For the love of god... please... just fucking please read this. Make the false victimhood stop...

For the love of god... please... just fucking please read this. Make the false victimhood stop, all the other SJW nonsense rests on the "settled science" of the necessity for wealth redistribution. The rich don't owe you anything, literally nothing.

> fucking jew globalist shill, there's no fucking way the people with wealth could ever be the victim. I mean come on, do you realize how fucking unintuitive that sounds? Are you trying to tell me the world isn't as easy as 2 + 2?

Please stop being your own worst enemy. The universe does not give a FLYING FUCK how hard you physically work, it only cares how well you educate yourselves.

You've been fucked by public schooling. You've been made into an idiot, you've been made soft, because the fucking marxists with their god damn good intentions have decided to protect you from the harshness of the world thus damning you to a perpetual state of inability to deal with those harsh realities.

If you make minimum wage, it's because that's all you're fucking good for. If you don't like it learn how to be more productive. It's not just about MUH HARD WORK, it's about learning how to be more productive by acquiring skills in innovative areas of life.

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Sowell, and by extension Milton Friedman, are based af

>Seriously buying into the idea that Marx's analysis of capitalism isn't completely spot on and "muh totally fair market transactions" justifies assassinating democratically elected leaders in other countries and replacing them with American backed dictators in order to 'invest' in their resources

the more commies get thrown out of helicopters the better. MLK was all nice and good until he started talking about unionization and other commie shit and that got him wasted. good riddance, i say.

Also just like to add the "automation problem" is 99% pure marxist memery. There are no hard limits to the amount of ways in which humans can be productive, only soft ones.

The reality is that human knowledge is advancing exponentially while becoming increasingly specialized, and if you refuse to keep up and adapt you have no one but yourself to blame. You can learn all kinds of amazing skills through the internet.

> Implying maniacal interventionist foreign policy of the U.S. government isn't inherently rooted in the very same logical flaws that lead to other kinds of central planning

You're probably beyond help.

Ayy based book and based Uncle Tom! I'm half way through right now.

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So much this.

wew lad
you must have extensive gymnastics experience to make that leap straya

>There are no hard limits to the amount of ways in which humans can be productive, only soft ones.

This is completely true, but why would you want this to continue. We totally have the resources so what most people could work 25 hours a week or less under luxury gay space elf communism already and of most people agreed to implement that, how many would honestly object to having that much more time to raise their family, take on their own projects, go on holidays and do what the fuck they want.

The whole point of capitalism is to advance shit enough to obsolete itself, by (((you))) hate that and want everyone to work themselves to death fighting over the remaining resources.

> actual economist vs. some virtue signalling leftist entrepreneur

Hmmmm...

>implying i care about money at all

>whatever filename you have
>not laughing whores.jpg
Fucking commies are literally intellectually defunct.

You're not even making a point. A democratically elected leader, of the usa, plays Grand Chess Board with other leaders who are ellected and out plays them. That's how the world always worked. One is a loser the other is a winner.
>"It's not FAIR!!!! :((((((("
Yah, but that5's how the world opperates and always will, unfairly. The weak get fucked in the ass. Commiers will always fall, try it again and liberty will fuck you in the ass over and over again.

You can reincarnate the soviet union one million times over and it will suffer the same fate over and over. Just like every iteration of communism.

>You've been fucked by public schooling. You've been made into an idiot, you've been made soft, because the fucking marxists with their god damn good intentions have decided to protect you from the harshness of the world thus damning you to a perpetual state of inability to deal with those harsh realities.

This is like 90% of the problem in modern society

> We totally have the resources so what most people could work 25 hours a week

NO, NO WE DON'T. There are 7 billion fucking people on this planet, they need to develop skills for themselves and be SELF SUFFICIENT. If you took ALL the income of the top 10% it still wouldn't be enough to make socialism work because socialism is 100% asinine bullshit that goes against the inherent nature of reality.

