redpill me on RS, is he a fed? Joe KEEP IT LOCAL Owens recently made yet another video an Spencer...so far, Spencer hasnt done any significant damage he could have done to the "movement" but the signs of him being a g-man are all over. the guy has the biography typical of a spy:
>familiy from spook central city of Arlington >upper WASP class, expensive private schools - CIA most often recruits this demography (and many confirmed that Ivy leage is absolutly filled with CIA recruiters) >ultra WASPy name and appearance, as if a black intelligence officer choose him to infiltrate dem rayciss whiteys >loaded with money >risen trough the ranks very quickly despite being very mediocre at intellectual production but more of an organizer >lots of connections, even more than many older WNs >weird episode with failed conference in budapest in 2014 he was central in >shutting down alternativeright.com in 2014 for no apparent reason despite the fact that is was then when alt-right term got grounds and the site was becoming more and more popular >phalanx club „implicit pyramid skeme“ (for money loundering or getting his gov check?) >misterious marriage with his (possible spy) russian wife that ended recently >never under stress or injured by media attacks - super brave...or has a plan B as his safety net? >literally too good to be true: educated, eloquent, handsome, dresses properly, handles media perfectly
So my question is not about is he a spy or not since he obviously has some strong connection with the government, but what is his endgame? Why hasnt he made a sabotaging move before Trump election? How strong is the possibiliy of him being backed by /ourguys/ within the gov?
Joe Owens think everyone other than Joe Owens and Nick Griffin is a paid government spy. I like him but damn.
Brandon Perez
the guy is probably the most influential person on the right right now...
>Joe Owens think everyone other than Joe Owens and Nick Griffin is a paid government spy.
He is spot on about spies within the BNP however...but he dun goofed by calling out Millenial Woes. Spencer, John Gage and Damigo do raise plenty of suspission - all of them have strong gov connections.
Gavin Robinson
He is right about spies in the BNP for sure, that's made him overly paranoid. Literally he seems to think almost everyone in the movement is a spy.
Ian Cruz
I JUST SAW CAPTAIN AMERICA CIVIL WAR WHY DOES RICHARD SPENCER LOOK LIKE THE BAD GUY IN THAT?
The alt right is fake as fuck
Cooper Gutierrez
one one hand I dont know what to think of RS, sure I have some political disagreements with him, but generally he is quite useufll and eloquent, but I cant look pass the red flags around him
Ryder Flores
Spencer's "think tank" that he's President of is all sorts of wtf. I don't know much about it but the website looks exactly like the kind of shit I used to set up for fake companies that had no address or product or anything really were just totally bullshit and wanted a website.
Henry Lee
Our future leader. Get used to it. We need him.
Ryan Rivera
Damigo and Gage are cawps 100%
Not sure about Spencer or his ex-wife. Spencer's new pal Jorjani is interesting
Christopher Bailey
Does anyone can give me some Richard Spencer’speech or his website ? I want to listen to this guy
Oliver Wood
If he's not a Fed then he's at least a useful idiot for enemies of the alt-right
Benjamin Moore
You guys sound a bit tired of winning. So what if he has connections? As long as he's doing good work for the nationalist movement I have a hard time being suspicious.
Perhaps people "higher up" realized they needed a fringe movement to push white nationalism in order for trump to succeed, and they chose Spencer.
he's not doing good work, he's an idiot LARPer who got caught doing a Nazi salute on camera at the NPI conference and then became a meme when he got punched by the antifa
You guys need him. He's the one who's actually doing something and not being a larping user behind the computer.
Juan Gutierrez
>got caught raising his glass on camera at the NPI conference ftfy
Isaac Parker
...
Brody Allen
Russian agent
Angel Adams
You fucking idiot, were you at the conference?
1. He didn't do a nazi salute, 6 people in the crowd did.
2. Nazi salute is a roman salute and the open hand means 'we come in peace'. There is nothing wrong with it, despite how jewish media portrays it.
3. People were fooling around since many parts of the conference was closed to the media and people were drinking, you naturally joke around more than in an official meeting.
And what was the backlash really? That the alt light fool like cernovich and ramzpaul took offense? Come on dude. You know nothing.
also he should have snapped a Roman salute like a normal person; clearly he hadn't had enough to drink.
