Questions for Christians and cuckolics - do you actually believe in your version of God?
I mean, it makes no sense. Why are there hundreds of religions on Earth? How likely is it god tricked a billion other people but your special group was the true religion?
Why doesn't god just show himself? How can he expect rational human beings to accept baseless claims?
How does the supposedly all knowing Bible not mention the millions of other planets and thousands of other galaxies?
And why would you fight among yourselves? Would your God want that?
You sound a little too intelligent to believe in religion. Most religions that have reached Christianity's popular throughout history like Zoroastrianism have long since dissipated. Eventually the name of Jesus will be forgotten.
Unfortunately right now in my country religion is the only thing holding back the liberal tide, so I consider it a necessary evil.
Evan Cox
religon is for those with under 100 IQ
Us smart types fill the religious void with other heroes in place of jesus (pic related)
Jacob White
>atheist >intelligent pick one. they are the most blind people on earth.
Logan Wright
i never undestood this image. Is the baboons asses blue an yellow to symbolize ukranian refugees?
Was it originally an anti-holhol picture?
Jason Phillips
Yes, and I believe saving a thumbnail to be a cardinal sin.
Jack Sanders
She is Stephanie Joosten model for Quiet from MGSV
Luke Bailey
We're right, I thought you knew better pol&
Justin Nguyen
Let's see here um.
>Satan
Benjamin Rivera
Most people are caught up in the great deception and they are worshiping one of the gods as their Lord.
These guys are called the Archons, they are the Anunna gods who came here a long time ago.
The greeks knew Enlil and Enki as Zeus and Poseidon.
The romans knew these same gods by their planetary personifications. Jupiter and Neptune.
These are the Sons of El of the Elohim, or Anu of the Anunnaki. The planet Saturn.
The Jews are False Monotheists. Those choose one of the Pagan gods to be their King / Lord.
One of the Archons.
The Chief Archon is the Demiurge. He is the Father of their Messiah.
They call him Yahshua.
The Jews will openly tell you that Jesus is not their Messiah. Because they are waiting for Yah / Iao.
Yahshua means Yah is Savior.
Yah is one of the Archons. The son of Yaldabaoth.
Juan Gray
Enki or Neptune / Poseidon is the Hindu Shiva.
Shiva is known to have the weapon called the Trishula. It is the same as the Trident that Poseidon / Neptune is known for.
He is the god of the Sea and the Sand.
Ea Enki.
En means Lord in Sumerian, he is the lord of Ki.
His brother Enlil is the lord of the wind, breath or command.
Zeus the lord of the Storms, his weapon is the lightning bolt.
Lord of Air and Fire.
Luke Allen
I'm an atheist yet support organised religion because it's a force for connecting people and stregthnening the society.
Militant Atheism is a tool to divide people and ridicule eachother for peaceful beliefs.
Isaac Gutierrez
I´m an atheist but your objections are fucking retarded
Ian Torres
How? It's retarded than a monoesthic god with qualities described as in the Bible is real, and he decides to show himself/ tell the people of the middle east about him, but for the previous thousands of years and across the glove he just doesn't feel like it?
Eli Baker
Please don't post images such as this outside of
Hudson Young
i refuse to believe anyone here is actually a Christian. i mean, what kind of grown ass man could believe that when he dies he will be teleported to another dimension where he will live with all his friends and family and be immortal?
Lincoln Sanders
Riley Reid looks so much like Joosten that you don't really need to play MGS V.
Jack Adams
Sounds like a Dungeons & Dragons lorebook.
Isaac Gutierrez
>im 4 and this is deep
Ever read the bible? It says the kingdom of heaven is within you.
The straw man version of the religion you are trying to debunk has nothing to do with the meaning, actual words, or beliefs of real people.
Rockefeller family funded a takeover of churches about a 100 years ago and the spread of the silliness that you read about in pop culture a la the rapture and pearly gates in the sky. This has no relationship to what christians have long believed or believe today.
Congratulations on being conned by an oligarch.
Sebastian Sanders
Fuck off , Sup Forums is a christian board u leddit fag
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Jackson Miller
Exactly this, ever notice that most christians worship is based entirely on fear. The one true God is not a jealous and vain God who tortures people eternally for slightly offending him. Islam, Judiasm, and Christianity are the three big evils in the world, all worship the demiurge, the exact opposite of what Christ wanted.
Levi Harris
It's the Maidan pretesters.
