Is Trump trying to make our country dumber by appointing her?

Seems like a good strategy for his 2020 run.

Seriously?

After the shitshow the Department of Education has been in the last forty years?

You could eliminate the entire department and improve education overnight.

The future generation are going to be millennials anyway, so it's not a waste.

All Millenials can vote now.

you mean like water in the toilet?

Can someone PLEASE tell me why libshits hate her? I watched the news, heard multiple people ramble off on how horrible she is, both on social media and MSM, and yet not a single objective point has been brought forward as to why they oppose her.

It honestly feels like they are just scared/pissed that their long plan to destroy American youth further with common core is coming to and end.

Liberals hate everyone, especially themselves.

1) she's a christian that favors christian schooling

But think about the niglets

the left always tells you who they fear

their fear of this woman is way out of proportion

no more 'muh fee fees' in colage prehaps?

I don`t think that is possible desu.

Public school needs to be abolished and the tax burden removed.

People would be better off to teach the remedial things themselves and hire tutors for special and higher education. It would also strengthen the family unit. Churches could even hire there own teachers for their congregation.

Public school is nothing more than a open drug market and fashion show/meat market anymore. Thank MS13, Mexican Mafia, and black people in general. They have turned our schools into warzones.

>Can someone PLEASE tell me why libshits hate her?

She threatens the money flow to the teachers union by transferring the control of access to schooling to States and the people in those States. The 2 Republicans that crossed the isle were paid off by the teachers union.

>try to make our country dumber

Not physically possible without forced lobotomies

What does this mean? How do these teachers unions operate?

Genuinely asking as I know very little on this topic and (teachers) unions in genera

Is sessions getting confirmed or not?

They voted on reducing argument times today. So not yet but will happen.

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Libshits hate her because like every single Trump pick so far, she's a fucking idiot that's gonna dump the country further into the hole and it'll be up to the left to dig everyone's collective ass out again.

She is tremendously unqualified for her position, visible the second she speaks during the hearing, and she's only there because she paid every single Republican off to vote for her. When Republicans voiced their concerns for her in the past, they were silenced with more bribes, and now even McCain was cucked into voting for her.

Daily reminded the right is full of spineless, treasonous pieces of shit who will sell their mothers if it means making a quick buck. The day of the rope is coming, you worthless fucking cucks, and you won't like who'll be at the end of it.

Even as a right leaning person I fucking hate her.
>Pro-charter schools which are the biggest sham (which she has money in)
>No educational background
>Smug punchable woman face
>Pro teaching Christianity in schools
>Anti-union (Sup Forums will shill against the teacher's union, but honestly it's all teachers have to defend themselves against corrupt administration. The myth that the union protects a shit ton of bad teachers is stupid. If administration wants you gone they'll have your ass gone.) Honestly, in the words of Trump, if a couple of pro second amendment people could get together and do something about her, well...

of course he will be. all the libshits can do is delay, but hes getting in sooner or later regardless.

>Even as a right leaning person I fucking hate her.
>Anti-union (Sup Forums will shill against the teacher's union, but honestly it's all teachers i love sucking black cock
HI CTR

The Department of Education creates retards and needs to be destroyed

>Pro-charter schools which are the biggest sham (which she has money in)

What's so wrong about them?

>No educational background

That's bad

>Smug punchable woman face

Okay?

>Pro teaching Christianity in schools

That's bad

>Anti-union

YES, fuck the teacher's union they will fight to keep shitty teachers in just because "MUH SENIORITY" and demand incredibly high wages for a babysitter who only works eight months out of the year

$0.02 has been deposited into your account

wasted digits, baka

sage the thread boys

>Everyone that disagrees with me is CTR, the adult's emotional guide to dealing with an argument.

t. rectumravaged school teacher about to lose his job
maybe be less shit

>she's a fucking idiot that's gonna dump the country further into the hole

That is only your opinion though.

Then I hate her as a Conservative. Religion belongs in church, not school.

You're right, clearly I wasn't thinking. After all, I hire electricians who don't know shit about circuits all the time. I speak with plumbers who can't name different types of fucking wrenches all the time. I need you to help me be a better person. Please tell me about her qualifications and why she'll be a good pick for her position.

It's literally impossible to be worse than those who have sat in her chair before her. The bext case scenario is she's part of a long term plan to shut the Dept. Of Education down, they've failed completely in their mission, and nobody can save it. It's a liberal bastion and a black hole we dump trillions of dollars into, with no results.

