SERIOUSLY HOW HARD WOULD IT BE TO FUCK UP NORTH KOREA?>??

These savage gooks barely have electricity just bomb their shit at night and kill all their top dogs.? Why haven't we done this?

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china would have some objection, at least in the past

nowadays they'd give us the go ahead to nuke/invade them if we left a DMZ between Unified Korea and China

yea you might be right, and as long as the 20 millions starving NK dont pour straight into china, and that would be the hard part

With no nukes?
Might take 1 week going upwards to one month.
They have a pretty decent military.

if china has a problem with us fucking up a country that is constantly talking shit china can sit the fuck down too. I hope all they have a flood of radical NK that don't know how to think. desu they will probably be turned into to slaves or turn to prostitution. i really don't care. why can't they grow any of their own food are they that stupid?

China has a higher bombing priority. Rice krispies nao.

great pic OP

yea exactly, China's concern with N. Korea is the humanitarian crisis that would naturally bleed into China. For decades China has tolerated North Korea as something like a fuck up little brother, or a retarded pit bull on a chain, but the past decade or so N. Korea hasn't told China about their aggressive anti-US actions and it pisses off the community party in China when NK does missile tests like this. They're literally worse than useless, they are a liability, and for this perhaps China will eventually tolerate a unified Korea. Perhaps.

South Korea is pretty fucked up right now (unstable government). I really wish North Korea would start shit first so we could just come in and fuck shit up.

Their government may be unstable at the leadership level because of scandals, but as you know politicians don't actually do the work. Are the civil servants of south korea fucked up as well? I know they rely on us for our military, more so than Japan. Also think about all those massively wealthy South Korean companies, surely they aren't going to let South Korea become destabilized, or at least they should try to prevent it, I would hope.

Airdrop food on them and its game over

North Korea is just a proxy for China

why would you wanna fuck up best korea?

south korea is the degenerate one with that weird cult that runs the country

someone post that screencap of the user talking about how kim il-sung knew about the cult and wanted to purge it but then murrica stepped in and stopped it.

I refuse to believe all that stuff we're told about North Korea.

Kim Il Sung looks, sounds, and moves just like my neighbor who knocks on my door every month or so and gives me huge plate of food he cooked. He makes the best egg rolls you've ever had in your life. I can tell Kim Il Sung was the nicest guy.

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It would be a month. The bloodiest month in human history. But still only a month

Seoul would be fucked. North Korea has hundreds of artillery placements ready to shell them into dust. Seoul would need to be totally sacrificed with 100000s dead

the fact that they're such a small isolated nation yet they were able to somehow build nukes and soon icbm's, says otherwise

Because it would be pointless. North Korea is never going to actually attack anyone, and if they get toppled there will be millions of brainwashed people with no skills flooding into South Korea and the rest of the world.

We should bait Trump into making a fat joke about kim on Twitter. He'd totally do it

Yes goy. Bomb evil korea. They have a central bank run by the jews.

You're assuming North Korea has a month's worth of food just lying around.

Maybe a month of mowing down starving refugees at the border, but no real fighting is necessary after the first day or so.

Seoul's gonna get hit hard though, no getting around that one.

Because of China.

I'm ok with this.

As if we care how many Korean would die because of the war. The US has never cared. Allies have never cared. They just want to stop spreading of communism in East Aisa.

Bullshit. One highly coordinated strike with the amount of precision arms we have would wipe out 70% of them. Theyd never see it coming.

Not to mention all of the guns that probably dont even work to begin with.

Kill North Korea? Are you some retarded autistic faggot or something?

1. They don't race mix and pour into our countries.
2. They kill traitors, killing off some old fat corrupted faggot gives the newblood oppourtunies.
3. They have cool sense of attire, aesthetic's and seem pretty well grounded.
4. They hate liberal faggots like the sicko-south gooks who are run by a goddamned cult.
5. Like all asians they have good food, I'm guessing.
6. They have a badass, even if smallish, army. Shit, they'd conquer Canada within a week.

t. National Socialist

FYI, btw, while the US has some fancy new military toys, a couple dozen of them won't do much in effect. FFS, we should be allies with them, not their enemy. South Korea on the other hand......look, I'm from Canada, and the SK's that come here are always whiny, annoying, stupid faggots with their heads rammed firmly up their asses. The NK's are calm, well mannered and collected in comparison, far better to deal with.

>These savage gooks barely have electricity just bomb their shit at night and kill all their top dogs.? Why haven't we done this?