Isaiah Roberts
There is only one God and his name is Jesus Christ
Asher Ross
>Why are there hundreds of religions on Earth? You must distinguish paganism from actual well established monotheistic religions. The former comes from the human tendency to see agency behind everything that is better framed as being random, i.e. why people make up bullshit stories about the stock market. The latter isn't and usually based on a notion that a naturalist worldview is both very limited and contradictory.
>How likely is it god tricked a billion other people but your special group was the true religion? God did not trick anyone. Free will. Also, just because a religion is different does not mean it is 100% wrong. The Muslims, for instance, are more correct than the Greeks and their mythology.
>Why doesn't god just show himself? He did, and He does.
>How can he expect rational human beings to accept baseless claims? It's not "rational" but accepting naturalism mindlessly. That's the only difference.
>How does the supposedly all knowing Bible not mention the millions of other planets and thousands of other galaxies? Bible is not written by God but by humans inspired by God.
>And why would you fight among yourselves? Catholics vs other Christians or religions in general?
>Would your God want that? God wants people to serve Him and the truth, and be moral.
Blake Nelson
If you take Christianity literally, you're stupid.
Carson Phillips
Shut the fuck up reverse Poland. You need religion to control the masses. Just keep telling them stories about your christian virtues and let them suffer in the name of better afterlife. Do you think these animals would go to a shitty job every morning and not steal shit without Christianity in place? Fucking pleb, praise Jesus.
Kevin Fisher
>I mean, it makes no sense. Why are there hundreds of superstitions about germs? How likely is it nature tricked a billion other people but your special group was the true medical knowledge? Yeah, people are idiots and will invent retarded folk theories even when the truth is staring them in the face.
Brody Lee
I thought his name was יהוה and Jesus was just a hippie tool just like Joseph Smith. By the way, Joseph of nazareth was a cuck. He let some guy named Angel fuck his wife and he still chose to raise that baby instead of stoning everyone involved to death.
Isaac Gutierrez
Question: Assume that you're trapped here with a demiurge, what nao?
Jonathan Moore
End the simulation.
Gabriel Jackson
what simulation?
Asher Campbell
>How does the supposedly all knowing Bible not mention the millions of other planets and thousands of other galaxies?
First, your ass is showing...there are trillions and trillions of stars...you're off by several orders of magnitude. Secondly, nigga are you trollin': >"Therefore as many as the stars of the sky in multitude, and as innumerable as the sand which is by the sea shore, were fathered by one man..." (Hebrews 11:12]
>infinite space >millions >trillions and trillions Think bigger.
Brandon James
a recent idea I had about this, is that God needs to conceal himself to reveal to us the difference between this bleak, linear existence, that ends in death, and whatever existence is really like
if you could look right at God and say 'there He is' then the lesson wouldn't be as informative
but as always, it's a bit preposterous when someone says 'what God is doing is stupid, therefore we should stop believing he exists,' it doesn't follow logically, and it reveals that the person speaking has a motive other than seeking truth
Robert Bennett
So there are billions of stars and God chose Jews as his special people? Sounds like a trick desu.
Jonathan Reed
The Bible is one true narrative from start to finish. All those other books are a collection of stories at max. The Bible is the only religious book that has real world evidence of its characters. The birth and death of Jesus were prophesied with perfect accuracy. The prophet Isaiah who was hundreds of years before Jesus's time told about Crucifixion which was a roman custom unknown to those people at that time.
THIS IS WHY THE BIBLE IS THE TRUE WORD OF GOD AND THE ONLY CREDIBLE RELIGIOUS BOOK THAT YOU MUST ACCEPT.
Jonathan Campbell
Is God a fucking white male? Does he speak english?
Jackson James
The size of the universe is a testament to God's power. Only the most weak willed amongst people could look at the vastness of creation and imagine that the atheism fairy just exploded it out of nothing for no reason.
It's well accepted by modern Christians that God caused the Big Bang. It was first devised by Catholic Priest and Physcist George's Lemitre you understand.
Fedoras of the day hated the idea, because it points to the idea of a creator. All the cool atheists back then thought the universe was eternal. They had maths 'proving' it and everything. But then they realised LeMotre was right, and have spent the last 50 years trying to show how a Big Bang can happen without a creator. They gave up in the end as said 'well it's impossible to know how it happened, but we know what happened 0.0000002 seconds AFTER, so obviously it doesn't matter how it happened'
Can you see the irony?
Connor Rodriguez
In old testament god was a totally illogical prick to everyone.