Even you try to dig into their assets and investments, you just kill the economy in the process. The people who created that wealth in the first place are the very best people to be in charge of it! They know how to manage it and get the most out of it, they'll create 10 jobs for every 1 job the government could ever "create". Or in other words every time the government says something stupid like "we just created 10,000 jobs", what they actually did is destroy 90,000 other jobs in the process. It's called opportunity cost.

>19th century economic criticism in anyway applies to today

This isn't actually true user. There are consequentialist arguments for not fucking with the rest of the world willy nilly. There are even solid consequentialist arguments for freely trading with the citizens of your sworn enemies. Ron Paul doesn't believe in any of that interventionist shit Mr. Commie was referring too, it's just another form of central planning except on a global scale. He also doesn't believe in 99% of any the other shit the government does.

Self defense is self defense though, WWII was probably one of the only just wars of the 20th century from America's perspective.

You're playing into the commies hands by defending shit that has nothing to do with the ideas of classical liberals like Sowell and Paul.

and not a single argument was made that day

>There are consequentialist arguments for not fucking with the rest of the world willy nilly
Substatiant your claims regarding America. America continues to do so and cannot be stopped. The faux leaders the soviet fucktards put in power were taken down bow the USA. USA put even fucktarded stupid leaders, like the theocratic Iranian, incharge and yet still milk them to USA's advantage.
You are assuming what Ron Paul belives without supporting as such, so i will do the same. I believe that the federal power should be reduced, as Paul, but given that it still holds the capacity that it does it still needs to and continues to play the Grand Chess Board and continues to win. Commies continue to lose. Communism always has and always will continue to lose.

The Soviet Union, under Lenin or Stallin, was so econimcally fucked that they couldn't even produce enough small arms to sufficiently protect themselves that they had to buy externally from the USA. Their interall communist products were fucking trash, they coudln't even produce a car that would have a service life longer than 5 years. Communist products are always a fucking joke. That's the power of the Free Market. I only wish that in the USA we had an even less regulated Market, closer to a Smithian view, that would allow for increase innovation. Shit like the Federal Firearms ban under Bill Cliton really fucked innovation in that market because instead of building upon exsisting tech they had to appease these bullshit regulations and revert to old designs instead of pushing forward.

That you ObamaLeaf?

1. Bush (alone) didn't crash the economy. The housing bubble was the result of a myriad policies going back to Clinton, the Federal Reserve's cheap money, Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac, etc.

2. All Obama did was dope the horse, get a new bubble going (stock market bubble) and set the debt skyrocketing. Far from "saving" the economy, he has actually put us on the path to an even worse recession down the road, a trade-off for short term relief.

3. Bush inherited both of Clinton's bubbles (housing and dotcom). Trump will now inherit Obama's bubble (stock market).

4. If I were you, I would do some more research on what causes the boom and bust cycle, and understand that the recession is actually the painful healing process that must take place after a period of malinvestment.

5. I do think you're right in that the poor and middle classes should get preferential treatment when it comes to tax cuts. However, cutting spending is just as, if not more, important. Something the Republicans are even worse at than Democrats.

>don't try and make a difference goy
I bet you're also against the 8 hr work week, minimum wage, child labor laws and literally all the other great things that unions fought for which you benefit from today. You're nothing but a boot licking piece of turd fighting against your fellow man. You're a nobody, just another swine vestige of the crooked neoliberal establishment. The rich and powerful do what they want and get away with it. That's why Trump won. Because we got sick of their shot and look at you now groveling and kissing their feet like a cuck. You deserve to be shot for being a class traitor.

Based Sowell's 3 questions to destroy just about any leftist argument -


‘Compared to what?’

‘At what cost?’

‘What hard evidence do you have?’

thanks op I will read this book

economics is already a subject in highschool, does that count?

Sowell is a retarded neoliberal piece of filth and a globalist. He supports free trade, TPP and the outsourcing of American jobs. Why? Because he's a filthy pawn of the Jews. As long as profits are coming it doesn't matter what happens. He would rather veterans die then give them health care because hurr durr let the market sort it out. Neoliberals are subhuman kikes and anyone who supports these neoliberal scum deserves to be labeled as a class and race traitor and deserves to be hanged.