Levi Gray
He's definitely a patsy of some type. His tweet about the Patriots have him away. He says things a leftist thinks a white supremacist would say. A neighborhood Nazi would not root for the Pats because they were the whitest team. They would lament that the great American sport of football has become rife with niggery. Very surface level stuff. Also modern Nazi dress like shit. Spencer dresses like a faggot
Cameron Sanchez
I don't like that he was announced our leader when no one had ever heard of him, but I dislike the coordinated extortion campaign kikes conducted against his mother even more.
Ian Thomas
He coined the phrase "Alt right" while Sup Forums were Ron Paul loving libertarians. As Sup Forums culture shifted for the better, our values began to share similarities with what "alt right." Sup Forums Isn't alt right because we fall under a wide umbrella of political ideas, most of us gravitating toward some sort of identitarian values. The media decided he was a good figure head to represent us all as a politically homogenous group. He's not our leader because frankly, we aren't organized enough to have one leader (that's not a bad thing). He's kind of a sperg at times. But he is doing good work and is publicly defending white people and putting himself in physical danger to do so, which means he's doing more than any of us are by shitposting all day, so in my opinion, we should not shit on him.
Charles Myers
He very clearly invited that kind of response and it was undoubtedly damaging. We need normies on our side, good luck doing that when they see dudes going SEIG HIEL
Jayden Adams
All his tweets were about Tom Brady and Lady Gaga
he's probably sucked more dicks than Milo
Christopher Fisher
MPC is cancer. >white nationalism is for gross losers >respectable childless programmers and lawyers know the only way forward is 95% white civic nationalism, just cut social programs and the shitskins will evaporate
Joshua Nelson
God Joe Owens in an idiot if he actually thinks MW is a spy. He has a tiny YT channel that averages 7-8k views per video. Yeah I'm sure he's controlled opposition.
Liam Morris
>it was undoubtedly damaging wrong
>We need normies on our side They have to be bullied into picking sides. Constantly groveling and trying to prove you're not a Nazi while you advocate for making America white again makes you look weak at best and deceitful at worst. Better to do something audacious.
Cooper Myers
He's not a plant, a fed, a leader or anything. Just a plain old pussy, coward and cuckold who lost a fight with a literal shit-eating ANTIFA old man.
Sebastian Parker
I disagree. It certainly caused a media shitstorm and triggered liberals, but it revealed how damaging the left's policy of calling everyone who disagrees with them "Nazis" has been. He's still there, doing his thing in public and the numbers of those following his ideas are growing. Look at all the non-whites saying 1488 at HWNDU.
Justin Diaz
Watch Nathan Damigo talking to TYT.
After you've watched that, then tell me you honestly think giving Nazi salutes to "bully people into picking sides" is a better strategy that that, then I really don't know what to tell you.
Blake Richardson
Getting sucker punched during an interview while your attention is intently focused on the interviewer by someone who immediately ran away does not qualify as losing a fight.
Josiah Williams
yeah and then he ran off, cringing, and fucking FIXED HIS HAIR, the pussy faggot
Cooper Clark
He walked away like a pussy and cried, I'm a beta and even I would have chased down whoever attacked me, just in the moment of adrenaline rush and fight instinct.
Evan Murphy
Normies who aren't on board with the SJW shit now associate "alt-right" with neo-Nazism. Now I know some on here autistically screech "ALT-RIGHT ISN'T A REAL THING KIKE PROPAGANDA REEEE" but we need to organise somehow and it seemed the best banner to organise under until that
Nicholas Sanders
>cf
Kill yourself for listening to that piece of garbage, Juan
Jose Flores
I disagree. My family is full of right-leaning normies and their response has been "Well sure they shouldn't be doing nazi salutes, but you have to expect this kind of response from people who love their country and want to save it from liberal idiots when they've been pushed too far."
Zachary James
The alt-right is to a great extent synonymous with neo-Nazism. There's nothing wrong with that.
Kayden Gutierrez
He's right about fags and degenerates. The only bad thing about CF is how much of a cuck shill he is for Pisslam and his reversal of the JQ. CommonPedro is to my left.
Cameron Ortiz
Because chimping out in front of the media would annihilate any shred of credibility the movement had, not only that but the incident helped the anti-antifa petition greatly. If I was sucker punched by a leftist I would fight back but I'm not a the perceived public figure for the movement.
Austin Phillips
Why aren't you in the forefront of the white nationalist movement then, if you're so brave?
Oh that's right, you're a spic, and you hate what you call "nazis' and you would have hated him even if he didn't get sucker punched by a fag.
For your information, he has now hired personal guards so that he will not be assaulted randomly during interviews. So I can assure you it won't occur again.
