Stop pretending to value liberty and just come out of the closet as fascists already.
That goes especially for you "Hoppean" memers. The guy is literally the definition of a crypto-fascist.
>liberty for all except those I don't like >also I worship a Chilean dictator
You are kidding yourselves.
Alexander Green
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Cooper Edwards
Libertarinism is based on a premise of objective morality, which does not and cannot exist, hence libertarianism is nonsense.
Alexander Long
t. never read Hoppe
You haven't read a single of his books I bet.
Cameron Gray
>objective morality doesn't exist
Wrong, you've been cucked by dark occultists
Dylan Adams
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Bentley Jackson
Saying something is "wrong" is not an argument. Let's see you prove objective morality without appealing to Gods (appealing to Gods makes your case even more silly, by the way, since you then also need to prove the existence of God).
Adrian Carter
>objective morality doesn't exist
Jaxon Fisher
Is AnCap the master race?
Tyler Martin
Libertarian society is only maintainable in white societies.
Discuss.
Cooper Miller
If you could not objectively assert that you are the sole and exclusive owner of your body (including your vocal chords) you could not even attempt to engage in argumentation without becoming entangled in a performative contradiction.
Caleb Moore
The existence of God is self evident in our free will and the laws that govern reality to make it what it is, and don't think I'm at all advocating religious mockeries of God.
Jayden Butler
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James Hall
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Hunter Turner
Hey
Ian Davis
That's not an argument, just a baseless assertion stemming from your own particular bias. Ownership is an abstraction that doesn't exist in reality. And yes, we often have to delude ourselves with various ideas in order to function in society, but that doesn't mean those ideas exist objectively.
Jacob Anderson
This. Damn conservatives or libertarians who say "muh rights come from God". There are so much better arguments which don't require God.
Luke Roberts
huwhite Hoppe utopia when?
Parker Barnes
>ownership is am abstraction that doesn't exist in reality >ownership in one's body is intersubjectively ascertainable by virtually every person including primitives
>ownership is abstract >but I own my body to be able to write this down :^)
Hunter Lopez
Soon my fellow huwhite person. Interestingly enough, Jared Taylor reviewed Democracy The God That Failed
Wyatt Diaz
Yes, this is why we oppose fascism. I am the highest power and only I will secure a future for myself and my loved ones.
Carter Jackson
But...but...you are...egoist !!! That's bad
Christopher Ramirez
Naturally, white people would want to live with other white people, blacks with blacks, jews with jews etc... and without any welfare system, all the low IQ races would not be able to leech off of other people. most societies would naturally be mostly exclusive to one race.
Jackson Gonzalez
Capitalism has some flaws. For example, if you import enough people, you can simply drive down living standards. People get paid less unless the economy grows with the population growth. Even if it grows, you still have to deal with increased density and living in apartments instead of houses.
Angel Lopez
Finally, you realise that existence is one massive contradiction.. Now you should stop reading libertarian hacks and read real philosophers like Nietzsche, Heidegger, and Kierkagaard.
Liam Cook
Relativism is for slaves, it blinds you to the objective nature that governs the reality we all share.
Logan Harris
Just pay $5 for a website where you host personal information on every ANTIFA faggot you can find.
Data collection should probably be crowd sourced from a collection of volunteers.
Blake James
t. "left-libertarian" When forcing people to deal with people even if they don't want isn't authoritarian.
Jason Bailey
Fascism is the way forward.
Whites will not survive without it.
Josiah Martin
It revolves around self ownership. If you don't want to talk ethics, you could take up things from there and still be libertarian light.
Lucas Mitchell
Relativism is the basis of human existence. However, that does not mean we shouldn't construct narratives and ideals. We have to, otherwise we can't live.
Joseph Morales
*boards helicopter*
Jordan Davis
Is Jeffrey Tucker solely responsible for the association of bow-tie with ancapism?
Noah Sanders
how is that a flaw of capitalism? just don't import niggers you retard. >believe in nothing acomplish nothing.
Levi Ward
Nope, individuals may not always have a perfect understanding of objective reality, but collectively over time we put the puzzle pieces together to be able to judge what objectively is and isn't. No opinion can change natural law, if you walk in front of traffic you will be hit and killed. Objective reality is very real and so is natural law which is the basis of reality for what it is.
Jace Sanders
Yes. It is a flaw of capitalism as the sole mechanism of societal control. More of a complaint about libertarianism.
Michael Martinez
>>believe in nothing acomplish nothing.
I didn't say that you should believe in nothing. Nor would any relativist or existentialist. You should construct your own meaning, while at the same time accepting that it's objectively meaningless, simply a narrative you tell yourself.
Lincoln Collins
No Sargon, biology is the basis of human existence. So reproduction is objectively what people are objectively designed for. Relativism is for retards who think they are smarter then they are.
Ian Martin
Don't let them in then, if they can't afford, they won't go, immigration wouldn't be a problem.
Hard mental dissonance.
Nolan Reyes
Who imports those people and why would I be forced to associate with those people in a free society formed by different private, covenant-based communities?
Brandon Cox
I am not arguing against the existence of objective reality (the objective world), I'm arguing against the existence of objective values (human abstractions, particularly related to how one should live or behave).
As for walking in front of traffic and being hit and killed, that's only meaningful at the level of human existence, your death is irrelevant at the scale of the universe.
Jaxon Flores
That would definitely work if things were arranged in that way.