>waaaaahhhhh i could be rich if i really wanted to

Shut the fuck up you whinny little bitch. You have no aspirations, i get it. Participate in the fuckign workforce and stop making assumptions. People are rich and you want to take what is theirs, i get it. You lost the roll of the die and weren't born into riches. Fucking work for it them instead of assuming others should give it to you. In America, according to the stats, most wealth is earned an not given. FUcking work you piece of shit instead of whing about the earned bourgeoisie you fucking faggot loser commie.

this

Is that so?

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>le jews
>capitalism is bad because i have to work instead of gibmes

After all to give a little of ones wealth in exchange for stability within the society and political theater is wiser than to get killed by a mob during a "revolution" or civil unrest because the "plebs" are starving.

Also infrastructure does not maintain itself for free.

What makes you think I don't work you subhuman kike? So because I don't want my fellow white men to not struggle because Jews have outsourced their jobs and made health care expensive it means I don't work? What kind of retarded assumption is this?

Have you taken a good look at Hitler's economic policies or Mussolini? They were all for big government. Job programs. Nationalized health care. Nationalized industries. I's kikes Milton Friedman and Reagan and Clinton who destroyed the white middle class and you support them. simply because you're a traitor. Like the Jews you only care for yourself and your own profit. The other white people who are struggling? Fuck those trailer trash!! Pull yourself up from your bootstraps. Work harder goy! Don't mind the kikes who don't work yet earn billions in interest and dividends because they happen to be bankers.

Don't call yourself a white nationalist. Because a white nationalist doesn't advocate for systems like (((free market capitalism))) which hurt his people and which are globalist.. Because guess what? Profit and capital is global.

Call yourself a filthy hook nosed kike. Which is what you are. It's all about you you you and your own profits. When the real white nationalists rise up then people like you, will suffer for being traitors.

why read it?

youtube.com/watch?v=dQiBD-crrvA

>learning economics from a man who was too retarded to handle his own personal finances

Solidargemeinschaft > Sowell Fantasies

is this fact? someone let me know because I was getting ready to crack open the book but now I don't know if I should take the time to read

What kind of cognitive dissonance do you have to have to call yourself a white nationalist and then recommend people to read a book by a globalist nigger who literally advocates outsourcing of jobs and deregulation the (((banks))) and wants more globalism. Ffs.

Globalism = neoliberal free market capitalism. Globalism = Thomas Sowell and Milton Friedman.

Any real nationalist would not support this nigger and his kike free market economics.

If you can't make an argument without resorting to profanity laced tirades, you'll never "rise up"

Stay salty, friend

>What makes you think I don't work you subhuman kike?
Because you are advocating communism or socialism though nazism. Mainly because you are blaiming others """jews"""" for outsourcing your jobs without providing support.

Then you accuse hard work as a """(((jewish potl)))"""""
>Pull yourself up from your bootstraps. Work harder goy!
That's my main support for why you are a fucking loser non working commie fucking loser. Playing, trading, and managing capital is work. If you fucking owned capital, tried being an entrepreneur you would know, that it is hard work and time consuming mentally an intellectually to manage capital and labor. Fucking commies losers trying to conflate hard work with globalism.

Of course. Read any of his books. It's people like Sowell who helped destroy the American white middle class. Much like that disgusting midget kike Milton Friedman. Why do you think people like Sowell and Mark Levin disagree with Trump on trade? Because they're globalist. They want more free trade, more loss of jobs, more profits and less for the white workers who are struggling.

He's trying to make you believe that hard work == globalism. He is just some commie loser that wan'ts gibmes and is trying to justify needing gibmes by blaming external forces.

B-b-ut muh hidden hand! :^)

>tfw living in social market economy

>I bet youre against the 8 hour work week

I like being able to make as much fucking money as Im damn well pleased to make or not make

>minimum wage
"HURRRR FUCKING DURR LABOR CREATES VALUE HURRR"

I bet any money you haven't even entered the job market yet you idealist libertarian cuckhold. It's very easy to talk like this when you don't work. Anyway I'm done with you. I'm going to continue to advocate for policies that help my people instead advocate for global capitalism (globalism) like a cuck traitor like you.

