My friend and I are planning a massive Eastern Europe & Scandinavia trip for the 2018 Russian world cup. We're looking at options to drive or maybe train once we land in Montenegro from Oz (flying also option but not sure if necessary when that close to other countries).
Our proposed route is in pic (red line is proposed route).
Would love to here from you faggots in said countries on what to see/party in each country, below is a list of what we would be keen on.
Said it was an option (where applicable). I wasn't aware those mountain didn't have trains.
Parker Ramirez
Oh, they(we) have trains
Trains that are slower now than in 19th century
Luis Taylor
Mountain Serbs***
Luke Edwards
anyway, wtf do you recommend?
Aiden Reed
Looks fine.
Carter Cooper
ty, kinda want recommendations on stuff to see from (((locals)))
Jace Perez
car / taking an airplane
Inland nature is fucking beautiful and deserves to be seen so i'd take a car, start driving those mountains really early in the morning and stopping at every place you find interesting. There is a cool restaurant on top of Moracha canyon
Car ride with no stops from Montenegro to Belgrade is around 7-8 hours.
Robert Ward
Good premise for new Hostel movie
Daniel Rivera
You literally are going through the most arab part of sweden....
>Skip sweden and norway >Do the baltics, the ferry to finland and then into russia
Zachary Jenkins
dont see the line as literal, it's more to indicate which countries we want to see.
cheers lad
Logan Ortiz
I'm planning to go to the World Cup as well user, if Australia qualifies that is. By the way slavic women are the most beautiful women in the world, you will have your fair share of women to pick from user.
Andrew Thompson
nice thread. I couldn't tell you. take a ferry to Sicily Sicily is cool!!! See a palermo game!! Meme magic them into staying in Serie A!!! Mafia are bros they are patrolling the refugees
Reply to my thread I need life advice
Josiah Walker
If you need some more help about itinerary ask while i am here
Xavier Gray
Add Kiev. Good city.
Tyler Taylor
Looks fine to me desu, you are avoiding most arab places in the red route. Just dont go to Malmö which is at the border of Denmark and Sweden (the most south part)
Jonathan Baker
Brate, we're Serbs that live in Oz we sort of know what to look and see around in Serbia and montenegro. I guess if you could roughly give us an average price of a shit-box car it would be appreciated? something that;s like 500 euros?
Cameron Morales
Well you need a visa for Belarus, the Baltics & Poland are fucking cheap as chips (unless you live there like i did)
Sweden and Norway are stupidly expensive and have shit beer
Easy mode >Land in London, drive through France Germany, Denmark, Norway Sweden, ferry to Poland, drive through Belarus, Lithuania Latvia, Estonia, ferry to Finland and into Russia
Hard mode >Land in Greece >Drive through Bulgaria, Moldova, western Ukraine, Poland, Belerus, The Baltics, ferry to Finland, drive into Russia
Central Europe is nothing special nor are the Nordics really
I would go hard mode, but i speak Russian...English varies in Eastern Europe but its not impossible, easy mode pretty much all none eastern European countries speak better English than the gooks we have here
Easy mode is expensive
Hard is cheap
Chase Flores
Tryna avoid Ukraine all together cause you know, war and stuff.
The war is in the far east, Kiev is worth the trip and they have the hottest women 2nd only to Minsk
Christian Ortiz
We can read cryillic and know very basice phrases in Russian (speak fluent Serb).
I guess what I really want to know is what's 'worth' seeing in each country that the red line touches, whether it be historical wise (i.e. battlesites monuments, castles) & places to P A R T Y H A R D
Also is it hard to get a visa in Belarus? >why do you have to get a visa?
Zachary Wright
>estonia mentioned
What to visit >Our capital, Tallinn's old town for medieval buildings and atmosphere >Tourist bars in old town, especially recommend Olde Hansa restaurants >Our second biggest city Tartu on a friday night by spending time in Rüütli street, lots of young college students having parties on that street, just stike up conversations with random drunk college students there for fun, they speak english well >check out loodusegakoos,ee/where-to-go/search-options for good hiking routes if you want to have a good experience in nature, the map I linked especially highlights you safe, marked routes for tourists that do not lead you on someone's private property
What to avoid >russian-dominated commieblock districts in Tallinn such as Lasnamäe, you might get beaten up or have your shit stolen like the ruskies love to do with drunk finnish tourists >rural towns, nothing to see or do there unless you know someone from there in advance, in which case it would be fun, but otherwise, they look very depressing here in Estonia >being a typical tourist who gets pissed drunk, is only interested in scoring with eastern european sluts and only talks with with his group or other compatriots you find and never actually experiences Estonia or converses with one
Have a good trip, OP!
