Thread for discussion of Italian Fascism, and other forms of fascism, Mosley, Codreanu, Falange, etc. Also for sharing fascist literature and information.
A Fascist general for Fascists and those interested
Be respectful and please try to keep conversations relatively "intellectual"
Good fascists/similar or influential people to get an introduction
Oswald Mosely Jose Antonio Primo de Rivera Benito Mussolini Adolf Hitler Stepan Bandera Corneliu Zelea Codreanu Salazar Ramiro Ledesma Ramos Ettore Ovazza Gaetano Mosca Friedrich Nietzsche Charles Maurras Enrico Corradini Filippo Tommaso Marinetti Johann Plenge Alceste De Ambris Gabriele d'Annunzio George Lincoln Rockwell Juan PerĂ³n Giovanni Gentile Julius Evola Konstantin Rodzaevsky Francisco Rolao Preto Dimitrije Ljotic
Types of Fascism
Italian Falangism National-Syndicalism British Union National-Socialism Strasserism Meme futurism Clerical Fascism Brazilian Integralism Peronism
"[Fascism] was an explosion against intolerable conditions, against remediable wrongs which the old world failed to remedy. It was a movement to secure national renaissance by people who felt themselves threatened with decline into decadence and death and were determined to live, and live greatly."~Oswald Mosely
>philosophic conception Fascism is thought and action. It is action with an inherent doctrine which, arising out of a given system of historic forces, is inserted in it and works on it from within. It has therefore a form co-related to the contingencies of time and place; but it has at the same time an ideal content which elevates it into a formula of truth in the higher region of the history of thought.
Mason Jenkins
>spiritual conception To Fascism the world is not this material world which appears on the surface, in which man is an individual separated from all other men, standing by himself and subject to a natural law which instinctively impels him to lead a life of momentary and egoistic pleasure. In Fascism man is an individual who is the nation and the country. He is this by a moral law which embraces and binds together individuals and generations in an established tradition and mission, a moral law which suppresses the instinct to lead a life confined to a brief cycle of pleasure in order, instead, to replace it within the orbit of duty in a superior conception of life, free from the limits of time and space a life in which the individual by self-abnegation and by the sacrifice of his particular interests, even by death, realises the entirely spiritual existence in which his value as a man consists.
Asher Rivera
>ethical conception This positive conception of life is evidently an ethical conception. And it comprises the whole reality as well as the human activity which domineers it. No action is to be removed from the moral sense; nothing is to be in the world that is divested of the importance which belongs to it in respect of moral aims. Life, therefore, as the Fascist conceives it, is serious, austere, religious; entirely balanced in a world sustained by the moral and responsible forces of the spirit. The Fascist disdains the "easy" life.
Camden Murphy
>religious conception Fascism is a religious conception in which man is considered to be in the powerful grip of a superior law, with an objective will which transcends the particular individual and elevates him into a fully conscious member of a spiritual society. Anyone who has stopped short at the mere consideration of opportunism in the religious policy of the Fascist Regime, has failed to understand that Fascism, besides being a system of government, is also a system of thought.
Landon Miller
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Adrian Martin
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Zachary Williams
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Jace Carter
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Bentley Baker
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Landon Brooks
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Elijah Diaz
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Sebastian Moore
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Landon Gray
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Andrew Fisher
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James Sanders
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Sebastian Foster
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Gabriel Green
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Brody Murphy
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Brody Harris
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Aaron Morris
There is absolutely no need to be fascists in order to oppose global cartels and mafias.
The return of fascism is nothing but yet another effort to minimize, ridicule and marginalize rising sentiment of awareness and opposition to plots against humanity.
Anyone who declares support for fascism, Hitler and the like is nothing but a jewish zionist shill and should not be listened to.
Hunter Lewis
Gonna need evidence to back up that claim famalam.
Ayden Foster
Seems like the global bankers and the internationalists are doing very well right now and suppress fascism. Your argument is very strange
Leo Rodriguez
Guess I'm a Jewish Zionist shill now, who knew?
Ethan Rodriguez
False, some of us are actually convinced that military values and strict adherence to national identity are desirable. Also I have seen the left and right fail in my country, both when from close to the center to near the extremes, a third position is needed.
Connor Gonzalez
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Jeremiah Cooper
What's wrong with him?
Brody Roberts
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Sebastian Howard
What
Jordan Brown
>liberal fascists
Jaxon Reed
>facists(sic)
Nolan Miller
WHAT!!! WHO WROTE THAT SHIT
Xavier Long
>facists god I hate this meme, "haha SJWs are the real fascists" "SJWs are like hitler"
Jaxson Williams
>Liberal Fascists
Ryan Ross
>Take in interest in politics >Can't even figure out what liberal and fascist mean
Benjamin Edwards
Can someone please explain meme futurism to me? How is it a type of fascism and what are the tenets? Thanks for your input and hail victory as always!
Michael Turner
We need to create a must read list for fascist literature. Not just Sup Forums but something uniquely /fsg/
Jayden Cook
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Hudson Rivera
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Adam King
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Evan Anderson
Can you guys explain how you look at fascism and see anything other than failure?
