I have a confession Sup Forums. I'm an atheist and I feel lik shit for it. wat do

I have a confession Sup Forums. I'm an atheist and I feel lik shit for it. wat do

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Kill yourself.

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Stop being a retard who feels superior to a bunch of uneducated goat farmers from 2000 years ago.

You have zero proof god or anything else does not exist

sure, personally I don't believe in god

God is being an asshole for a very long time

god did one good thing, letting people have faith in lives

The evidence that god exists is all contained in the bible, which isn't verifiable. I don't see how you can fault me for not believing. I need something to go on here.

You do not believe in the god in the bible then. people have been having a silly argument about god.

If god was created by the same forces as us he would give zero fucks about human suffering unless something big went wrong. how often do you mourn a white blood cell?

try applying science to theology. do some "prayer experiments" and study the results. form a conclusion based on findings.

This has been studied before, with no advantage being found in prayer.

Fellow atheist here.
Fuck off and stop trying to make the faith of others your concern. Although you believe there's no higher power or a life after death doesn't mean that everyone needs to bow down and worship you for some arbitrary moral superiority. Appreciate it for what it is, and realise that it teaches some stellar values.
Alternatively you can just kill yourself.

Read the gnostic texts and ignore bible thumpers.

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Stop being an atheist so you won't feel "lik" shit anymore?

just be atheist and realize god has a place still as a binding force and to keep the plebs in line

godless societies turn degenerate as fuck

never bash the church only islam

You're having doubts? Open a bible. Talk to a pastor. Just talk to someone. You really might not be as godless as you think you are.

here

this is false, group prayer has been found to be extremely helpful.

A better way of saying this is just that pure freedom is benevolence and tyranny is pure evil.

you deserve to feel like shit

i feel like you didnt even read, or understand the post.

Most pastors are just dickhead salesmen. I'm looking for real evidence.

Read the gnostic texts, they are probably praying to the demiurge.

I'm not saying it's wrong, but that's what the wall of text boils down to.

Stop talking to bible thumpers and learn about gnosticism, they cant give you evidence because they dont even know whats up.

the wall of text boils down to there's misinformation all over religion, and christ died on the cross so you didn't have to feel like that.

You're morality is predicated on the ethics of abrahamic religion; even if you are an atheist, you hold axiomatic philosophical doctrine that has stemmed from religion.

When humans first developed agriculture, and quasi societies, religion soon followed suit, though I am oversimplifying for the sake of argument - these people have found certain objective truths that are untenable in all of the members of these quasi societies, things like don't kill, steal, etc.

Now I assume you are an atheist because you have adopted the presuppositions of there being no evidence of god, or the dismissal of certain absurdities found in sacred texts. However, there are ubiquitous truths found in all cultures and religions - those commonalities are what make us human, and are what outlined most religions, those commonalities - you hold.

Religions around the world differ greatly, but they all hold certain presuppositions, presuppositions that sane people hold, like me and you - those religions believe in different gods, and in your case, no god. That does not make you less of a moral person than anyone else due to the fact that species have evolved to feel empathy, in mammals at least, it is why people find other mammals cute, like cats for example, but rarely do people find lizards cute.

My advice is to explore your inner-contradictions, and iron them out as much as possible, understand your world view, and stick to it, you sound confused, not amoral.

w-what is he doing to Trump?

So why did he decide to tell humanity about it when the fastest message traveled via camel when he could have come during the social media era?

just believe in jesus for the free ticket to heaven just in case. I mean why not? What do you have to lose?

buy a good book that argues for the existence of God, or just listen to arguments from podcasts or interviews that will get you to question your presuppositions and ask more questions

satan i invoke you. immerse the world in chaos and bring about the apocalypse. do this so that we may be free of ignorance. so mote it be.

Agnosticism is the only logical belief. There is no evidence that any of the 1000's of deities are more real than the others, just as there is no proof to the contrary.

Pick a religion based on its ethics and how it approaches self improvement.

>You're morality is predicated on the ethics of abrahamic religion; even if you are an atheist, you hold axiomatic philosophical doctrine that has stemmed from religion.

Yes, I agree.

