Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To acheive such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
don't you know if we form one big orgy the Aliens can't harvest our organs! Communism is Logical!
Andrew Torres
Hello. You mentioned in a previous thread that you had negative views of National Bolshevism.
However, would you pragmatically support National Bolshevists if they had a good chance of taking control of a nation due to their communistic economic policies?
Jaxson Campbell
No.
Jacob Parker
Can you elaborate?
Andrew Morgan
You sick empty fuckers. Those born in the 1980's and onward have not only been subject to Marxist propoganda through their schools, but are the first generation to also be brought up by parents who grew up surrounded by the same propaganda... So the big red pill for us is Cultural Marxism
The great insight gained by the Frankfort school was to divorce Marxism from economics, and marry Marxism to the Culture, and the fruit of this fundamental change of strategy is known as Critical Theory.
You're lil' coddle bots programmed to lash out violently at trigger words. That's what you're literally doing now. The left, flamed by Cultural Marxism, are literally the current day bigots and crusaders. 'Diversity' is now essentially code for white-genocide. Any opposing belief, idea, concept, or argument is met with 'mob justice' and violence.
Criticism without alternative reinforces the Narrative. Opening up the criticism to alternatives disconnects yourself from the Narrative. Giving the target a chance to erode the Narrative by responding to the alternatives is an attack against the Narrative. If the Narrative is internalized, any attack against it is an attack against you.
Goals of Marxism: 1) Destroy the Family 2) Destroy Private Property 3) Destroy Religion 4) Destroy the Nation
Leo Fisher
Thanks for proving that Spain is nothing but losers as far as the eye can see.
Carter Russell
I don't support nationalism in any form and the closest thing I would support is the socialism in one country concept of Stalin as a temporary measure.
Grayson Kelly
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Ryan Gray
What you call cultural marxism is capitalist liberalism.
Luis Green
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Henry Gonzalez
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Brayden Collins
so if I have a farm and my faggot lazy neighbor has a farm, come harvest time they take all of my shit and hardly his, why should I give a fuck? fuck you.
Aiden Martinez
y so serious, brah?
Logan Walker
hello gomrades :DDDDD
Ryan Martinez
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Justin Powell
And it is mainly pushed by marxists. Does this general serve any other purpose than you flailing around for 200 posts, going 'T-that wasn't rea- 'This i-isn't what it see- 'B-but these people don't r-represe-
If you were a mid level boss, your name would be Deflector.
Robert Lee
So how does a communist feels about luxury/branded goods? What happens to Hollywood billionaire celebrity when the revolt comes?
Jason Bell
Better dead than red you slant eyed cuck.
Andrew Jones
>So how does a communist feels about luxury/branded goods?
As communists always do - they surround themselves with it. Just as our commies who would travel west and brought back stuff like colour TV or fruits that would mean a bullet for a working class person, because, you know, communists care about working class.
Nicholas King
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Hudson Mitchell
He cuckmunist, how dies it feel to know the last bastion of communism in Spain is going to destroy itself in a few hours?
Logan Hernandez
I think it's kinda sad that it's always the same pathetic 8gagger posting these threads. It's the most hilariously inept attempt at subversion I've ever seen.
Cameron Moore
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Bentley Smith
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Jace Lopez
but all of those states were brutal genocidal failures except for Libya
"Should the Jew, with the aid of his Marxist creed, triumph over the people of this world, his Crown will be the funeral wreath of mankind, and this planet will once again follow its orbit through ether, without any human life on its surface, as it did millions of years ago" -t Hitler
FUCK OFF COMMIES
Blake Moore
We should meme nazbolism into the mainstream
Ethan Moore
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Thomas Gray
STOP
Leo Clark
Actually Socialism is highest form of Collective rule - of OUR rule against the Strong ones, whereas Capitalism is a forestep, where still Strong ones can exert some rules of Jungle.
Communism is destruction of all structures and way back to small tribes and back to jungles, and because of this it has got no right to exist...
Communes - small tribes in communistic relation, like were in ancient Slavs and Amerindians, were weak - no organized army paid by taxes, and had no culture and univerisities, and science and medicine, because for all these you need common struggle of a larger STATE. There are no written remains of these communistic cultures without States and Taxes, because they did not evolve writing systems, because they could not nourish the boondoggles, who waste their times writing and copying books...