Or, you know, get someone who will nominate someone you like elected. He won, his choice. Get over it.

I bet your teeny tiny little pecker got hard writing that.

>No children left behind
>Common core
>College day care and safe space
>Mariam teachings=anti white and American

Honestly, appointing ANYONE is an improvement

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Charter schools have been shown to far outperform public schools. This point alone makes her worth appointing.

holy shit.....rewind 8 years ago and that statement is identical to the ones the extreme right was saying regarding Obama and his people....the truth is that Dems and Reps are the same people, just different churches.

You don't need to be a teacher to push papers around and make phone calls. That's all she is in charge of.

Liberals are suddenly acting like these positions matter. It's pathetic. They don't matter.

she gonna run rougshod over the teachers unions. you're just a salty bitch.

holy fuck you are an idiot

>Teach Christianity
>Isolate and harm children of different religious faiths and beliefs

I can't support this.
It'll likely create more atheists.

You don't sound very right-leaning
Maybe you should try >>>/reddit/, i think you'd fit in better there

Has never had a public education, has never put a child through education

Has no experience expertise or education in the field of education

paid 1 million dollars to the re pubs who confirmed her

wants to use the vouchers as an underhanded way to put religious indoctrination into schools

vouchers screw the poor

And the fact that she is unqualified....really? ALL people appointed to that position have been unqualified for the last 20+ years.

Charter schools in my state (Ohio) just suck money from the state, get shut down due to poor test scores, then reopen under a new name. Very corrupt set of schools.
>Union will fight to keep shitty teachers in because "MUH SENIORITY"
It's their job as union lawyers to. Your fucking point? Are you going to call the lawyer defending a blatant criminal shit too?
>Demand incredibly high wages for a babysitter
Alright, uneducated retard detected. If teachers got paid like babysitters they'd be making MORE MONEY. They work more than 8 hours a day too, and with the college requirements to become one they could take literally any other job (for example I could say fuck it and go become a biologist/botanist at literally any time with all the science credits I had to take). But no go on like a mouthbreather and then wonder why the US is falling behind other countries.

That isn't her policy. You are projecting your fears onto an office you don't understand. Wake up you fucking goy

But in all seriousness we can't let her have the nuclear codes.

The president of the united states has no political experience. Your argument is invalid.

I know, but it's an idea that would be an absolute tragedy in slow-motion.

Nothing could be worse than that.

Imagine having some fucking idiot read their interpretation of the bible to your kids so that they feel that it doesn't make any sense.

>Pro teaching Christianity in schools
I like this part

does she have the power to forever close berkeley?

She's hated because she's not an Obama creature, who will blindly push Common Core, like the previous two secretaries.

It's a good thing. Common Core is a sham.

The secretary of education does not read the bible to children.

she advises the president on policies relating to education. The fact that her kids went to private schools is good, that means she is smart and wants the best for her kids.

If I could afford it I would put my kids in private school so they could get the best possible education. The rest of this is just pandering to poorfags.

Again, who has been really qualified? Obama was only elected because hurr hurr muh millenials wanted to be a part of history and see a black president...the same cucks that voted for Hillary for the same reasons...to see history made, again! Yay! Us millenials are so much better than previous generations! We could care less about stupid terms like "qualified" or "good for the nation"....we bitch about Trump because he's white.....we've already had presidents who are white in the past....naw, bruh, we need to elect a woman and then next election, who knows, a llama?....yeah, man, a fucking llama! That'll make history!

Not really. The Department Of Education is a liberal stronghold, it's how they push their conditioning through curriculum to the schools. It's also a lot of money on the table that went to cushy jobs for Friends of Obama.

The only legit complaint is that she has no teaching experience, but that's hardly necessary, as the Secretary is in charge of a HUGE heirarchical chart of sub-Secs and programs, the job is a management job, and for that, she's perfectly qualified.

Bill Gates is shitting his pants right now, because she's gonna dismantle Common Core. Hopefully she'll diminish the power and reach of the department, the Repubs need to go back to the Reagan era and demand it be defunded, again.

I'm laughing at how SHOCKED! SHOCKED I TELL YOU! that she may have gotten the nod for contributions - like that never happened under Obama or Clinton.

>DeVoss hired the semester I graduate

No, public schools need to go back to a State's issue, and the Feds getting out completely. They've poured trillions into education since the 60's, with the only result falling literacy and abysmal testing. They've failed. The Dems don't give a fuck about education, never have, unless it's for their richy rich colleges - the Sec Ed has massive amount of influence to steer billions of porkbarrel spending money, and the Dems just saw the trough get drained. Of course they're throwing a fit.

