After class I got into a discussion with my economic professor. He dropped some fucking crazy thoughts on me, wanted to hear/pol/'s take.
He tells me the EU just tried to buy Italy's military. It wasn't about bailing Italy out. To be honest, I know nothing about this.
He then went further and told me the EU, much to the credit of conspiracy theorists whom are correct in this context, are trying to form a one country Europe, primarily under German control. He said they're peacefully achieving what Hitler couldn't.
So I asked what's their end game? Why do this, and why does it matter if it seems that's what Europe wants. I mean, nobody is fighting it.
He said the EU most in most likelihood wants us to engage Russia to both weaken the US and also to unite the EU as one country.
He said the plays economically are all in line with this outcome...a weaker US and a united one country EU with a united army to compete with the US and gain global dominance.
Seems pretty heavy, never heard a PhD educated professor drop alex hi Jones tier conspiracy. What say you Sup Forums?....Trump gonna save us before the EU forces us to fight Russia?
It's no surprise though that the globalists want a global government.
Luis Russell
economics are the last of the social sciences. something about it, hippies just couldn't turn it into slam poetry.
Brayden Richardson
>are trying to form a one country Europe, primarily under German control. He said they're peacefully achieving what Hitler couldn't.
>peacefully achieving
I don't see how importing ISIS is """peacefully achieving""" anything, but the rest makes sense.
I'm not a Bible fag, but I can't find anything that could be construed as pertaining to the American continent in Revelation. I don't think we'll be much of a player at the end of the show.
Bentley Green
He's brutal as a professor, but insanely brilliant. I left out some shit about France being in on it too, but I'm paraphrasing this shit. Caught me off guard. He said the EU military's path of least resistance is to eliminate Russia. Considering Pakistan is another issue, but highly unorganized and India's problem.
We didn't tslk about china's role in all this.
He seemed pretty concerned. I had never even thought about any of this before. I thought NATO was a bigger threat, but he claims the EU has this plan.
Hunter Cook
It's the closest thing we have to the psycho-history in Asimov's Foundation series. While people in other disciplines are screaming about slippery slope fallacies, the economist makes it his business to read the distant outcomes of ongoing trends.
Daniel Cook
You have not heard about the planned north american union with u.s, canada and mexico? Why do you think Trump is under attack? Becuase he does not play ball with the globalists. - "Americanism not globalism"
James Ross
Your professor is close but doesn't quite hit the mark. It's merkels plot to gain power and united Europe and open borders. She wants an endless supply of ugly moose lums with low standards who will be more than willing to engage in mass fiki fiki with her. She wants rapefugees to take her to pound town and treat her like a fat sex goddess. She wants the fiki fiki
Austin Harris
sounds cringey.
Ethan Smith
>t. Infowars university
Christopher Carter
The grand chessboard with a twist.
That part with U.S fighting russian head on is bs. If theres a war the us will use its proxy patsies as shock troops nothing more.
Tyler Turner
>top geopolitical analyst >merkel wants open borders so she gets raped by refugees >cant find job at stratfor
good thinking there, chief.
Jack King
>Not a single mention of any racial questions >dropped some redpills It looks like you made 4 mistakes in word "blue".
Christian Adams
That's how they did it in cube: buy the military FIRST Kill civilians LATER. #Chegueveraexecutions....next...
Logan Martinez
If we are to compete with the US do we have to do school shootings and race riots too?
Nathaniel Morales
The American media is proclaiming Russia hacked the US election and President Trump is a Russian puppet, now Cuckrope wants to position it's self as the vanguard against the new Russian menace.
The problem lies with the simple fact that the people do not believe the media's lies. They will fail.
They might succeed in becoming the world police if they wished to. Removing some countries from under America's wing and getting good-goy points.
Gabriel Reyes
he's right. germany will rise again.
Camden Evans
>What say you Sup Forums?....Trump gonna save us before the EU forces us to fight Russia?
This doesn't seem very controversial to me. I mean theoretically what would be the endgame of the EU if not a superstate? To be honest I don't even have that much of an issue with it, were it only continental Europeans (there's no reason for the UK to have been in it), and were it not actively trying to destroy European cultures. I think the US should push to establish a close trading bloc/visa agreement with Anglophone countries.
Tyler James
Already heard that theory from a top tier economist as well, he wasnt so blatantly sincere tho.
