My brother said white genocide wasn't real. I tried to argue with him, but sounded like a fucking idiot. Convince me...

My brother said white genocide wasn't real. I tried to argue with him, but sounded like a fucking idiot. Convince me, Sup Forums. Is white genocide real?

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Not literally, no.

>Is white genocide real?
Yes.

I'm still here, am I not

Whites have less than replacement birthrate + mass immigration = no white people in 100 years. Whats to not understand?

It is, don't listen to this guy

Not in the literal sense and it's not done on purpose. But ultimately, many of the policies in the West will replace whites by non-whites.

the definition of genocide i think

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Look up a fucking video on Jewtube. No one is going to convince you in a paragraph.

people always accuse americans of genociding the indians

but we didn't literally kill them, we bred them out of existence. so now every other white american says they're 1/16th cherokee.

also OP is disgusting satanist for having that photo, and just comes here to laugh at Sup Forumslacks

Go to Genocidewatch.org

Look up "Whites in South Africa"

boom, there you go

It is happening, simply site the divorce rates among white communities and the amount of men dropping out in those same communities. Look at how other populations are given welfare and subsidies compared to whites percentage wise.

Whites are being outbred because political parties are giving other groups incentives to retain a voting bloc.

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My brother agrees with this, but he says it can't be properly called a genocide because we're doing it to ourselves.

>Whites have less than replacement birthrate
They have control over this
>mass immigration
They've supported candidates who advocate open borders.

Need moar

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>sounded like a fucking idiot
GEE I WONDER WHY

It's just the cultural attitude of blaming the white man for the world's problems. It's a Marxist idea. If the bourgeois didn't exist, then everything would be fucking great. Replace bougeois with white. People don't understand that if you suddenly split up all the money so that everyone had the same amount, eventually winners and losers would be created and we would have the exact same social structure we have now.

Europeans tend to be the only racial group capable of genetic guilt or whatever. They feel as though they need to make up for the sin of their fathers, and that POCs cannot do it by themselves. They're racist as hell.

It's the anti-white sentiment that permeates Twitter, Kikebook, Hollywood, music, etc that people call white genocide, and genocide doesn't necessarily have to be violent. It can just be a societal pressure that results in a trend that lowers the birthrate and therefore population percentage of white people.

If he's retarded, it will probably just fly over his head, so don't even bother, m8.

>go to the store
>pick up banana
>#4011
>"hmm whats this number mean"
>genetically edited to epigenetically destroy whites

you have to be a literal potato to not see this. its everywhere.

If you can't fucking form coherent arguments then don't fucking argue. You are just going to hurt our position more you fucking imbecile.

no it isnt. there is no force applied whatsoever. it's "voluntary white extinction" if anything.
maybe we can call it "white autocide", or simply "white suicide"

But (((why))) are they so brainwashed that they support the replacement of themselves?

Who and what ideology controls the media?

Who and what ideology controls the schools and governments?

(((Cultural marxism.)))

>watch this 5 minute clip. It proves it.
No thanks, autismo.

Yea, I actually used the injun example. Literally, everyone in the midwest is part injun.

Well, yea, we all no white SAs are being genocided. I'm talking about Western Europe and NA.

Take my country for example.

You probably sounded like an idiot because you are an idiot. Now you want Sup Forums to convince you that it's real?
Why did you have an argument over a subject that you don't know about?
If you didn't know what you were talking about, why do you believe it yourself?

Sup Forums
>whites are masterrace

Also Sup Forums
>wahhh help supposedly sub-human niggers and Muslims are outsmarting us and taking over

Sup Forums is pathetic

top/explanation, its much easier to attack if you undo their fuckton of reframing and call it what it is.

you shouldn't really be struggling with how to attack marxism, op...

Domestic governments are actively participating in importing an uneducated, high brith-rate, cheap workforce, who vote left.

Picrelated is how the International Court defines genocide.

Why not look at the highest standard of living which is with white people. The culture of "working-hard" and being ultra productive means you won't have time to have a child or you don't want to simply because of costs.

This type of phenomenon is why minority groups have so many children. Their culture is based on family above all else. Job's come second which explains why their standard of living isn't equivalent to white peoples.