Also by your logic having more Mexican immigrants is perfectly okay because it provides cheap labor for capitalists like you. In free market economics this would be fine. And Sowell would even agree. White nationalism/fascism as we know it goes against free market economics. Deal with it.

Also none of the things I advocated are communist you fucking ignorant low IQ cuck. Socialism = workers control of means of production and abolishment of private property. I'm advocating for Social Democratic reforms WITHIN the capitalist system. I'm not against capitalism I'm against (((free market capitalism))) which is globalism. FDR and Hitler implemented the policies I advocate for before the neoliberal kikes ruined it all.

>White nationalism

>He's trying to make you believe that hard work == globalism.

See, this is the kind of argument these people resort to. 'Global free trade' is really just hard working people being rewarded for their valuable efforts. You're not a lazy bitch are you? Then you should support everything it stands for, for the chance that you too will become part of the elite as long as you work for it.

Sowell is on record saying he's in favor of preventing illegal immigration by any means necessary including a wall. You are uninformed and you talk like a Marxist.

Finished Basic Economics last month. The book is outstanding in every way possible and I couldn't recommend it enough. That and The Law by Bastiat are some of the best reputations of Socialism I've come across. I'm starting The Road to Serfdom next week

"YOU CAN BE RIGHT WING AND NOT BE A WN? WHAAAAAAAAAAAT?"

cry me a river collectivist subhuman. Go live in the jungle with the ants and the chimps if you want to live in a world of group think.

Americans are cucked beyond belief. Especially the Republicans. Trump is a step in the right direction precisely because he understands these things. We need less free market capitalist which has destroyed us.

Good goy deregulate the banks!!! Let the kikes do whatever they want with no restrictions! Minimum wage laws?? Goy no!! If you pay workers more, then Mr. Goldberg will fire you!! Nationalizing health care!!! No goy Mr. Silverstein who owns an insurance company will lose a lot of profits.. yes goy the (((free market))) will save you.

This. We should not be economically dependent on third world nations.

Ugh, Christ. Sometimes I hate how stormfag socialists reflect on the right. You're more concerned with your dumb ideology than hard results.

Then as a free market capitalist you should be okay with open borders. What?! You're afraid to compete with Paco who will work for 80% less? Why? Are a communist who wants to be protected from competition? In a free market, open borders is a must.

At the end of the day you're a filthy rat globalist. And guess what? Your side is losing.

>is against collectivism
>claims to be a white nationalist

You're confused. Nationalism is collectivist by definition you ignorant moron.

>Trump is a step in the right direction precisely because he understands these things.
You wut now mate?

It's not Global free trade you fucktard. It's national free undregulated free trade that will make our domestic industry and GDP rise you fucking commie socialist scum. We need tarrifs against fucking shit backwards commie and socialist countries to increase our National and fellow catialist countries economies. Commies have always created shit products and limit innovation. An low regulated, non monopolized, market is the epitome of innovation. Fucking commies.

Actually Id be for open borders if we didn have a massive welfare state to support parasites like you and pacos 15 children which is funded by the gun to my head.

>your side is losing

You seem awfully confident in that sentiment, dont you? Well see. If England goes the way the conservatives want it to and Macron win out over Le Pen, probably not. East Asia is certainly not going the way of labor.

You dumb fuck

When did I claim to be a WN you illiterate fucking neanderthal?

Point it out to me.

I'm drunk, it's the weekend, and hate commies.

I agree. Disregard my drunk rant at you.

Dude's off his meds

Economic education is one of the best things you can do for yourself. If you don't, then just plan on being a dumb dumb forever.

>Actually Id be for open borders
That's all we needed to know m8.

And that is it ladies and gentlmen. These free market cucks are nothing more than globalists in disguise.

