>Friendly reminder that the goal of the EU is the creation of a superstate that will be the next superpower of the world.
>America is failing, and everyone knows it. They have neither the population nor the will nor the long-term wealth to continue
>China has a massive population and long-term wealth
>Only a unified Europe would have a similar population and long-term wealth
>Only a unified Europe will have liberal western values
>The destruction of the EU, will not change the fact that the USA will collapse, and will collapse soon.
>"But I hate refugees" is a awful reason to throw your children's futures away. More low wage labor is needed until widespread automation around 2100. 5-10% assimilated minorities are not a problem for a functioning state. They also make good food.
>Without the EU, China will become the superpower, and the well-being of humanity will be set back 1000 years and we will be flung into another dark age.
>Russia would attempt to compete, but their time is even more over than USA, further cementing the dominance of China for the next 3-4 centuries, and the decline of all humanity if Europe is splintered in to fractured groups along with a balkanized America.
>t. An American who can face the facts
The European Union Must Survive, and Strengthen
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Kill the EU.
Anyone who supports it deserve to be hung the nearest lamp-post.
>wanting a united states of europe
fuck off this god awful place and everything (((they))) claim it to be cant die quickly enough
fuck off
>The EU must survive
absolutely not
>want to advance europe into a bright, enlightened future
>replace population with most backward culture and religion
>what do they mean by this?
Fuck the eu, replace it with fair trade deals.
Create a Insanity Military alliance. If any member state is attacked/subverted or any other harmful act done towards them, genocide the offender.
Fuck off.
It'll just be the same thing, all the poor states will immigrate to the richer countries while the richer countries plough billions into corrupt governments and no countries improve and we all march together into a complete shitfest
Off yourself.
> friendly reminder there is no cultural common ground among the many nations
> all global civilization is failing, if america goes, so goes every other economically connected piece
> throw YOUR children's future away
Wrong. I wish to throw their children's future away instead of our own.
> 5-10% is not a problem. So don't let increase by immigration and affirmative action type policy
> current extinction event, imminent global market crash, net energy decline, catastrophic level soil erosion, increasing climate diruption - there will be no nations in 2100, doubt there will be people to even hold a calendar to follow
i wonder what (((they))) mean by this?
I'd be in support of a white EU that tackled international threats like ISIS and China, but the EU is cucked and only exists to weaken states into further submission. The European Union should make the counties inside stronger, not weaker. Maybe if you plucked all the Jews out, it could be salvageable.
>the goal of the EU is the creation of a superstate
Gonna have to stop you right there.
what exactly is unfair about the single market you incoherent garbling mongoloid?
Disgusting, did they really pick that divine music as the anthem of their satanic plan?
>We want people who aren't elected and not accountable to the people to govern us and shove loads of people into our countries that are completely incompatible, mostly unemployable, refuse to assimilate, take over sections of major cities and make them unsafe, and are largely one gender to really fuck up the population on all fronts
>If we don't want this we are literally Hitler.
Kill the UE.
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>He fell for the automation meme
It will affect China more than anywhere else, since the industries are all concentrated there, leading to millions of unemployed gooks, with no perspective for the future on their country. Guess what many of them are going to do...
>Only a unified Europe will have liberal western values
thats pretty much the main reason why i fight against EU desu
your "liberal" western values are fucking garbage and belong in the trash
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quick and easy death is fine
Werner, you're confusing murican liberal values and classical liberal values.
Lange lebe der Gotteskanzler!
>China
>Gooks
Learn your terminology you uneducated, shithead.
>tfw incorrectly used racial slurs caused me to be triggered
>How to create a world power.
>1: Underhandedly rob the member nations of their law making power and sovereignty
>2: Import millions of violent minorities from countries that harbor terrorist extremists
>3: ?????
>4: Congratulations, you're suddenly a World Power!
Does Brussels really believe this or is this some kind of slide thread?
The guys who run the European Union are not elected and their agendas are not the well-being of the EU or its member states. Most people are deceived, but the guys we vote for to be in the European parliament basically just vote yes to laws written by oligarchs, or no until the law is rewritten to be voted yes.