Schools are fucked in the U.S. because parents don't teach their children to read. The first few years are spent trying to rectify this, and somehow this then determines the snail's pace for the rest of their education.

Split the school at the outset into two schools: children of parents that make an effort, and children of parents that don't. The lesser school will maintain the same plodding pace that now exists. The serious school will race onwards.

I'd like to think that a generation of this would convince parents to assist in their own kids' education. Instead, they'll blame the split school system. Some people can't be helped. At least we can unshackle the children of parents that give a damn.

Teacher's unions don't do fuck-all for teachers. I have several teachers in my family, and they'd be overjoyed to stop paying union dues.

They'd also like to dump the politically correct and brainwashing curriculum that comes from the Fed, and is forced on them. Like forcing kids to support Muslims, and banning anything Christian, and teaching white guilt and environmental propaganda.

no they can't, still another year

The Department of Education (Propoganda) has destroyed public schools.

It is time to demolish this monster, which kills hopes and dreams of CHILDREN.

Devos is in, and will do the job.

Suck it libtards.

Trump is that you? Dont post plans on Sup Forums!

What is considered qualified?

Do you want someone who has been part of the same system that needs to be changed?

If you haven't noticed, Trump was elected to shake everything up.

>make burgers dumber

that could be a tough ask...

Wasn't his idea to privitize education and destroy common core?

I don't get the criticism of this lady. He's hiring a business-minded person to transform the educaton system and make it more capitalist minded. Why do people care if she's been like a teacher before or some shit?

Ah, yes, the typical liberal response - no substance, all insults.

Kiss Common Core goodbye, libtard. And good fucking riddance.

>As if anything a teacher regurgitates to students is of importance in the real world

When can we drop the follow your dream meme? All teachers do is teach basic shit that could potentially interest a child, which is then in the child to pursue with their family. Fuckin waste of a job

Now would be a good time to interject

>60%

Wtf I love DeVos now

examples of countries that are smart with no public education system?

Redpill me on DeVos Sup Forums

Everyone I talk to in real life talks shit about her

Why are they wrong?

If you look at the wiki page, for the position, it's a management position overseeing multiple departments. Too many departments, imho. The whole thing should be shut down, it's a Carter "Muh legacy" waste of money.

Her lack of educational background is actually a plus for Trump - that department is ALL political and she's gonna cut through the politics like a hot knife through butter.

Anyone who's against that is for government bloat, waste, and corruption.

Shes gonna oversee the selling off of our education. George soros will own our children's minds.

Anything to get the federal government out of our lives as much as possible.

Do your own fucking homework, lazy fuck.

You are retarded.
Teachers make a shitton.
Their salary is fucking public. In my old public school they made from 50k to 90k for just teachers.
The ones who make less are the newer ones.

All teacher union does in this shithole of Chicago is protest and take away school time.

Edfag here.
Teachers unions hate her because she's a charter school and privatization specialist. She almost directly threatens a big money supply to the democrats.

Don't overplay your hand. She was a lobbyist for Detroit's private charter school programs. She's still unqualified, but claiming that

Probably no effective change.

The teachers unions contribute about 10-30 million a year, 100 percent democratic.

In NY, CA, and other big left states, teachers union dues are mandatory for all faculty. Other states vary.

Charter schools and private schools generally don't have to follow the same union contracts as public schools.

So, more private/charter school teachers= less public school teachers=less democratic party funding.

If they didn't block her, I can't imagine them blocking him.

well worth the comment here faggot

Maybe the local school districts shouldn't have surrendered all that power to the federal government with Common Core then.

>It's their job as union lawyers to. Your fucking point?
that's what is wrong with unions. especially in education in which the results of a bad worker affects our fucking children, you cannot tolerate a bad teacher. they only care about money, not taking good stewardship of our future. fuck the lawyers, the unions should know what is best for the children and take proper action. fuck the unions

She doesn't know anything about public education. The secretary of education is in charge of public education.

thats not what millenial means but okay

It was already sold off, idiot. You think the government came up with Common Core?

Go look at the ties to the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, for a starter.

The whole thing is a Liberal stronghold of taxpayers money being dumped into a black hole, never to seen again, and every year, kids get dumber and dumber.

Before the 60's, we graduated kids from high school ready to take on the world. Now, we graduate kids who can barely read or write their own language, let alone accomplish higher tasks.