Cooper Mitchell
>Jews
During His lifetime, no persons were described as "Jews" anywhere. That fact is supported by theology, history and science. When Jesus was in Judea, it was not the "homeland" of the ancestors of those who today style themselves "Jews". Their ancestors never set a foot in Judea. They existed at that time in Asia, their "homeland", and were known as Khazars. In none of the manuscripts of the original Old or New Testament was Jesus described or referred to as a "Jew". The term originated in the late eighteenth century as an abbreviation of the term Judean and refers to a resident of Judea without regard to race or religion, just as the term "Texan" signifies a person living in Texas.
In spite of the powerful propaganda effort of the so-called "Jews", they have been unable to prove in recorded history that there is one record, prior to that period, of a race religion or nationality, referred to as "Jew". The religious sect in Judea, in the time of Jesus, to which self-styled "Jews" today refer to as "Jews", were known as "Pharisees". "Judaism" today and "Pharisaism" in the time of Jesus are the same.
Jesus abhorred and denounced "Pharisaism"; hence the words, "Woe unto you Scribes and Pharisees, Hypocrites, Ye Serpents, Ye Generation of Vipers".
Luke Turner
>distinguish between paganism and monotheism I could, why would I? It's not important to the argument. Monoesthic religions also differ wildly. The causes behind each are irrelevant but I also disagree. The all encompassing creator god is there in every religion.
>free will I meant why would a god allow what each religion claim to be heresy to pass? For example, the Old Testament god didn't give a shit about the Japanese worshipping their polyesthic gods, or how the Old Testament god didn't give a fuck about thousands of years of the Greek pantheon.
>He doesn't show himself I mean about all the rules and supposed commandments each religion claims to be God's. God could easily inscribe them into the moon or something, but for some reason decides to let billions make up their own rules (with each saying everyone else is wrong).
Jack Brooks
the big spoiler is no first world adult actually believes their religion is factually accurate, they just like the community and think the morals are good for their people, so pretend it is
Matthew Ortiz
>God dropped by >But only while the human race was at its most superstitious Hmmmmm
Ethan Wilson
Germs aren't omnipotent and trying to convince people they exist. Germs were subsequently confirmed by microscopes.
If germs were omnipotent, and demanded the faith and belief of humans towards germ theory, why did they let theories about humors and chi exist?
Levi Wood
What you actually mean is that no adult really believes nothing exploded into everything for no reason.
You're also forgetting the evidence and scholars that support the story of Jesus
That all means that the multiple prophecies written (according to historical scholars) centuries before Christ was born all happen to be correct on the time, place, and person.
>let me guess: lucky guesses ayyylmao
Angel Parker
(((Yeshua)))
Asher Fisher
Another of my problem with religion, people using vague anecdotes and liberal interpretations to say the Bible is "scientific". Science needs precision, which "innumerable stars" are not. The Bible did not describe how to calculate the orbits of planets, or the Doppler effect, or the existence of black holes. All it did was describe what 0BC humans saw in the sky with fancy description.
Jeremiah Campbell
Stephine is such a cutie
Jayden Wood
dont project your anglo nihilism on me faggot
Carson Ortiz
I don't deny that generally speaking there's some force that created everything, and it's far more powerful than humans. I disagree with all the more specific things, like how we get from the infinity of creation to gays can't marry or you should go to church every Sunday.
Oliver Smith
The Bible doesn't need to. It doesn't really matter. Truly intelligent people see that.
The Bible is a historical document and a guide to lead a good life. You follow its instructions, you go to heaven. How God caused stars to form isn't in the bible in the same way how plants germinate isn't part of a cookery book, it's irrelevant.
Dylan Davis
>6 Heathen Shill >and so forth and so on
Easton Torres
Never raised on any religion but I believe there is a god judging my actions and values
Colton Bell
Become gay
Cooper Price
>for there are many lords and gods but we serve the creator of all
>a foolish and unwise generation asks for a sign (cannot remember exactly what it says after and don't want to give false scripture, but I believe it says something about the earthquakes and other things in revelations being our only signs that His return is near)
>faith is the evidence of things unseen the substance of things hoped for (have a field day with this one you bitter sad misguided soul)
>for there is no Greek nor Jew no slave nor master for we are all one in Christ
Maybe just try opening a book once
Juan Gray
I saw some reports that Christianity is declining and Islam is rising in the west. While Christianity is growing in eastern countries like China and S. Korea. Major shift in balance here, can anybody explain why?
Adam Adams
Dan Brown books have a lot of historical facts dosent mean its all true
Alexander Taylor
You're misunderstanding the big bang theory. It's a theory about what something happened at some point, it doesn't say what happens before that. And it's based on available evidence - background radiation, celestial bodies slowly movie away from each other.
