/Fsg/ Fascism General

/Fsg/ - Fascist General

Thread for discussion of Italian Fascism, and other forms of fascism, Mosley, Codreanu, Falange, etc. Also for sharing fascist literature and information.

A Fascist general for Fascists and those interested


conservapedia.com/Fascist_Manifesto,_1919

worldfuturefund.org/wffmaster/Reading/Germany/mussolini.htm

reakt.org/fiume/charter_of_carnaro.html


uploadmb.com/dw.php?id=1389982155

Be respectful and please try to keep conversations relatively "intellectual"


Good fascists/similar or influential people to get an introduction

Oswald Mosely
Jose Antonio Primo de Rivera
Benito Mussolini
Adolf Hitler
Stepan Bandera
Corneliu Zelea Codreanu
Salazar
Ramiro Ledesma Ramos
Ettore Ovazza
Gaetano Mosca
Friedrich Nietzsche
Charles Maurras
Enrico Corradini
Filippo Tommaso Marinetti
Johann Plenge
Alceste De Ambris
Gabriele d'Annunzio
George Lincoln Rockwell
Juan PerĂ³n
Giovanni Gentile
Julius Evola
Konstantin Rodzaevsky
Francisco Rolao Preto
Dimitrije Ljotic

Types of Fascism

Italian
Falangism
National-Syndicalism
British Union
National-Socialism
Strasserism
Meme futurism
Clerical Fascism
Brazilian Integralism
Peronism

"[Fascism] was an explosion against intolerable conditions, against remediable wrongs which the old world failed to remedy. It was a movement to secure national renaissance by people who felt themselves threatened with decline into decadence and death and were determined to live, and live greatly."~Oswald Mosely

Other urls found in this thread:

youtube.com/watch?v=Rys45B4OhV0
discord.gg/DpVjb
twitter.com/NSFWRedditVideo

>philosophic conception
Fascism is thought and action. It is action with an inherent doctrine which, arising out of a given system of historic forces, is inserted in it and works on it from within. It has therefore a form co-related to the contingencies of time and place; but it has at the same time an ideal content which elevates it into a formula of truth in the higher region of the history of thought.

>spiritual conception
To Fascism the world is not this material world which appears on the surface, in which man is an individual separated from all other men, standing by himself and subject to a natural law which instinctively impels him to lead a life of momentary and egoistic pleasure. In Fascism man is an individual who is the nation and the country. He is this by a moral law which embraces and binds together individuals and generations in an established tradition and mission, a moral law which suppresses the instinct to lead a life confined to a brief cycle of pleasure in order, instead, to replace it within the orbit of duty in a superior conception of life, free from the limits of time and space a life in which the individual by self-abnegation and by the sacrifice of his particular interests, even by death, realises the entirely spiritual existence in which his value as a man consists.

>ethical conception
This positive conception of life is evidently an ethical conception. And it comprises the whole reality as well as the human activity which domineers it. No action is to be removed from the moral sense; nothing is to be in the world that is divested of the importance which belongs to it in respect of moral aims. Life, therefore, as the Fascist conceives it, is serious, austere, religious; entirely balanced in a world sustained by the moral and responsible forces of the spirit. The Fascist disdains the "easy" life.

>religious conception
Fascism is a religious conception in which man is considered to be in the powerful grip of a superior law, with an objective will which transcends the particular individual and elevates him into a fully conscious member of a spiritual society. Anyone who has stopped short at the mere consideration of opportunism in the religious policy of the Fascist Regime, has failed to understand that Fascism, besides being a system of government, is also a system of thought.

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There is absolutely no need to be fascists in order to oppose global cartels and mafias.

The return of fascism is nothing but yet another effort to minimize, ridicule and marginalize rising sentiment of awareness and opposition to plots against humanity.

Anyone who declares support for fascism, Hitler and the like is nothing but a jewish zionist shill and should not be listened to.

Gonna need evidence to back up that claim famalam.

Seems like the global bankers and the internationalists are doing very well right now and suppress fascism. Your argument is very strange

Guess I'm a Jewish Zionist shill now, who knew?

False, some of us are actually convinced that military values and strict adherence to national identity are desirable. Also I have seen the left and right fail in my country, both when from close to the center to near the extremes, a third position is needed.

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What's wrong with him?

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What

>liberal fascists

>facists(sic)

WHAT!!!
WHO WROTE THAT SHIT

>facists
god I hate this meme, "haha SJWs are the real fascists" "SJWs are like hitler"

>Liberal Fascists

>Take in interest in politics
>Can't even figure out what liberal and fascist mean

Can someone please explain meme futurism to me? How is it a type of fascism and what are the tenets? Thanks for your input and hail victory as always!