>it's not a secret, the goal of europe is to unite and outsmart the US as a superpower and they have really been trying to have a united army >also heard that from an INSPER institute economist and some brazilian diplomats
>the plot thickens
Adam Hernandez
Not a conspiracy. The technocrat and elitist "fathers" of the EU always envisioned a European superstate, pic related. The views of Salter, Monet, Kallergi, Spaak, Schumann are out in the open - they were not like the American founding fathers who hated aristocracy. Video related too: youtube.com/watch?v=MKYSM2dhWE0
Jack Parker
The bible actually talks about world powers in the form of a statue (head of gold, body of iron, feet of clay and iron) which is talking about how each additional world power will be weaker than the last ie babylon the great was strong and the last world power, the anglo-american world power would be weak since clay and iron don't mix. The bible also says right before Armageddon that the kingdom of the north would rise up to overthrow this government, can't remember the scriptures but a quick google will do. The Kingdom of the north could be russia obviously but it could also be other things based on biblical maps, hard to tell since the bible is prophetical
Jayden Harris
They're trying to force unity through a common enemy. It's literally the same thing hitler did before ww2 with the Jews
Jose Ross
It should be obvious by now that Merkel and the EU globalists want complete control over Europe.
Easton Harris
>Germany attempts Conquest Victory twice, gets BTFO >now in the process of Diplomatic Victory
and the Brits, being naturally perfidious, smelled this one early and bailed
Christian Scott
Thus might make sense if they weren't hell bent on turning Europe into an Islamic hellhole, how does that make Europe stronger?
The only explanation is the most simple one, Jews want to destroy the white Goyim of Europe.
Isaac Martin
What roles does refugees living on welfare have to do with a unified EU?
Daniel Gonzalez
TLDR >the eternal aryan strikes again >germoney starts a world war >for the 3rd time >except now they will profit with it >like they claim USA done after WWII >t. Masterplan
Gabriel Stewart
The US is going to self destruct anyway, not sure if it will be the EU which will rise above, though.
Robert Reed
Typical middle-aged male.
The average middle-aged male wants to blame everyone else for his problems, becomes a mad conspiracy theorist.
tfw not like the average. feels good brah
Brayden Kelly
sounds correct. only forgot to mention that sovjet russia isnt number one enemy anymore. and with trump taking office USA was just captured for the nazis ad thus doenst have to be weakened. primary enemies are now the jews and china. russia is a third party which is more or less neutral. also didnt the nazis running their operation from antarctica and that they have UFOs archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/111693720/
Sounds about right, but the America, Russia and Great Britain will just get the ole gang back together to save the world again tho.
Isaiah Lopez
*also he didnt mention the nazis are running their operation....
Alexander Morris
I think they just want more easily controllable pawns to sway towards their politics
also to dilute nationalities
Camden Gomez
Dude sounds badass.
The dichotomy that exists between business and economics professors and the rest of a university's faculty is amazing.
Zachary Richardson
European culture is similar to ours, but not identical. I love my western brothers... But I'm not going to support any sort of European hegemony, your politicians are just too fucking retarded.
Carter Hernandez
>He then went further and told me the EU, much to the credit of conspiracy theorists whom are correct in this context, are trying to form a one country Europe, primarily under German control. He said they're peacefully achieving what Hitler couldn't. By importing millions of shitskin every year?
Please.
Gabriel Walker
What is it with Germans and trying this same shit over and over?
Jayden Diaz
Do you have the map of FN/Republican voters vs Socialist voters?
Adrian Brooks
>He said the EU most in most likelihood wants us to engage Russia to both weaken the US and also to unite the EU as one country. Kek. Implying this could/would ever happen when Russia possesses the 2nd largest nuclear arsenal in the world
The real reason they want a unified Europe is so they can nip nationalism in the bud before the situation deteriorates into civil unrest due to the rise of populist sentiment. ((EU politicians)) are afraid that France, Italy, Greece, and Germany etc might turn nationalist, leading to massive civil unrest and potentially civil war and the genocide of 'undesirable' populations, e.g. muslims. To prevent this from happening they want to create a giant superstate with its own military (much like the USSR).
I predict this is going to fail if Marine Le Pen gets elected, since that puts the European project into serious turmoil. Its unlikely the EU will survive due to the fallout
David Ramirez
Eventually the populace will demand action against the muds even if not I doubt that will stop them from moving forward even if it means demographic replacement, it is a truly evil end game
Wyatt Hall
>He tells me the EU just tried to buy Italy's military.
