible shit was funny and had a since of comeradery. your group also spent time posting messed up shit on Sup Forums and other places. the rest of the millennials went to shit like tumblr and reddit. Where they learned dumb shit like "microagressions" "mansplaining" etc.

Gen Z things the latter is lame as fuck. And Gen Z includes probably 5x as many gamers as millenials. Seriously maybe 90% of gen z plays vidya even the girls do. And so they grew up thinking people like you were funny as fuck and thinking the other millenials were lame.

I see.There is definitely a feeling of escapism i.e porn video games and drugs making every thing worth struggling for irrelevant. This whole problem of nihilism and lack of ambition seems to be rooted therein. The reason that this must have been so effective in destroying young men is that these things are so normalised

>Everyone's playing videogames man, they get me through the day!
>Porn and masturbation are perfectly normal and healthy man, what's that, can't get hard anymore, just take these meds...
>Legalise weed man, it's good for you! cures depression, you know...

This

Go to a meeting, user

>implying happas are real men at all

single mothers and divorce

Well, I was watching the news tonight.
>We need to give money to Maori gangs so they can help solve the P epidemic in our country (despite being the main pushers of the drug)
>Women need to be paid even more: "my mum is a cleaner and my auntie is a cleaner and their wages are shit." (I guess women cleaners should be paid the same as male doctors because vagina).
Turned it off there.
Basically, I can't function in Western society anymore.
Have a masters in physics. Will head over to Asia soon.

Lack of purpose.

What reason is there to get out of bed when you attend school to absorb information that will, in many ways, be worthless to you in the future?

What reason do you have to go to work at a fast food job, feeding an already obese population, or working as a stocker at a store so someone can buy a new gadget?

There's very little push to be motivated or ambitious. What rewards would one reap after they sow their lot with their labor?

It's a mix of hopelessness and lack of direction.

Make housing more affordable. Work then seems more worth it. Why work hourly when it gets you fuck all but some shitty room mates?

As a NEET I can tell you that what you said certainly doesn't apply to everyone. Or even many people.
The reason I don't work is not because real life sucks. It's because my life doesn't suck. There is a big difference between the two.

Pick something life changing and do it. Move to a new town or city. Delete your kikebook and start over with new (((friends))) and a new (((you))). Get a different job or maybe joint the army reserves.

I have done all of these things and feel much better. I think people suffocate on social media and around the same crowd people. 99% Friends are like toilet paper; they're not meant to be reused

NOOOOOOO DON'T LEAVE OCEANIA

But honestly man, I understand you. The world our society has ceased to function as it should. Women are outta control and minorities are dominating us I our own homelands. However I believe that the Ambition-less western untermensch is the cause of, not the result of these things.

Think: Would guys like Julius Caesar and Alexander the Great have put up with shit like this? Would the guys in the Grande Armee? Of course not, because they were men who knew how to act like men, not because they were talk, but simply because it was their instinct, they weren't prohibited by the degeneracies of our day, and as such they could keep the society in order.

We need a return of real masculinity and a dumping of the degeneracy that destroyed it.

It's the lack of freedom. The world has been set in stone and the shape that this stone took is far too uncomfortable for any human. The modern world is inhuman. We didn't evolve to deal with our leaders' sick ambitions and exploitations, supposedly done for ,,the greater good''. Humanity should have never went beyond the unit of organization that is a simple, stable tribe, at best allied with other tribes.

The civilization itself is ending. With loss of caucasian race humanity will descent into a stone age without end in sight. Why should i care and not just enjoy last century of truly sentient species while it lasts?

Instant gratification from videogames, porn, and super markets. They dont have to struggle, and eqsy snatch becomes more common daily. Video games are addictive because you can completely ignore how shitty your life is and, Why work, look for pussy, or adventure when i can get money from the government, cum 10 times a day with a click of a button, and conquer a country in vidya?

Alpha Males ruined everything. Instead of looking out for their fellow man and his well being he neglected to find or help him get a sex partner. He could easily have convinced a Stacey to give him some sex but instead he hogged it all and broke a sacred brotherhood code.