We need to create a must read list for fascist literature. Not just Sup Forums but something uniquely /fsg/

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Can you guys explain how you look at fascism and see anything other than failure?

>dems are the real racists
>commies are the the real fascists

Lolbertarians everyone

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Can you explain how you look at Canada and see anything other than failure?

Can you explain how you look at multiculturalism and see anything other than slow suicide?

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>failure

It worked everywhere it was tried. It was hailed as an economic miracle practically everywhere.

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It is basically the same thing as fascism but with a much larger emphasis on technological and scientifical progressions, yet retaining traditional values and culture

>unsourced
>very limited time frame
Show me how germany did past 1941 all the way to the present.

There are people that are nostalgic of the USSR too. If you can't actually articulate why it's good and just post meme pictures that may as well be propaganda then you aren't going to convince anyone you are actually enlightened.

You know what started in 1939, right?

You asked for evidence to show that fascism was not a failure. He shows you some. Now you're going to pull the old "but this isn't REAL evidence" bit?

If Fascism is so great why did they start a war that they lost?

The great depression was not exclusive to Germany and other countries pulled themselves out of it without instituting tyrannical governments. Asking for an expanded comparison is not unfair and it is also not unfair to say that his graphs should have a source considering the type of propaganda that spreads between people advocating for fascism.

>There is absolutely no need to be fascists in order to oppose global cartels and mafias
Thats where your wrong schlomo

>If a country loses a war, its political system is no good
nice logic

FDR was president how many times in USA? he threatened to remove the authority of the supreme court to achieve his policy goals, yes?
tyrannical government where?

In other words, commies

Um, well you see by that time the thing called World War 2 had started, the time frames show Germany's rise from depression, with Adolf hitler being elected in 1933 you can see immediate increase in Germany's economy, of course it took a hit as the war started, but it still remained strong up until the very last days of the war. And why fascism is good? Complete rid and ban of all forms of degeneracy. Instill a national pride and love into the people for the country. Build the nation's strength by making the people strong, both physically and mentally. Achieve true glory for the country, peaking the nation's strength and economy like never before.

Can you look at your own country and see anything other than failure

>war is a large scale debate

>If Fascism is so great why did they start a war that they lost?
>Hitler started the war

>If Fascism is so great why did they start a war that they lost?
>start the war
>he still thinks Hitler started the War

Wew Hitler only took back pre Treaty of Versailles area of Germany which Bismarck and the early German unification movement had fought to unite after hundreds of years of waiting. League of Nations a shit btw.

No, the real war was against the jews and their influence on western culture. I bit too extreme and esoteric for most, so people saw this as declaring war on the "world" because people didn;t realize that via central banking jews essentially did own the world. Churchill was a war mongerer, and of course Stalin was trying to fulfill Russia's dreams of conquering Eastern Europe for russian and communist supremency. Fascism arose among Germany because most of the fascists realized that the coming war between the communists and capitalists would tear right through Germany and Italy.

Thats not an argument against its economic and political ideas.

An ideology being self-destructive isn't a valid criticism? You guys are don't seem able to present any substance for why fascism is actually desirable.

>Um, well you see by that time the thing called World War 2 had started, the time frames show Germany's rise from depression, with Adolf hitler being elected in 1933 you can see immediate increase in Germany's economy, of course it took a hit as the war started, but it still remained strong up until the very last days of the war.
The great depression was not exclusive to Germany and other countries pulled themselves out of it without instituting tyrannical governments.

>And why fascism is good? Complete rid and ban of all forms of degeneracy.
>I am a puppet to my disgust sensitivity.

>Instill a national pride and love into the people for the country.
Why is this exclusive to fascism? All the other countries at the time had the same kind of national pride.

>Build the nation's strength by making the people strong, both physically and mentally. Achieve true glory for the country, peaking the nation's strength and economy like never before.
How? This sounds like foolish Utopian thinking.

>You guys are don't seem able to present any substance for why fascism is actually desirable.

>You asked for evidence to show that fascism was not a failure. He shows you some. Now you're going to pull the old "but this isn't REAL evidence" bit?

I knew you were going to do this. It's painful to watch.

It's painful for me to see people become puppets to ideology

Since you're such a generous, enlightened man why don't you go out on a limb and tell us what you believe in.

>self-destructive isn't a valid criticism
>going up against the jew is an pointless

You have no idea how Varg Pilled that statement is. You still have no valid criticisms against fascism except for memes about it.

>All the other countries at the time had the same kind of national pride.
>be canadian

Its almost like their was a long term problem being solved by fascism through racialism which other nations didn't have

>How? This sounds like foolish Utopian thinking.