>When humans first developed agriculture, and quasi societies, religion soon followed suit, though I am oversimplifying for the sake of argument - these people have found certain objective truths that are untenable in all of the members of these quasi societies, things like don't kill, steal, etc.

>Now I assume you are an atheist because you have adopted the presuppositions of there being no evidence of god, or the dismissal of certain absurdities found in sacred texts. However, there are ubiquitous truths found in all cultures and religions - those commonalities are what make us human, and are what outlined most religions, those commonalities - you hold.

>Religions around the world differ greatly, but they all hold certain presuppositions, presuppositions that sane people hold, like me and you - those religions believe in different gods, and in your case, no god. That does not make you less of a moral person than anyone else due to the fact that species have evolved to feel empathy, in mammals at least, it is why people find other mammals cute, like cats for example, but rarely do people find lizards cute.

Are you saying human nature is evidence of god?

>apocalypse
An apocalypse (Ancient Greek: ἀποkάλυψις apokálypsis, from ἀπό and kαλύπτω, literally meaning "an uncovering") is a disclosure of knowledge or revelation.

chaos is a catalyst to novelty.

satan is literally humanities best friend.

all god can offer you is bliss.
ignorance is bliss.

eat the fruits of knowledge

My parents raised me secular, and told me I could pick the religion I wanted later in life (wtf?) It's took me a long time, only in the past few months to feel OK with being spiritual. I can't really pick up a religion now though.

Smoke some DMT

>thinking you can lie your way into heaven

Satan literally did nothing wrong.

Dont feel forced to have a certain belief. If you think there is something more to the reality and you feel that something is missing from the reductionistmaterial world theory you just need to study and research.

I myself study Western philosophy and I'm getting all the answers to my questions. If you want a starting point i recommend Hermeticism and Gnosticism.
Read the Kybalion, you have pdf online. My journey started with that book.
Good luck on your path.

>i need a god
why? is there a reason for it?
I do not believe so.
Nor do i care for that matter. I have other things to do.

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I also have a confession to make. I wish Trump would turn America in a collectivist totalitarian military-run theocracy, with himself being considered a living deity, with mandatory military service and religious schools run by strict Orthodox Christian nuns who beat children for disobedience and start each day with a Bellamy salute and a pledge of allegiance to the God-Emperor

I wish he'd invade and conquer the entire West. The era of Darwinism would come to an end as the Aryan race would recognize that they did not descend from African monkeys as these vile liberal Jews want us to believe but are in fact descended from a pure bloodline stretching back to the Garden of Eden that was destined to conquer the moon, the stars and the entire universe.

Of course all non-whites would be purged from this 1000 year American Reich.

youtube.com/watch?v=FdcpSehNlFU

Pick a religion and don't take it literally. I bet you take your atheism super literally, stop doing that, it makes you smell bad.
>Are you saying human nature is evidence of god?
God is a manifestation of human nature, and it's there wether you believe it or not.

youtube.com/watch?v=BCIqVlELCts

If Cruz had become President you might have seen this happen

My friend's a pastor and very kind: she doesn't care if you are atheist or not, she just wants to be kind to all. She's a survivor of a LOT of abuse and trauma and loves people. See her website theliontriumphs.com if you really are struggling and need a friend

At least you are being honest with yourself.

I've been dealing with those feelings as well when I was younger. I was raised Christian, dropped religion when in my teens and felt empty afterwards.
There is something in us, a force pushing us towards spirituality. Our spirit wants to be set free.

I'm buried in Gnostic literature atm and enjoying the ride

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dont go there its a virus.
wtf why would you post that?

stop feeling like shit about it

if you still feel like shit about it: realize that you have the same right to claim communion with god as anyone. you can have your own god and still think the church is shit

the irony in gnosticism is that the gpspels say the Father is unknowable, so it ends up being agnostic.

gnosticism and agnosticism ends up being the same thing, which is pretty cute

Your whole life you probably felt like there was something higher than you, something above nature that understood your consciousness. Just keep believing in that.

You're right in a way but the major difference is the so called "experience of gnosis" the Gnostics emphasize so much. It is a form of pure KNOWING by experiencing it, it's a sort of purely spiritual experience.
I had a few and that's why the gnostic teachings and symbolism resonates with me.

