How does the rest of the world view the founding fathers?

How does the rest of the world view the founding fathers?

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The founding fathers were Satanic and rejected their God to replace Him with the worship of themselves.

cunts

Very Inspirational and intelligent.

However some of their ideas have become outdated such as every American has a right to bear arms, I don't think they foresighted every citizen being able to buy a fully automatic assault rifle with round drum magazines

Stop it.

>rest of the world

Regardless, explain.

Hey dumb shit, they also didn't envision every retard like you being able to hop online and exercise "free speech" effortlessly to millions of people.

The way americans revere their past is wholly unhealthy. The founding fathers were horribly flawed and the declaration of independence is as good a guide on how to govern a country as the gospel of the flying spaghetti monster. You are severely overcompensating for being one of the youngest first world democracies by idolizing these fashion disasters.

not the brightest of sparks, but id rate then 3/10

Only wanted white citizens, racist. Women couldn't vote, sexist. Most were Christians, islamaphobic. They would occasionally use pronouns, transphobic.

They're also the youngest superpower.

But they didn't earn or fight for my free speech so therefore that is irrelevant

Well, in effect, they did. The French Revolution gave rise to republicanism, which was precipitated and inspired by the American war for Independence.

>The way americans revere their past is wholly unhealthy.
Why

>The founding fathers were horribly flawed and the declaration of independence is as good a guide on how to govern a country as the gospel of the flying spaghetti monster.
Why

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We didn't get our independence till 1921, we fought the British for our independence before America was even discovered not to mention its revolution.

Extremely based.

Always wondered why Americans didn't defend their legacy from jews, and allowed jews to corrupt every aspect of your government.

faggots

I was only saying that without republican ideals fanning the flames of nationalism Ireland would probably still be a part of the UK.

China hasn't yet demonstrated its so-called status as a superpower and I doubt it ever will, because they can't.

Like all great men, they had the best of intentions but the end result of their actions was not desirable. They were influenced by the ideals of the French revolution, which carried within them the seed of the very decadence that we see today in the modern world. What we need, is Nietzsche's "re-evaluation of all values", we need to step back and look at what really make societies great, because it's certainly not "equality" and "human rights", we've seen the results of those ideas.

>They were influenced by the ideals of the French revolution

at least we're better at getting independence from britain, faggot.

Why: People in power abuse the patriotism of the common pleb for their own selfish gains. It makes you blind to your own flaws.

Why2: You can not govern a modern country if you follow it to the letter. That is why.

Should've specified the "we the people" part a bit more.

Well don't just post a funny reaction image please, if you got criticism lets hear it

They did defiantly have an effect on republicanism and nationalism, hence why I called them inspirational.
Biggest effect was on France

No one cares. In education they're mentioned, but the focus in that period is on France and our own constitution.
American worship of them is viewed as strange and excessive by most.

>They were influenced by the ideals of the French revolution

The French Revolution happened after the American one, you're thinking of the Enlightenment

The American war for Independence happened before the French Revolution, you ass.

If anything that fact would only harden their will to put it in.

People act like there werent repeating rifles in the time of the founders.

>the french revolution happened decades later

Amazing, accomplished businessmen, lawyers and soldiers AND they could see through time. New found respect for the founders

They were brilliant men and all had different political views. But they also agreed on basic democratic principles. Let the people decide the fate of a nation.
They took French and Roman politics, with a hint of Plato and mashed them together.
But at the end of the day they didn't envision the internet, or fully automatic weapons.

We dont follow the Declaration of Independence to the letter though. Its a set of principles

Do you mean the Constitution? Because this is a totally different document.

True, though I doubt we will ever see anything even in the same vein as what the Founding Fathers managed to achieve.

It's a shame Kennedy/LBJ got in the way in the end, and undid all their efforts.

"One nation under God..."
Try harder

>better at independence
You had a huge backing of independence because your country wasn't plagued with British like Ireland was and a huge amount of land able to produce weapons compared to Ireland who was poor and very small

France had to help you get your independence, Ireland had nobody but it's own citizens.

America is thousands of kilometres away from Britain, Ireland is less than a day boat which meant that Britain was able to maximise manpower and it's full military Arsenal against any uprisings not to mention having Britain having 100,000 British troops stationed in Ireland around the clock

>American worship of them is viewed as strange and excessive by most.

It's called being a nationalist and proud of your history

>Why: People in power abuse the patriotism of the common pleb for their own selfish gains. It makes you blind to your own flaws.
This is every country.