There's something in this.
The EU is comprised of nations that do not want to fund their own military forces. The EU has sent out various feelers to nation states, with messages along the lines of "keep military spending where it is as we've got plans to take up the slack" and encouraged them down this route.
Nations will be "allowed" to keep their own social programs, welfare spends and so on which will placate the left wing voters (along with the increase in such programs due to the demise of independent military spending) and allow the EU to take over the nasty business of armed defence. Military spending will be centrally funded, planned and organised in this ideal EU structure. Armies will not answer to nation states, but to the EU. EU forces will not be expeditionary in nature, but have purely an internal security role.
Troops from one EU country will be sent to another to put down rebellions and meet security threats. It will not be treat as an invasion because the orders will come from the EU and any orders it make will be under it. It will be incredibly popular with the various EU electorates.
This is why they waited until the UK voted to leave before implementing this further. They know that every single other country in the EU is used to having foreign troops marching down its streets.
Ryan Baker
Canadian politicians are the best
Cooper Davis
Your professor is 100% correct and everything he is saying is obvious and accepted by anyone with an interest in international relations. This is why Russia has been attempting to destablize the EU with their web brigades (who are active here) and their financial support for nationalist EU parties. Read the following:
>Within the United States itself, there is a need for the Russian special services and their allies “to provoke all forms of instability and separatism within the borders of the United States (it is possible to make use of the political forces of Afro-American racists)” (p. 248). “It is especially important,” Dugin adds, “to introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics…” (p. 367).
A balkanized USA/EU means China/Russia grow more powerful.
Isaac Bennett
I wish we italians had our own Trump/Farage/Le Pen too. Salvini is our best bet but he lacks charisma and talent in speechs.
Jonathan Reed
Prove you're a college student real quick. Like a covered up Id badge. You don't know how bad LARPing is around here
Hunter Ramirez
>The real reason they want a unified Europe is so they can nip nationalism in the bud before the situation deteriorates into civil unrest due to the rise of populist sentiment. ((EU politicians)) are afraid that France, Italy, Greece, and Germany etc might turn nationalist, leading to massive civil unrest and potentially civil war and the genocide of 'undesirable' populations, e.g. muslims. To prevent this from happening they want to create a giant superstate with its own military (much like the USSR)
Bang on.
Security studies academics have made this assessment repeatedly over the past 20 years and it has been largely ignored.
Oliver Miller
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James Gutierrez
>(((economics professor)))
Liberal arts and humanities professors exists to push cultural marxist propaganda
Economics professors exists to push neoliberal globalist propaganda
Sebastian Wright
>EU most in most likelihood wants us to engage Russia to both weaken the US
The EUs solution to do this is import millions of Africans and replace the white European population. How they expect to achieve the two in green is baffling.
Jaxon Long
>engage Russia >peacefully achieve They think they aren't going to get involved if that happens? Why they prefer literal negro and arab muslims to west russians? If that's true they will reap what they have sown and force US to get on good terms with Russia instead.
Levi Rodriguez
I dont understand the reasoning here either, unless the plan is to kill of the native population in wars then rule over the subhuman niggers while the jews and rich aristocrats is above the common people.
Logan Ramirez
Maybe if you take "Why Islam is Really Great" and "Women's Politics" and leave it at that, but in IR/Security/Proliferation/Complex Emergencies courses it's mostly realist males.
Brayden Williams
This really shouldn't be surprising when you consider the political background of all the prominent figures in the EU.
They're all communists.
James James
explains the NSA spying on brits and other allies in the snowden leak.
Shit, its starting to all make sense
These EU guys really want this.
USA, EU, RUSSIA, CHINA as the world 4 superpowers. Followed by everyone else.
If that happens diplomacy will be so fucked. 3 is all we need man
Camden Sullivan
Sounds plausible. Without trying to sound like a conspiracy nut, I'm sure there are countries or coalitions that are planning several decades, if not centuries into the future. Really anything is possible.
Jordan Nguyen
This is all so sudden
Adam Smith
>EU >not an american project CIA pls
Benjamin Howard
Thank you kindly.
Ian Lewis
He is right
Luke Foster
>he claims the EU has this plan what army you pajeet faggot
Nicholas Hall
>inb4 finland gets a king and makes a khanante
Where abouts in the bible does it say it? Want to read the book again
Brayden Harris
t. EUIDF
Adam Baker
You forgot that there is one thing called NATO and if the USA goes to war against Russia then all the European countries are in their side.
