Communism general

Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.

What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.

>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."

>To acheive such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:

marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is reccomended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/

marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/

marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm

marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/

marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

Other urls found in this thread:

youtube.com/watch?v=6S83eAYxdZo
mises.org/library/end-socialism-and-calculation-debate-revisited
reason.com/archives/2005/01/21/the-man-who-told-the-truth
twitter.com/SFWRedditImages

Why the fuck are you in Italy?
Tell me now Commie scum or else get spammed with memes

Reminder to punch commies in the face.

Wasnt Marx a complete leech his entire life that constantly asked for money from people he conned into thinking he was friends with?

What?

youtube.com/watch?v=6S83eAYxdZo

Friendly reminder to report any or all communist activities, if you don't you will be culturally enriched with traps with Stalin staches. Disgusting.

Communists are everywhere

We have been taught through various literature that Communism and Fascism are in method the same, I understand not why Sup Forums is so quick to accept fascism but shun communism

A famine or few never hurt the strong, darwinism is the same conclusion reached

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How do you know whether a produced good is worth its costs or not in a communist society?

Price.

>take back the means of production
>by giving it to the state
How do commietards get meme'd on so hard?

A communist economic system would be characterized by advanced productive technology that enables material abundance, which in turn would enable the free distribution of most or all economic output and the holding of the means of producing this output in common. In this respect communism is differentiated from socialism, which, out of economic necessity, restricts access to articles of consumption and services based on one's contribution.

The fully developed communist economic system is postulated to develop from a preceding socialist system. Marx held the view that socialism—a system based on social ownership of the means of production—would enable progress toward the development of fully developed communism by further advancing productive technology. Under socialism, with its increasing levels of automation, an increasing proportion of goods would be distributed freely.

Doesn't work

10/10 times communism will fail.

Every. Single. Time.

>not an argument

I'm not sure if this is legit or not, but on the off chance it is;

What are your thoughts on AntiFa? Do you agree with them and their methods?

What does the ideal communist society look like to you?

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I truly don't understand how it's the current year and people still fall for the communism meme.

Probably because after 250 years capitalism still hasn't solved its inherent problems.

>the state of modern communism

>we hate the capitalist 1% so much
>lets transfer power to the Jewish political 1% instead
Changing capitalism for Talmudic Judaisim: the Government Edition is the definition of meme'd on

>DA JOOS
I truly don't understand how it's the current year and people still fall for the nazism meme.

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Kill yourself commie

>implying you have to be a national socialist to see the blatant evidence that a small group exerts an inordinate amount of influence compared to its population size
>implying it was a """Russian""" revolution and not a hostile takeover by Judeo-Bolsheviks

Probably like 4 people with VPNs from cripplechan leftypol spewing this pasta
Socialism is literally an unworkable economic system.
Somehow I don't think you'll be able to do what every single Commie fuckwit hasn't been able to do in nearly a century and refute this and there's a 100% chance if you even attempt to you'll just post an argument for market socialism (a concession to the calculation problem itself) which even then never addressed the calculation problem.

mises.org/library/end-socialism-and-calculation-debate-revisited

Yes, I'm not anarcho-communism I believe in the necessity of a socialist state before the stateless society but they are useful to raise class consciousness.

And yet just in the last 30 years over 2 billion people have been lifted out of objective poverty as the entire world's standard of living is constantly increasing and dramatically increasing the more capitalistic a region is.
Systems of man are not perfect because man isn't perfect and as systems go socialism/communism have flagrantly lost this competition.
At least socialist like link related are honest about this but justify their system with blatant anti humanist sentiments

reason.com/archives/2005/01/21/the-man-who-told-the-truth

>objective poverty
This is not a real thing.

You mean absolute poverty.

And, if you look at the figures, the vast, overwhelming bulk of that figure is in China.

The, ahem,
"People's Republic of China."

The same country ruled by the
"Communist Party of China."

QQ more, fagit.

>This is not a real thing.
>You mean absolute poverty.
Nit picking
> And, if you look at the figures, the vast, overwhelming bulk of that figure is in China.
Yes the same China that threw away centralized planning and opened up to globalized capitalistic trade with a much more fascist regime then socialist.
Never mind the millions upon millions that starved to death under their centralized planning system.

And no the vast majority isn't even in China the majority is spread out throughout the world.

>Nit picking
Correct terminology ensures correct thoughts. If your language is slovenly your argument will also be slovenly.

>Yes the same China that threw away centralized planning and opened up to globalized capitalistic trade with a much more fascist regime then socialist.
Are... are you saying...

it's...

"NOT REAL COMMUNISM?"

>the vast majority isn't even in China the majority is spread out throughout the world
Where are you getting these figures from?

>The spanish gommiefag will shill again