They have hundreds or thousands of artillery pieces well within range of and aimed at Seoul. They could start shelling a metropolis as soon as the attacks start. The shelling of a modern city that size is unprecedented. It would be a catastrophe.

North Korea isn't even worth the effort.

1/3 of their buildings don't even have electricity.
Their 'special forces' soldiers train by punching trees until their hands bleed and then dip them in salt to "toughen them"
Their missiles can't make it any further than 50 miles and nosedives straight into the ocean
Their military is a scrambled and mismanaged joke

No one takes N Korea seriously, excluding the brainwashed people.

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Unsure of China's reaction to the problem. You want to see a real refugee crisis not this fake import every sandnigger in north Africa one.

No one wants to deal with these people. Majority of them have never even used a computer. How do you get people up to speed in the modern world so far behind?

There will be time when it all ends either through a revolution or China themselves secretly tell us to do something about it.

Pretty much this. Any action taken against NK and Seoul would be obliterated.

They're military equipment is obsolete as shit, but a bomb is still a bomb and they have a veritable fuckton of them pointed at Seoul.

As far as I know, NO ONE really wants North Korea to dissapear
>Russkies will get a fuckton of refugees, and might catch some crossfire
>China, apart from getting refugees or deserters, really likes the 'North Korea' card to use on the US every now and then (i.e. You need me to keep this idiot in check)
>Japan fears the economic power of a unified Korea, think that South Korea really gives the japs a run for their money, now multiply that. They don't want that, and I'm not mentioning the territorial disputes for a few islands
>The US use the 'threat' excuse to mantain their military in the region. No NK, what reasonable excuse do they have to keep their forces there? Not mentioning those troops are really close to China, and the US likes to do shows of force there. Also with troops there the US 'protect' it's interests in the region and their allies.
>South Korea would be the most impacted, fighting on their own land, heavy cassualties and they would have to pay for EVERYTHING, including the reconstruction after the war.
And if NK has the nuclear capacity they say they have, no one really would like getting bombed, even if they win in the end.

the fact that america had trouble dealing with afghanistan and iraq means that they'll have way more trouble dealing with nk

>retarded pit bull on a chain
lol

They are becoming more of a liability for China.

USA is building missile shield bubble that extends into China, and they can blame NK for it.

Because of NK, USA can move on the chessboard against China and continue to block them in militarily.

It gives USA excuse to host tens of thousands of troops within reaction distance of Chinese territory.

The "buffer" it gives from having US troops stationed right on their actual border is kinda stupid considering they can deploy missile shields, air assets and rotate bomber forces just because of their "proxy".

Pic relate, Trumps face when he nukes Pyongyang after they attack Seoul.

So what exactly happens with the DMZ after North Korea goes down?

There's hundreds of thousands of land mines there. Who is cleaning that shit up?

2 Weeks. We know where most of their Mil bases are and where Kim's Palaces are. Most of their missile launchers and armor is old CN and RU junk from the 70's and 80's. Easy match for US airpower. The PROBLEM is DPRK would likely mount a massive assault against South Korea probably roll tanks across the DMZ into Seoul and they would bear the brunt of whatever crap DPRK would dish out in reprisals.

No one I think.

Here, the last war we had was in the 19th century, and we put some more mines that still are active, every now and then someone blows up for walking where they souldn't.
You know clearing mines is costly, hard to do and REALLY dangerous. But you could use the SJW and feminists to do it, 2 birds 1 stone

Assuming nobody backs them up, which is highly unlikely, 7-10 business days.

>Call evacuation
>Then do what OP said

You loose some buildings but also gain 100% more territory. Sounds good to me.

Whoever loses the war. There will be millions of refugees looking for jobs.

Not at all. South Korea is expecting a zerg rush at the start of the war, because North Korea has to. They only have so much fuel, ammunition and food. They absolutely cannot win a sustained war. That's why South Korea has a tank wall across the entire country, rigged with explosives at passage points to collapse and delay tank rush. Also, because of S. Korean geography, there are only so many places they can moved armored columns. You can bet they will find A-10s patrolling those plains and ATGM's in the valleys where they pass.

>2 weeks
>4 days
>a month
>227 hours
can you tards shutup. none of you know how long it would take. fucking iraq took years for america to invade and nk is militarily way more powerful than those middle east shitholes

Kek has never blessed military action against the Norks. Fight them at your peril, OP.

Because Rich Folk from all nations would be upset that North Korean slaves wouldnt be working for free over in Russia anymore. If North Koren slaves were not being used for free labor USA would of Hiroshima'd North Korea along time ago.