Remember Productivity = higher standard of living. This is an economic fact. So, to conclude this mess, you guys are committing genocide to yourselves because of your culture. You need to peddle back to the family culture where inheritance was of major importance and job's would let you take off because your kid got sick.

Then again Gaijins are being programmed to commit Seppuku.
So is this Murder or suicide?

Thanks for explaining it so cogently.

Show him this video. 45secs long.

>youtube.com/watch?v=0BvxvAmqXsg

Yes. White genocide is real. Whites are in the process of being dehumanized.

Hey, I guess it's just a coincidence all the original feminists were jewish?

Feminism is of course a big part of White genocide.

Our habitat is being taken over by foreigners that's genocide.

It isn't family culture, naturally other groups are r-breeders save several others. K-breeders have high investment parenting compared to r-breeders.

Government interference has fucked up that cycle. K-breeders still have to make ends meet while r-breeders procreate and are given aid to help procreate.

Not yet

You tell me mate, what does genocide look like. How is it measured? Seems to me that we can only conclude that white genocide has no basis in reality.

Good post.

Whereas I agree with your accusation of moral decay in the west, you're also being totally fucking primitive. More population growth is rapidly becoming a major threat to our species, and shit covered ooga booga savages breeding like rabbits needs to fucking stop.

The west needs to stop keeping the third world poor and fire up ye olde white man's burden again, drag the niggers and shitskins into the 21st century, by chains if we have to.

Genocide, privilege, violence, rape, none of these words have a fixed meaning any more. I mean, yeah, they're in the dictionary, but people have thrown them around until they're completely hollow. No one's roundng up white people and shooting them.

>blacks wuz kangz
>innocent blacks are being murdered en masse by racist police

It's not as black and white as it seems, and you not seeing that (contrary to others) shows you never leave the Sup Forums hugbox. When people here genocide they think of the (((shoah))) or holodomor. They don't think of a subtle, "self-inflicted" and voluntary genocide.

>the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group.
Sounds about right.

Wow you are a retard. Just ask him why formerly white countries are ALL being flooded with non-whites.

If you want to convince people your ideals are right, don't use fearmongering terms with negative connotations like "white genocide". You just sound like some autistic cunt from Stormfront.

An "anti-white agenda" is easily provable in different aspects of modern society. White genocide isn't unless you're a tinfoiler or you wanna bring up Rhodesia.

c and d, arguably.

Failing to keep a separate bloodline isn't genocide. Your genes are passed on, mixed with those of whoever you had kids with. That's how it works.

Just take the numbers of the white population non hispanic in the USA in 1980 and 2010 and compare them. In 1980 there were aprox 180 million white americans and in 2010 196 million white americans, that is an increase. But what liberals and white nationalists haven't taken in account is that the decreasing % in white population is due to massive immigration of non whites in non white countries. (You can thank Mexishits for this). Does white genocide exist? Depends where we are talking about, in the USA, no (for now). In sweden yes! Native swedes are actually decreasing in numbers, and the massive influx of non whites having interracial children is not helping the numbers to increase of whites. If the white population of the USA in numbers decreased then I would tell you it's going down.

That green arrow means it's going up in the USA. So no decrease in numbers. But the increase has been very slow compared to latinos. (Latinos believe less in abortion due to religion)

this touches on the very concept of "free will" and self-determination.

if a white german that has been told since birth that he has ebil nazi genes and that the world is fucked, if such a german "decides" to not reproduce, is it due to his own free will or because he has been nudged in that direction his whole life through concerted propaganda efforts?

are american voters "free", or is the political discourse dictated by the media, who in turn are owned by large corporations?
how much power does the populace really have in western-style capitalist-democracies?

Well yeah, it's either one of those. They don't all have to be enacted.

Genocide? Maybe.
A multi-generational social engineering campaign led by Hollywood, news media, and cultural Marxists that denigrates, emasculates, inculpates, and erodes any semblance of a racial or cultural identity of whites? Undeniably.

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do you have any idea how fucked up welfare is in your country? Families that are poor and mostly minority get separated due to welfare. You guys need to cut welfare spending and just hand them money instead of making weird as fuck rules like you must have to look for a job while getting this check or you must be making this amount of money to get this check.