Agnostics claim there is no mean by which you can contact this "higher reality"

don't you have better things to do than to start yet another atheist-bashing thread? I swear you guys are all insane. go hate on racists if you need the support of likeminded idiots.

For what? You feel like shit cos your an atheist? I am so fucking confused right now?

The godhead cannot know itself. A knife cannot cut itself. But there are things to "directly experience".

I fucking hate this meme. Gnostic texts is fine but if you are claiming that the demiurge contaminated Christianity and its texts that same logic applies to gnostic texts you read on some fucking blog.

Convert into christianity and go from door to door and tell everyone about Jesus.
It's your only way to redeem yourself.

What's the point in acquiring knowledge if it never ends?

>I'm looking for real evidence.
fuckin atheists when will they learn

you should. You will boil in the lake of eternal fire.
SLAVA JESU CHRISTU

It is experiencing itself through its lower emanations. We are in a way the godhead experiencing itself, bringing these experiences back to the totality of existence to which we are all destined. But maybe this time we are to experience fullness in a conscious way unlike the primordial unconscious unity we all stem from.

In the end there is unity, and in truth thats all theres ever been. The appearance of disunity is only the godhead getting to know itself better.

the greeks seemed to favor knowledge, while the hebrews favored.

I have also had a few, mountains appear to be moving like god is playing a game with me each time i read or mention "when a man of faith tells a mountain to cast itself in the ocean, it will get up, and fling itself into the ocean" i see mountains move in variable patterns. I've seen the aether, and for some reason I'm incredibly drawn to drinking snake venom and cyanide (mark 16:18) and performing acts of faith based on this verse.

Get into some sort of meme religion like krisna, shinto-buddhism, neopaganism, space lizards, or some mega-obscure african tribal shit. Or just invent your own beliefs.

Not like it actually matters, so if you want to feel better, then you might as well have fun while doing so.

Also
>being atheist
>on the board of Kek
You are shrameful dispray user.

hebrews favored experience* so putting this together is what gnosticism is about

I have thought of a comparison for you user. Would you rather be regarded as superstitious, or suspicious? Choose wisely, xx

Atheist here, I faced the same problem as you. When I was a teenager I was near-suicidally depressed because I was a commy atheist nihilist with nothing to live for. I was morbidly obese and spent my days playing video games and jerking off.

This image is a meme but it's surprisingly accurate. I found truth in ideology and choosing to stand for something and believe in something. After years I've arrived at a point where the purpose of my life is clear: to secure the future for humanity along with others who have the same goal.

If I sound edgy or larpy all I can say is it works for me. I'm recovering from my degenerate lifestyle slowly day by day. Stand for something and work to become the best you.

>and I feel lik shit for it
Stop being a faggot. There is no (logical) reason to feel bad about being an atheist. If you were smart, you'd know that already. The fact is, there is no reason to believe in magic. People who say if you are an atheist, you are also x,y, and z, are just applying fallacious reasoning in an attempt to cow you into submission. Even if the entire weight of the world is on you, if you bend to a fallacy, you're weak.

The Hebrews seem to favor "listening to Gods voice" which is like you said more experience based. But also, some initiated Greeks have been participating in the Eleusian mysteries, they have been experiencing these "higher states of mind" which might offer deeper insights. Needless to say, Bible is full of such instances but no one seems to care much.

>I'm incredibly drawn to drinking snake venom and cyanide
What are the insights? Have you gained anything?

My experiences are usually more vision based. I write them down, think about the elements, read about it and sometimes a realization strikes me hard.

it lend me to hindu schools of thought. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samudra_manthan

i believe this bible verse to be a reference to the story linked above. I haven't tried it, but king cobras are only $500 dollars on the internet, and i can totally own one in my state as long as i get a license, so I'll be getting one as soon as i figure out the logistics of feeding it quite regularly.