Get a load of this booty blasted stormfag. You're the type of person who'd praise Trump for his economic protectionism yet decry Sanders for the exact same thing. You're horseshoe theory in action. You really think free markets lead to monopoly more than fascist protectionism? You're a lost cause

So why are you here then? The cuckservatives are at /r/the_donald.

Also it's my fault. It shouldn't have surprised me that a guy who wants more global capitalism wouldn't be in favor of his people.

No I support Sanders for his protectionism. Nice assumption there dickhead.

>Sup Forums is one person

Maybe you should head over to Reddit, after all that's the place for feels before reals

>implying Im a cuckservative

No Im just not a retarded racial nationalist. I will align with my ethnic group only so far as it benefits me. White nationalism would not benefit me as thoroughly as an efficient capitalist system.

You seem to be forgetting the thing that WN always forget. You are not a majority, not even here. In fact youre a minority. Always have been, and always will be. We let you to the table and the second you make a fool of us well correct that. We abide your ignorance as tool against the left, and the second youve exhausted your purpose, just as the left abandons minorities and gays the second it achieves what it wants, you will disposed of. This is the course of history on both sides of the aisle. Merit means more than skin color. I appreciate some ethnic pride in the same way i appreciate a sermon. But we have no interest in true believers.

subjective

>Jews are based

Why can't these free market kikes realize that you can be a capitalist and still advocate for social democratic reforms like nationalized health care and education. It's bewildering that these cucks don't seem to be understand this. Despite the fact that they already live in a society where some of these reforms are already there.

You can be for capitalism whilst still advocating for regulation of banks for example.

Fucking free market cucks being the extremist retarded ideologues that they are can never understand this and will call you a commie if you support these things when Trump aka they guy they support wants more spending on public infrastructure and wants more protectionism. Dumb cucks.

Hey, you are feces. If I could suck the sky, all the hardmers could possibly manage the more difficult the pattern of the bread. I fully understand. I deal with anbybody. Anbybody handles all personal acts in a reasonable response, but we will deal with it, but we respect it. I understand that handle'd treats it this way. I could handle my password easily, but I am convinced that it is emptiness that I wasted my defense community and I could not protect myself

Reading a single book about econ does not make you understand economics.

Of course you're not a WN when you're not even white, Shlomo. Back into the oven you go.

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You should get that checked out by a professional you know, it looks unhealthy.

>Sowell

>implying banks need regulation if you don have a massive state capable of catering to and favoring them

>advocate for social democratic reforms like nationalized health care and education.

Ok lets switch out some words

>advocate for social democratic reforms like nationalized mail and roads.

Oh wait, but we know for a fact that the private sector does both of these things better

So lets switch is back. Oh wait, private sector health care provides a much higher quality of care. Oh wait private schools and voucher schools produce cheap and amazing results. So amazing in fact that inner city negro Americans compete with private school white suburbanites.

Wow its almost your ideology is retrograde and shit and is, in fact, fundamentally and methodologically indistinguishable from ethnocommunism. You fucking retard

The only thing I would add to capitalism is tougher regulations on large companies colluding and monopolizing the market.
If bigger companies shut down a smaller company through means other than providing better product/service than them, before that smaller company can become competitive, the CEOs need jail time.
Also, temporarily lowering prices to below cost to destroy your smaller opponent's funds needs to be dealt with harsher penalties.

Basically, capitalism is great, but anyone who fucks with the competitive (in the market) nature of it needs to be removed.

Also, government members who work with big companies to make regulations to ensure small companies can't get off the ground need to face the firing squad.

>Basically, capitalism is great, but anyone who fucks with the competitive (in the market) nature of it needs to be removed.
This x9001
Competition creates innovation.

Trustbusting doesnt strike me as bad. My only problem is Im not sure I trust government cronies to continue busting the trusts, especially problematic ones.

ISPs exhibit A

Also a monopoly on minting is retarded, liberalize the money supply.

Good goy. I'm only rich because I was ((((productive)))).