These things almost have nothing to do with it minority groups wanting kids. It's in their culture that offspring is the purpose of existance and to see them succeed and have a better life than they have.

You are literally sitting on your computer, for sure not married or have any children, complaining with a guy half way across the planet while the father of some mexican child is working on someones lawn and the mother is taking care of 4 children and barely scraping it.

Bottom line is the culture is absolutely apart of having children. Look back in history in America. How many kids people had because a mother stayed at home and the father could take off etc etc. They didnt have the best standard of living but they sure had alot of children.

Good advice.

Also good to make it sound like you're on "their side".

>I agree with you Björn.
>It's also interesting how...
>[some red pills]
>Could just be a coincidence but...

You have to give them one pill at a time and let it sink in.

Guys in case there's any pro lifers here, that only helps the blacks. The liberals don't even want blacks anymore lol, they let them to shoot each other and want to abortion themselves away and have the hispanics come in to take their place in the ghettos.

this is also an important point that "white genocide" retards conveniently like to gloss over.

in a true genocide, mongrels go to the chambers as well.
there really is no such thing as white genocide currently, and using a term like that makes you look like a crass uneducated ass

He is being manipulated to do it. Again

>the deliberate [the jew] and systematic extermination [quite obvious] of a national, racial [White Europeans], political, or cultural group [White Europeans cultures].

It meets the definition of genocide.

I just provided proof in this thread, you ass.

Whites are not allowed to defend themselves as whites.

Nonwhites are encouraged to defend themselves as nonwhites, especially against whites.

White genocide is real. And the picture will become clearer in the future.

quality thoughts and flag. Thanks, terrorist-bro.

You should maybe do an AMA. Could be interesting.

The concept of free will no longer exists user all information fed to use are all lies. History has always been told by the winners, but whose to say that the winners were right though?

Free will lost it's meaning a long time ago. What it means to have free will now, is the ability to question everything you believe in.

We are falling in every demographic. Blacks and Hispanics target us for crime and all institutional laws give them advantages in hiring and school acceptance and pay compared to us and there is no plan to change this when we are the minority. They blame all their failures on being a minority group even though dozens of countries where they are a majority they have the same failures. We are shamed, insulted, and forced to endure totally false naratives about our history that demonize us, all while the government supresses us, makes us pay more in taxes than anyone, then turns around and brings in refugees, illegals, and literally pays blacks to have children on welfare.

Every trend from the government is aimed at reduci our numbers and growth rate while accelerating that of brown people. They ceebrate that whites will be forced to be a minority and think the institutionalized racia redistribution of wealth is good and should be expanded as revenge.

Whites are roughly 36% of the growth in the US right now. If you have a 5 yr old starting school then they are already a minority in their schools and get taught that their ancesors and prents are racist and evil.

This isn't a problem 100 years away it's a problem for our kids today. Every hear there are fewer of us and more of them. If we slip any more then conservatives in the US will fail and be forced to be another version of leftist socialism.

We have to reduce the hoards from entering the US or our people and civilization will not be recognizable by the time your kids graduate highschool. Brazil will be more white than the US and Germany.

We have to prevent that future. Everything good in the world, everything modern, it came from us. White failure would mean human stagnation.

>there really is no such thing as white genocide currently
You don't know the definition of genocide. It's doesn't just mean people getting killed in the streets.

Eventually it will not be sustainable, hence why the rules are needed. Just giving out money will lead to inflation and eventually more money is needed to buy basic goods.

Look at what happened after WWI if you want an example of what inflation does to the markets.

Also I am not married or have kids because I am from a divorce family (Family divorced when I was 3), I do not want my own potential kids going through worse shit than I did. After all, isn't that what you say for kids to have a better life than the parents?

youtube.com/watch?v=Ut5GveTsDbA

How am i being primitive? Really think about this. Of white people in upper class, middle class and lower class. Which one has the most children?

You know the answer, now ask, "why do they have more children?" Then re-read what I wrote. They won't be living the same life style as middle-class and upper class. Ooga Booga and hombres aren't tell you guys not to pro create. Most of you guys just have it good and don't see the point of having children due to unnecessary responsibility or the thought comes second hand due to a different culture.