Sebastian Brooks
>this is okay
Jaxson Clark
I heard he is also puppet of Putin
Elijah Walker
50 years ago, spouting communist propaganda in the US would make you a pariah, hated by just about everyone because we understood the evils of communism and the destruction of societies and human life that comes from their ideas. Socialists slowly pushed the overton window until we got to the place we are in now, where a Socialist can run for president and no one cares. Pushing the overton window in the other direction so that far right ideas are eventually accepted is not a bad idea. There will be pushback. Some people will be publicly shamed for it, like Communists were in the 60s....but eventually people will stop caring and will just accept it as normal political talk. It's human nature.
Luke Cruz
Well there you go you said it yourself, they said they shouldn't have done that. It does us no good whatsoever, pushes people who might have been on our side otherwise more toward the (((civic nationalism))) and all that shit.
Aaron Powell
He didn't even need to fully chimp out, just grab the fucker until the cops arrive.
>would annihilate any shred of credibility the movement had
Oh you mean how the media turned the incident into pro-ANTIFA? Even pro-Trump normies were CHEERING FOR ANTIFA for punching le evil nazi.
>not only that but the incident helped the anti-antifa petition greatly
Wroooong, the Milo event riots and that one Trump girl getting maced did.
Told you CommonFilth is to my left. If I was in charge, he'd be sent into the bog for his heretical pro-Islam pedo shilling alone.
Lucas Perez
Alright you fucks, we've sat through Hailgate, the Roland Martin interview, the inauguration punch, and every fucking time someone has made a thread about Richard Spencer it's been filled with at least five posts from Joe Owens posters saying he's a shill, an agent, a plant, etc. etc. with exactly zero fucking evidence of proving it. It's a bullshit knee-jerk reaction from a bunch of unserious, mainly American, shitposters who claim to be nationalists but don't know who the fuck this guy is. Which is fair enough, I hadn't heard about Kevin MacDonald until about 2014 and I've been involved in nationalism since the mid-noughties. I've known about this guy longer than most of you have been posting on this fucking board. I remember listening to him on Radix's Vanguard podcasts, tuning in mainly to broadcasts with the late, great Jonathan Bowden. >Hurr durr I only found out about this guy when CNN outed him >Literally who? I've spoken to him in person at a Traditional Britain event back in 2012, I believe when he was nearly done editing at AlternativeRight.com. He's the real deal and has been involved in this for a long time. Just because you didn't know who he was isn't his fucking fault, it's yours. It's okay if you've only just heard about him, but shut the fuck up about calling the guy a plant because you sound like fucking complete tools. I've asked for proof before and all I was given was the one photo of Spencer and his former wife posing with Laura Bush. That's it. I can't be sure of this, but given that he's also been photographed with even Ron Paul, I would estimate that rather him being a Bush shill... really, see how ridiculous it sounds already... he's involved in various circles on the right since he's worked for so many publications on the right. Or maybe he's just a shill like everyone else. No one's good enough for Sup Forums, even though half of its users are detestable, unreasonable losers who do jack shit other than post all day.
Adrian Bell
We need normies to become aware that communism = Judaism again. The Greatest Generation all knew but after WWII no one wanted to counter-signal the Jews too much so the boomers never got the message.
Elijah Howard
Forgot pic, he handed ANTIFA a massive PR win (which they already wasted with the Berkeley riot).
Evan Taylor
There was a lot of outrage when it first happened, but how much outrage was there over the group of high school students who shouted HAIL TRUMP and gave the Roman salute at their pep rally? Minor levels of outrage. These things have a way of desensitizing us. The more it happens, the less the average person will take notice.
William Peterson
Controlled opposition
Eli Gray
>massive PR hit More of an antifa moral booster if anything. Probably less than 10% of people in America see this incident as a positive event.
Brandon Howard
Spencer is a good guy, and mosty share the values most people on /pol have.
CTR/Antifa/Journalists are trying to turn us into cuckservatives by having us "denounce" one of ours (until they find the next Spencer, that we'll have to denounce, too)
I, for one, don't care what CTR/antifa/journalists think of him, Spencer is a bro.
Aiden Jenkins
>that receded hairline
Every time.
Also, I love that they idolise these guys like Captain America and Indiana Jones when they were created in and for a time where social attitudes were pretty much exactly the same as most of the Alt Right.
Alexander Powell
>lost a fight He was rushed by a guy with a wrench in his fucking sleeve you stupid spic.