Evan Campbell
>dems are the real racists >commies are the the real fascists
Lolbertarians everyone
Samuel Parker
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Brody Hernandez
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Brody Stewart
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Austin Sanchez
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Juan Bennett
Can you explain how you look at Canada and see anything other than failure?
Aaron Barnes
Can you explain how you look at multiculturalism and see anything other than slow suicide?
Charles Price
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Austin Edwards
>failure
It worked everywhere it was tried. It was hailed as an economic miracle practically everywhere.
Jack Brown
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Jordan Davis
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Luis Cook
It is basically the same thing as fascism but with a much larger emphasis on technological and scientifical progressions, yet retaining traditional values and culture
Anthony Carter
>unsourced >very limited time frame Show me how germany did past 1941 all the way to the present.
There are people that are nostalgic of the USSR too. If you can't actually articulate why it's good and just post meme pictures that may as well be propaganda then you aren't going to convince anyone you are actually enlightened.
Andrew Moore
You know what started in 1939, right?
Ian Bennett
You asked for evidence to show that fascism was not a failure. He shows you some. Now you're going to pull the old "but this isn't REAL evidence" bit?
Blake Parker
If Fascism is so great why did they start a war that they lost?
The great depression was not exclusive to Germany and other countries pulled themselves out of it without instituting tyrannical governments. Asking for an expanded comparison is not unfair and it is also not unfair to say that his graphs should have a source considering the type of propaganda that spreads between people advocating for fascism.
Justin Moore
>There is absolutely no need to be fascists in order to oppose global cartels and mafias Thats where your wrong schlomo
Zachary Williams
>If a country loses a war, its political system is no good nice logic
FDR was president how many times in USA? he threatened to remove the authority of the supreme court to achieve his policy goals, yes? tyrannical government where?
Henry Hughes
In other words, commies
Noah Harris
Um, well you see by that time the thing called World War 2 had started, the time frames show Germany's rise from depression, with Adolf hitler being elected in 1933 you can see immediate increase in Germany's economy, of course it took a hit as the war started, but it still remained strong up until the very last days of the war. And why fascism is good? Complete rid and ban of all forms of degeneracy. Instill a national pride and love into the people for the country. Build the nation's strength by making the people strong, both physically and mentally. Achieve true glory for the country, peaking the nation's strength and economy like never before.
Landon Sullivan
Can you look at your own country and see anything other than failure
Cameron Barnes
>war is a large scale debate
Mason Baker
>If Fascism is so great why did they start a war that they lost? >Hitler started the war
Liam Sullivan
>If Fascism is so great why did they start a war that they lost? >start the war >he still thinks Hitler started the War
Wew Hitler only took back pre Treaty of Versailles area of Germany which Bismarck and the early German unification movement had fought to unite after hundreds of years of waiting. League of Nations a shit btw.
No, the real war was against the jews and their influence on western culture. I bit too extreme and esoteric for most, so people saw this as declaring war on the "world" because people didn;t realize that via central banking jews essentially did own the world. Churchill was a war mongerer, and of course Stalin was trying to fulfill Russia's dreams of conquering Eastern Europe for russian and communist supremency. Fascism arose among Germany because most of the fascists realized that the coming war between the communists and capitalists would tear right through Germany and Italy.
Thats not an argument against its economic and political ideas.
Andrew Gomez
An ideology being self-destructive isn't a valid criticism? You guys are don't seem able to present any substance for why fascism is actually desirable.
>Um, well you see by that time the thing called World War 2 had started, the time frames show Germany's rise from depression, with Adolf hitler being elected in 1933 you can see immediate increase in Germany's economy, of course it took a hit as the war started, but it still remained strong up until the very last days of the war. The great depression was not exclusive to Germany and other countries pulled themselves out of it without instituting tyrannical governments.
>And why fascism is good? Complete rid and ban of all forms of degeneracy. >I am a puppet to my disgust sensitivity.
>Instill a national pride and love into the people for the country. Why is this exclusive to fascism? All the other countries at the time had the same kind of national pride.
>Build the nation's strength by making the people strong, both physically and mentally. Achieve true glory for the country, peaking the nation's strength and economy like never before. How? This sounds like foolish Utopian thinking.
Oliver Howard
>You guys are don't seem able to present any substance for why fascism is actually desirable.
>You asked for evidence to show that fascism was not a failure. He shows you some. Now you're going to pull the old "but this isn't REAL evidence" bit?
I knew you were going to do this. It's painful to watch.
Nathan Johnson
It's painful for me to see people become puppets to ideology
Kevin Flores
Since you're such a generous, enlightened man why don't you go out on a limb and tell us what you believe in.
Henry Diaz
>self-destructive isn't a valid criticism >going up against the jew is an pointless
You have no idea how Varg Pilled that statement is. You still have no valid criticisms against fascism except for memes about it.
>All the other countries at the time had the same kind of national pride. >be canadian
Its almost like their was a long term problem being solved by fascism through racialism which other nations didn't have
>How? This sounds like foolish Utopian thinking.