No. Don't be fucking stupid. Multiculturalism and race mixing is ultimately good for the human race as a whole. We breathe the same air, have the same blood despite the color of our skin. Don't listen to the racist conspiracy retards

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight_stages_of_genocide

Really makes me think

post statistics of decreasing whites in relation to hispanics in Murica, and decreasing whites in relation to increasing arabs/middle-easterners in U.K, France, Germany, Sweden.

Also, point him to Kosovo, which had its Serb population systematically cleansed since the Ottomans.

You're welcome.

Who said anything about bloodlines?

Communal violence against whites is celebrated. They are literally digging up confederate graves and desecrating the dead. We are being kulak-ized.

This is becoming an old fashioned genocide. The cities are already becoming no-go zones for conservatives. Racemixing be damned. Start seeing the big picture.

Race is extremely subjective. The color of your skin has no more impact on your life than your blood type.

What matters is ideology and the culture and institutions that are built upon them. Americans have a very strict interpretation of what their ideology is: their constitution.

Millions upon million of Americans of every skin type have lived their lives trying to make a better place for their kids to grow up in. It is mere happenstance that the vast majority of those folks have pale skin.

The very fact that 650,000 thousand of those white people killed each other trying to make it so every person, regardless of skin color, is judged by the character of their actions instead of their looks points to the nobility of their intentions.

(I'm using modern interpretations of left vs right as it is in the US right now.)
Somehow the left is vilifying the people who built Americans who want to make their country strong. THEY, not the right, have made it so that people of color are victims, dispite the same opportunities and advantages their white brothers and sisters share.

Why? That's a complicated matter, but long story short a select elite wants to break down the noble population and replace them with foreign hordes that are cheap and easy to control. No white race (by whatever the left's definition it is that day) means no America.

Thankfully, The US has a president that will stop the madness.

Lol you have no idea what Marxist is. Communists believe racism is a byproduct of class warfare dipshit. There are many things wrong with the ideology but people who have no idea what the fuck they are saying ruin this board.

That's not true at all. If you hand people a basic income, they can buy BASIC necessities. If you believe in an open economy, while it may not be as simple as this, Bread = Profit if Revenue > Cost, right? Now if there is less bread, the price will go up, then people will look for substitutes and this will create markets eventually sustaining certain prices. They will still be poor, but they will have money to spend on necessities, for instance if they are sick, they can get health care, if they aren't they can possibly buy a care with the money.

Of course, you are right in saying that almost EVERYTHING has a trade off. This trade off, for now, is unseen but most people assume it'll be taxed on the rich (by not so much if you throw away all your shitty welfare programs which will remove government bureaucracy as well as the welfare program and cut down on defense).

Lastly, you proved my point in the last sentence. CULTURE

>stupid fuck thinks he can outbreed blacks

it doesn't matter if many whites support their replacement, or it's perfectly okay to eradicate minorities because the majority want it

>man your welfare system is shit
>you should better care of your illegals and refugees
>man stop destroying traditional families racists

alright, we'll stop giving welfare out then you fucking stupid piece of shit, god I fucking hope you step on a landmine you fucking piece of dog shit.

It's jewish assisted white suicide that uses shitskins

>have the same blood
Yeah what about IQ, nigger?

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poondhar, pls

>The color of your skin
Yeah that has nothing to do with anything, it's IQ and other traits.

If white genocide isn't real, then why are we denied a safe haven? No place is safe for whites anymore.

Is there anywhere that conservatives are allowed to gather and be themselves? That's not even allowed at Trump rallies. Hordes of angry nonwhites attacked and invaded those events. Conservatives are openly attacked by PoC who proudly broadcast their crimes.

White people are the largest group in America, but they stay in their houses and cars all day. Look outside the only whites you can see are panhandlers. White people feel vaguely under threat. Try to figure out why.

Not really, but a lot of countries that have high levels of immigration will go to shit in about 50 years and it happens to be all Western European/Anglo countries, despite these level of immigration being unpopular across the board. It's much more likely that there will be violent upheaval and either expulsion or possibly balkanisation than whites breeding out of existence. So most likely not genocide but bad shit.

And far FAR more black babies were aborted. Whites aren't having kids. Want to save the white race? Take off the condom.