Before any man of will could just find any job, have a long career no matter how mediocre, didn't have to work literally all day and still start a long lasting family. Now you need a master degree not to hope of landing any job, with no chance of it ever being for life, and if you get one you have to bend over to keep it.

All of this in the era of female emancipation and hardcore feminism, which makes it extremely harder to start, keep let alone want a family.

That is why they need and import niggers and sandniggers: they don't have real families, they have a woman they mate with and puppies. They are low maintenance and don't ask questions.

Ironically, they call in people that still have that drive because nobody took it away from them from giving women too many rights. Their biggest right was being born with a cunt, that was already enough.

Who is that supreme gentleman ?

>Would guys like Julius Caesar have put up with shit like this?
They had a society worth protecting, and this shit wouldn't have happened because of the attitude of the people at the time.

Modern day white men aren't worth a shit.
99% of the suits pushing feminism/multiculturalism are white males.
The reason they get away with it is because the women like it.
In this continent, speak out against it, not only will the women attack you, but other white males (who privately agree with you) will attack you as well.
White males have betrayed each other to the point where this has happened.

I've been to Asia before, and white guys are treated really well there. It's just objectively a much better deal.

Yung Rodger

>pic related

Such a shame. I'd like to reiterate that I mean that what I said was the root of the problem, although I understand that its demoralising to just have a conversion with the average citizen nowadays.

What do you guys think of starting a rehabilitation site for gamers that want to assimilate into society and attain higher sense of purpose than virtual conquering using games as a reference point for self development. Like and IRL RPG support group

Women stopped doing their job as mother and wife. So men can't even fucking do their own job as father and husband.

Cucked white liberals are also a devolution of beta males being so desperate for female approval that they completely lose their shit. I am not saying they are not a huge problem.

What is this sense of purpose? Women? Basically you're saying their endgame is going after a cunt that determines their worth, it's no different.

>attain a higher sense of purpose in 2017

Also video games are not a cause.

Imo in a economy that revolves on skilled and unskilled labor, the more people who have lack thereof of skill experience shorter life spans and poor health in the long term. They borrow more and carry more debt, and will eventually die out.

>>survival of the fittest economically.

I get what you mean, and I agree that the lack of masculinity/logical thought among men are what is causing this.

Problem is, we have a crab-in-the-bucket type situation; if anyone like Caesar were to emerge, the other white males will drag him down before he can accomplish shit.
Look at what happened with Trump in America.
It basically took a multi-billionaire genius alpha - and he had to fight tooth and nail against all the white males in the media and universities and just general virtue-signaling everywhere.

And the guys over in America are far less cucked than we are here (due to their overall exposure to Africans - we got shit too good here).

Its kind of multifaceted. Technology has actually helped accelerate this sort of cultural pessimism we are afflicted with. For instance Alvin Toffler wrote about a concept he called "Future Shock" this is basically information overload to the effect that decision making becomes hard. You just have too many options and many seem similar. This is like the concept of "tyranny of choice". I have noticed this with some people on Sup Forums. They have so many games to choose from they actually end up not playing anything.

This kind of ties in with frustration aggression hypothesis also. You are being blocked from some goal and its causing you increased frustration. This frustration turns to anger and eventually to some form of violence (including self harm) .

Another issue is that you are constantly bombarded with information about things you are completely powerless to do anything about which again can dovetail with frustration-aggression hypothesis. A suggestion would be to take a break from all forms of media. Even if its for just a day or two it will help you get some clarity that will come from within. Hope that helps.

Sounds like a good idea. Its been tried as a rehab though for mmo gamers at one point I recall.

Pic related

Why did you assume women wtf They can be if used right just like major sports are now

>tfw kek confirms your theory about gen z
Maybe there's hope yet

Spoiled by parents.

Not having a strong, masculine paternal figure.

Having an overbearing, intense maternal figure who fosters dependence and shame.