One of the core tenants of fascism is being inherently against hedonism.
Parker Reyes
You say that Hitler didn't start the war and then say that he did start a war against the Jewish controlled countries and to reclaim what he saw as rightful German lands. So did he start it or not?
I don't attach myself to a political ideology because all it does is blind you. I know that I am biased towards conservatism.
>accuse me of arguing in memes >spout memes Ok, bud. You guys buy in too hard with the Jew meme. Even if it's mostly true it has expanded and is not exclusive to Jews, although the Jewish core is still there. Canada has issues because of how fractured the 3 founding nations were and are. People still had national pride and faith in the crown (at least anglos did). You did not answer how.
>I know the risks, I know what I'm doing. Slay the dragon Paco, don't let it eat you.
Josiah Sanchez
Great, I love to hear from guys who have no beliefs or worldviews
Nathan Miller
>if I dont take a side I win
Andrew Long
I told you I am biased towards conservatism but that isn't enough for someone blinded by ideology like you because you see things so black and white.
Luis Ward
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Carter Powell
Fascists are scoundrels and obtuse brutes. After their quick overturning countries are left in ruin. They are frustrated men seeking an excuse for revenge, just like communists were.
The real answer is in an open fight against the jewish zionist rule using the very weapons they don't want us to use: rule of law, no double standards, family values and an "open" society not in the sense of Soros but in the sense of not afraid.
Who wants to live under a narrow-minded closed-up fascist society where you cannot be this or that?
Do you faggots think you would be allowed to have your little Sup Forums toy under a fascist regime? Live longer and learn more.Fucking millennials.
Benjamin Wilson
What right do you have to tell me that? Do you know what my life is like? Our lives here in Mexico? I had a family member shot in the head by organized criminals because he was a journalist. Mexico is a godless mess right now, we are drowning in chaos and the government has never been more ineffective, there is no one to establish order we can't go out in the streets without getting robbed by people that are more desperate than immoral. The state has collapsed already.
Jaxon Brown
Truly an intellectual powerhouse i see. A little but of this ideology, a little bit of that. You represnt nothing so you also cannot be debated.
Who ever said that a fascist societe cant be open? What do you even consider open
Isaiah James
Fascism == Everyone must adhere to the same culture and values. That's certainly less open than your mother's cunt.
Eli Ross
M8 I would give up anything to establish a fascist state, this phone and computer and website is nothing more than useless time wasting materials to me. I in fact would promote the banning of this degenerate website, there is no room for NEETs in a fascist society.
Parker Garcia
Some people want to be free from degeneracy. Don't hold it against them.
Landon Reed
>Truly an intellectual powerhouse i see. A little but of this ideology, a little bit of that. You represnt nothing so you also cannot be debated.
This is fascism general. You guys are supposed to present your case. Why does it matter what I believe? I'm conservative leaning but I don't worship the free market like most of them seem to.
You are right. Posting memes is the pinnacle of discussion.
>I am a puppet to my disgust sensitivity.
Mason Collins
If I'm living in a country, I shouldnt be able to shit on it's culture or values beyond valid criticism
Why the fuck do you think that should be a right?
Asher Stewart
A deep-tissue scan has revealed your true ideology: shitposting
Aaron Russell
Any real fascists or is everyone a LARPing revolutionary these days?
This goes for the left side too
Carson Price
Everyone, STOP RESPONDING TO THIS BRAIN WASHED IDIOT. Hypocrite, you keep talking of the risks of ideology, and then you parrot JBP, What he has said is your ideology now, you are the most "possessed" of all here. You have not shown a single idea that is your own.
Caleb Williams
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Chase Diaz
A case was presented, and dismissed. Your argument seemed to boil down to ad homs. Do you need another case? Are you implying doing bad things is trully freedom, there is an argument against that
Ryder Hernandez
I would say most of us here are real fascists, I have developed my own personal fascist view, and am working to develop a system that could best fit my country. A true fascist to me is one who comes up with a system for his own country, provided, one had already not been made for it before
Cameron Flores
You guys seem cool, if you'd like feel free to join our fascist general discord server
You guys have done twice as much complaining that I don't convert to fascism as you have presenting actual arguments. Not surprising that authoritarians get so easily frustrated that someone doesn't submit to them.
Juan Reed
just for the record, we actually complained about your faulty logic, bad argumentation, and intellectual cowardice. you never really said anything relevant about fascism
William Phillips
CIA? That was never said. I also doubt you can read our minds
Ian Gray
Nah we are legit, from all over the world.
Jaxson Cooper
Oh snap, chekd
Brandon Gray
nope, just looking for active goys. but maybe I am FBI
Brody Bailey
You guys are the ones making the claim that fascism is the way forward. My job should be to challenge your claims but all you do is cry when I do. Anyways this has just devolved into garbage posting. Try to get together a better case for next time with less focus on the infographs.
Benjamin Kelly
These seem like quite the normal graphs. Are they not to your liking?