The problem with North Korea is not taking out the government, it's about who's going to pay for the aftermath of the shitshow and feeding the population and rebuilding etc.

Also, if China is against it, then it's easy for them to cause massive problems in any plan.

Kek will Fat Jong Un to die.

The problem isn't knocking them over. It's cleaning up the mess afterwards.

All this shit is correct. China also wants a buffer state between it and SK.

SK looked at how expensive reunification in Germany was, and isn't sure it can handle that shit.

If it came down to it, the US could disrupt NK's command and control structure with air and cruise missiles alone. The problems are that SK would lose two thirds of Seoul, and the massive humanitarian crisis afterwards.

In an all out war with NK we could win in a matter of weeks. The problem is we don't fight all out wars anymore. We fight PC wars.

NK had to drop the height limit to join the army to 1,30m, they're malnourished, badly equiped and with heavily outdated weapons. The only thing going for them is the numbers and discipline.
Most likely there could be a lot of suicide attacks since it would be the only thing they could do to cause some real harm.
Anyway, the 'war' will be short, the insurgency on the other hand will be MUCH longer, that until they get a fuckton of food.

>All this shit is correct. China also wants a buffer state between it and SK.
>SK looked at how expensive reunification in Germany was, and isn't sure it can handle that shit.
Forgot to mention that. Thanks for reminding me.

>South Korea is expecting a zerg rush at the start of the war
Now I need to play some SC, thanks a lot.
You still speak the truth.

I insist, the war itself won't me that long, Iraq took you a few months AT MOST I think. And that doing everything badly. The insurgency was what took so long on Iraq. There could be some on NK, but not that much until a fuckton of fresh food gets into the country. The people might hate the invaders, but in the end they like more a hot meal.

This, desu.

We should instead attempt to normalize relations with them. Conduct trade, to help with their food shortages, and alleviate the suffering of their people.

>build nukes
They were gifted nukes by the Chinks. Before, they thought of Best Korea as a buffer state between Worst Korea and the US (and allies). Giving Best Korea nukes (and some scraps), so they get nuked first, was China's foreign policy on Best Korea.

Just like how China was Soviet Russia's buffer state on the Asian front. Chinks were never smart to develop their own nuke.
>Yes, Russia gave the Chinks nukes
>After acquiring the tech, they just mass-produced it
>Then again, nukes were Western - Jews "gifted"/stole and gave the Soviet commies nukes because they thought commienizum will rule the world. Of course, the Jews were wrong

Nowadays, Best Korea is more trouble than they're worth.

that's all just conjecture based on memes. besides, america would be put in a situation that it hasn't dealt with before if it decided to invade an actual nuclear-capable nation

>They were gifted nukes by the Chinks
didn't happen

You actually think NK would stand a chance in hell if we indiscriminately bombed everyone and everything within their borders? Really?

Because at the moment, they're better than south Korea.
This isn't worth doing until south Korea isn't literally controlled by a feminist cult anymore.

wars aren't fought by just dropping bombs everywhere

No? Let's ask Japan about that...

War is always a wildcard. A tricky question. How nuclear capable is NK, really?

Do they actually have a nuke with a delivery system that they can launch?

And how good is the US's anti missile systems?

I'd bet that their current effective nuke capability is more like piles of radioactive waste in a truck. But I really could be wrong here.

What is not conjecture is that SK's capital is within arty range of north korea.

>wars aren't fought by just dropping bombs everywhere

NK is struggling with starvation, and has severe infrastructure problems with industry and petroleum as it is, without warfighting.


No. It's how much damage do they do to South Korea or maybe even Japan before they die. And what China and Russia's reactions are.

there's no situation where america could freely just nuke nk without facing severe backlash both domestic and international. internal political wars, civil protests, trade embargos, nk retaliates with nukes on american installations, etc. pre-emptive nuke strikes aren't an option and the situation is different

>why haven't we bombed best korea?
Because if the dear leader ever actually gave an order to attack either the south or any other US occupied area China would bitch slap that nigger and put baby in the corner until he learns to behave. China may back NK ideologically on paper, but money talks and bullshit walks. NK is a drain on chinese resources. In contrast, US buys something like 40% of chinese exports. If war broke out between Best and South Korea China would be forced to take the side of Best Korea for ideological reasons, thus losing that massive trade surplus that is driving their economy. For this reason above all others there are Chinese agents embedded very close to the dear leader and the upper ranks of the military ready to shut that shit down at any moment.