Knowing that, the only way for the good of the European countries is out of this mess. An European superstate would not be such a bad thing eventually, as long as that state has the well being of its people in mind. Which is not the case obviously.
To be fair, the left has become so god damned deranged classical Liberalism is considered right wing now and everything right wing is considered fascism to libshits.
>"But I hate refugees" is a awful reason to throw your children's futures away.
>More low wage labor is needed until widespread automation around 2100.
>5-10% assimilated minorities are not a problem for a functioning state.
>They also make good food.
Literally everything about this is wrong. Kill yourself.
Ask Greece or Portugal that
nothing, it is the fact that it is tied to a whole autistic political edifice
as Donald Tusk et al never tire of telling us, "you cant have EU a la carte". you have to accept the whole autistic package that goes with it. and if you dont like that then fuck you, because the giant retarded political project known as the EU is apparently more important than general cooperation between the states of europe
I hope that this fucking zionist organization disappear in the next decadeas well as NATO, I want my country to stop sending money to shitholes in the east especially baltic states and Pooland
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EU "liberal values" boil down to a lot of moralfaggotry and whining about "human rights"
fuck off with that garbage
Shouldnt have left Germany fuck it all up then by basically using UE to make every other country their bitch.
This.
>Russia's time is over
Heard that shit for the last millennia. We're unkillable. Forever here to suffer, it seems.
It'll never happen because of language barriers;
Who'd want to willingly give up their native tongue? In the end it'd result in another war, though this time for "which language is best used?!"
do people actually believe this bullshit?
you will not become a "superpower" just because you let Germany own you.
It might work for america to unite nations like that but it doesn't work over here
I am sick of paying for poland.
You would be too
Ask yourself, how does one consolidate power?
Now you got an answer to your questions.
Im all for it , and i like the idea of a European union. But it cannot be led by FUCKING Germany or one country in general . The main problem of this is that people in Europe view themselves completely diffrent from each other unlike in the US or China , and ethnically and culturally they are.
>But it cannot be led by FUCKING Germany or one country in general
You only want Germany to provide for you fucking subhuman Slav-Turk
They are communists by nature
The idea that the person who does the most work and pays the most should have the most say is alien to commies.
Im actually polish and croatian which is the same anyway
>But it cannot be led by FUCKING Germany or one country in general
that's why the entire idea is doomed to failure and will end exactly like yugoslavia did.
someone will ALWAYS end up being in charge. in yugoslavia it was serbia due to having the biggest population and controlling the institutions. this made croats, slovenes and bosniaks butthurt.
in the EU it will either be germany (biggest economy, biggest population) or it will be france (strongest military, only nuclear power). germany being in charge will make mediterraneans butthurt (muh ruthless germans forcing evil austerity on poor med countries!) , france being in charge will make northerners butthurt (muh lazy southerners leeching off our hard earned money and squandering it!).
either way, it only creates further distrust and division over time. no amount of propaganda can overcome this, and it makes long term stability impossible.
Let's be honest, you're a rogue Russian Empire subject.
The EU must survive, but not as it is. Needs structural reforms, slashing of bueraucracy and an end to non-elected centers of power (like the Commission). EU Parliament should choose EU "government" (the replacement for the Commission).
Also the EU needs to stop importing fucking shitskin Arabs ffs we don't need fucking immigrants there are plenty of unemployed people in the EU itself who would work. Would you rather have Andrzej the polish plumber, who speaks English (even if poorly), is willing to work for money and has a less than 1% chance of being a terrorist; or do you want Abdul Aziz, the uneducated "refugee" who won't work, just wants gibs, doesn't give a shit about your culture and language, rapes women and has a reasonable probability of being a terrorist?
Exactly so who ever thought it was possible was an idiot and the faster the UE dies the better we will all be.
Spain should ally with the US even more and with south america, fuck you germans.
> the entire idea is doomed to failure
No its not if people stop being so stupid and making ''borders'' and being ''racist'' when pure races dont exist anymore and basically europeans are mixed with every ethnicity in the whole world. The fucking normies and beta males who are too stupid to think for themselves have always ruined good and productive ideas throught history . Racism shouldnt be based on ethnicity , it should be based on intelligence ( both logical and emotional) and the level of consciousness that a person has.