Just because hes a super villain doesnt mean hes not smarter than anyone in this thread. I can have moral opposition to profiteering off of an inflated financial sector without pretending hes just a 'sneaky jew'. Hes just a banker, bankers arent to be trusted, jewish or not. And they certainly arent to be granted power.

Too bad the free market won't create a wall to keep the Mexican illegals out which is what Americans voted for you lolbertarian cuck :^)

>Selling out your countrymen for a few extra shekels

>And they certainly arent to be granted power.
About 2000 years late for that.

>implying Im a libertarian

The free market wont solve it because its not a natural problem. The market solves natural problems. No welfare state, no immigrant influx.

true

But all things in time ig

Mexico is a shithole they'll still come here

don't ridicule yourself, we had the ressources a hundred years ago, and we still do. See gutenberg.org/files/23428/23428-h/23428-h.htm

nobody mentioned government.

Read the book. It is filled with logic and common sense. Sowell makes economics genuinely stimulating, and you'll wonder how you ever lived without knowing the basic principles he sets out.

There are plenty of clips of Sowell on YT and you'll be smarter for watching any of them.

Mexicans who want to work will come here.

And thats fine. Theres nothing wrong with ALL Mexicans. I mean I could do without all the Catholicism but you cant control everyone,

>these fucking retards believe the 21st century won't be automated

top kek

the only reason my local grocer removed self-checkout was a labor union dispute

i worked a menial job that was replacing sales people with a fucking i3 processor and windows 7

you cucks are delusional, universal minimum aka welfare for all idiots will be the future

myself i got gud and i'm in CSIT now because i know the future

>we have the resources to give a good life to everyone
nope

>the point of capitalism is to achieve communism
fuck off with your cult shit, your religion has no economic basis

>nope
Yes. We already had the resources 150 years ago desu.

(((Sowell)))

I personally study economics at University - however

Just ONE criticism

basic capitalist economics has variety of loaded assumptions, and pretends that everyone uniformly buys into these concepts like "rational" choice, or marginal cost and benefit, opportunity cost, scarcity, etc.

These concepts to me arnt precisely accurate to measure and manage an economy or make effective forecasts and calculations. At the best they're general rules people might follow.

It forces me to personally rewrite even the most basic economics, and correct, as well upgrade, this drivel, and IMO this is often a textbook and source issue. I swear im almost convinced they write economics textbooks in such a way as to make it an incredibly unnecessary concentrated effort to actually critically think about these issues, making it more attractive to just assume everything youre told is true and just memorize the facts.

But of course we dont want anyone thinking and criticizing western economics, do we - lets just subtly make it more attractive to be a robot ;)

[citation needed]

Also why do you think redistributing wealth is even a sound economic decision in the first place?

>Also why do you think redistributing wealth is even a sound economic decision in the first place?
The way wealth is distributed does not depend on any decision. On the contrary, our decisions depend on it.

I'm also not a fan that economics assumes scarcity and is restricted in its temporal interpretations.

If economics really had the best interest of a society, it would create an alternative foundation concept besides scarcity because that assumes characteristics more closely associated with tribalism and hunter-gather societies, its backwards, encouraging more destructive behavior and less creative and economic productivity.

Rather Scarcity needs to be replaced with a new ideology that reflects the potential, aims, and goals, of creating a post-scarcity society with todays labor and technology.

>because the fucking marxists with their god damn good intentions have decided to protect you from the harshness of the world

Yeah; that's kind of the purpose of government dingus.

War is massively profitable, it is due to war that capitalism is as successful as it is, so why oppose it? All the most prosperous periods of the modern era were either during or directly following a major war, if you're on the winning side (which is a given if you are American) you directly benefit from war. Acting in one's own personal self-interest, one ought to support fighting wars, as many as possible in fact, reason be damned. Only when we are fighting for our lives will the factories open back up and start churning like they used to, people will make their living building bombs and tanks and guns, programming missile guidance systems and military training simulations, designing drones, or simply serving in the military itself.

There doesn't need to be a cause, there is profit, that alone is the motivating factor for war, and that is why we will keep fighting wars, it is all part of the capitalist system, so you can either get on board or die.