Nathan Jackson
How did you not know this already? Did he mention the forced demographic shift in order to weaken the native people's voting power to make federalisation more likely?
Benjamin Ward
voting power + federalisation Native people are more likey to want sovereignty than people with no ties to the land. See: Brexit See: Voter base for lliberal parties
Landon Watson
Caste systems is the best. I went to singapore and all i saw were indian slaves
Charles Nguyen
I also hate the fact that the EU is still trying to push TTIP, bunch of globalists.
Asher Brown
>He dropped some fucking crazy thoughts on m Really? The founding fathers of the European Union went on and on about how they wanted to create the United States of Europe, and both the Euro and the Schengen space would work best in one united country.
They've been trying to build a European Army for literally decades now, the only thing they got so far is international weapons projects (that failed miserably) and NATO. A few documents could officialise this, but they weren't ratified.
German leadership was nothing more than a logical conclusion. They are Western Europe's biggest economic powerhouse, the country's dragging up the rest of the Union with sheer economic power. That gives German leaders an insane level of leverage in negociations, so Germans naturally have the lead. But they don't want that. A few years ago, I believe the Economist released an article titled "The reluctant hegemon", because although they are in fact the leaders of Europe, the Germans hesitate to fully accept that.
>So I asked what's their end game? Why do this, and why does it matter if it seems that's what Europe wants.
Europeans don't want that, because a united country means that single states would have to give up their sovereignity, which is never going to happen. They'd rather destroy the Union than start following orders to the letter. As for the endgame, it's all rather obvious, really. They want to achieve an economic might that could rival the USA's.
> He said the EU most in most likelihood wants us to engage Russia to both weaken the US and also to unite the EU as one country. If that's their objective, they're failing miserably. National medias routinely piss on Putin's boots and ridicule Russia.
Brody Robinson
You are thinkingabout this from a nationalist point of view, not a globalist point of view. Culture doesn't matter. What does matter is securing energy. The pipelines in Syria are more important to a globalist than whether or not the peasantry has to deal with shitskins.
What better way to take a country and secure its resources than to remove young able-bodied men from their homeland, dilute nationalists with lots of newcomers that have none before you sieze all of Europe?
Robert Turner
yeee nah, not really
Jayden Green
>, I'm sure there are countries or coalitions that are planning several decades, if not centuries into the future. No, they're not. Modern history has shown that we haven't been able to control events on more than a decade or two at best. After that, it almost automatically backfires.
Jackson Butler
Energy security and the dilution of nationalism. Germany wants that pipeline through Syria. They also want to unify Europe. What better way to do it than to dissolve nationalists with non-nationalist newcomers?
Hunter Garcia
>He then went further and told me the EU, much to the credit of conspiracy theorists whom are correct in this context, are trying to form a one country Europe, How is it a conspiracy theory when the EUrocrats themselves openly admit that they want a United States of Europe?
Blake Lee
You make a good point with voters. But won't EU be weakened if all these new people just live on welfare and commit crimes? Surely that can't be more beneficial then if they just weren't here?
Parker Bailey
>implying the EU is that capable
Joseph Parker
If you keep importing middle easterners and Africans, yes.
Luke Sanders
Exactly
Jack Cruz
>This continued unrest within our union calls for a EU internal security forces. Such a force should also be equipped to repel outside invaders. Something along those lines.
Caleb Rogers
Agaon, you're thinking nationalistically, not from a globalist perspective. Culture and history mean fuckall.. The goal is to remove nationalism, not expand it. Hence importing people with radically different backgrounds without European heritage
Lincoln Allen
I think its fairly obvious something is not right with the EU, all these officials making decisions none of them MEP's. Glad i voted out but might be back in soon with this fucking SNP.
Austin Walker
>I don't see how importing ISIS is """peacefully achieving""" anything, but the rest makes sense.
You are not the brightest are you? The strongest force to unite people is a common threat. What better threat than the people you have just imported millions of into your homes?
Shit will go down in the future here, death toll in the millions. There we'll get the crisis to unite europe. Of course the elite tries to do it in a peaceful way but when they see this won't work, they'll just "push the button" and suddenly shit will start to happen over the course of a few weeks to months, military send inside the country etc etc...