Communities without State have got no strong army either, and are always destroyed by first organized barbars with a Strong State, with Strong Army supported by peasant taxes.
Contemplate about natural and good Indian caste system: there are peasants (anyone working by body), there are merchants, there are warriors (and policement and sportsmen) and there are philosophers (anyone working sitting by brain).
It is natural and good, that peasants support warriors who protect them and philosophers, who create the only added value of the society, and who all cannot do it without peasant support.
The means and amounts change, but the principles are natural and omnipresent.
Only wrong and devilish communistic society can live without State and Taxes, shortly before complete destruction...
----- Remember: Communism is OPPOSITE of Socialism !
----- And to note more - every anti-christian movement is Antichristian and will always fail, because of lack of people's morals at least...
Brody Baker
Q: Why did the commies cross the road? A: They got chased off the sidewalk
Hunter Gonzalez
I don't want to see any complaining. If you don't like these threads, either sage or ignore. Simple.
Don't bother reporting.
Just don't complain about it in other threads as if it's out of your hands.
If you're here to debate, I recommend you leave regardless. These "people" are snakes. They debate like the Jews do according to Hitler.
chile is the only country with decent standards of living in all of south America and that's because of him saving it from the deadly ideology of degenerates look at the GDP per capita and compare it to any other south American country and about him killing commies well the picture explains my feelings about commies
Cameron James
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Levi Lopez
Beautiful.
Ian Johnson
>two recessions k
Evan Cruz
>modern Marxist-Leninists >supporting the repulsive ZIONIST entity. Pick one. Lol, let me guess, le "Gommies" stole your "freedom fries", Burger?
From the River To the Sea Palestine will be Free
Victory to the Axis of RESISTANCE against American and Zionist hegemony.
you are a sad puppet of a dead scam of a false revolution of a controlled opposition actually created by the bankers that you think you hate
Jason Robinson
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Ayden Jackson
>gommunists
Adrian Taylor
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Carson Barnes
>entire thread is just OP spamming garbage and everyone else laughing at him Extra short rope for you, reddy.
Wyatt Barnes
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Jackson Clark
Not mainlander filth, sorry. You can go and join them in their rotting fleshhive.
Luke Bennett
This, """"""""""""""""anarcho""""""""""""""capitalism is basically corporate fascism with a friendly face.
Dylan Sanchez
>tfw the Chinese National Socialist goes to a shitty little island and makes it 10x successful than a country 50x larger than it only because it's not fucking communism
Reminder that everything derived from marxism is just a delusional cult. That's why they only survive in echo chambers, that's why after a month of spamming on Sup Forums they still need to beg at /leftypol/ for people to bump their threads.
Anthony Moore
A communist economic system would be characterized by advanced productive technology that enables material abundance, which in turn would enable the free distribution of most or all economic output and the holding of the means of producing this output in common. In this respect communism is differentiated from socialism, which, out of economic necessity, restricts access to articles of consumption and services based on one's contribution.
Gavin Ross
Creating a wealthy society is quite simple and straight forward. You just have to be able to properly value things, that way you'll know which actions increase and which actions decrease the welfare of society.
The best way of valuing things is through auctioning, just put all the stuff there, and give it to the people that value it the most. This works because people actually confirm the value by paying with their networth, they are confirming that they believe to have gained from the exchange and to have bumped the value properly. This is why capitalism works, this is why capitalism never decreases in wealth in the long term. Almost all citizens know how to add to the system just by looking for personal profit.
Now, ask yourself, how do you know whether a good is worth its costs in a communist society? If you ask this to a commie, he'll start making shit up on the spot. "cost doesn't really exist", "super computer that I can't explain will do it","we'll use math that I can't even begin to explain".
Commies never bothered to think about the fundamental method of making a wealthy society. Their scientific method is backwards, they start with the conclusion and attempt the logic afterwards. Commies will always be wrong for intrinsic reasons. Their methodology is fundamentally delusional.
Christopher Mitchell
>Implying China was ever "fucking communist".