>Dear Leader calls cabinet meeting
>gives the order, time to unify Korea, full scale attack on the South, do it
>dies suddenly mid-sentence, killed by device implanted in his body by Chinese agent / personal physician to dear leader

something like that

Because North Korea is not what you think it is. Any time you see a video of North Korea, all the happy people are described as "paid state actors" — but are they or are they just happy people?

We are discussing ALL. OUT. WAR.

You think we'd give a fuck about what the rest of the world thought? The best they'd do is wag fingers out of fear of being the next target. The USA can be entirely self sufficient if necessary. And we have the military might to do whatever the fuck we want.

Just get China to stop supporting them and the goverment collapses in a week.

>but are they
yes. North Korea is a LITERAL 1984 state. It's a pure Orwellian commie nightmare.

Because North Korea is China's insurance policy.

God damn you dumb libtard should know better.

Any preemptive strike on NK would have to be absolutely massive and very highly coordinated. Otherwise Seoul is going to get hammered with artillery.

Has anyone seen this alleged rocket launch from NK?

>what is a leppo?

China is more of an angry asian man with a poodel on a chain.

no offense but your grasp on war and global politics in general is infantile and unrealistic. i mean if you're talking about some no holds barred all out war where u.n. sanctions and geneva convention policies are thrown out the window you'd be guaranteed to see america collapse pretty quick. its economy, for one, relies on multinational corporations which would all be gutted by sanctions. america would end up third world by the end of whatever it is you're suggesting

Robots, in all likelihood.

underrated and check'd

Typical libtard deflection replying with unrelated questions in a pre-defined manner.

Listen, leaf - we are not a bunch of Canadian cucks down here. If we decide to go ham on someone we're not going to give one iota of fuck about what the international community thinks. We run the UN for fucks sake. Without us it collapses, just like the League Of Nations.

We are THEE military superpower on the planet. What we say goes. End of story. And if we decided to take out NK Dresden style there's not fuck all anyone would do about it because any provocation by anyone else would be seen as an act of war and they'd be the next ones facing our wrath.

There is nothing the world provides to us that we can't provide for ourselves. The only "sanctions" that would get passed would be from 3rd world shitholes that would have little to no effect on us. Clearly you don't understand war-time economies. We've done this twice before and emerged stronger each time.

Now I'm done arguing with a fucking canuck.

Can we rape the North Korean qts when we invade them?

Easy if China didn't get involved but that would never happen. China would probably invade the entire Korean peninsula if they thought we were about to do something about North Korea.

Lets just promise them a few tons of bland rice and a chunk of Manchuria in exchange for helping us invade China

>'b-but rome would never collapse'
your argument is just brainwashed psychobabble and pretty much a hallmark of unchecked fervent nationalism. barely anything you even said about the subject matter is grounded in reality. america isn't some invincible entity that's invulnerable to attack or collusion. the u.n. itself was created for globalism you dunce. it's just that your state worship has led you to believe otherwise

They'll nuke Cali, so it's a win-win.

North Korea has a much larger standing military, so ground troops would probably be fucked. With our air and nuclear capabilities, North Korea stands no chance but then you have China to worry about; there's no way they're letting us anywhere near, hence why North Korea hasn't been fucked with yet.

It might be the worlds first officially corporate run government, if things go the right (or wrong - depends) way.

whats with so many warmongering threads these past months

Not for me. I live in Norcal (the good part, not the shitty part)

Shills milking our autistic idea for their think tanks bro

stay wope fame

Idiot... you inherit millions of starving people with no skills

You tried already and failed

THIS

NK is leverage for China.

NK is a pawn. You dont risk everything for a pawn.

The same reason PROC doesnt just annex Taiwan...

They have an extremely large (albeit ill equipped) army and Seoul is well within range of missile bombardment.

The US would ultimately defeat them, but South Korean and US garrisons stationed near the boarder would take a beating before Pyongyang was a smoldering crater. And that's not even factoring in Chinese interference.

just dont do a ground invasion, everything is rigged with explosives

probably best to starve them further and kill their crops so they dont leach into neighboring countries

Shit would fall in the ocean

North korea was pretty much done for before the chinks decided to zerg rush and

The North Korean regime could be taken out overnight. You'd be fucking up South Korea though, since they'd lose their DMZ slave labor and gain 25 million commie refugees

Trump won't do shit.

>Nuke Pyongyang
No, we're just going to give them the clear blue death rain. Drones are our most effective military option. No need to harm ourselves by nuking North Korea.

>And that's not even factoring in Chinese interference.

Nah, it's like if Russia decided to nuke Florida. Most of us would just shrug and go on with our day.