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卐 - NATSOC ECONOMICS EXPLAINED ------------------------------- >One of the most plagued questions we get when talking about Fascism is economics, normally brought up by people still stuck in a liberal mentality and limited scope of perception, where everything is defined in term of social and economic policies, rather than principles derived from the notion of a singular Truth and Order that dominates the world. The variety of historic economic plans and practices maintained by various champions of our Struggle likewise distorts any comprehensive answer to the question. All in all we've simply answered people that economics are secondary, they don't matter in such a way as to be a fundamental and defining element of Fascism. The answer didn't change, however there is now a way in which we can describe this attitude to economics, and it's actually a word we've used repeatedly in reference to Fascism anyway: Socialism.
>Our Socialism, however, is not in of itself an economic system, it is not the Socialism of Marx and co and stands in direct opposition to both Communism and Capitalism. It would be more accurate to say that to Fascism, Socialism is the definitive social structure which is more comparable to the structures of Individualism and Collectivism, yet it stands in opposition to those two structures as well.
>“’Socialist’ I define from the word ‘social’ meaning in the main ‘social equity’. A Socialist is one who serves the common good without giving up his individuality or personality or the product of his personal efficiency. >Our adopted term ‘Socialist has nothing to do with Marxian Socialism. Marxism is anti-property; true socialism is not. Marxism places no value on the individual, or individual effort, of efficiency; true Socialism values the individual and encourages him in individual efficiency, at the same time holding that his interests as an individual must be in consonance with those of the community. All great inventions, discoveries, achievements were first the product of an individual brain. It is charged against me that I am against property, that I am an atheist. Both charges are false.” - Adolf Hitler 1938
卐 - FASCIST/NATSOC MOVIES: --------------------------- The following link contains 26 Third Reich movies (One from fascist Italy, one from occupied France). All are good quality DVDRIP (x265 codec) and all have English subtitles.
List and genre: >Bismarck 1940 Biopic, Historical >Condottieri 1937 Historical, Adventure (Fascist Italy) >Das Herz Der Königin (The Heart of the Queen) 1940 Anti-British, historical >Der große König (The Great King) 1942 Biopic, historical >Der Kaiser von Kalifornien (The Emperor of California) 1936 Anti-greed, historical >Der Sieg Des Glaubens (The Triumpth of the Faith) 1933 NSDAP propaganda
卐 - MYTHS ABOUT NATSOC (Part 1) >"National Socialism is just (((socialism)))"
Marxist (Left) socialism and National (Right) Socialism are "antipodal zeitgeists engaged in dialectic". That's a fancy way to say they're opposite ideologies designed to clash, like Yin and Yang.
NatSoc was fundamentally an ideology built around race, while Marxist socialism was entirely different: built around class. Hitler aimed to unite the right and left, including workers and their bosses, into a new German nation based on racial identity. Socialism, in contrast, was a class war between workers, bosses, and owners (Capitalists), aiming to build a workers state in which race and gender were insignificant. Socialists, especially Marxist socialists, were anti-religious atheists, whereas NatSoc went so far as to make Christianity the religion of the state.
The differences go on and on: Marxist socialism was internationalist, NatSoc was nationalist. Marxist socialism was egalitarian, whereas NatSoc believed that nature was unequal and required competition. Marxist socialism wanted to nationalize all private industry, while NatSoc privatized every major industry except the railroads (it considered these a military asset. In fact, Hitler once joked "they didn't need to nationalize property because they nationalized people". NatSoc drew on a range of pan-German theories, which wanted to blend Aryan workers and Aryan magnates into a super Aryan state, which would involve the eradication of class-focused socialism as a non-German ideology.
Zachary Davis
卐 - MYTHS ABOUT NATSOC (Part 2) >"National Socialism is just (((socialism)))"
NatSoc redefined socialism as "Germanism/Volkism", which they saw as "producer-oriented capitalism", as opposed to "Jewish capitalism", aka, international finance, globalism, wall street, etc. In theory, NatSoc economics was a version of Keynesianism, tailored to the Völkisch nature of whichever people adopted it. Its not one dogmatic economic system,and Hitler often joked that the lack of a specific ideology was their strength. NatSoc could be more "free market" as Americans know it, or less. But NatSoc is always in favor of the Volk over economic identity, of "producer capitalism" over "finance capitalism".