Nolan Bell
The same fucking spainard spamming this shit, go starve in a breadline you Commie cuck
Sebastian Moore
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Bentley Evans
But it's not just in logistical problems that their delusions show; their view on human nature is pure fantasy.
Biologists and psychologists have come to understand with extreme intimacy our natural instincts and tendencies. We, just like most mammals, have instincts of personal space, territory. Thanks to that, private property and individualism is perceived as a birthright to the overwhelming majority of humans that aren't mentally ill.
You can't have a system dependent on charity and goodwill. People will not accept that. The top 20% of productivity will just fight to detach the parasites that benefit from them. Without brutal totalitarianism holding them, what would stop their secession?
Jaxson Collins
I don't like your condescending tone I would like to discuss with you in a relaxed manner. Both you and I want to learn about this topic, I don't assume that just because I'm in Sup Forums we need to call each other faggots and act like schoolyard kids though you have behave like that in the past and that to being with turn on the alarms.
Christopher Brooks
1) When has Marxism ever worked for an actual prolonged period of time, say at least for a whole generation? And I do mean "worked". 2) When has Marxism ever been wilfully adopted by the people of a nation, without force or threat of death by a superior power? And 3) When has the implementation of communism not resulted in the death or violent subjugation of millions of people?
In another note, please shove your communism all the way up your ass. Make sure it goes all the way.
Wyatt Taylor
>1) When has Marxism ever worked for an actual prolonged period of time, say at least for a whole generation? And I do mean "worked". 2) When has Marxism ever been wilfully adopted by the people of a nation, without force or threat of death by a superior power? And 3) When has the implementation of communism not resulted in the death or violent subjugation of millions of people? 1) 2) You seem to think Marxism is a method of government. It's not. 3) The same goes for communism. It cannot be "implemented".
Lucas Powell
I already debated with a billion commies; there's nothing you can say to add to my understanding of things. As I said, you are part of a delusional cult and there's no amount of explanation that I can give to you that will change your mind. I can't only ridicule you so other people see how retarded you are, but I can't use reasonable arguments against a belief that didn't come about through reason.
If you actually cared about learning this topic, you would stop being a communist in about a day.
Oh yeah, by the way, you are a faggot.
Jordan Miller
>there's nothing you can say to add to my understanding of things Now that's what I would call delusional.
Daniel Collins
I know Marxism is not a form of government. It is an ideology. Nowhere in my questions did I say it was a governmental method or institution. I was careful about that. As for your point. You didn't make one. You just presumed I said stuff I didn't, without explaining your point or making one. For one, you could elaborate more instead of assuming things or making vague comments.
Caleb Peterson
Alright then, can you tell me how do you know whether a good is worth its costs in a communist society? Prove to me I'm wrong, you faggot.
You'll just try to slide the discussion and not answer the question, you'll never actually tell me anything new. Your post is even laughable taking into consideration that you idiots are unable to discuss with me for an entire week.
Jace Lewis
Childhood is wanting socialism. Adulthood is wanting anarcho communism
Leo Phillips
The so called human nature is nothing but the study of the human brain physiology and it's interaction with the memenome(indivual) and the memesphere(all the memenomes), is a complex topic that I doubt is developed enough to make the conclusions such as that personal space instincts are justification for an economic system feasibility/maintenance but we can hypothesize about a socioeconomic system that maximizes the overall happiness of the population. You defend that because we have territorial instincts that alone justifies private property and I argue for example that in communism personal property exist for the very same reason, that we are predisposed genetically to feel good with our personal belongings and space.
Keep making assumptions about other people you don't know enough and you won't find any truth.
Aaron Roberts
There's nothing radical or revolutionary about your archaic ideology/religion. It's just retarded.
Juan Rodriguez
>worked >And I do mean "worked". >adopted >the implementation of communism
Justin Gray
not an argument it's revolutionary and it doesn't matter if it's an old thing
Joseph Baker
>this one idiot represents all the communists and anarchists in the world HMMMMMM MADE ME THINK
Jose Nelson
>can you tell me how do you know whether a good is worth its costs in a communist society? There is no "worth" in a communist society!