I still don't understand how putting millions of muslim immigrants into europe is somehow good for israel
> racism should be based on intelligence
You would be purged pretty fast.
The only reason to keep it is an economical union like the EEG was.
That and to keep Russia from pushing our shit in the first chance they get.
A fractured Europe means it's easy for the Russian Federation to take the Baltic States, take Georgia, take the whole of Ukraine, take Romania and Bulgaria, go to war with Poland and fuck up the Balkans again.
The question you need to pose is; Do you really want a weak Europe next to a strong Russian Federation?
The Union itsself isn't the problem. It is the plutocracy and extreme cultural marxism that occurs in European Parliament.
We don't need a downfall, we need a revolution.
So in other words, if Schulz wins, you'll get Russians at the gates of Berlin again.
Hey rabbi
>if people stop being so stupid and making ''borders'' and being ''racist''
you are delusional if you think that this is anything but a pipedream
>dude if people just stop being so criminal we dont need prisons or police!
This. Don't mistake the EU as being good for Europe or Europe's people, (((they))) want us gone or severely crippled in favour of cheap, foreign forces regardless of how many of us and our cultures must be sacrificed.
How does EU have anything to do with China you fucking imbecile? We mass-buy their trash.
The EU dropped the ball on the borders issue big time.
No borders INTERNALLY doesn't automatically translate to no borders EVER (except in the minds of indoctrinated leftists and useful idiots).
Schengen works only if the outer borders of the EU are fucking Fortress Europa.
Truthfully, I don't know how to consolidate power.
But throwing your power base into a violent civil war wouldn't be among my first ideas.
and go the same way as the us?
multikulti melting pot with a clearly first world murder rate yeah no thx senpai
lol says a gypsy half turk hungarian
>it should be based on intelligence ( both logical and emotional)
what the fuck. Do you understand that the main threat of Muslims, to give an example, is not necesarilly that they are less intelligent, it's that that their entire mindset is alien compared to Europeans, and their ideology and spirit is getting stronger while Westerners are getting weaker?
The same could be said about chinks, but in that case they are indeed very intelligent. You could say you can ally with chinks but that doesn't mean they think the same.
Only a cuck would deny cultural differences the necessity of borders btw.
>China will become the superpower, and the well-being of humanity will be set back 1000 years and we will be flung into another dark age.
no amount of investment will ever satisfy you huh
The EU can not survive even if we'd want it to. The foundation is flawed so the building will crumble. The EU, in it's current state, will not live to see the 2nd half of this century.
It would be better to quit now and begin anew, this time with a solid foundation.
The point is : we are all people , and we are all the same in reality.Muslims and chinks maybe think differently because of how they were raised and how the mindset is in that part of the world , but they are still changable people just like you and me.
>Only a cuck would deny cultural differences the necessity of borders btw.
you are clearly retarded
To make us weak and controllable
>sick of paying to Poland
>not sick of paying to Israel, Africa and taking it up the butt for everyone who happens to have a non-white erection
> people are chaingable
To a limit. Our biological reality always prompts us to prefer kin over kith, and environmental differences and resources availability will always be a factor to drive human against human, compounded by cultural differentiation.
That is the reality we all live in. Unification is always done by coercion, and there always be people who resist giving up their valued identity. The day that is no longer true, we are culturally dead.
posted the wrong link tbqh
>we are all people , and we are all the same
kys
>Europe was built on history, America on philosophy
Do you really think you will see a unified Europe in your lifetime without extremist uprisings, civil wars and rebellions? The more Europhiles push for faster unification, the more people it currently alienates.
That is exactly why i think humans are not yet ready to have culture and created civilization when it was not yet time for it.The part of the brain responsible for animalistic evil desires is called the ''reptilian mind'' . Humans should have evolved and replaced or obsolated the reptilian mind before creating civilization.
>eu map
>switzerland part of the eu
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
This literal fucking wall of text
OP we're sending you to keep the Mexicans out
g-good luck
go back to osf and circlejerk with soros you piece of garbage
Switzerland has to bend over backwards because it's surrounded by EU members.