Nolan Kelly
ty men
Adrian Cooper
cheers lad, already can see something thats 400 euro's
Charles Jackson
Come to America instead please
Nicholas Clark
I'd recommend going more north than that and also visiting norway's coastline if you want to see nature
Liam Allen
If the cup is during the summer (can't be bothered to check) take the trip up all the way to northern Norway so you can watch the beautiful midnight sun
Grayson Cook
Include St. Petersburg or you are stupid Aussie.
Leo Brown
I was living in Latvia and went to the hockey there in 2014, wasnt that hard, i assume you can just speak to a consulate here if there is one
Its not in the EU and has europes "last" dictator if you dont include Putin
Fluent Serb could help you but i would really take some quick Russian courses so you can get the difference, i havent spoken to a Serb so i dont know the nuances between the languages
>Ukrainian i can follow easily, Belorussian isnt spoken in Minsk just Russian (but they do have signs)
Poland you will be ok with English
>The Baltics with young people English is fine, old people Russian is fine but start with English because the local Balts have a thing about hating on Russian speakers
>Be prepared to be ignored a lot, people generally are not approachable (when you experience this in eastern Europe be prepared for it to be 10 times worse in Russia
War sites...France has the best preserved IMO but eastern Europe is really beautiful and very cheap
Depends on what your budget is i guess?
Dylan Scott
For the 1000th time, the red line isn't the literal path, it just indicates where we want to visit. Purpose of this post was to get some idea of what cities and/or towns to visit while in said counties
Christopher Martinez
We're not doing western Europe because it's full of sad cunts
Brayden Smith
But cheers for your points user
Landon Bell
You might as well skip Norway entirely if you're not going to the western part, Oslo and the surrounding area has no crazy nature and is basically just Sweden 2.0 in all aspects, especially demographically(shitskins as far as the eyes can see). 99 out of 100 Norway pics you've seen are from the west coast.
Kevin Hughes
>Note, we're both Wogs
ftfy, also, maybe take it to /trv/
Adam Flores
Slav != wogs m7, that's Greeks and Italians
Xavier Watson
>sad cunts kek, can you elaborate? This is the first time I've seen someone say they'd rather visit eastern yurop?
Eli Myers
you realize there is a board for this?
Daniel Moore
noted, I've heard Norway is beautiful. Deffs keen to see the nature stuff before our final stop in Russia.
Ayden Perez
Then do my hard mode but defo leave Sweden off it, its as bad as France in my experience (unless you go far far north but again, Sweden is fucking expensive)
For party hard, i would say Kiev and Warsaw are the best, went to each for a bucks and had a great time
Baltics not so much, they went through a stage of being Europes "Bali" or bucks party countries so the poms and Italians ruined the local girls opinions of foreigners
>A pint can of beer in Latvia will run you about 1 euro depending on where you buy it, that should give you an indication of how cheap eastern europe is to party
Ayden Green
Do you know what board you are on, faggot?
Kayden Torres
Well, we've already been to Western Europe and it wasn't honestly all that cracked up to be.
>shitskins >retarded people
Felt like everyone was uncomfortable in their skin
Dylan Hill
Awesome, cheers for the recommendations
Robert Wright
Sup Forums will give me better (local tips) recommendations than /trv/ because of poltards living in said countries.
Brayden Brown
were you in the tourist areas in major cities, outside the tourist areas in major cities or downright in the rural areas? Since in Estonia there are groups of chinks here-and-there and small number of other shitskins in the tourist areas who are just visiting, but outside old town, you can almost see none.
Those touring shitskins are not to be afraid, though, they stick to their own groups and do not cause any problems usually, unlike the shitskins who actually live in western european cities.
Nolan Murphy
Mate not op but i lived in Latvia
>The groups of chinks you are talking about are nothing compared to what we have here
OP will most likely spend time reflecting each night how weird it is to not see any black or asian people during the day and try remember the last time he did see one
Brody Robinson
>try remember the last time he did see one yikes, is it really that bad in straya cities?
but what is different about your chinks? I haven't heard they have a reputation for violence as immigrants unlike pakis, arabs and niggers
Owen Jenkins
We just have a lot of them, they are like Russians in that they live in the same areas etc but they don't cause issues outside of their communities (usually)
The asians in the Baltic are nothing to worry about, i would pick chinks over Russians any day of the week
Xavier Hall
Speaking of driving holidays:
Would something roughly like this cost a fortune to do, and is this too long for driving? The train times in Google Maps appear to take even longer than car.
I'm going in December and i'm still not sure whether we should drive the entire time or just rent a car for some of the trip. Also not sure about snow and driving during this period.