Camden Foster
Agreed. Part of the reason why the Left has been so politically successful over the past many decades is the fact that they never accuse one of their own of wrongdoing, nomatter how radical or centrist the person is. At the same time, the try to force the Right to hold itself to its own moral standards. That tends to work. Republicans always quickly distance themselves from one of their own who is caught in a scandal. It's almost-preprogrammed into the Republican consciousness. Democrats insist that their scandals don't exist. Time to use their tactics against them.
Jacob White
dude you mexican faggot you are in every fucking spencer thread shilling against him and saying HERRR HES NOT LINCOLN ROCKWELL
its so obvious you are a shill. if someone punches you when you aren't look and runs away in a direction you dont see THERE ISN'T SHIT YOU CAN DO. FUCK OFF.
William Lee
I don't denounce Spencer, he's one of us. I just think Roman saluting is awful strategy.
Jackson Martin
he didn't roman salute, he toasted his glass. three jews in the audience roman saluted
Owen Stewart
>>Also, I love that they idolise these guys like Captain America and Indiana Jones when they were created in and for a time where social attitudes were pretty much exactly the same as most of the Alt Right.
No contradiction when (((((((HARRISON FORD)))) stars as Indiana Jones directed by ((((((((STEVEN SPIELBERG)))))))))) and Captain America was a propaganda comic book created by ((((HYMIE SIMON))))) AND ((((((((JACK KIRBY))))))).
Sorry queer freak, but his cowardice needs to be called out and serve as an example of what NOT to do.
Blake Wood
He didn't do the salute though. He raised a glass of whiskey in a toast. The people in the front did the same. A few people in the back gave the salute and the media ran with the narrative that it was him who started it. I still don't think the long term repercussions were bad, but Spencer shouldn't be blamed for it.
Juan Nguyen
yeah and i see your dumb beaner ass had no response to what i said about him being punched randomly and the guy immediately running away into a crowd of people
keep shilling tho, we're on to you
Hunter Young
>redpill me on..
fuck off retard
Tyler Morgan
He was inviting that response, knew full well what he was doing. Bad idea but doesn't mean he's a shill
Leo Bennett
>yeah and i see your dumb beaner ass had no response to what i said about him being punched randomly and the guy immediately running away into a crowd of people
The camera man even with his huge backback grabbed the ANTIFA guy, Spencer could have caught him then and there.
Noah Bell
>Damigo and Gage are cawps 100%
THIS.
>Not sure about Spencer or his ex-wife.
also sketchy, most likely KGB. they dont seem like a fit in marriage. everything about her is suspiciouss.
>Spencer's new pal Jorjani is interesting
transhumanist excentric. Too original tought process that Damigo basic bitch alt right to be a spook.
>As long as he's doing good work for the nationalist movement
he IS doing good work, that is why I cant understand him
Sebastian Gray
he grasped his bag for half a second as he was rushing by, you act like he had a firm grasp on him and was holding him there
Luke Long
...
Brayden Watson
He's definitely FBI
Way too many coincidences
Gabriel Carter
Reminder that Spencer is the media's pet racist. May he be punched, hard and often.
Hunter Williams
Alt right are the new liberals.
John Allen
I've been in a decent number of fights back in the days of my misspent youth. Being sucker punched is an entirely different experience. When your get punched unexpectedly from an assailant you didn't even see coming, it is disorienting. It's going to take you a minute for your brain to register what happened and identify the threat. He wasn't on guard. If the guy walked up to him in full view and punched him, and he didn't respond, that would have been one thing. But the guy literally came from behind a group of people standing to his side, outside of his field of view. He recovered very quickly but it's very clear from the video that by the time he realized what had happened, the shit eating antifa faggot was long gone.
Carson Butler
>I've known about this guy longer than most of you have been posting on this fucking board. I remember listening to him on Radix's Vanguard podcasts, tuning in mainly to broadcasts with the late, great Jonathan Bowden.
I also know about him since then m8, Im the OP
>he handed ANTIFA a massive PR win
bs pedro! LEft looked like muppets about that tone and many people left of center sided with him after that happened.
>Way too many coincidences
yep! The only confusion is, why he isnt sabotaging the movement - he had many opportunities...and HAILGATE happened after TRUMPS WIN. He could have done more provocation before if he really wanted to sabotage...
Jonathan White
Is FBI /our guys/? Maybe they think they can pull a Pinochet.
Easton Rogers
What the fuck britbong?