OH SHIT I'M FEELING IT

Nah this is nonsense, I didn't start playing video games till my quick brain and well read-ness(for a 14 year old) was shot down by anti-intellectualism and being told over and over again by fat black school administers (always fat black bitchs) that being hit with a pipe in 4 on 1 beatings was par for the course and black boys need eduction too.
I don't care how elitist or supreme glentleman this sounds, it's the truth.
It didn't stop in high school. Being shut out from afirmitive action programs, getting denied promotions, women who were worse workers promoted ahead of me. Wome getting a pass by HR, while I was fucked over. police fucking you over.

I totally agree with what you said.

And yes, I think I will try what you suggested.

Because with due exceptions there's usually three things that drive people

1. Havin a famlee
2. Materialistic shit
3. Helping others (euphemism for "live through the others because you have no life of your own")

Creating stuff is a meme that works but for so little people it doesn't count when talking about a large scale "rehab" program.

This, so much

I grew up around ugly demonic beaners and niggers and always felt repulsed by niggerfied society way before Sup Forums

Made me severely depressed, dropped out of nigger high school which was just a prison simulator, couldn't find a gf or any friend that wasn't influenced by degenerate nigger culture like hip hop and drugs.

And on top of that liberal PC culture brainwashes everyone to never question shitskins or be labeled racist thus solving the problem is a lost cause.

Been waiting for someone to fucking nuke all the main libtard cities before the nigger infection spreads throughout the west but it seems too late.

They'll be contributing more to society by chasing pussy than chasing virtual prizes

>TFW you used to give a shit about things
>TFW you think you used to be happy, but it was so long ago you can't remember what it feels like
>TFW the only reason you haven't walked in front of a train is because you still have enough love in you for those close to you, amidst the maelstrom of hatred and anger for the yourself and the world, that you will NEVER sink that low because you know what it will do to them

I think the real question we should be asking ourselves is how to we reignite the passion for life in a hollowed shell of a man? Lets be honest, we're here because we feel it dying in us, or it's already gone. Feel free to call me a faggot, you know deep in your heart of hearts that when you look out into the world you see nothing of merit, and a little of the fire dies. How do I make myself give a shit again? I know I should feel something but there's nothing there. I want it back.

Hatred is the fuel to relight your fire.
Hatred for those that would seek to destroy us and those that ruin our society that our ancestors fought and died for so many times over.
Jews, mudslimes, niggers, chinks, they all want what we have made and if we give up they will destroy us and everything we strived to acheive

Get actual hobbies and interests.

i can tell you the thought of slaving away working for your entire life with hardly the promise of anything for a young american man in thd middle or lower class. divorce is more acceptable tgan its ever been, good jobs are few and far inbetween, but the most of all, a lack of direction. Our parents couldnt teach us how to be succesful, and noone wants to live a second rate life. we are dead on the inside, just to comfortable to follow through an let the outside match.

Faustian will leading to Godlessness. The same urge to understand everything that made us full of life has led to the discovery of the biological nature of man and our past as pieces of amphibian slime. It's the core and it motivates everything that exacerbates the decline.

This video is pretty good and it gets into some of these issues although its talking about millenials in the workplace but it also talks about why people are unable to cope with failure and have no support systems even though they have unfettered contact through social media. The thing is the social media is just used for signaling and masking our problems and people most often dont seek out help because the relationships are superficial to begin with.

youtube.com/watch?v=hER0Qp6QJNU

>you'll do great
>study hard so you get a good job
>just be yourself
>you're such a good friend
>you need to go to college get a good job
>girls love a sense of humor
>looks don't matter
>i'm not cheating on you
>money doesn't matter
>shake the bosses hand and ask for that good job
>he's just a friend
>It's your fault I cheated on you
>you don't have the experience we need
>i'm taking the kids
>we can't approve your loan
>sorry but rent's going up
>sorry but alimony is going up
>we're not hiring right now
>what do you mean you can't afford a car?
>i only date tall guys
>i only date rich guys
>i only date younger guys
>i only date fit guys
>i only date older guys