>prophet's miracles, predictions et cetera Practically every religion claims this. The Buddhists think Buddha purified dirty water and stopped a rampaging elephant in its tracks. The Muslims think Muhammad made a number of correct predictions about the death of certain enemies and where the enemy chiefs would die which turned out to be right.
And if Peter Schiff predicted the great recession, is he a prophet?
Jaxon Harris
Islam is the fastest growing religion in China, secondly people aren't converting they are transportation Muslims who breed like rats
Alexander Brooks
The great mass of people is stupid, and religion works to keep order.
It suits us and the traditions it instills help.
There aren't any successful atheistic societies and there never will be.
Modern Christianity is cucked and it needs to become strong again for the sake of the white race.
Lucas Rivera
You're shifting goalposts. We're talking about the truth of religions, and he brought in some descriptions about the universe. Assuming the Bible is the word of God, it should arrive least be able to specifically number stars. He's not trying doesn't support the idea the Bible is the word of God. At best it doesn't disprove it.
Ryan Rodriguez
You have no idea what you're talking about my word dude. Is everything you know about believers from what the (((media))) shows you? Clearly. The church is the body of people, not the building or a day of the week.
Joshua Gonzalez
Smaller things can grow faster. It's a well established principle in investing. There's a certain limit on how 70% of the population can grow. But 0.5% can grow at lot faster in percentage terms. But if it's growing in absolute terms, I have no idea why.
Camden Long
eventually you'll realize the culture and community the religion offers is better than the nihilism, apathy and isolation that atheism leads to
Cameron Sullivan
Leave all the evolution and big bang facts Christians will find a way to refute them, mitochondria have their own DNA and get transferred from mother to daughter we atleast had 5 mothers in the beginning let them explain this
Logan Davis
I'm not shifting goalposts. It's unimportant.
Dylan Powell
Gay can't marry because they can't consummate the union through sexual intercourse. They lack the physical qualifications. Marriage is Penis + Vagina = babby formed
Hunter Scott
I see, thanks. I think I will stick to Buddhism.
Carson Nguyen
No, I've read the Bible, and the Dao De Ching, and partially the Buddha sutras and the Koran. Aside from the fancy language and unverifiable anecdotes (from my POV), the Bible and Koran are just folk tales. The Buddha sutras and Dao De Ching contain a lot of mysticism but have some grounding, like desire is the root cause of all suffering.
Lincoln Thomas
I believe in living in Jesus' shadow, being kind to people, not lying, trying to live healthy and to be gentle and graceful.
People who kill for righteousness aren't doing it for God, they kill because an earthly authority structure told them what is right and wrong and promised respect. True Christians don't kill.
Elijah Garcia
Unimportant to you maybe, but not to the discussion. How accurate the Bible is in describing verifiable facts is extremely important to seeing if it's the real word of God. I don't mean the definition, I mean the Bible saying homosexuality is wrong, or that gays to to heaven. It's sketchy how you get from the infinite expanse of the universe to gays burn for eternity.
Aiden Martinez
Christianity is the fastest growing religion in China
Kayden Stewart
Somebody lets millions of Muslims into their countries while Chinese shot them on sight?
Robert Smith
Marriage is a government sanctioned partnership if it was religious thing you wouldn't need go get a marriage certificate, it's as simple as that
Gabriel Anderson
There also haven't been any successful societies where everyone was bald and ate meatballs in Tuesday. Every society has been religious. The closet we can get to what is an atheist society is separation of church and state which was extremely beneficial.
Wyatt Rodriguez
Christianity is a tool to try to keep modesty for our women.
It slows down the societal decay that the jews create. This is why jews hate christians, because jews love faggots and trannies and sucking dick and pedophiles.
Michael Bailey
islam is not rising in the west, if you mean getting converts. its rising because muslims are immigrating to the west
Owen Bailey
Source, cause I also no longer believe in my claim cause it was based off a shady source, sorry for the misinformation
Jose Evans
Consider this: If God created the universe, and God is not malevolent, then nothing in the universe should contradict the proper narrative about that God. Why then would you be fixated on whether or not someone's religious beliefs are exactly perfect? This God is omniscient. He knows exactly why you believe everything that you believe. He is not angered if you end your life with a view that is inaccurate. He is angered if you reject the truth for the sake of your own pride.
Showing Himself to every human, too, would be utterly absurd. If God were to render Earth a perfect paradise where none could be unaware of His existence and laws, then why would He make it to begin with? He already has Heaven. Mankind was not made to be perfect. Only a fool would believe otherwise.