One of the core tenants of fascism is being inherently against hedonism.

You say that Hitler didn't start the war and then say that he did start a war against the Jewish controlled countries and to reclaim what he saw as rightful German lands.
So did he start it or not?

I know the risks, I know what I'm doing.
youtube.com/watch?v=Rys45B4OhV0

I don't attach myself to a political ideology because all it does is blind you. I know that I am biased towards conservatism.

>accuse me of arguing in memes
>spout memes
Ok, bud.
You guys buy in too hard with the Jew meme. Even if it's mostly true it has expanded and is not exclusive to Jews, although the Jewish core is still there.
Canada has issues because of how fractured the 3 founding nations were and are. People still had national pride and faith in the crown (at least anglos did).
You did not answer how.

>I know the risks, I know what I'm doing.
Slay the dragon Paco, don't let it eat you.

Great, I love to hear from guys who have no beliefs or worldviews

>if I dont take a side I win

I told you I am biased towards conservatism but that isn't enough for someone blinded by ideology like you because you see things so black and white.

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Fascists are scoundrels and obtuse brutes. After their quick overturning countries are left in ruin. They are frustrated men seeking an excuse for revenge, just like communists were.

The real answer is in an open fight against the jewish zionist rule using the very weapons they don't want us to use: rule of law, no double standards, family values and an "open" society not in the sense of Soros but in the sense of not afraid.

Who wants to live under a narrow-minded closed-up fascist society where you cannot be this or that?

Do you faggots think you would be allowed to have your little Sup Forums toy under a fascist regime? Live longer and learn more.Fucking millennials.

What right do you have to tell me that? Do you know what my life is like? Our lives here in Mexico? I had a family member shot in the head by organized criminals because he was a journalist.
Mexico is a godless mess right now, we are drowning in chaos and the government has never been more ineffective, there is no one to establish order we can't go out in the streets without getting robbed by people that are more desperate than immoral. The state has collapsed already.

Truly an intellectual powerhouse i see. A little but of this ideology, a little bit of that. You represnt nothing so you also cannot be debated.

Who ever said that a fascist societe cant be open? What do you even consider open

Fascism == Everyone must adhere to the same culture and values. That's certainly less open than your mother's cunt.

M8 I would give up anything to establish a fascist state, this phone and computer and website is nothing more than useless time wasting materials to me. I in fact would promote the banning of this degenerate website, there is no room for NEETs in a fascist society.

Some people want to be free from degeneracy. Don't hold it against them.

>Truly an intellectual powerhouse i see. A little but of this ideology, a little bit of that. You represnt nothing so you also cannot be debated.

This is fascism general. You guys are supposed to present your case. Why does it matter what I believe? I'm conservative leaning but I don't worship the free market like most of them seem to.

You are right. Posting memes is the pinnacle of discussion.

>I am a puppet to my disgust sensitivity.

If I'm living in a country, I shouldnt be able to shit on it's culture or values beyond valid criticism

Why the fuck do you think that should be a right?

A deep-tissue scan has revealed your true ideology: shitposting

Any real fascists or is everyone a LARPing revolutionary these days?

This goes for the left side too

Everyone, STOP RESPONDING TO THIS BRAIN WASHED IDIOT.
Hypocrite, you keep talking of the risks of ideology, and then you parrot JBP, What he has said is your ideology now, you are the most "possessed" of all here.
You have not shown a single idea that is your own.

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A case was presented, and dismissed. Your argument seemed to boil down to ad homs. Do you need another case?
Are you implying doing bad things is trully freedom, there is an argument against that

I would say most of us here are real fascists, I have developed my own personal fascist view, and am working to develop a system that could best fit my country. A true fascist to me is one who comes up with a system for his own country, provided, one had already not been made for it before

You guys seem cool, if you'd like feel free to join our fascist general discord server

discord.gg/DpVjb

You guys have done twice as much complaining that I don't convert to fascism as you have presenting actual arguments. Not surprising that authoritarians get so easily frustrated that someone doesn't submit to them.

just for the record, we actually complained about your faulty logic, bad argumentation, and intellectual cowardice. you never really said anything relevant about fascism

CIA?
That was never said. I also doubt you can read our minds

Nah we are legit, from all over the world.

Oh snap, chekd

nope, just looking for active goys. but maybe I am FBI

You guys are the ones making the claim that fascism is the way forward. My job should be to challenge your claims but all you do is cry when I do. Anyways this has just devolved into garbage posting. Try to get together a better case for next time with less focus on the infographs.

These seem like quite the normal graphs. Are they not to your liking?