I tend to think about the 4 dimensional cross I linked, and try to think about the way god experiences the perspective of others.

my experiences are more of callings, i feel incredibly compelled to walk outside barefoot and just walk in what ever direction leads outside my city, but only after finishing mending my body.

the experience that led me to seeing the aether involved a surgical procedure called a nuss procedure, where i basically crucified myself and had a metal rod shoved into my chest. my body was crippled and broken, and the father had mercy on me.

and my insights have mostly been biblical, something like the way ancient people figured the names of stars is that they asked them for their names, and there's a psalm that I never read that says that god calls each of the stars by their given name. I find myself to be channeling scripture, like a donkey that is being used to preach.

I don't know. my life is getting a little weird. Christ told me he would give me thoughts that occur to no other man, and I believe him.

Sort of an expert here.
>nitiated Greeks have been participating in the Eleusian mysteries
Yes the common Jew know knothing of the sort
The elite Jew, what used to be the kohanim knew very well and wished to keep all knowledge to themselves out of greed and thinking no one would find out eventually, starting the racket most commonly identified today as "religion". I'm part Jew you can trust me that is the truth for I despise Judaism and my own kin

If there is no reason to believe in magic then dont believe in evolution or the.big bang fairy tales.

Fucking leaf

This is the issue with athiests, they constantly ask for proof about something that self proclaims a basis in faith. Why is it our responsibility to prove something to you, when we have explicitly stated that we don't use proof as a foundation for our beliefs?

But muh teapot.

Watch these two friend, you won't be an atheist any more. Promise.

youtube.com/watch?v=PYSmV2FlHDw

youtube.com/watch?v=mtBz1roiQR8

Have a nice day, dues vult.

satanism is a great alternative to atheism
(metaphor not literal)

>we don't use proof as a foundation for our beliefs
This sums up this board very nicely.

Atheism is the ultimate red-pill. Most people would rather call themselves agnostic though, due to the 0.00000001% chance god actually exists and the stigma against atheists.

On what do you base your percentage?

Take some Dmt be enriched by god

The fact that you can't actually disprove it.

>I only have those eight cuckold porn videos saved on my computer to redpill the sheeple
>Me and my bruders watched Nickelodeon for 14 hours to uncover a cuckold conspiracy
>did that picture of a black dick trigger you? here is 12 more!
Hahahahahahahahahah underrated as fuck.

At the very least you are not praying to any Curse God. That's a good place to be man, stop tripping.

Keep calm and remove abrahamics from premises.

God used to exist but not anymore. I took the fucker out.

So be a fucking atheist and shut the fuck up about it?

That is true.

Well.
It is not time to try to corrupt religion so shut up about it

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except it should be a jew with a paper mask of that hitler kid

Look I ain't saying you to follow anything. I were like ya, still am. I barely give a fuck about anything. See, I once read the Bible despite being Hindu. I ain'ta fucking pajeet.
I'll green text it
>Be me
>18/5 beta male / engg student
>Smoke weed everyday, get fat, lethargic, fap boi
>Dropped, full on mental torture
>Most kind religious friend gift Bible
>Read Bible, begin to pray. (I gave up on idol worship and stopped thinking about Satans existence)
>Start believing I Jesus
>Life changes, no weed, alcohol, smokes. Only study gym, meditation, metaphysicis study , drawing
>Get a gf when rejoin clg
>Gonna do ms in Australia now. Hopefully they won't kill me, because I pray for it
Prayer and belief is a strong tool OP. Having a hand over your head, having a guy to confess at the end of the day is better. Living without purpose is shit. Having nobody to rely when your mum's corpse is lowered in grave is shit.
Give it a shot OP. Once in ya life.

I have to admit, possible existence of God scares me shitless. With no God, you can't fail at life. No matter how you perform in your life, void awaits you in the end no matter who you are. I would have nothing to worry about.

Now if God exists, I will have to live every day in fear that what I'm doing is not enough, or not right. Is my devotion enough to avoid hell? How can I ever be sure I'm living my life the right way? Am I even worshiping the right god? The scariest thing is that there's no inherent feedback system that tells you if you're doing good in the eyes of God. You just have to trust, even though there is nothing to base that trust on.

I try to be a good Christian and pretend I believe in Jesus, but at the same time I also fucking hope God doesn't exist.