Asher Hill
>scholars that support the story of Jesus >All without a doubt happened as the Bible states. Lol no.
Mainstream views in academia completely undermine Christianity.
Carter Turner
>The birth and death of Jesus were prophesied with perfect accuracy. Or... you know... the story of Jesus was written to fit the old prophesies after the fact. Let me remind you that the Gospels were written from half a century to a century after Jesus died.
Chase Green
>if God created the universe, and God is not malevolent, nothing contradicts the narrative As far as I can tell god is the universe. I can't tell any more about him. I don't know if he's malevolent or benevolent or indifferent. And which narrative? The Bible? How did you get from God isn't malevolent and created the universe to the Bible is right?
>why would you fixate on whether someone's beliefs are perfect? Because religions differ enormously. The Buddhists and ancient Greeks believed in reincarnation if you follow a certain set of (very different) rules. The Chinese mythology states everyone is connected to Heaven by their ancestors. The Ancient Egyptians thought the universe arose when Order came out of Chaos. The only thing religions agree on is very vaguely
A) The universe somehow came into being by some force B) There's some kind of afterlife
>god is angered And how would I know God is angered? Maybe he's very happy. I have no evidence except people telling me.
>last paragraph All that assumes some human goal. Maybe he gets a kick out of watching humans be confused.
Adrian Gutierrez
Does God feel emotions?
Henry Mitchell
Your original post specified "Christians and cuckolics". Why would you expect anything other than the Christian God? The Christian God is obviously benevolent. He suffered and died purely for the sake of humanity.
>How would I know that God is angered? You aren't meant to because that would defeat the purpose of rendering Earth separate from Heaven, as I just said. Why do you think that everything revolves around us? That God is somehow criminal if He doesn't cater to us like a servant? The words that I speak now are the clear truth. Keep what I said about rejecting the truth in mind before you argue with me for no reason.
Liam Perez
That's too personal of a question to answer. We could never know if God feels emotions genuinely or if He knows which emotions are proper to express. In communicating with us, God has demonstrated anger and other emotions.
Gabriel Reed
>Why doesn't god just show himself?
Brandon Peterson
One holy Catholic and apostolic church
Cameron Morris
THE ANSWER IS RIGHT HERE DONT LET THEM SLIDE THIS THREAD
Matthew Perez
>In communicating with us, God has demonstrated anger and other emotions How so?
Jackson Harris
Dat joost
Logan Cooper
>being a fedoracuck that uses a false analogy on top of that
typical
Landon Rodriguez
>what did you feel before you were born? >somehow thinking you feel something after you died
nice logic
Joseph Allen
Because both modern science and religion are belief systems of manipulation that give the student a little bit if truth mixed with a lot of deception in order to get them to go along with what they are told
Sebastian Anderson
The Cane and Abel story comes to mind. God's reaction to Cane's actions are pretty cool. Another good example is Christ chasing the traders out of the temple with a whip.
David Cox
Christian, Muslim and Judiastic God all clearly go back to the same one. With Muslims splitting off Judiaism at Abraham & Christians splitting off at Jesus.
As monolithic religions represented by people it's by far the biggest
Carson Price
>Believing in a sand religion without question rather than pondering the parts that make sense and rejecting the parts that don't make sense Mental cuckoldry but I guess Christians are cuckolds so it makes sense
Nathan Mitchell
>Having such hubris that you imagine yourself justified in rejecting theological tenets just because you feel like it.
Leo Sanchez
How did God speak to Cain?
Christ was a human and humans feel emotions.
Charles Hernandez
The only thing that shakes my belief in God is pic related. Sometimes I lie in bed at night and wonder, how could a God create something so hideous? is not the existence of something so repulsive, in itself a refutation of the existence of a Divine Being? In the end I always trust in my faith though.
Nathan Watson
The hell are you going on about?
I said christians and catholics because I mean why do they believe in their version.
One of the few things that's logically clear is God cannot be both benevolent and omnipotent, because bad shit happens. It's only retconned by bending the words. Either nothing is really bad because only God decides what's good and bad, or people are inherently sinful which means God isn't omnipotent because he didn't design as virtuous.
>making heaven and earth separate because he wants us to not know Two out of three facts here are unverifiable. That heaven exists and he doesn't want us to know. We know earth exists, that's all. Your conclusion is not supported.
>why do you think everything revolves around us I'm not talking about God, I'm talking about religious ideas about God. Clearly we're very insignificant. But biblical god wants our faith and belief, and he's omnipotent. Not only is there insufficient evidence for this version of God, but it's logically contradictory.