Ever since the 60's,because hippies and liberals didn't like homework and memorizing things like multiplication tables, they've systematically destroyed education in the US. And then run campaigns blaming it on Republicans, because they won't let them spend another trillion dollars every year (on fancy junkets to Hawaii for "Common Core conferences")

Wkae the fuck up, dummies. Dems rip off EVERYONE, not just Republicans, and they've been robbing you blind for decades. A lot of you, judging by the piss poor language, writing skills, spelling and grammar mistakes, were robbed of a decent education by liberals, who have been in control of the whole thing for decades. You should be pissed, not being a sheep for the same people who robbed you.

Hey, the outgoing sec of ed had GREAT qualifications, and spent his time pushing the tire fire that is common core, and race based punishment, where suspending porportionally more black students than white would automatically be presumed racist.

One year won't be a big change.

Shutting down in response to failure is the system working.

Look up generation dates, see that the youngest millenials are 21. Realize you are barely not a millennial, bash millenials

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> and then wonder why the US is falling behind other countries.

Niggers just bring down the averages, American education is very good

Charter schools vastly out preform public schools and the unions need to be disbanded. When we are talking about the future of our children and their mental development then there will be no concessions.
Teachers will learn to do their job properly or they get canned, that's how it should be.

The last guy was a political hack who spent more time in college than actually teaching, and then joined the ranks of the political elite, and was a complete water carrier for Obama and his agenda - and the fucker spearheaded Common Core in NY.

The guy before that was a thug from the Chicago Machine, the one that elected Obama.

And i guaran-fucking-tee you none of the libs spouting off here could name them, without looking them up. That's how influential they were.

>Massachusetts
Nice, now if only we could get those scores without the liberal brainwashing.

Because shes not some pencil pushing bearaucrat whos been in education for 40 years, the left think shes "unqualified". Even though Trump has already proven that any government role can be done by a businessperson with far more efficiency and attention to detail that literally any government drone.

Message for all retarded lefties: THE RULES OF MANAGEMENT DONT CHANGE FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF ORGANISATIONS

She might actually be able to implement structural reforms we need in public education.

The only plan Democrats have is pumping more money into a failed system and treating it like a jobs program for adults instead of actually caring about what is proven to improve educational outcomes for students.

Why though? Because he disagrees with you? Dep. Of Ed. has been a massive failure.

>unqualified women gets a job for diversity points
>liberals still mad anyway

this is why i always vote republican

That's hilarious, because I wonder which side is the one taking all the women's studies, liberal arts, bull prepping, and professional victim degrees at these universities for the easy A's rather than real STEM.

Because they think she has authority to defund all public schools and make every public school bea Christian Religious school

> None of which is true

The DOE is just a waste of money management instead of keeping education money local than at a federal level. It should be abolished.

It's not fair to lay this on teachers. Many of them are forced to teach the curriculum that the district, state edu office and the feds force them to. Teachers have very little choice in curriculum these days - they have to use approved books, complete specific workbooks and teaching plans, or get fired. They also have to spend an inordinant amount of time in conferences listening to fatcat Liberals who got paid with tax money to drone on in liberalspeak for hours. It's like HR, but more evil.

I have several teachers in my family, and an aunt who was a principal for decades. I'd love to have you all go talk to them for a while. One relative teaches art. She says her kids get to do actual art 1/3 of the time, the rest is on workbooks bout the environment, or multi-culturalism, and white guilt. Even the projects they get assigned are forced on her, like having to draw or sculpt endangered animals threatened by global climate change. And that shit is in other classes, too - english, science, history, all of it. Their class sizes are enormous. The class size keeps getting bigger, but the only infrastructure the district will allow is a new administration building for the district. They're all scared shitless to say or do the wrong thing in front of students - one teacher was suspended for hugging an upset student. If kids fight, they can't touch them to pull them apart.

One relative works with special needs kids, where her class is mostly black/spanish. She's leaving the field, because her life is threatened daily by dindus, and the district and union won't do shit to protect her. She feels like she's failed all of her kids, but she was set up to fail by those above her. She ha sto try and teach Common Core to inner-city urban kids (blacks) who can't read, have no basic skills, who prefer to fight in class than pay attention, and gets yelled at by fat black women when their hoodlum kids fail. And then the school steps in and passes them anyway.

>Many of them are forced to teach the curriculum that the district, state edu office and the feds force them to.

Its a literal shit show here in Texas where the state board of education basically has to approve what text books and other things are mandatory for every single school in the state. Its basically a corporatist tie in with big textbook publishers.