Hitler tried to clarify the distinction in 1938: >“’Socialist’ I define from the word ‘social’ meaning in the main ‘social equity’. A Socialist is one who serves the common good without giving up his individuality or personality or the product of his personal efficiency. >Our adopted term ‘Socialist has nothing to do with Marxian Socialism. ((((Marxism))) is anti-property; true socialism is not. ((((Marxism))) places no value on the individual, or individual effort, of efficiency; true Socialism values the individual and encourages him in individual efficiency, at the same time holding that his interests as an individual must be in consonance with those of the community. All great inventions, discoveries, achievements were first the product of an individual brain. It is charged against me that I am against property, that I am an atheist. Both charges are false.”
卐 - MYTHS ABOUT NATSOC (Part 3) >"National Socialism / Fascism was a failed system"
It's intellectually dishonest to label something that was forcibly crushed a "failed system", implying that a nation bombed into collapse during war is comparable to a system imploding politically during peace-time. The Soviet system failed, as did the Roman Empire, and every Chinese or Ottoman dynasty. Some of these examples of government lasted thousands of years, while some didn't last more than a generation. All forms of government inevitably fail. This has been true since ancient times. Polybius famously articulated this process of Anacyclosis: social organization paradigms rise, fail, and give way to further systems. This is the cycle of history.
Fascism is not a failed system, it was a defeated system: A.) it was not an economic system, but a social one; B.) the so-called "failed system" had a control group: the US. Germany, Italy, and the US were operating under Keynesean policies; only one of them won the war, and experienced a massive period of growth once their industrial rivals were destroyed. So no, it wasn't a failed system, because both sides were using it, including the side that won.
>Lebensraum: 'Lebensraum' is often intentionally exaggerated by those wanting to push the fractal "Hitler planned to exterminate all races" meme. The actual meaning of Lebensraum referred to the security of the German borders, and the need to provide living space so that Germans aren't threatened by outside forces. To claim that "living space" meant solely "to exterminate and re-populate more land than there would have been Germans to inhabit, for several generations after the war" is absurd, and contradicts the policies of "Germanization" that were ACTUALLY PRACTICED by the Germans regarding their Slavic allies:
Hitler didn't consider Russians subhuman. He considered them inferior. Because in terms of living, they were. Seriously, look at the living style of the average Soviet, then compare them to a German in 1930, they were, by all accounts inferior. He even talks about how some Russians of the old rich class were Germanic. There were multiple reasons for the invasion of the Soviet Union, for example: >1. To gain the necessary resources to fuel a long time war, something that Germany was severely lacking. >2. To prevent the inevitable invasion of Europe by the Soviet Union. If you gonna start a war, it's best to have the first strike. >3. To disband the Bolshevik and Jewish regime in the Soviet Union, something Hitler knew would be a threat to Germany.
True, the Germans would've gained land from defeating the Soviets and would certainly have sent its citizens into this newfound land, just like the allies did to German clay they gained after WW1 and WW2. The Germans wouldn't have exterminated Russians. They simply would have governed them.
Austin Peterson
卐 - MYTHS ABOUT NATSOC (Part 5) >generalplan ost: 1. There is absolutely no proof of Generalplan Ost ever existing. 2. Hitler would have been fine with a path through the Polish Corridor (pic 1). If Poland had agreed to the terms then there would have been no war. 3. Germany did not massively blob into Eastern Europe like wiki suggests, they had very clear borders(pic 2). The eventual goal was to set up puppet states, not wipe out the populace. 4. If the plan was to exterminate Slavs, then why were there no camps for that purpose? The deaths in Eastern Europe are from starvation and warfare, not extermination. 5. Plenty of Slavs fought alongside Germans in the Russian Liberation Army, SS Galician, and others.
Well, I think that's most of the """rares""" from my folder
Logan Hughes
>tfw you realize that natsoc is the redpilled ideology but then you remember that the Austrian autist wanted you enslaved
Jonathan White
meme photos :D
Colton Campbell
:(
Connor Lopez
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Julian Morales
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Julian Turner
Slavs will be spared in the Fourth Reich.
Charles Hill
National Socialism.
>Socialism
Close enough. Onto the helicopter you go.