I'm saying that you need to be more knowledgeable about your side of the argument.
A good place to start is to look up the definition of the word genocide.

"Generally speaking, genocide does not necessarily mean the immediate destruction of a nation, except when accomplished by mass killings of all members of a nation. It is intended rather to signify a coordinated plan of different actions aiming at the destruction of essential foundations of the life of national groups, with the aim of annihilating the groups themselves. The objectives of such a plan would be disintegration of the political and social institutions, of culture, language, national feelings, religion, and the economic existence of national groups, and the destruction of the personal security, liberty, health, dignity, and even the lives of the individuals belonging to such groups…. "

{from wiki}

Now that we've established the definition of the word we can see how it applies to us.

>If X is true, then how come Y?

Shill thread. And you write like a faggot OP. Kill yourself.

holy fuck! where did you go to school, lemme guess the "boinie sandas jihadi john school of economics"? cause none of what you just said is true, in fact, all of it is bullshit. I am praying everyday that all of you die, horrible burning deaths. preferably by nuke.

>My brother agrees with this, but he says it can't be properly called a genocide because we're doing it to ourselves.

Your brother sounds smarter than you. You should listen to him.

>and it's not done on purpose

No

Just deport, stop (((usury))) and close your borders. Don't get in a baby shitting war with shitskins

Just a pure coincidence goyim

i never said any of that, except that your welfare is shit. is it not?

>jew shill trying to spread the stupidity that is trying to outbreed blacks and then have wimin shit the lives of white men with alimony
Nope, you are not convincing anybody, Goldberg. The only way is to have them go back or kill them. 3 sons from a white family can't compete to the 10 illegitimate sons blacks have with 10 different wimin.

let's make three distinctions then:
1) hard genocidal acts - slaughter a people, death camps, rwds, mass starvation, etc.
2) medium genocidal acts - castrate/sterilize a people, put them in ghettos (to seperate from rest of population), take political power from them
3) soft genocidal acts - mass immigration, anti-ethnic propaganda, remove members of the group from positions of political power

ARGUABLY, the only thing that possibly happens currently, is 3), but even then there is no intent to exterminate "white people".
in fact, methods of type 3) are unable to completely eradicate a people, only reduce their demographic scope and influence

example: mari people under soviet rule
>During the Soviet Era, large numbers of ethnically Russian people were moved into traditionally Mari lands, significantly changing the demographics of the region, and making the Mari a minority in many parts of their homeland. Mari people were generally dis-empowered by these changes. What's more, Communist policies – officially aimed at combating undue influence of nationalism in a multi-nation union – in practice meant the murder of leading Mari figures, such as Sergei Čavajn and Olyk Ipai and other teachers, scientists and artists as well as religious and community leaders.[12][13]
youtube.com/watch?v=HsTACGVoNLw

the problem with calling these methods even "genocidal" is that they are unfit to truly eradicate a people. it's like someone punching you in the face and you call him a murderer.
it makes no sense

It's real

Soft Genocide Measures Promoted by American Eugenics & Planned Parenthood to reduce US population in 1969.

anti-fertility chemicals in the water, air, food

Modify tax policies
Postpone or avoid marriage (via master degree job requirements, economic crisis)

Encourage increased homosexuality
Educate for family limitation
Fertility control agents in water supply
Encourage women to work
Reduce/eliminate paid maternity leave
Reduce/eliminate social benefits

Chronic Depression (via crime rates, economic crisis, social isolation)
Require women to work and provide few child care facilities
Limit/eliminate publicly-financed medical care, scholarships, housing, loans and subsidies to families with more than N children.
Encourage increased homosexuality
Compulsory education of children

jaffememo.com/full-list-of-population-control-measures-listed-on-the-jaffe-memo/62.htm

>just an accident goyim

Smart man detected

Overpopulating the world hurts everybody

Nah, dude. You're ruining this board. Racism is a cultural Marxist divide and conquer tool. Regardless, it was a metaphor. I never said that death-to-whitey people were necessarily Marxists. Also, the idea of racism being a byproduct of class warfare is erroneous. Racism is a byproduct of biological/cultural in group preferences. When the rubber hits the road, people choose people that look like them over people that pay income taxes in the same bracket as them.