Jonathan Gray
>If that's their objective, they're failing miserably. National medias routinely piss on Putin's boots and ridicule Russia. Atlantic Bridge, it's not european media
Nathaniel Green
The American founders did not hate aristocracy.
Also, there is nothing wrong with aristocracy, nor is there anything inherently wrong with an EU superstate. The problem is that it would be left-wing technocracy rather than say a federated, traditionalist monarchy.
Andrew Fisher
See: America Their culture is ruined (burrito is their national food), they have a second language now (spanish) and the melting pot meem is in full force now. The country however has not collapsed yet though as western civilisation is harder to kill than one would think.
Europe will exist in the future but it'll just be a country of perverse western civilisation. Literally just a machine in which people work, watch tv, eat shite, drink , do drugs and nowt else.
The globalist dream!
Robert Young
Checked
Camden Jenkins
Not you This might have been more true in the past when you didn't expect everything you know to be outdated in 10 years. If for some reason Belgium invented a forcefield to block nuclear bombs and some new weapons tech they could be the top power broker in the world in a decade. China in the 1500s had a reasonable idea of what the country would look like in 200 years
Brayden Diaz
>He said the plays economically are all in line with this outcome...a weaker US and a united one country EU with a united army to compete with the US and gain global dominance.
Disregarding the bit with russia, why the fuck would they not plan to do just that? A united europe, would be only wrangling with the USA / Anglosphere for influence. Needn't even be militaristic - just keep it cold and business-like. They are also planning and talking about that "growing closer together" stuff, as long as I can remember. Nothing new, all in all.
Isaac Bennett
I wish this was actually true. It would make us so much smarter and cooler. But the truth is we're just complete cucks. We're the butt of Europe. Refuse to bail out Greece: We're egoistic assholes. Bail out Greece: We're suddenly the reason for Greece's debt. Refuse to take refugees: We're egoistic Nazis. Take in the Refugees: We're the reason why Europe is crumbling. All we wanna do is build nice cars and sell them to the world but all countries around us just keep fucking things up.
And we can't stand for ourselves because we are forever the former Nazis that need to beg on their knees for forgiveness. We are the ultimate cucks, we could never rule the world. Just do us a favor and nuke us off the earth for good.
Jose Adams
So if that were to happen the only way to secure a good future would be to join them then? At least you wouldn't have to worry about sending your children to multicultural schools if you blend in with the elite globalists.
Jack Edwards
***** IMPORTANT INFORMATION ******
plot twist: Russia is actually controlled by Anglos (US/Brits/NZ/CAD/AUS)
It's a 3 man race for global control: Anglos vs EU vs China
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Jayden King
What's the point to create a big European Union with shitskin inside?
Did you look at Africa or Arab countries? Fake unions and constant civil wars. No mention to Islam.
Russia could annex it in two months and remove all kebabs. Even a US army full of latinos could destroy them.
Jesus christ, fuck these stupid conspiracies.
Jaxon Hernandez
>He said the plays economically are all in line with this outcome...a weaker US and a united one country EU with a united army to compete with the US and gain global dominance.
He is wrong about this though. The EU and the establishment of the USA, e.g. Clinton, has the goal of a one world government. They would unite the USA and the EU as an intermediate goal for that.
Levi Rodriguez
>It's a 3 man race for global control: Anglos vs EU vs China >China
Nigga what? China is already crumbling, as is their future influence. The "second wave" of automatisation, which is about to be ushered in, will wreak havok on ther industry over the long-term. Their military, safe for their numbers, is a fucking joke.
Adam Cook
Considering I got this from an econ professor, I'msure it has much to do with Europe energy independence, as Russia and Syria are major roadblocks to this issue.
We talk a lot about energy in this class, so I'm sure it's all related to gas somehow.
Carter Reed
So where does Soros fit into this scheme? Seems his efforts to wipe away local Euro identities backfired for the most part and it's just the crooked politicians barely holding it together.
Ethan Nguyen
B-But that shit makes sense... I mean, it isn't the reason after all? Unite all those countries in a politic and burocratic Institutional State and make a deterrence policy together against U.S. and Russia?
Dominic Watson
>Atlantic Bridge, it's not european media What? Who looks at that?
Elijah Hernandez
Brussles wants to remove nationalism to set up the super state So a bit of brown is needed in the mix. Not too much. Meanwhile we're more than happy to bomb the shit out of Syria and provide you with more than enough sandniggers