>Why2: You can not govern a modern country if you follow it to the letter. That is why.
The solution is in the fundamentals. We were founded as a federation of independent states, with each state having the authority to govern as it sees fit. People seem to have forgotten this. Also, look up jury nullification.

No one really cares m8, It's not they were Gandhi or anything.

>But at the end of the day they didn't envision the internet, or fully automatic weapons
STOP CRITICIZING THE SECOND AMENDMENT IT'S NOT A FUCKING PROBLEM YOU THIRD WORLD EUROPOORS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Meh.

George Washington could beat up Gandhi faggot

The founding of America is not part of the german school systen, so should you ever ask a german ...

Derp.

fuck thomas jefferson

> added in the 1940s

Slave owners who died in their 40s. They weren't geniuses.

>your country wasn't plagued with British

Are you off the potatoes again? The US was literally ALL British. Did you mean redcoats? They were there too, they were pretty much the police force.

Good idealists

It's why we're number 1. Bunch of haters who cry that they didn't get a constitution as good as ours.

>what do you get when a nigger defending cuck and a socialist team up?
The Pledge of Allegiance, as it exists in its current form, was originally composed in August 1892 by Francis Bellamy (1855–1931), who was a Baptist minister, a Christian socialist,[10][11] and the cousin of socialist utopian novelist Edward Bellamy (1850–1898). However, there existed a previous version created by Colonel George Balch, a veteran of the Civil War who went on to become auditor of the New York Board of Education. Balch's pledge, which existed parallel to the Bellamy version until the 1923 National Flag Conference, read:
“ We give our heads and hearts to God and our country; one country, one language, one flag!

Kek

You don't even own a slave, faggot.

>We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

I think this is total backwards garbage, that got us into the position where we are today.

Silly liberal radicals who think they can stsnd up to King George

You mean FDR?

Woodrow Wilson, Harry Truman, FDR, LBJ and Carter were the problem. Kennedy was and is widely popular and for good reason. I mean to be fair he didnt have much time to fuck up, but he was a good president and probably would have continued to be so.

You just mad he swindled louisiana purchase from your asses

British Loyalists in Ireland. They are die hard British hence why Ireland is still under British occupation and why the troubles happened
>pic related is a loyalist March held 6 months of the year

They are only half the population of Northern Ireland now but back in the day they were all around Ireland

Good guys.

Gandhi ain't shit.
Washington, Franklin, and Jefferson are all more important than him.

I was referring to the 1965 Immigration Act and the civil rights movement.

Don't know much about Kennedy. Why was he so loved?

Not really

"all people are entitled to an equal chance to succeed and stand fairly before the law" is not the same as "everyone is the same and deserves the same stuff"

Youre thinking of France. Our founding fathers didnt imagine everyone deserved the same or even similar outcomes. Merely that god imbues us all with rights and we deserve to exercise those rights without interference from the government. Whats wrong with that?

>ctrl+f "peaceful transition of power to opposing political parties every few years"
>0 results

Probably the most important thing they did that affected the rest of the world

Political analysts agree with me, nigger.

youtu.be/UiWY0iRLV94?t=1056

lol

Shit man, you got me.

people outside the usa pretend they dont know who're the founding fathers.
We only hear about french revolution, which come after and obviously was flawed and shit

I don't think God gave you any rights at all... I think you have a right to everything in this world that you may claim by force, and that governments exist solely to constrict your rights, NOT to secure them, in order to prevent you from killing a bunch of people and taking their stuff. Fkn Murricans i swear.

They're talking about citizen rights.
Go prep your bull sven

>all these Europlebs that don't understand the importance of the 2nd amendment
This is why your governments walk all over you.

i never saw a "Right" in my life. Worst spook ever concieved. I follow laws because i don't want to be punished, and that's it. There's no such a thing as a "right".

Very patriotic, good speaker.

Started the space program. He was an admirable guy too. Every video recording youll ever see of him, hes either doped out of his mind or in excruciating pain. He was considered a hero from his time in the navy, injured his back in a crash in the pacific and yet still swam some of his shipmates to a nearby island holding their life jackets by his teeth. Chronic back pain for the rest of his life.

Back in the 60's the congress was still in charge of laws lul.

Id strongly recommend his Inaugural speech and his speech at Rice Texas about the announcement of the space project. Both very good.

youtube.com/watch?v=ouRbkBAOGEw

His brother was also wildly popular. They were patriotic, intelligent, driven and honest.