Jacob Rodriguez
Today you are white. Good job.
Daniel Jones
>So reproduction is objectively what people are objectively designed for.
But that isn't a human invented abstraction, is it? Maybe you're the one that thinks you're smarter than you are, since you don't understand my position, yet shoot your mouth off with 100% certainty.
Ryan Sanchez
Only people who are willing to work and contribute to society are going to survive in a libertarian society. Even if somehow some shadow organisation forcefully imports niggers, they will have to work just like everyone else or leave.
Carson Flores
But you could say that about any economic system, if you import more people then the system can handle it should surprise no one that the living standards go down.
Jack Stewart
Is /lrg/ the only thread on Sup Forums with actual political discussion?
Easton Reyes
Natural law is objective morality, and the concept that we can't know what is objectively right and wrong is a programmed abstraction
Jack Jones
It doesn't matter if they work though. If more people exist, it means the supply side of the wage price changes. Unless there is more demand, wages will go down.
Nicholas Peterson
This and my Hoppe General
Leo Foster
If you guys would stop being stop being such flaming faggots it would be a lot easier to crush communism as allies.
Nolan Wood
People have tried to prove the existence of natural law since before Socrates and nobody has managed to do it, in fact, really smart people realised it wasn't possible, unless you shoehorn in deities (which require a suspension of disbelief).
Ayden Roberts
You wouldn't because this means that you can live as a free man and enjoying your personal property without damaging others
Anthony Walker
>your death is irrelevant at the scale of the universe. Then everything is irrelevant, but why do you care about others lifeless planets? We don't value chickens as human, stick to the immanent world, dumb brit.
Evan Evans
apparently more people = more demand = more supply
Nathaniel Myers
Morals have a basis in biology. Why else would humans have developed morals if they were not biologically advantageous? Living in a group where the members don't kill each other over food is advantageous to you and your genetic offspring. It's why lesser primates have rudimentary ethics. They will for the most part not kill one another over nothing. Sargon, why are you such a relativist one minute and a moralist the next?
Andrew Price
This is not true if the immigrants produce their own income.
Sebastian Myers
>Claims objective morality doesn't exist >Makes a normative claim
Alexander Morris
Looks like yes Commie general is shitposting NatSoc general is singlejerking On this thread we have real discussion We /patrician/ nao
Christian Martinez
Dude, you're an alright guy and i would work with you. I'm just not going to suck the fuhrers dick. I will not bow to any arbitraitor.
Cameron Howard
Natural law has been known for ages, but it's been hidden to control people like you. The relativism you're fed is to keep you enslaved.
Charles Mitchell
We have a basis in biology to construct abstractions, obviously, but that doesn't make those abstractions objectively real.
Brody Phillips
Just don't send the SS because I disagree with you on some issues and it's fine
Levi Martin
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Charles Hall
True but we all know with a welfare state that rarely happens
Camden Davis
yeah that too. I've only seen one edition, i'd like to see more
Dylan Wilson
>Then everything is irrelevant Yes, anything beyond physics, chemistry, and biology has no objective meaning, but that does not obstruct the construction of subjective meaning.
Jordan Cooper
> more people = more demand = more supply
That isn't how it works exactly. More people, but they need money. Especially if they are from poorer countries, they will not consume as much. They will also increase house prices, which does not increase employment levels all that much.
Daniel Nelson
I get what you say but it practice it's a lot different. You won't bring about a Hoppetopia with a top down approach. Governments are monopolies and just like every monopoly they won't just disappear without a fight. If Fascism returned libertarians would absolutely be crushed as well. This is why we must endorse a bottom-up revolution by supporting separatist movements, secession, anti-democracy demonstrations, political humiliations, identitarian and nationalist uprisings, etc. We must ridicule the state and itsee agents and give back the power to the people. Read "What Must be Done" by Hoppe. It's a short read, less than 20 pages.
Brody Kelly
I've only made two or them so far but only the last one had the FAQ section and a high number of memes and discussion. Would be nice if any of you guys just copy pasted the template for the thread and make them more often.
Nolan King
So is all animal behavior subjective then? Instincts are subjective then?
Jeremiah Lopez
Your people make the wealth, invite niggers, they live under welfare state. Thats sounds like a retarded plan.
>Yes, anything beyond physics, chemistry, and biology No, everything. You're discussing the realm of the dead things. I don't know how to further this discussion. Don't be this reatarded, nihilist.
Sebastian Nguyen
If they are not going to consume as much, they will not need as much money. Capitalism adjusts itself according to society, not the other way around.
>> They will also increase house prices, which does not increase employment levels all that much.
Land mass isnt really an issue. Plus building and maintaining a house is pretty expensive
David Baker
>libertarians think removal of communists will magically make their fantasy world be a reality I really hope you're a teenager and not an actual adult holding these views.
David Evans
Nevar forget
Jason Lewis
>statists think giving the right man some power will magically make everything perfect
you can literally say this about any ideology
Benjamin Rivera
Sounds good to me, dude.
Carson Wright
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Jace Hernandez
>when the OC you made 4 years ago gets resposted
Matthew Morales
Anti-com is a great thing
Brody Barnes
You trigerred /leftypol/ to do a commie version of your pic Good work m8
Joseph Clark
I'm not a nihilist.
Leo Gutierrez
bump
Daniel Smith
The world really needs a Triple-H Physical Removal Treatment