Who won?

Who won?

I'm hearing the left say Bernie won and stomped Cruz flat, while the right says Cruz won.

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Bernie admitted obama lied.

Nobody

The point of debates is not to "win", it's to further understanding. I hate our culture sometimes.

So?

>the guy we don't like won guys
Seriously?

MORE COWBELL

Ted Cruz showed up prepped for a debate. Bernie said "Millionaesh and billionaesh" and "people will doi" repeatedly

you can do both

Fucking this.

>I'm hearing the left say Bernie won and stomped Cruz flat, while the right says Cruz won.
Wow. I am absolutely shocked to hear that.

Bernie told a small business owner that she should not be in business since not providing health care for her employees when she asked him why Obamacare was so expensive that she cannot insure her employees if she expands and she would go bancrupt.

why? the business owner expands and makes more money, then can give healthcare to their employee

Cruz won based on this moment alone: youtube.com/watch?v=puwO_NfUJTs

>to further understanding

well then we all lost. Everyone just walked away thinking THEIR GUY won.

Whoever you agreed with more.

What do you expect?

she cant even afford to buy healthcare for herself and doesn't apply for Obamacare you absolute retard

she has no money to expand because shes forced to buy her employees insurance

She can't expand. If you employ 50 people or more you have to provide them with healthcare under Obamacare and she can't afford that. And because she can't afford that she can't expand and even pay for her own healthcare.

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I love my nation, but to be honest, a lot of aspects of our culture fucking suck. Our media is just absolute garbage, and a large part of that is because the what we find entertaining and how we see the world is garbage.

Americans have this weird need for everything to be "exciting", over-exaggerated, and competitive. I find it infuriating how often people cheer and applaud at debates. And all these shitty political shows like Daily Show, John Oliver, Stephen Colbert are more about "zingers" than genuine satire.

Bernie certainly won if the debate was purely about emotions. Unfortunately real life doesn't work like that.

Debates are attempts at persuading a group of people to your position by arguing with an opponent. The point is to indeed win. The competitive nature of debates give rise to a better understanding by incentivizing people to make good arguments and defenses.

the left confuses passion for substance...like always

cruz gave facts and stats, but delivered them like the stone cold sociopath he is
bernie ranted and raved while waving his arms around and victim blamed a woman without health insurance

So glad that fucking socialist was a DNC plant to make $Hillary look center of left.

Burny was unprepared and at one point, when confronted with facts, his face was so red that I thought that he was gonna turn into a tomato.

you made this thread yesterday you slut. STOP!

and if the debate was purely about being called out for being a lieing stinky butt hole Cruz won by far

Bernie was cuckolded by Ted Cruz. In a sense they both won. Ted Cruz won the debate and Bernie Sanders was able to enjoy being cuckolded by another man, as he fantasizes being cuckolded by three more.

The whole thing was about Obamacare. Bernie's argument was that it wasn't good enough and was implemented under false pretenses.

He was supposed to be arguing for Obamacare.

This is not how you win.

Cruz was lying up his ass, as usual. He says one side of the story, while Bernie at least recognizes that Obamacare needs some work.

Cruz is playing the long game to steal those delegates.

He'll get'em when no one is looking.

Cruz looked better for a casual viewer I assume. But he dodged questions left and right, actually I found his rethorical skill in that regard amazing.
If honesty and facts are the measure then Bernie won. If performance and appearance matter then Cruz won

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i like your post.
nice digit, btw.

Bernie didn't present a single fact or statistic and constantly appealed to emotion and stated his opinion without backing it up. Also, he berated a small business owner for not supplying health insurance for her employers, when she had already stated that she doesn't legally need to, doesn't have health insurance for herself and if she were to do this, she would immediately go bankrupt.

Anybody that thinks Bernie was anything less than a pathetic old man shouting at the wind in that debate is mentally ill.

>congratulations on your struggle

>If honesty and facts are the measure then Bernie won.
>honesty and facts
> "democratic" socialist jew
Pick one

Leave Heidi out of this, Bernie.

>thinking obama care shouldn't be scrapped
>not presenting what ted lied about
>Not even American

Lyin' Ted. Trump didn't name him that for nothing.
>He holds the bible high; He puts it down, and then he lies.

You lost, Cruz Missile. Time to get over it.

Good, this red vs blue team bullshit needs to end.


I agreed with Boynie about going after the insurance/pharma jew and I agreed with Ted that outlawing experimental drugs is bullshit.

Either insure everyone and lower the standard of care or lets some poor people die seem to be the only options.

Gov't run healthcare is the worst mistake you will ever make. It is bankrupting Canada and the care is 3rd world level.

Who cares they're both losers.

Obamacare is a shitty compromise that is good for the poor and the rich but shits on the middle class and small business.

>The future of Obamacare
You retarded nigger.

You realize you're arguing that he shouldn't have been honest, right?

watched the whole thing. Bernie got shoah'd the fuck out

HAHAHAHA Bernie stumbled and couldnt debate for shit. Cruz absolutely won and made Bernie look like he doesnt know wtf hes talking about (because Bernie is a damn commie).

Any lefty who says Bernie won is a biased dude weed lmao

No its not. Its to make one side of the argument look ridiculous so we all know where we should stand

Ted's an honest man. Trump didn't want him winning, so he took him out with a blitzkrieg of misinformation and lies. He knew he didn't have the ability to take him on in a debate. A smart move, but don't act like we're the bad guys.

Ted is on a mission

No, no. Sorry. This is without factoring in cutting our unnecessary military spending. If we did this, it wouldn't be as bad as Cruz is saying, not nearly. Of course he doesn't want to admit that though, because he's a disingenuous prick.

I think you're completely misunderstanding the point he's trying to make. It's a debate, not a truth telling competition. Even if it was, Ted still would have won.

The hairdresser lady destroyed his argument by pointing out that the law basically prevented her from expanding and employing more people.

Bernie doesn't know shit about business.

All biases aside, Cruz completely destroyed Bernie. Ted's arguments weren't exactly rock solid through and through but Bernie came in so completely unprepared and delivered nothing by empty platitudes.

Military is only 500-600 billion. What are you going to cut? You do realize significant cuts in the wrong places potentially harm the dollar and the economy itself. Who's going to protect the waterways and shipping lanes? How will the dollar be force fed to the world to maintain hegemony?

They could make things more efficient but the savings I imagine are not as large as you would think.

>mfw American socialists pretend Canada's healthcare system is good because they've never used it except to smuggle cheap prescription drugs

>just expand more goy
>just make more money goy
Good fucking god you're dumb.

>Jews breath air
>We breath air
>Why are you so fucking dumb, are you a jew?
What are you? Some kind of Commietard? You know most Communists were jews.

>why does Texas have less insured people than Vermont?

>Coz Texas is way bigger and has too many brown people so you can't compare.

>why don't you look at Denmark, Norway etc for their healthcare?

>I choose to live in America

Seriously how can Bernie still be supported? Cruz EXPOSED him hard.

>Everyone just walked away thinking THEIR GUY won

Is that the fault of the people debating or the people that were watching?

normally I think people who point this shit out are crazy but decide for yourself, it doesn't sound human

>go to 1:42:20

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