Your country is dying, you're invaded by mudslimes, they have taken over london, jews have been using the (inner) City of London for it's plans since the England Revolution in the 1600s. Churchill, along with his jew advisors used your military as cannon fodder. And look what they fought for? This shit hole? London will be a no go zone soon. You've been under occupation for so long, AND THE MOST WORRYING THING ON YOUR FUCKING MIND IS IF RICHARD SPENCER WAS DOING SOMETHING WITH BAD "PR" ON A LOCAL CONFERENCE IN USA.
WHAT THE FUCK DUDE. IM SO ANGRY RIGHT NOW
Lincoln Mitchell
dude they are all shills. every day there are 10 anti richard spencer threads with people saying "hes controlled OP" "He's FBI, CIA" "He's a pussy he didn't fight back after getting punched" ect...
all day every day non-stop for months now
Samuel Evans
>dude they are all shills. every day there are 10 anti richard spencer threads with people saying "hes controlled OP" "He's FBI, CIA"
Im not a shill bro, I just want to understand things...
>"He's a pussy he didn't fight back after getting punched" ect...
Ignore the pedro that is saying that, Left looked like fools after defending those antifa cuckcs, and RS handled the media attention about that punch perfectly.
Charles Baker
>AND THE MOST WORRYING THING ON YOUR FUCKING MIND IS IF RICHARD SPENCER WAS DOING SOMETHING WITH BAD "PR" ON A LOCAL CONFERENCE IN USA.
Yes, because I'm talking about Richard Spencer and not Rotherham in a thread about Richard Spencer I clearly don't see that there is a problem in my country.
WHAT THE FUCK SVEN? YOUR COUNTRY IS FAR MORE KEKED EVEN THAN MINE AND YOUR BIGGEST WORRY IS WHAT SOMEONE ON Sup Forums THINKS OF RICHARD SPENCER?!
William Jackson
I don't even follow fancy spency but all of this shilling over almost nothing is starting to make me think maybe I should. Smells like JIDF being scared.
Camden Taylor
>bs pedro! LEft looked like muppets about that tone and many people left of center sided with him after that happened.
"If you let your enemies punch you with impunity, you win!"
Jace Wright
>"If you let your enemies punch you with impunity, you win!"
this is a different situation, right already won and punching us creates zero damage to our cause (other that a few bruises) but it makes left look like frustrated savages as it did with Berkley. how old are you anyway?
Carter Sullivan
It's going to depend largely upon his response in the near future. Taking a few unprovoked punches is not a bad thing if you eventually respond with security that will beat the fuck out of Antifa faggots near you. If you keep high energy thugs around you from the start, people will accuse you of inciting violence. If you take a few punches beforehand, people will see it as a necessary response to the constant danger of being assaulted....and now you have your own little SA in the works.
Just speculation, but I hope he starts using security personnel.
Carter Jackson
most of the interviews of him on youtube are decent
Daniel Price
Richard Spencer actually brings up Rotherham and does what he can to defend YOUR peoples.
And yes, Sweden is in incredibly bad shape. I won't compare the two but safe to say we're both kind of fucked. I worry about it every day, and I feel guilty for not doing enough even though I'm organized in national movements.
Brody Myers
What do I tell the barber to get this haircut?
Jose Gomez
Why conspiracy theorists always mix "he is a fed!" stuff with "He is in just for the money!" stuff ?
Its obviously either one thing or the other, and Richard is neither.
Dylan Richardson
Richard Spencer is a fag but Cuckold Filth is even worse.
Christopher Sullivan
Lmao if he came here for the money he's in the wrong fucking political movement. He's here because he has money to waste and doesn't need any more.
Austin Rodriguez
pretty interesting because most people have no idea who he is or what his ideas are and I don't think he knows what he wants to do.
All these e-celebs have their pros and cons, the only non cuck in this shit tier movement was Natt (RIP).
Samuel Johnson
>Its obviously either one thing or the other, and Richard is neither.
doesnt look that way, he definitly seems like a FED who is also /ourguy/...that is the only logival explanation judging on his actions.
Damigo and Gage are both ex military btw, and unlike Spencer, are on the right from only recently
Matthew Campbell
>eloquent, handsome, dresses properly, literally none of these apply to Dick Spencer. He's a goofy lurch with a gay haircut, a low-t bitch face and a seemingly total lack of self-awareness. He wears pepe frog pins for christ's sake and even attempts to explain the meme to media members. If anything he's not a spook but a fucking aspie.
Eli Fisher
Who is Joe Owens and why does he suddenly come up regularly?