Jefferson and Franklin wanted the seal of the US to be Moses opposing Pharaoh

Dude, you don't even know how wrong you are. Everything about the founding of the United States was fundamentally Christian.

>that all men are created equal
>all men
>citizens
Why not just say "citizens" instead of "all men" then?

Hows that working out for you cucklord supreme?

Absolutely fucking based to the highest degree. There is no other group of men in all of history that I respect more

>This is why your governments walk all over you.
Still waiting on that armed revolution because of that whole spy thingy, how's that coming along?

You have a baby understanding of history

"all men are created equal" means that no man is sovereign to another because our value comes from intrinsically being a man qua man that our natural rights are equal rights

i equally have a right to life as you do, you are not my king and im not yours

they did not intend it to mean anything about genetics or skill or economic status or anything like that

you have to understand our founding fathers were roleplayers

they were angloboos roleplaying as romanboos roleplaying as hellenboos roleplaying as egyptianboos/semiticboos

he's retarded

they're referring to the natural law

Why isn't it?
Why do the majority of the world think guns are bad and you Amerifats think they're so great?

self-defense is bad?

Shut the fuck up dalit,you either don't how big of an asshole gandhi was,he was okay with Muslims killing all Hindus and said all Hindus should accept death from Islam.

Founding fathers were instead intellegent people,they handed out weapon rights,they prevented British from enslaving the america.

I would have been more than happy if someone like the founding forefathers would have shooed away islam and hence preventing us from British.

But Instead we got a glamorized old fucking pedophile leftist gandhi who made a window for the Britishers to escape with the resources.

If you think that Gandhi made us independent then you are fucking worse than god forgive my words a leaf,Hitler fought with British Empire and broken the machine,the Empire was not strong enough to fund the machine and there were already revolts in India and burning of British empoyees home,it was the singal of BTFO.

What would it felt like to the churchill if every raged 400 millions would have killed all the minority british? that's why they planted Gandhi to ease up the exchange,and form Pakistan so the current USA war machine would find more Islamic terrorist.

KYS dalit nigger.

You mispelled "only".

Swedish education

>"all men are created equal" means that no man is sovereign to another because our value comes from intrinsically being a man qua man that our natural rights are equal rights

Got any proof for this crazy statement?

Why does it mean that? Why should i trust your interpretation? The document says "all men are created equal"... They are not, it is a lie. The "self-evident truth" is a great lie. On the contrary, all men are created uniquely and endowed with un-equal characteristics in their DNA, restricted solely to that individual. All men are created with qualities absent in every other individual in existence, and no two men are equal.

wastemen -- should have stayed with the empire and gained independence through discourse

Because we can.

Instead of resorting to violence perhaps dig a little deeper, why do you need to a gun for self defense?

Because the American government has yet to butcher without provocation vast swathes of its own citizens.

Also because we are the militia, and we are patriotic about our duty to defend this nation. Even if the government doesnt want us to. We are not subservient to our government, they are subservient to us.

If someone told you not to work, that you in fact shouldnt work, its dangerous, you could hurt someone else or get hurt, hell work for you, would you simply layabout all day and let him do so?

Traitors
And this

Pretty great, while most of their ideas weren't future proof, they did it right for their time.
Though ofc leftist will only think about "muh slavery"

Because they rest of the world obviously doesn't believe in equality and liberty. The gun is one of the most useful equalizers we have.

here we go...

Kennedy wanted to lift immigration quotas

Based.

They inspired the founding fathers of my own country, who were pretty based too. The second paragraph of our constitution explicitly forbids jews from entering the kingdom, though it was later removed.

1. From where comes your right to life? Where is your "right to life", do you have written proof of it, or any other proof?
2. Your government is your "king" in a way, but you are not the king of your government.

This is why you will ALWAYS be England's bitch.

It's just not something Canadians will be able to understand.

It's not about causing violence it's about ending it.

Same way i view most other Americans, egoistic morons

It's self evident
The constitution is future proof through amendments

What are you suggesting, leaf?
>Without guns there would be no violence
Or
>Without violence there would be no need for guns?

Wow, why should we care about rulers of shit-tier level country, cuz murrica was shit-tier till 1830-40`s

>Ad populum
Not an argument, rest of the world thinks we should take in refugees too so they can fuck off.

2nd amendment is where it is for a reason. The last defense against tyranny by the government always has and always will be the people. Nobody else is going to do it. That is why guns are so important to Americans and really any democracy that doesn't want to turn into a police state in 100 years.

>Wah muh colony

Worst empire in history.