Luis Anderson
Do you guys like the soundtrack from TGNT? I did, but I felt a lot of it seemed too heavy, I couldn't find the sad violin music that occurred in the early episodes when speaking about Stalin and the Battle of Stalingrad.
William Watson
Only the grills
Easton Baker
Wow, Reddit is really taking over. Not sure if I have anymore memes of Mr. Hilter
Liam Roberts
I guess that's it. Please answer if anybody could find that music! :)
John Sanders
I'm okay with that.
Sebastian Robinson
My issue is you're too far left. Again, free helicopter rides for you all.
Easton Perry
Bump.
Hudson Wright
>Using Pinochet memes >Hurr fascism is 2 far left xD Please, please kill yourself.
Elijah Brown
>he fell for the left vs right mwme
Jonathan Williams
oh hey, creator. Can you give me your full resolution version of pic related.
Ryan Scott
hurry up, faggot
David Foster
Bampen
Asher Johnson
I like how the pigeon has recently been targeted by the media and associated with nazi's i think we should endeavor to take each and every innocuous symbol and make it ours so that everything means nazism and eventually the swastika will be as tranquil on the liberals eyes as the smiley face was before we made it the new swastika...
Jordan Moore
Guys what do i do i completely sperged out last night about the Muslims and low birthrates etc. What do i do ?
At least they dont have modern values which make relationship impossible
Joshua Edwards
Only if she looks like this.
Cooper Perez
True that senpai
Just saying, I know a fuckton of dudes who settled down with Asians and their kids are mongrels, same with white chicks who got with asians, even half asian dudes, their kids still are fucking disgusting.
For the love of God almighty don't dilute your gene line lad. It's hard, but its worth it when you finally find her
Colton Stewart
These threads never fail to put a smile on my face.
Sieg Heil.
Aiden Campbell
She isn't a soldier she studies
I'm not thinking about having kids anyway I'm only 22
Carson Russell
Soon.
Good, get your career stable first, make sure you are financially sound in order to raise the healthiest and happiest family possible
Thomas Fisher
Agreed, croatbro
HAIL VICTORY
Gavin Kelly
we are on your side faggot
Kayden Miller
is this a new op pastebin? great work whoever compiled all of this!
14/88
Levi Cruz
First vid is broken
Elijah Nelson
What do you mean by soon. HOW LONG. People have been saying soon on here since I can remember back in 2009
Bentley Russell
Yes it's pastebin.
Sorry?
Economic collapse? Or demographic tipping point.
Carson Rivera
It has been a work-in-progress for years now m8, include whatever you feel is relevant
Hail Victory
Lincoln Sanchez
HEY FUCK YOU GUYS WHY DO YOU HATE FREEDOM SO MUCH
WHY DONT YOU MOVE TO SAUDI ARABIA IF YOU HATE WOMEN AND FREEDOM SO MUCH????????????????????????????? Sup Forums IS LITERALLY CONSIDERED DEGENERACY BY THE MAINSTREAM
ALL YOUR HOBBIES LIKE SHIT POSTING AND VIDEO GAMES WILL DISSAPEAR UNDER A FASCIST REGIME
YOU GUYS ARE KEKS
MMMM YEAH I WANT A POWERFUL WHITE MAN TO FUCK ME IN THE ASS WHILE I LICK HIS BOOTS AND CARRY HIS WATER
FUCK YOU ALL TO HELL AND BACK AGAIN AND THEN BACK TO HELL FUCK YOU
LIBERTY CANNOT BE STOPPED IT WAS WHAT THIS COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED UPON
YOU WILL NEVER WIN FREEDOM WILL ALWAYS PREVAIL
NO MATTER HOW BADLY YOU LEGISLATE FREEDOM AWAY PEOPLE WILL FIND A WAY TO PURSUE HAPPINESS HOWEVER THEY SEE FIT WHETHER ITS A NEEDLE IN THEIR ARM OR HOOKER IN THEIR BED YOU ALL WILL FAIL EVERYTIME YOU TRY WE JUST GET STRONGER
FASCISTS ARE WORSE THAN LIBERALS LITERALLY YOU GUYS AREW WORTHLESS AND SHOULD MOVE TO SAUDI ARABIA SO YOU CAN LICK THE PRINCE'S SHINY OIL STAINED BOOTS