Didn't you lot just yesterday make it easy for people to immigrate? A slippery slope.
>animalistic evil desires
>evil desires
Like providing resources primarily for your own offspring and family instead of some free-loader parasites?
Fuck off shill.
> racism should be based on intelligence
>You would be purged pretty fast.
not only that youre a half turk gypsy hungarian but youre pretty stupid too and also probably beta male .
>gypsy hungarian talking about how poeple are not the same
>mfw
I would rather join russia than joining an European superstate
You are very stupid
The reptilian brain is what keep us alive, you need to learn to control it which is called civilization.
I am not the same hungarian. Different IDs.
Also, a libercuck like you calling anyone a beta is pure irony :D
yes yes now gib more gibs
> animalistic evil desires
tagging something evil, just because you don't like it is pathetic. Your own existence is dependent on that structure. Don't like? Kill yourself.
> humans should have evolved
Evolution is not a process you controll, simply a phenomena describing adaptation (all, not only biological) through change.
Civilization was a consequence of the 'intelligence explosion brought by tool making, improving communication capabilities and extreme metabolic force multiplier, fire.
It is not a question of choices, our reality is statistically deterministic through entropy - i.e. the are many ways but they all lead to the same place.
muslimanski izrode
That is what (((they))) want. Look up the Kalergi plan.
Don't be ridiculous if America falls so goes China and pretty much other economies that are linked to the US. But China in particular owes all its wealth from the crappy trade deals from the 70's through 90's that tossed American manufacturers and workers under the bus.
The only reason America was losing wealth and influence in the first place was because of pro-globalism and anti-nationalism policies. Now that Trump is pushing the US back to the policies that made America wealthy in the first place.
EU is the cancer of Europe
>flood Europe with non-europeans
>cause massive economic strife by bringing rich and poor countries together under a common currency
>cause huge social upheaval by allowing freedom of movement between poor countries and rich ones
>erode national identities while doing little to promote or celebrate a common European heritage
>come up with the most convoluted republican shit-tier democracy that impedes all political process
>disregard referendums held by sovereign countries
>always push for further union by the back door
>obstruct trade arrangements with the anglo-sphere and other first world countries
>only allow free trade on the condition that you open your borders
>run by (((europeans)))
This is not the way to a successfully united Europe. The EU must fall.
>animalistic evil desires
they are not evil in the sense of evil they are just primitive and only primitive people enjoy them (((you)))
kek?
Is that because China allows all those culturally-enriching refugees? They don't.
> they are not evil in a sense of evil
wew, that backpedalling
> primitive
aaaand another loaded, derogatory term.
number of argument steadily remains at zero
> doesn't agree with me, thus, he is a jew
ad hominem often considered as primitive
At least chinks burn muslims with flamethrowers.
Honestly though chinks are a pain. Their culture is shit and I wish it would leave.
Agreed.
EU has its problems but it's honestly the best we can do at the moment. Full federation would probably be preferable but there is way too much nationalistic butthurt going on even in the super liberal Western Europe, so it probably won't happen in our lifetimes.
Sup Forums knows how to bitch at the EU but can never propose any better solution to the problems Europe (minus Russia) is currently facing. Or they're trying to make Europe "great" by voting for far right lunatics who will fracture the continent even further.
i did the jew thing for the meme
>am really bored
>want drama
fuck you and your dead EU project, it dies and it dies soon and the sooner that happens the better, im sick and tired of all those unelected politicians playing gods and imposing their bullshit on simple working class people FUCK THEM FUCK YOU AND FUCK EU. pls die for supporting this shit
Try /r9k with that shit, please.
There is only one reason why EU is bad and why it will stay bad, and that's because it's governed by people who aren't Finns.
If we only get rid of all the subhuman foreigners in EU leadership positions and appoint a Finnish Khan instead Europe would enter a golden era never before seen, with strong borders, family values and white culture.
Cheers Sug
>it's honestly the best we can do at the moment
That is a very poor BEST in that case. They want to mongrelize us all into one.
This user gets it