There's a point where the male logic center decides that the shitty game you're playing is a lost cause and gives up because that's more efficient than pushing shit uphill for the rest of your days.

to be fair mexicans only came for the american dream, so saying that is disrespecting your ancestors who came for the same promise. that you could work and have a better life

There is no one single cause. I'll give you a quick rundown of the multiple causes:

>America and many other western countries are no longer meritocracies

We are all sold the lie that the best and the brightest achieve the most success. This is completely untrue. This country (and other "civilized" ones) worships mediocracy. Non-Jewish white males are underrepresented at Ivy League schools, in federal departments, tech companies, and more despite the fact that white males tend to out-perform their peers in universities. Affirmative Action hiring practices discriminate against white males.

>As we are discriminated against in hiring practices, we are simultaneously told that we are over-privileged and enjoy too many advantages in life.

This causes the already alienated young white man to develop deep-seated anger against the current state of things.

>The American system in its current form is a loathsome and evil state.

How much more evidence do you need? We invade a new country every year (perhaps this will change under trump), we are an active participant in white ethnic replacement, etc.

>The culture is degenerate and morally bankrupt.

Soul-crushing. The most intelligent Americans perpetually wonder why it is that our culture worships and enriches its worst elements. (See: rap stars, pro sport players, etc.)

>The country hates men.

Public school education, which is matriarchal and feminized, instills this concept early. This is why the "nu-male" tends to be well-adjusted. The nu-male, who is feminized to his core, is able to easily navigate the field of public education and often winds up a member of the DC "consultant class" (or an analogous field). Masculine young men find themselves despised by teachers, administrators, and are forced to go against their nature simply to stay afloat. And let's not forget about the atrocities of American divorce courts.

tl;dr Our societies are not built for the superior male human type.

I'm gonna use a practical example to illustrate the issue.

Say you want to learn how to play the guitar.

To do that, you'll have to buy an instrument, suffer the initial pain as you develop callouses and manage frustration when you fail to accomplish your practice goals.

Even when you succeed at playing a song, the pleasure you get from it is kinda 'meh', isn't it?

At least when compared to passive entertainment, drugs, food, orgasm or, say, playing fuckin' Guitar Hero.

These are better shortcuts for pleasure. If pleasure is your main goal, they'll typically be favored over anything that requires effort and causes frustration.

How can you solve this motivational problem?

You have to reduce or get rid of unproductive vices, first of all, as they'll always tempt you to give up.

But, more importantly, you need to stop doing shit for yourself only (or for others only, if you're a collectivist) and start doing things you enjoy or consider fulfilling for yourself AS WELL AS for others.

Want to play the guitar? Do it with the intent of playing for friends regularly or join a band.

If you want to good for others, instead of going to an asylum to wipe the ass of the elderly, play the guitar for them. This is how you stay motivated, by pleasing yourself as you serve others.

The more you can put your spontaneous interests at the service of a cause greater than yourself, the more meaningful your life experience will be.

Purpose overrides the need for immediate pleasure.

Successful people are demonised.
Women are trash.
The state might take your kids away if you don't bring them up as degenerate trash too.

I saw some comedy film the other day with some guy worried about getting married. The mc tells him why don't you just find a person you really hate and give them a house if you're so sure you're fucked. I think that's how most men see marriage now.

*to do good for others

good post huehue, there's a lot of truth to this

How?
>The internet.
How to fix?
>Kill the internet

Once you cut out the boundless hivemind people will be forced to connect eye to eye again. Not all people are like this just a minority but its a growing concern.

Without the internet free speech dies mate try again

I mean a hedonistic lifestyle has always been an avenue to go down

Yeah, I made this point earlier, negatively though.

>Do stuff for the others because nobody would give a shit about you otherwise

That does not sound encouraging at all.

Thanks.

It can't be for others only, though. That'll depress you.

You have to take something that is appealing to you in itself and put it at their service.

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